Ah the clone saga. What started as good and interesting idea turn into a huge cluster fuck. Which is a shame because I really like Ben Reilly.
LUISPRIME It's mainly a good premise with terrible writing.
All of which could've been saved with a good editor.
LUISPRIME yeah i loved Ben, i was happy to see him in the spiderverse comics until Dan Slott destroyed his legacy with this new clone conspiracy story.
Oh lord it was this, the launch of the new Venom comics after Planet of the Symbiotes and how X-Men convoluted got which turned me off from these comics. I only read Fantastic Four stuff from Marvel before I stopped collecting in total back in '97.
Played in Scarlett spider outfit through the whole new PS4 game. Best outfit ever
I like the black and green stealth costume from Big Time that was my favorite costume
Oh thank God I'm not the only one.
I've loved this outfit from the moment I saw it as a little kid 😂
Scarlet spider my favorite. Used that suit on spiderman and I got the logo tattooed
It is! My ONLY wish is that they would've given us the option to add the Reactive Eye Lens to it so you can see his reactions
I've always loved the Scarlet Spider costume design, one of my favorites.
Scarlet Spider costume was cool but The Sensational Spider Man costume was a little cooler
Ben Reilly was one of the coolest thing ever on spider man universe. sadly the clone saga was a great great mess.
Renan Beltrão
If this story was adapter they should mix with amazing and ultimate story without any confusion.
The clone saga is one of my favorite Spiderman reads but you're absolutely right when you say it is a mess. It had so much potential a bunch of Peter Parker's running around acting as if they were his brothers the idea itself is amazing and it was executed pretty well in The Amazing Spider-Man comics not so much in the extended comics
AGREED! THANK YOU! finally! i both loved and loathed the clone saga. granted, i was born in '81 so i was a kid. When certain writers tackled the character, Ben Reilly was the absolute greatest....Kaine TOO! there was this dichotomy between the two. both clones of Peter, but Kaine was a failure and Ben wound up becoming Jackal's golden boy favorite son. The best was the series showing Ben's years on the road and how he didn't know who was the real Peter, (Kaine thought it was Ben) but then he did what he felt the right thing was, tried to make some kind of life for himself and; Kaine was all like "yeah......NOPE! "wanted for a fake murder that i framed you for, you don't GET a life". It was Kaine's pettiness that was the motivator. Like seriously, you have all of Peter's memories
Ben Reilly and Kaine Parker are the best two clones in comics history because look at their costumes
Scarlet Spider easily had the best spider-costume
Not even close, the classic and the black suit.
It's cool but come one man
Even the future foundation suit looks cooler
Matt L Well, for it's time really. because that costume screams the 90s, but i still like it
Finn Marr-Heenan
Black suit, FF suit, and Iron-Spider suit (first civil war) were all my favourites, but as a kid, i loved that Scarlet Spider costume!!
+johnnyscifi I hate the iron spider suit, it's so trashy and gaudy.
It's the only color I don't pick when I play spiderman in Mvc.
Let's be real tho personal preference aside,spiderman definetly has the best track record when it comes to costume redesigns
+Finn Marr-Heenan also I'm not saying the scarlet spider is bad, I'm just saying it's not the best.
I still love my terrible saved by the bell era spiderman
Clone saga was a goddamn mess but Ben Reilly and Kaine are, without a doubt, the best things to come out of it.
Who else thinks the 70's Jackal/ Miles Warren looks like he could be a bad guy in Scooby Doo Where Are You? Lol.
literally thought that when he took off his mask in the one panel!! haha
5:05
"I would have gotten away with it had it not been for those darn kids"
🤣
Both of the Ben Reilly costumes have always been some of my favorite Spider-Man costumes, especially the original Scarlet Spider costume. So 90's, but so awesome.
I loved Ben Reilly, he was MY Spider-Man, as I first started reading comics in the early 90's. Literally, the first complete Spider-Man story I ever read was the Power and Responsibility story arc. I'm absolutely currently buying and reading the new "Ben Reilly: The Scarlet Spider" comic; it's written by Peter David, so you know it's good.
