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- In the 1970s, frustration over heroin related, urban crime led to the War on Drugs. Today, heroin is back. But the users, and the response, are very different.
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I'm 24 months and 6 days clean today
👍
Amazing dude keep it going forever
Hope it’s 36+ now man congrats
hows it going now
I’m so proud of you!!! I know how hard it is I hope you’re doing good
"Those people not our people" that sums up the entire everything. You reap what you sow.
And you have been tricked by bad propagander. Its always about jew vs gentile. You people are asleep you never get it. The goverment is probably selling it to the world.
SEW!
@@davideckhart1123 the scary part is everyone is living in this reality built by media today and your right.. and yes the government is selling opiods to the world. My friend who was in marines was shipped to Afghanistan to only gaurd all the heroin opiods producing plants which produces 90%of the worlds opietes. Becuase the taliban was trying to destroy the fields. And who were we guarding the feilds for Israel the jews who own america no joke most of our congress hold dual citizenship with Isreal
Ever been to Israel? It's like a 3rd world country. They ain't running nothing but their mouths...
Those people = inner city black people czcams.com/video/QlPNRaXj2OQ/video.html
it's sad because the damage done to "inner city" communities will just be water under the bridge. like so many other atrocities in this countries past
@@jesus4602 Good to hear ... hopefully there will be less incest in the South now ....
No one forced them to sell drugs and shoot each other lmao
@@Blank-km4qr shut up racist
@@erowo8767 I think your the racist for assuming I’m talking about certain races. Tsk tsk tsk
Drugs declared winner in war on Drugs!
Private prisoner owners are the winners.
America should declare a war on education, literacy would shoot through the roof!
So true
I’m a decorated veteran in the drug war, Bong Division.
Prison industrial complex made out a fat cat too. Easy access to slave labor added millions to corporate profits.
I was on opiates for 24 yrs (I broke my collarbone and my back in 1989 I was 11), then moved on to heroin for 6 yrs...
I'm 549 days clean today, and counting 🤞...
I love how the "Washington County Health Dept" employee could care less until she found out it effected suburban America...
maybe we should look into the causes of drug use instead of punishing 'the symptoms' of the messed up system
They all need to be decriminalized. Every one of them (not dealing though). Decriminalize it so that you don't get a record just for being addicted to a drug. Having a record makes it much harder to work, or go to school, which just perpetuates the addiction cycle.
Decriminalize it so that when people are caught, they can be offered medical help like rehab.
In the end this won't only help millions of lives, it will also save Americans lots of money that goes towards imprisonment and hospitalization/medical costs for overdoses.
LOL
The fact that one guy is laughing is why we still have problems
Lol
Exactly
The Baltimore mayor was a genius and decades ahead of his time. All of this should be bunk anyway, as prohibition on alcohol caused the exact same problems as prohibition on drugs. Besides the fact that I guarantee you the founders if they thought there would ever be laws preventing someone from putting what they wanted in their own body, would’ve made that the first amendment to prohibit such a law preventing people from injecting or swallowing whatever they wanted as long as they were not hurting someone else. I have a friend that I worked for, a very prominent New York state assemblyman, back in the 1990s, who told me that off the record the majority of the New York State assembly was for removing the prohibition on drugs in New York State. And that was 25 years ago.
They tried his approach in San Francisco and it failed miserably. Perhaps that was the objective.
Bob Sands by what metric was it a failure? Overdose deaths? Violent crime/drug use rate? I’m asking out of curiosity not condescension btw
Medication won’t stop drug abuse.
Incarceration won’t stop drug abuse.
The system that is making people’s lives miserable needs to change, or this problem will persist forever.
Kinda sad how this public health approach is being taken by the government when there is a rise in addiction among white middle class families now but not when it was prevalent among minorities in the 60's , 70's, or 80's.
Magpie that's such crap
kentucky 82 whites arent getting prosecuted for being heroin users there being sent to detox centers its pity for them that's the reality
@@kentucky8256 Keep your blindfold on, Stay away from social media. Your elementary school education is showing.
That's b/c AA community was lacking real leadership. Folks were more concerned about sharing the same restaurant with white folks than they were about gaining wealth. Folks like Jesse Jackson were elevated while Sam Fuller was castigated.
