SpaceX Massively Updates Starship! Ready For Flight 5!
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- We Spotted the first piece of a second Starship Block 2 nose cone, and that's only the beginning! In preparation for flight 5, SpaceX's teams begin… removing parts of the chopsticks?! Ship 33 gets its last pieces; testing is right around the corner! And scientists just made a massive discovery on Mars; it changes everything!
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Do you think SpaceX should try testing this with a Falcon 9 first, or maybe you have another idea?Let me know!
Na just go for it, Fk it
F9 won’t be compatible with a catch as it can’t hover (the engine needs to ignite precisely that the speed will be 0 at touchdown, too early and it will start going up again and too late then it will crash land)
If Starship gets caught and they use that tech a lot, I would imagine F9 might get catch options later.
The post flight investigation of a failed catch would likely take far longer than rebuilding the first tower and finishing the second tower combined. If the catch doesnt go 100% to plan, there will be a mishap investigation, and if the booster fails to light up and it comes in at full speed, that investigation will take ages. Not to mention all the enviro groups and possible legal actrion from said groups holding things up. SpaceX will have prototypes and towers ready to go before the red tape is done with.
@@anthonylosegonah, they'll switch all over to starship. The only ones that will stay on f9 will be those with contracts signed before starship is used commercially.
They can't use a Falcon for this maneuver because Falcon's can't 'hover' with their current Merlin engines. They are currently slamming into the earth and using the Merlin engines to kill the speed before hitting the ground. The raptors being used by Starship can be throttled down and Booster/Starship have enough weight to allow it to hover while lit. That is the only reason why Starship can be 'caught' while Falcon's can't.
Yes.
Thanks. That's good to learn. 👍
True but 90% sure Elon has stated that super heavy won’t hover. The fact falcons can’t hover do not prevent them from being caught, the necessary expenditure on new infrastructure on both the ground and on falcon is what prevents them from catching falcon 9. They would have to redesign the entire vehicle as well as change every falcon launch site just to prove the concept of a catch, they may as well make a whole new rocket… Maybe out of stainless steel or something…
Yeah, what he said.
@@gorgonbert So are the "same old" headlines, can't tell one "update" from another.
Flight 5 has felt 2-3 weeks away for 3 months
@@idomdotcom0001 easy to do. Ask Bezos...
@@hawkdsl You mean just fusion? Cold fusion probably isn't a thing.
@@smugfrog8111 Cold fusion is real, they had it on the saucer when they abducted me
213 days from April 20 to nov 18 2023
118 days from nov 18 2023 to march 14 2024
84 days from march 14 to June 6 2024
June 6th to today august 30 2024 is 86 days the reason why flight 5 is taking longer because it is a far more complicated to build and test the infrastructure for a launch attempt plus the FAA has been delaying their licensing for the starship with no new leads on the starship at this time
its a big step
I like the new format. Cleaner, no distractions. Thanks for all you do Felix.
Agreed. This is so much more enjoyable to watch.
Rest in pieces B1062
Everyone who had criticized SpaceX for such brazen moves is only exemplifying the behavior that has kept our space program at a standstill/retraction. Pioneers do!
@Mac-oj1vm imagine how much we could accomplish if people learned how to dream again, and instead of fighting one another, we could all focus on building a better society for human beings, not corporations.
Not in my lifetime, but after society collapses and rebuilds, perhaps we'll realize we need to do things differently.
The booster would never hit the pad at full speed, it's going to dogleg over to the pad after the landing burn starts. And as Elon said if something goes wrong during the landing burn the booster will "YEET" itself into the ocean.
Yeah, because he'd never be full of sh*t for a government contract, right?
@@Blodhelm OP is correct as this is already done for f9 landings; f9 booster aims for a point in the ocean then doglegs towards barge/pad once its happy the engines are working. Reasonable to expect a similar flight profle for superheavy recovery.