I miss Ben Riely aka scarlet spider so much
yeah not really i don't call that impostor ben riely i call that impostor Evil Ben riely
Tevya Smolka I dont see him as evil but traumatized he was tortured by the jackal for months being killed and brought back and that kinda messed with him. but maybe in the new comic he will return to his normal self.
hm i read the 3 issues of that series and it looks like this ben riely is still nuts and and insane but i am hoping Peter david could undo the damaged caused to ben thanks to slott butchering of this character but i don't think that's going to happen i get a feeling that this new scarlet spider series is not going to last its going to get cancelled really really soon but who knows hopefully i am wrong and this series does get better near the very end but again who knows i guess we will have to wait and see what happens.
Hey, we got kain outta it. So basically Red Hood Spiderman
Basically a more outcast Spider Man he went to Texas and took the Scarlet Spider mantle after Ben Reilly died
When they made Mac Gargan Venom back in the days I was literally screaming "NO, bring back Kaine and give the symbiote to him so he can survive and keep being this shattered reflection of Spider-Man," it would've made so much more sense to me.
I rather have Eddie Brock with the symbiote a little more than Matt Gargan having the costume I mean he looked kinda cool with the costume especially in the comic debut of Anti Venom
I love Ben Reilly!!!! He need his own Tv show!
He ain't never going to get a movie.
Miles Morales, Miguel O'hara & Silk are all more likely to get movies.
That’s why I think a 8 episode tv show would be amazing, film In Houston and mention peter every once and awhile
SimplyFilmFan Would like a clone saga mcu film and then for Reilly to get his own netflix show
The Sensational Spider Man basically following all of his adventures as that times current Spider but they don’t do that until Season 2 but for the Season 1 they do Scarlet Spider
I loved the Ben Riley vs Venom issue and also how they has him fighting sentinels in the onslaught story line along side Cable
12:50 "she was not of any importance" I beg to differ, she's *_thicc_*
I mean she’s eye candy that’s the only thing you can say about her that’s why she is of importance to pervert comic readers
that's the thing.... it's a shame, because both Ben Reilly and Kaine parker are some of the most interesting marvel characters of the hole spiderman mythos, kaine wasn't until 2011, when he came back and got a solo tittle in 2012, (which is my absolute favorite run of all the comics i read besides the mark waid daredevil)... Ben as the scarlet spider was so fresh, a symbol of what spidey was that parker was not anymore, and kaine as the scarlet spider was so fresh also because he was a symbol of what parker would have become if he was more brutal yet kept his core and morals plus with a deep self-hatred and desire for redemption.
Agree 100% shame that do one saga wasn't good because ben and kayne are really cool
Holy crap I think you just described the essence of the Clones Saga better than I ever could I completely agree that Ben Reilly represents what Peter would have been and Kane represents what he would have been if he made the wrong choices
I mean clones in comics have sometimes been more interesting than the original character I mean Ben Reilly and Kaine Parker were two interesting characters also with Wolverine when X 23 was created and replaced Wolverine as the new Wolverine
Man I loved the artwork of the 90s. If feels kind of weird watching this one because I have a lot of the comics from that clone saga, and have some of the issues you're featuring.
same here. I plan on finishing my run of this series. My friend growing up has almost the whole run. so jealous. not an easy series to collect.
I mean the artwork of the 90’s was pretty cool if they bring back that style of artwork they should bring it back for grittier more dark stories like Spawn,Batman,Venom,Marvel Zombies,and The Batman Who Laughs type of stories
Here's the deal, basically, the fact remains that, this is the best CZcams channel ever written, and so on and so forth.
All of the clone saga could have worked if the marketing team didn't screw up the original plan for this story
the original plan was going to have peter parker and mary jane have there daughter alive and kicking and ben riely to be the new spider-man and in my opinion i actually would have actually loved this plan because it has peter and MJ have there happy ending and ben gets to live.
@@TevyaSmolka That would have been perfect..............one hero retiring to live happily ever after with an exact carbon copy adding a bad-ass costume and a more savage attitude..................I would have been satisfied with that.