Even more sad when the so called minorities knew this would happens in the first place.
Opioid withdrawal is so unbearable that you’ll do almost anything to avoid it (I’ve been on methadone continuously since 2006). They focus a lot on the physical effects, but the acute panic & depression that sets in is unimaginable. All you can think about is getting money to resolve this situation. When you finally do get heroin, the sickness is removed instantly.
Man I've still gotta wait several wks for methadone program so sick of waking up sick and robbing to get h
How is it surprising that harsh punishments aren't working. Using heroine is like playing Russian Roulette.
If someone is desperate enough to play Russian Roulette; do you really think labeling it illegal is going to deter them?
"they don't look like a heroin addict" So you mean they're not brown, right? LOL
Pew ....no actually. nobody thinks that way. it's not the 1950's buddy
What she meant was that anyone could be effected by drug use no matter skin color.
Dan Field have you been to a republican state? Have you listened to our current president? Have you seen the white supremacist rallies?
@@danfield6030 Oh yeah they do, maybe not in the cities, and urban suburbs. In the rural counties and wealthy white suburbs on the other hand, you will find that thinking very often.
Dan Field
Really? Have you heard our president?
powerful piece of historical journalism.
we need to re-think our war on drugs. the emphasis on punishment has failed, it's time to give an alternative approach a shot. let's treat drug addiction as a health problem, i believe we can save lives and money by doing so.
likeminas They don't care, it's all about profit.
A healthy populace isn’t in need of expensive treatment, and the bottom line is all that matters.
Look no further than Portugal. They handle the war on drugs pretty well. If all of the US can do this however a lot of those lawmakers our mix into this and make profit from this and they don’t want to stop by either. The war on drugs was loss in the early 90s.
I love retro report. F**ing great journalism !!👍👍👍
Awesome piece of journalism! Really gives context, which is missing so much in todays news. Thanks!
SWiSHRoyal it didn’t mention the simple solution
These retro reports are really good, and well made considering they're short docs and subjects are important American history touchstones.
My aunt with cancer, gout, and bulging disc couldn't get her medication anymore
I am lucky enough to have received Vivatrol treatment from the VA hospital and it changed my life forever! I can not speak highly enough of it.
Cascadian Rangers what does it do? Is it like Naloxone? Or the same?
@@lilkurd05 You can inject grams and feel nothing, it's blocking every opiat available.
The terrible side effect, peoples often inject extremely high doses, hoping to get a little piece of mind.
The consequences are overdoses ...
Opiat addition is not only a physical problem, your mind and brain are involved too.
Depression is well known and often the reason of using at all.
That's why so many relapse.
Many are dreaming about using at night, even after decades clean.
Unfortunatly the dreams are always ending before shooting up.
You wake up, ready to score again ...
this goverment is so dirty
" -this- government is so dirty." I can name Governments on nearly every continent that are magnitudes worse than America.
@@acetate909 I like your whataboutism.
@@admydragon
Whataboutism is when you shift the focus of the argument to something else. I'm just taking a larger view of the issue. Our government is bloated and corrupt and unfortunately that's the template for humanities institutions.
@Firm Fiasco
I never said or even implied corruption was "ok". Acknowledgment is not an endorsement. "Idiots *like love* to justify everything", the irony in that sentence is beautiful.
Hahaha
Fascinating report, thanks. :)
It's always going to come down to race, unfortunately. Reform, rehabilitation, education, none of these are ever considered until the addiction and crime moves out of the poverty-stricken minorities populated areas and spreads into the upper-middle-class white communities.
5 months sober!💯❤️
RETRO REPORT, I LOVE YOU .
That man was ahead of his time. Countries that have decriminalized drug use have shown enormous drops in addiction. America is going to have to do something more than it is now to deal with this and stop the sky-rocketing number of OD deaths. Unfortunately we have a president who would probably consider the war on drugs the answer though it proved nothing but catastrophic.
people should care more about the inner cities even if they live in the burbs you still have to find work and the inner city is where most jobs are
People should care about people. Period!
Kinda odd...im from Hagerstown too and I'm an recovering addict. Hagerstown is in the grips of this big time (I moved away). We are close to Baltimore (hour drive away) and that's how my circle got heroin. We all started on prescription drugs and when that got too expensive one of us discovered Baltimore was an open air drug market basically. Many years and many deaths later I survived. I can't say that for a lot of my friends.