@@Blodhelmwhy would he lie about not wanting to destroy his own property
But if it hit the pad, it would be a quicker start to make lots of improvements to it, without having to take it apart first…
@@Blodhelm Pretty sure its not in his best interests to destroy one of his launchpads. I get that you don't like the guy but can you at least criticize him for stuff that merits criticism? Like whine about how Starlink will result in civil unrest in 3rd world countries due to governments not being able to control internet access.
That much water on mars is mind blowing . Now we need to find a large cave .
I think that's what Elon's "boring company" is for?...the first astronauts will live beneath the surface (radiation protection?)..with linking up (neurolink) to his Optimus robots on the surface building infrastructure for humanity...with starlink also around mars...all makes sense
@@222inverter he's playing a detailed 4X game in reality (or our simulation).
It’s astonishing how fast Spacex is able to do things.
Go starship go!! Can’t wait for Flight 5! 👏🏻
Imagine if they weren't hold back by the Kafkaesque bureaucracy how much faster they would be.
@@admarsandbeyondWe could be on pluto by now if beurocracy wasnt in the way
Super overrated..
True! Blistering speed!! It's keeps things fresh and exciting.
spacex is basically catching a skyscraper with chopsticks like mr miyagi
Tiles on, Tiles off...
This needs 3 👍
i found more impressive that it is thin like a can, starship tank wall is only 4mm think
Boeings PR department probably costs millions , spaceX is zero because of people like you . From all us fans THANKS
Funny, because SpaceX is all hype. Grounded again and NASA can't even plan its moon mission, something we did in the 60's with 1 launch, because Elon can't show them that Starship can carry an apple into orbit, let alone 100 tons, which would still need 16-22 launches to get that can to the moon.
@@Blodhelm Yawn, sorry your stocks have taken such a hit buddy.
And yet with all those millions I bet their PR department spends almost all their time like
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@@BlodhelmSeriously, SpaceX is all hype?!? Who’s rescuing Boeing’s passengers?!! All Boeing does is double their projected costs and timelines and then STILL can’t deliver, even when given 3x the amount of initial development money. What a freakin joke saying SpaceX is why NASA can’t go to the moon!!!
@@Blodhelm Hey did you know that the Apollo missions cost 250b$ in today's money whereas Starship has so far gotten like 10b$?
I suspect that SpaceX isn't too concerned about nuking Pad 1 simply because it's the old design which they've already revised, just like they had plans for some kind of deluge/diverter originally but let IFT 1 dig a hole anyway. Besides, seeing how the tower survives a failed catch attempt is useful data, too.
Drilling 20km may go from impossible to improbable, but you first have to get 100km of drill pipe plus accessories there.
Bump stops will get replaced with piston dampers. This creates outward load on the arms as they are closing so they don't bounce and stay under tension 100% of the time as they get close to the actual "catch". This is a common technique in machining to get rid of back lash in drive screws and gears.
You are stating pure speculation as fact
That's just what I was thinking, though I pictured as a large shock absorber. We're agreeing on the principle/objective.
@@incandescentwithrage So HOW do you think SpaceX will deal with that bouncing in the arms...since I'm "speculating"?
Love the channel Felix! Best part of my Mornings!
Felix you've been stuck at 2.8 million returning people that aren't subbed for months now. I think its safe to say your pitch isn't working
Hope Flight 5 launches soon
Keep hoping.
The problem with the bumpers was the rebound.
This is one of the best videos you've made. That was fantastic.
I'm surprised they didn't launch a super heavy without a Starship, go up to 30 km or so, and do a live test catch. They're either so confident of a catch, or figure there's enough to be learned from even a full failure that they're going for it.
Launching a superheavy to 30km and catching it wouldn't be any different than doing a full orbital launch and catching it. And with the full launch they can test Starship at the same time.