@@TevyaSmolka I guess we are in the minority and I resonate with Scarlet Spider's life more than Spider Man lol
I hate that they dug ben reilly up from his grave to assassinate his character by making him the jackal. Such a stupid twist that literally everybody saw coming. I remember being legit surprised when it was revealed kaine was the first clone
Aunt May was "almost done with all her living". Rob, sir, you certainly have a way with words....
i have been waiting for you to do this Rob and thanks for it
Excellent work Rob. Thank you very much for putting this out.
What if Yoda wielded Thor's hammer?
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what if Frieza had a Yellow Lantern ring and then eventually one on each finger on both hands in a Dragon Ball/DC Comics??
Here because of the ps4 game
Spider Man (PS4) was way better than both of The Amazing Spider Man games
@@tehjmoney2604 I agree. Amazing Spiderman 2 was a really good game but Spiderman PS4 completely blew it out of the park. Cant wait for the sequel.
Thanks for all the videos! I am a comic fan, and now a fan of this CZcams channel.
Thanks for all the work you put into these.
im not a big spiderman fan (i know the basics) and i was able to understand and keep up with the video, looking forward to the next one, rob!
That Scarlet Spider costume always was my favorite
I always liked the hoodie because it was so 1990’s but his Sensational Spider Man costume was always the coolest
Aunt may was
"Almost done with all her living"
*Savage*
Good work on the video
The Scarlet Spider was my favorite spiderman loved the hoodie!
I preferred the Sensational Spider Man costume it was always cool to me because of how he changes the costume giving it a bigger spider and changing the light blue to navy blue
14:25 "Marvel couldn't just drop Ben Reilly in... suddenly replace Peter Parker". Damn right, that's how you preserve legacy and continuity by passing the baton between heroes smoothly.
Funny how these days we have just random wannabe heroes parachuted in as all knowing flawless replacements for the legacy heroes. Wish Marvel would just remember its past lessons.
Scarlet Spider has always been my fav Spiderman
Dude loved it!
Congrats on 1mil subs!!
I`ve been reading comics on & off for a very long time,And
I remember reading the original clone saga back in the 70`s.
Just wanted to say... You are one of the most knowledgeable comic fan`s
I`ve ever come across. Love you video`s, Very informative. You mentioned
you made a list of specific comics to talk about for 'The Clone saga" I was
wondering if you could share which comics those were?
Thanks, And keep the video`s coming
very late reply but you can look up "Clone Saga reading order" and lists will pop up, there's literally a comicbookreadingorders.com and its very helpful.
Love the suit. The web shooter that shoots different web types is neat and the hoodie looks awesome. Wish he would put the hoodie on more.
i liked this video and the kinda half tell half explaine way youve done it. Can't wait for the next. ive always wanted to know about the clone saga, but its sooo, long and confusing. lmao
Just stopping by to say I love still love this 4 years later. Clone saga was my into to Spider-Man back in the 90’s and will always be my favorite.
Thank you!!!! I loved this saga. Thanks for this... repeatedly
Thanks for not having no intro and getting straight to it.
I'm in favor of you covering this storyline. I actually got excited when I saw the title of the video. Looking forward to the other 2 vids you intend to make. :-)
Please continue on. I like it.
good vid rob!! shalom.
Amazing video, Rob! Love Ben Reilly!
Thank you so much
Dark days the forge, give me a date and time now rob. I needed that vid yesterday
Ben Reilly and Miguel are my favorite spider-men besides Peter. Both their suits are awesome too.
It's about time you did this story.
@ComicsExplained -- THANK YOU for making this video!! You're friggin' awesome man! Been totally waiting for this for some time now. YES!! #robcorps
Love this, I really enjoy comicstorian but based on his focus on new stuff and DC haven't seen a lot of stuff like this
The scarlet spider costume was the most 90s thing ever, but still, ben reilly and his supporting characters was interesting.
I just Dawned on me, but the Spider-man homecoming movie, his not so tech savvy outfit reminds me of Ben Reilly's outfit
I would love to see the clone saga essentials list you were talking about at the beginning of the video!
cant wait for the rest 😊😊😊😊
CE:The yank effect snapped her neck or at least thats what people say.
Comic page on screen: SNAP!
I read some of the issues of this storyline when they were released. Glad that you are covering it.