We need compassion as a solution.
Needle exchange has worked very well in Canada along with safe-injection sites.
If the war on drugs didn’t impact you? I’d love to know where you came from because that sounds like paradise to me.
12:29 - a bit self-centered: "My husband Frank and I buried a child to drug addiction, so we must invest more in the treatment of drugs." Her stated reason is that her own kid died, and that's what should determine policy. Or maybe I'm giving her too much credit, and she was really unashamedly using her dead kid to get sympathy votes. I suspect the latter. She was so eager to play her sympathy card that she didn't think of a way to end the sentence rationally. Not a good way to win a debate.
Literally she's saying she and her husband must invest more to apply some kind of treatment to the drugs, not the users. (Pronouns refer to antecedent nouns.) Usually good language skills are necessary in debates and in politics in general.
Who am I to criticize though? I come from the state that inflicted Michelle Bachmann on the rest of the country. (Sorry about that.)
Aye 😐
Minnesota's wrong turn Michelle (holier than I, religious zealot, cuckoo bird) Bachmann.... Ikr! 😟
It is a horrible thing to be doing drugs when pregnant for sure, but when drugs like that take hold, it is bigger than wanting to get high, the drugs do make you crave more, but it's more involved than that, your brain chemistry changes, synapses strengthen in the reward centers, n atrophy in more "logical" parts of the brain, and then there is the withdrawl, not sleeping, or eating, vomiting, diarrhea, sweats and chills, almost nonstop yawning, sneezing, tearing/watery eyes, muscle pain n spasms, intense anxiety, depression. It is extremely devastating, I don't think there is 1 heroin user out there that thinks there life is good. More likely the majority of addicts would seize the opportunity to get help esp with some of the newer medications they have as well as being able to receive therapy, it really needs to be more readily available. You can't make them stop by punishing them n very few are strong enough to get clean on their own.
As a current heroin addict, I couldn't have said it better myself.
Well said!!! 💯😑
@@traviscesaro9361 get well soon. 😑 I really mean that.
We have been trying the criminal approach for 40 years, time to take a new approach
Have you ever been heroin its hard please dont hate addicts we are good people we just want to feel good. We are depressed n we just want to feel better please understand
A problem that will never go away.
Drug addiction should be treated as a health problem rather than a criminal problem.
1970s almost 200 people dying of heroin this year...
Now 2019 millions dying of prescription pain killers
Justin Reyes not prescriptions
"Just say NO what's so hard about that!" -Dave Chappelle
More difficult when you get addicted to opiates from a medical prescription and then the prescription runs out. That's where most heroin and fentanyl addicts come from these days.
@@ladyreverie7027 yup. That exactly happened to me.
200 heroin overdoses nationwide in part of a year..
Nowadays, many single cities often see 200 overdose deaths in a single year.
I'm a Norwegian that have never had problems with Heroin since I got access to Methadone I don't know how many years ago, I think more then a half decade. I've even tried shooting Heroin since then, but it don't work when I'm on Methadone, so I haven't bothered using it since I've started getting knowledge of that. Edit: I got, as a former Heroin addict, access to Naloxone/Narcane, and I've prevented a couple of overdoses = That's a couple of lives that still live.
"Those were tough times?" The drug problem is 1,000 times worse.
The american way: "WAR" !! On every kind of problems. "WAR" !!
Drugs/booze take the pain and stress away... I don't blame them for using it....... it is a way to escape from their debt and commitments and other issues in life........
Not all drugs are addicting and toxic like heroine, cocaine and alcohol. MDMA is pretty safe to use as long as you're sure that you really got MDMA and not something else.
Just like anything else it always boils down to greed and money, and the “War on Drugs” is no exception, instead of getting to the root of the issue so it can be resolved there are people in positions of power who have no intention to fix the problem because it’s not in their financial interest. So instead of truly understanding what the problem is and doing something to help fix it they would rather allow it to continue so they can get rich in the process, this is a tactic that is unfortunately widespread among many serious issues. Until we weed out the individuals responsible of this kind of greedy mentality we’ll never be able to resolve many issues we face in society, locking people up obviously isn’t working so we need a fresh approach, hopefully as the old guard fades into the background and newer generations rise up to take the lead we’ll have a better chance to change the way we deal with these issues.
