In my experience, if the sphagnum is too wet, maples will just callouss and bridge that gap. I also have taken crab apple, dogwood, elm, red maple, even a few juniper air layers. Of the 10 japanese maple layers I tried last year, only one took (and it was the one I forgot about). That being said, good luck on this one! Shishigashira is a lovely cultivar.
Thanks! I have a pot full of sphagnum and hadn’t really paid too much attention to how moist it was. When I was redoing that one I stuck the moss in water and squeezed it out fairly well. Hopefully thats not too wet. I have a crab apple on the deck I just did last week (but didn’t record) and the dogwood I did last week and I just did a trident maple. Hopefully they all take, but I guess I shouldn’t assume such a high success rate 😬
Yeah it was pretty funny. I took a look at the screen after I was done and it was zoomed in way too far :-) I cut most of it out so you didn't have to watch... lol
I had a similar result 12 months ago with a Palmatum, but I cut it off and planted it. It is now leafing so hopefully what roots are there will be enough to support it.
Oh wow! That’s pretty cool. Grafting is something I’ve never really done much of. I think I tried something simple years ago (might have been a bud in a T cut) but without much research and it didn’t do anything.
So Pokeman_official1… I was at a garden Center in maple ridge today and they had a Yoshino Cherry. The place was called Amsterdam’s… do you have a truck? you should drive out to get it!
@@willbreeze397 oh, I’m in Toronto. It is really hard to get them here but… I got one! Last week I drove about 2 hours to a nursery to get my yoshino cherry. I’m planning on propagating and selling new trees cause there’s lots of demand for em here… I think I’ll try air layering or grafting onto rootstocks
My experience is that every tool and also the moss has to be super clean a sterile before stripping the bark and covering it with moss. Best to also clean and rise the moss before apply. Bad idea of using the samw moss. Plus the cut has to be super clean. Also cover the air layer moss ball with foil to protect it from the sun.
Have you considered putting a second layer of black plastic over the clear? Most of the tutorials I've seen suggest that. I've only done a few myself and obviously your cherry ones worked well.
Yeah that’s a good point. For the cherry I had a very thick plastic from a soil bag and there were opaque sections on it. I’ve definitely seen some people say that darkness doesn’t matter (especially given the moss is opaque) but maybe I should go back to using cut up soil bags instead of sandwich bags.
Trial and error hopefully it takes this time I had most of mine fail seems to be a moisture problem I’ve noticed if it’s too wet the branch can start to rot and get mildew which seems to affect the health of the branch. I’m no expert but I put about 20 air layers on my Japanese maple last September most woke up just fine but now most have died off again probably due to too much moisture near the cut sight
Just have to keep trying. So far I have been lucky with the failures because they seem to give me a second chance. Sorry yours didn’t make it. I’ll definitely try keeping the moss less wet and see if that helps.
@@willbreeze397 a few of the air layers I placed seem to be going strong. Honestly it’s really trial and error with me at the moment and no big loss bc the branches in air layering would have been pruned off anyway. I’m using a large lace leaf acer garden tree that has been growing for years and now I have to do some structural work before the tree suffers. I’m considering drastically reducing the tree and then air layering it above the graft
In my experience, if the sphagnum is too wet, maples will just callouss and bridge that gap. I also have taken crab apple, dogwood, elm, red maple, even a few juniper air layers. Of the 10 japanese maple layers I tried last year, only one took (and it was the one I forgot about). That being said, good luck on this one! Shishigashira is a lovely cultivar.
Thanks! I have a pot full of sphagnum and hadn’t really paid too much attention to how moist it was. When I was redoing that one I stuck the moss in water and squeezed it out fairly well. Hopefully thats not too wet.
I have a crab apple on the deck I just did last week (but didn’t record) and the dogwood I did last week and I just did a trident maple. Hopefully they all take, but I guess I shouldn’t assume such a high success rate 😬
"And...Its all off camera.perfect.good job will...."😂😂😂😂man that was epic!!!hope you'll have success this time.
Yeah it was pretty funny. I took a look at the screen after I was done and it was zoomed in way too far :-) I cut most of it out so you didn't have to watch... lol
I had a similar result 12 months ago with a Palmatum, but I cut it off and planted it. It is now leafing so hopefully what roots are there will be enough to support it.
Sounds like it’s doing well. Good luck!
I hope it works the second time around.
Fingers crossed… that was three weeks ago, hopefully I’ll see some signs of roots soon!
Very inspiring, thank you..
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Your welcome bro
Bro I got a flowering cherry to graft on to a fruiting cherry! Got real exited after I saw it had sprouted up after I came back from my trip.
Oh wow! That’s pretty cool.
Grafting is something I’ve never really done much of. I think I tried something simple years ago (might have been a bud in a T cut) but without much research and it didn’t do anything.
So Pokeman_official1… I was at a garden Center in maple ridge today and they had a Yoshino Cherry. The place was called Amsterdam’s… do you have a truck? you should drive out to get it!
@@willbreeze397 oh, I’m in Toronto. It is really hard to get them here but… I got one!
Last week I drove about 2 hours to a nursery to get my yoshino cherry.
I’m planning on propagating and selling new trees cause there’s lots of demand for em here… I think I’ll try air layering or grafting onto rootstocks
@@Pokeman_official1 oh I’m glad to hear that. I was thinking I would have to get it and mail you a cutting or something. 😂
@@willbreeze397 haha 😂 it didn’t have to come to that lol thanks
You can also try fine bark. Also prick a hole in the bottom of the ball to allow drainage.
None of my shishi layers took.
Thanks!
That’s too bad, I wonder if shishi is more difficult or if we were just unlucky.
My experience is that every tool and also the moss has to be super clean a sterile before stripping the bark and covering it with moss. Best to also clean and rise the moss before apply. Bad idea of using the samw moss. Plus the cut has to be super clean. Also cover the air layer moss ball with foil to protect it from the sun.
Thanks!
Have you considered putting a second layer of black plastic over the clear?
Most of the tutorials I've seen suggest that. I've only done a few myself and obviously your cherry ones worked well.
Yeah that’s a good point. For the cherry I had a very thick plastic from a soil bag and there were opaque sections on it. I’ve definitely seen some people say that darkness doesn’t matter (especially given the moss is opaque) but maybe I should go back to using cut up soil bags instead of sandwich bags.
Trial and error hopefully it takes this time I had most of mine fail seems to be a moisture problem I’ve noticed if it’s too wet the branch can start to rot and get mildew which seems to affect the health of the branch. I’m no expert but I put about 20 air layers on my Japanese maple last September most woke up just fine but now most have died off again probably due to too much moisture near the cut sight
Just have to keep trying. So far I have been lucky with the failures because they seem to give me a second chance. Sorry yours didn’t make it. I’ll definitely try keeping the moss less wet and see if that helps.
@@willbreeze397 a few of the air layers I placed seem to be going strong. Honestly it’s really trial and error with me at the moment and no big loss bc the branches in air layering would have been pruned off anyway. I’m using a large lace leaf acer garden tree that has been growing for years and now I have to do some structural work before the tree suffers. I’m considering drastically reducing the tree and then air layering it above the graft
I think if you cover the clear sheet of plastic with a piece of Alunimum foil you get bettr resuls 👍👌
Thanks, I guess I should do some testing and give it a try.
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It sucks it didnt work first time will but hopefully second time you'll get better results.
Thanks Christopé, I’m sure this time will be better!