Thanx!!!! Funny thing is I was just reading up on the Clone Saga a few days ago...
Learnin new things about comics, errrday
This was my childhood. Thanks Rob for giving it back to me.
when are you going to Do the Kaine video? I'm so excited
I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves the Scarlet Spider outfit the most
Mannnn where are my Comics and Coffee?? used to wake up every morning to watch it!
I love this story!!! The double sided issues you had to turn upside down, the Jackyl. this story honestly cemented Spider-Man in my mind as my favorite hero. I'm probably thinking of the second time they told this story but I loved it. I believe the story I'm thinking of was called "Power and Responsibility" I remember Ben Riley punching out a window in a store front and snagging the blue hoodie and ripping the sleeves off to complete the look of his suit lol
Scarlet spider is one of my favorite heros
lmao literally searched through your whole page last night for a video on the clone saga, just to see it uploaded this very day so good haha,
Ben Reilly is my favorite Spiderman and I couldn't have clicked on this video fast enough! I just recently picked up his new comics couple weeks ago. It seems that he's gone a little crazy but I'm digging it so far
Clone saga was ok. My favorite spider-man story ark ever is maximum carnage. Doppelgänger is so underrated.
This story brought me into the comic books from the 90's cartoon...god i loved this saga! I came after Ben turned Spider-Man, couldn't get enough of it, and then back tracked. I knew he would be revealed as the clone from the first day i began reading and god i loved every moment of it!
Not sure why but I really love how big and angular the eyes are on the costume @12:28. Makes it look even MORE badass
It genuinely warms my heart how many other people loved the outfit 🙏 like hell ya, I always thought it was just me until I scrolled through the comments.
Rock on y'all 🤟
From Prison doc..to this!! Man!!! great job comicstorian
i love this. shaved to only what necessary clone saga was a very interesting concept.
best costume ever! Great job Rob
I LOVED THIS! Ben was my favorite alternate Spidey! You should TOTALLY do a video on X-Man (Nate Grey)! He's my second favorite alternate character just like Ben as Scarlet Spider.
Scarlet Spider is fun! More please
Will you do a mad max series? It would be really cool. Been a long time watcher of your vids but never could thing of a suggestion but that would be neat as hell :D
Thank you.
Ben's Spectacular Suit still slays
🎉THANK YOU 🎉👍🏾👍🏾
Oh God, here we go, Clone Saga!.... JK
Awesome video as always Rob!
yes iv been askin. ty
I thought Rob was gonna slide in my notification dm' s with a dark days forge video but then this video comes out and I digress
Ben Reilly is my favorite Spiderman.
I think one of the issues with the Spiderman film franchises is that they keep recycling the same origin story. The franchise has to move forward not just recycle the same plot. The Spider-Verse is something that hasn't been seen on the silver screen.
Are you listening Sony?
Give us a standalone Scarlet Spider film.
i like the sly "say watssuubbb :sub: "🤣🤣
Waiting for more Spidey videos right before the Homecoming, Rob!
This is where that spider man meme where the two Spider-Men are pointing at each other......nice
just finished the star sapphire and now this pops up! is it my birthday already!
I can think of a few reasons why Shriek hung around as long as she did. (12:48) _The 90's, ladies and gentlemen!_
Hey Rob could you do something on brother Voodoo I know he's not a popular hero but I'd love to learn more about him and your videos are very insightful
Good job love marvel spider man cool
That fucking picture of Sal!!! Lmao, so smug. love it
I remember seeing a clone saga action figure pack at BJs back in 98. Wish I could have picked up all these action figures from the 90s and just have them on ice.
Man I remember collecting this one back in the day. It drove me nuts because it was overly drawn out!
Currently 3/5 books through in the clone saga. I’ll come back to watch this once I start the Ben Reilly epics
Okay but can you share that 16 issue list? Really want to know.
lets be honest. Ben Reily had the dopest costume hands down.
Has*
Yeah even when he took up the Spider Man mantle for a awhile when Spider Man focused more on his unborn child
Yeah
@@IROQUOISxPLISKEN get a life
@@dwaynejones7266 I'm saying its still awesome, chillax lol.