Why not just stick a ship on top at that point and go the whole hog.. a catch is a catch ultimately, no matter how high the booster gets, it will still perform the same landing profile from at the very least a kilometer up. The destructive potential would still be there in its entirety
Good idea
@admarsandbeyond 😂😂 not.much difference, uhh big difference
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Felix, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t have over one million subscribers. Your knowledge and revelations are second to none!
My thoughts for a smaller-scale catch test would be doing a hop. Having a barely-fuelled super heavy lift off, take it up like 10 meters, then lower it back down to be caught. Would verify that the chopsticks can support the weight at catch, determine the amount of damage to the booster, determine the amount of flame damage to the launch mount, and, if anything went wrong, a booster falling that slow from not very high up would only risk denting some metal they'd have to hammer back out, rather than completely KO-ing the entire launch mount and catch tower.
That is some crazy Tony Stark level of awesome. I knew SpaceX was doing some cool stuff. But this is not what I was expecting.
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Because Pad B is an improvement over Pad A, damage or loss of Pad A would not create a catastrophic loss for SpaceX or substantially slow Starship/Super Heavy Development development
An intermediate solution to testing the Catch function - fly the Booster only, partially fueled, to a high altitude, and then complete to landing phase under equivalent conditions. But then you would expend a Booster but not gain the Starship launch. Probably best to proceed with the flight as planned.
4:13 i would add that falcon 9 cant do the same thing because it has way too much thrust to hover so it does a suicide burn unlike super heavy which should be able to hover
So ready for the next flight
The chopstick catch will take time to perfect
I think so, too. If it doesn't go 'Perfect' the first few times, so what, that's how they learn. 💁♂️
True, it will bring a whole new meaning to the words Sonic Boom if they get it wrong. Silly Idea, they should take time to practice a bit more first.
@@user-ev1ub5es5m This literally IS the practice.
Felix, scale models have been tested for a long time. It wouldn't be anything unusual if SpaceX were to test a scale model of a booster for a catch attempt. I still think they could lift that test tank with a crane and then lower it slowly for a catch attempt, then speed it up a few times to see how it goes. I'm not too worried about a returning booster hitting the tower, I'm more concerned with a booster slamming into the tank farm -- that would be a major BOOM!
Why not bunny hop a Starship booster (like Starhopper did) to do a test catch?
Excellent question. My guess is that they don't want to put stage zero at risk unless it's being used for a real launch. A real launch produces data on all aspects of launch/orbit/reentry/landing, rather than just the booster landing.
@@meanderinoranges Yeah, that seems reasonable. Feels like a similar reason why they stopped at one hopper test and one successful belly flop test. I wanted to see more of those and figured they could get more data, but reason it's all they need and like @hawkdsl mentions, they don't need to spend the money.
So grateful to be alive and 40 at this part of space exploration. We are experiencing history in real time! 🤯
The whole water on Mars thing reminds me of "Total Recall" and it's having something that would create an atmosphere.
And I think the answer is the same as the movie. Start the reactor Quaid 🤔
Creating atmosphere is one problem, but keeping it is another( no protective magnetic field ).
When your knowledge of astrophysics comes from movies, of course it seems like it could work.
@@danielreborn4707 It would take a VERY long time for Mars to lose its atmosphere. It took a few hundred million years to lose its original after it lost its magnetic field. It would be pretty trivial to replenish it if we could re-create it in the first place (e.g. release massive quantities of that underground water to the open and increase pressure)
The water is so deep (11-20 km) that it’s useless for most purposes.
Unlike the graphic where the starship failed to translate from the belly flop to hover and hit the pad. This manuver will take place over the water just off shore. Once hovering,while breaking to a stop, it will manuver towards the chopsticks.
With the accuracy of the Falcon 9s in landing space X will certainly make the Starship booster landing to perfection. 😊
I don't think even Falcon 9s landing precision is good enough for landing on a tower.
@@DaveAFrizz yet....
Returning to pad like that makes repair, inspection, and refueling an order of magnitude easier. Moving a rocket on the ground is difficult and time consuming.