Also **** Hagerstown
Wow, Washington DC did something right!
Ah....the good old days.. back when heroin was the ONLY serious drug people used...Now we have heroin, meth and crack....terrible, terrible, terrible...So painful to watch it and experience it intimately. Feels so hopeless when in it, so wonderful to overcome it. I'm one of the lucky ones.
When there was no heroin in the city in the 70s it was called a panic but since the 80s the city never ran out of heroin
Also privatization of prisons may lead to lobbying against the solution to weaker drug and sexual molester solutions.
This is just devilish
It's still unclear to me what the "war" part of the war on drugs is supposed to mean. Full metal jacket?
Data and evidence doesn’t require an emotional response to an issue; emotional reactions only causes more problems.
Nixon did a lot of things wrong, but his approach towards treating drugs as a heath issue & crime issue were quite admirable. I'm somewhat ignorant on how that all changed, if anyone can give me a quick summary on how it went from being a criminal and health issue to being viewed as simply a criminal issue it would be greatly appreciated.
I love heroin history. It is so cool. I just love learning about the history ofthepastn50 years.
Part of the problem is that so much time, energy and money is wasted on the prohibition of marijuana.
Im on methadone and it works
>but the response is very different
gee i wonder why
Well well
My grandfather’s doctor was caught distributing opioids in the late 60s in Dayton, Ohio.
Our very own government has soldiers guarding poppy fields.....i know for a fact....
Yes sir, in Afghanistan
They need to stop calling people middle class just because they aren't a minority or live in wealthy areas. A drug addict inmate is decently poor.
What's "decently" poor mean?
How about good jobs & less stress, so people don't get depressed or use dope?
The problem is one of humanity. In the moment, an emotional desire for happiness can override a logical desire to obey the law, or avoid addiction, especially if social connections welcome you emotionally into that decision to do drugs. It's a very difficult problem. Education at a young age can probably help, but at what cost and how effective? Do we really want to teach young children about drugs, about the worst things in our society? Should we not instead try to elevate children's ideas of what life should be like, and show them the path to success which if they fail on they will need emotional support that can be found in taking drugs. Perhaps we need to analyse the paths we can take through life and through science determine the best way to help ourselves make the most of it, through stick or carrot, through understanding or proscription. Above all, surely dealers and addicts need to be treated very differently? Perhaps we also need to educate the dealers though? There are better businesses to be had than drug dealing.
Kurt Schmoke was ahead of his time...
It's like the plot of traffic
that dude at 7:45 know what he is talking about.
I'm just amazed at the statistics, and it's very difficult to actually picture the people in comparison to like a certain towns population. There is a European country I forget which that actually legalized narcotics, and it's statistics shows a huge decline in crime, arrests, overdoses, and deaths. We should do the same.
Portugal. It decriminalized most drugs. Not made them legal. However it was a huge change.
Thats a relaps overdose cure is it works! My wife would be alive if she had vivitrol! Her relapse was a perfect storm when she had lost her tolerance and a "normal" dose was now a lethal dose.
Solution to all the problems is to have just one particular section of the society be affected.
8 years after this video doc !!! Open your eyes people , nothing matters more than substain the sistem , Nobody will solve the problems if the people can and pay for it !
If bad consequences stopped drug addiction, there wouldnt be anymore drug addicts.
Vinny Papa, Johnny Dip, Tony Loria, Virgil Alessi, Mr. Huff from Harlem
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What's impossible for man is possible with GOD,GOD can deliver from the power of drugs
I dont know what was worse... the rockefeller drug laws or the methadone programs.... all i do know is that both are worse than heroin addiction.
The Rockefeller laws by quite a large margin
Vivatrol or Naltrexone shot shouldn't be given to every patient addicted to opiates who come in. When I was getting clean I went to the VA for treatment and I tried the pill. Keep in mind I had been detoxed for over a month at this point but once the medication starting working I immediately began having severe cravings for heroin when hours prior I had nothing of the sort. If I had taken the shot the effects could have lasted nearly a month vs the 24 hours the pill did. It's a rare reaction but possible and naltrexone does absolutely nothing to ease withdrawal symptoms. Not saying other MATs are perfect but I just don't see Naltrexone being a great solution.
the war on drugs must still benefit somebody if they continue to still waste so much money on a clearly misguided cause. Who benefits?
The war on drugs will never be won.
Humans like to do anything which makes you feel good.
So there is always going to be a demand for drugs - and people who are willing to supply.
I have taken drugs since I was 15 and I am now 46.
I take drugs because I like to feel better and get through the day. All work and no play makes Jack a very dull boy.
Drugs are fun if you are not ignorant.
This ⬆️ 🏆🏆🏆
your choice
Methadone is called liquid hand cuffs - good luck getting off that stuff.
I got off of it. Tapered off after I had my son.
Now I know the difference between South Africa and USA in the 70's and 80's. South African government was honest.
Trust me, even a low class dope addict can find a way to get at least $300 a day.
An oz is extremely low to a user
To a normal person it looks and sounds like an extreme amount.
I just watched the film American Gangster. I wish people who were in Harlem and New York at that time would report and write and interview about what they really saw. I thought the movie had some great scenes showing people ODing, babies crying and left un attended, apartments so decrepit that even rats would not live there
It's about money an government an cartels in government. enough already.
Schmoke was trying when the system was hiding.
I’m joining the War on Drugs. On the side of drugs
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Jfc the former senator who helped create the war on drugs is so detached......how can you be surprised at who you’re holding captive when you let your dogs loose on them????
For asociety that deals with all the effects of alcohol consumption, heroin, cocaine, and meth should be child's play. Except they're outlawed.
Man, I bet a gram of good dope was like 30 bucks back then.
About $50 ($250 today) and about 5% purity. So actually no, we have it better. Purer and cheaper. Same with weed. Cheaper (with inflation) and about 12%-25% THC back then 2%-5% THC
@@mariegulley7909 Also lots of "Heroin" today are mixed with synthetic opiods.
the cia is running heroin and coke from mex
SVS i thought it was your mother
In March 1970, two corrupt and criminal cops (who should've been in jail for ten years) in Spanish Harlem tried to plant heroin on two Young Lords (Puerto Rican Black Panthers) as they tried to help two other addicts, who were dying on the sidewalk.
The Lords whistled loudly and Puerto Rican and Black people came pouring out of the buildings and jumped the cops. Imagine this in your brains.
The cops called for back up. It wasn't enough. They called the fire department. They were still WAY out numbered. It wasn't a riot It was a full blown street battle.
Check it out on The Young Lords website. It's also in a much more descriptive article that anyone can research from the NY Times March 1970 entitled "COPS ASSAULTED UPTOWN ". I was 3 months old in my 15 year old heroin addicted moms womb a few blocks away.
Kurt was laughing 😆 hahaha he knows it's karma!
This is what *Karma* looks like.
The real crime are those pants in the thumbnail
More money, more laws, another effort, more government enforcers and bureaucrats will fix it. Government is good.
heroin is bad enough, but the the real killer is prohibition. at least 50% of crime is drug related, costing society half of what law enforcement, courts, prisons and people out of the work force cost tax payers. addicts could work, if not for the fact that they need way more than any job pays, only due to prohibition. only if war on drugs is going on, huge profits are guaranteed. we all remember what alcohol prohibition in rhe 30s lead to.
Schmoke was before his time
Vivitrol has an even worse relapse rate than bupe or methadone. Vivitrol is a complete joke
Life in prison for 1 ounce of heroin ????
Yeah, prohibition kills. functionally *all* of the problems of heroin addiction could be *cured* and cured *tomorrow* if addicts could get clean, safe dope at the pharmacy or distribution centres at a price they can afford, allowing them to stabilize their lives and get treatment that suits them. There's no amount of legal consequence that will convince someone in that much pain, suffering, and desperation not to try and treat that suffering. It might make old white ladies feel good to know they're hurting young black drug addicts, but it doesn't *fix* the actual *problem.* Interestingly, making it a white problem seems to have opened people up to the reality that treatment cannot be punitive. You can no more cure a drug addict by making them feel bad about them selves than you can cure cancer with the same bitter poison.
mess with the bull you get the horns
2:45 lol dude speaking like an ounce is a little bit lol