We can't learn and improve things without mistakes happening. If it goes perfect 🤯 That would be incredible 🎉🎉
Today I bought a raincoat and wore it on a sunny day.
12:58 - sneak peek of block 4
I'd say the removed the chopstick stop buffers so the arms can close off centre, allowing one arm to close -5deg while the other follows at ±5deg
Godspeed Starship! It is the hope of all mankind.
wat
@@christianmiguelcondolon1232 ?
@@S-T-A-R-M-A-N wat
Nope.
God is the only hope of mankind.
If we can't learn to live together on planet Earth then we have zero chance on Mars.
4:34
Great animation. Caught me by surprise.
Hi! I'm going to Cape Canaveral for the first time during my honeymoon. I will be there around September 24th which is the launch of Falcon 9 • Crew 9. Where is the best place to see the launch?
I often watch your videos. thank you!
Jetty Park Launch Viewpoint at Port Canaveral is an amazing spot to watch. Night launch especially are great from that viewing area and it's "free" at night. I haven't been there during the day or when there's a cruise ship in dock so the parking might be taken up by that. But you can see and hear the launch a long way out along the beach, including Cocoa Beach, if you want to make it a day and need to have the kids (or new wife 🙂) entertained.
@@DaveAFrizz
Thank you for the information! Do you also know if PLAYALINDA Beach is a good option?
@@DaveAFrizz i'm staying in cocoa beach so would it be worth traveling to playdalinda beach? Or can you just as easily see it from Port Canaveral?
Falcon 9 has a smaller diameter, so, the chopsticks could not be parallel. The tips could touch if F9 is closer to the tower allowing it to slip through. Once caught F9 could not be shifted in or out along the chopsticks to rest centered on the OLM (assuming they want to use the water deluge for this catch). Otherwise, the mobile carrier is not configured for F9.
If the bumpers were set to the width of the booster, then when they bumped together, a ripple would have been induced into the chopsticks that would cause them to open and close like ones hands clapping. This would cause a recoil of the arms away from, then into, the vehicle: Bad! I've seen this happen on a much smaller scale. There are better methods, such as compression dampers (Large, tuned damper, shock absorbers if you will.), to do that kind of job.
Also, the structure of a Falcon 9 is not designed for a catch. A specially built version would have to be created that didn't have landing legs and would have the necessary structural reinforcement to handle the catch. A new set of chopsticks capable of closing to the desired size would also need to be created as the Starship ones are 300% too big. The amount of money and time necessary to conduct this test is impractical.
Another issue is that, contrary to classroom physics, scaling results has it's issues; Systems simply act differently when scaled up. Again, an issue I've seen in the past.
Thank you for this Awesome update!
10:34 The new noses are not pointy enough.
Another reason that building a catch tower for a falcon 9 is that they already have that data. As I understand it, the booster is supposed to come to a stop, as the chopsticks close. They already have all the data they need on a falcon 9 booster coming to a stop at exactly the right time, and they recently obtained the data on the chopsticks closing. They also have at least one set of data on the starship booster coming to a complete stop from the last flight. It only remains to be seen if they can hit the target and if they can synchronize the actions.
Cave colonies on Mars! That’s a sci-fi book just waiting to be written.
Cave dwelling would solve the radiation issues for habitation and we could build up an atmosphere underground until we are advanced enough for surface terraforming.
Books written long ago. The Red Mars, Blue Mars, Green Mars trilogy.
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On the subject of why they can't use a Falcon 9 to simulate the catch of a buster, the Falcon 9 uses a "Suicide Burn", Because even at minimal thrust with a single engine on return it is so light it has a greater the 1 thrust to weight ratio. Basically it can not hover, it lands by trying to 0 out it's speed right as it lands and turning off the engine at the same time. The buster is able to hover on return, and doesn't use a reentry burn to slow down in the upper atmosphere. In short as was stated they are two completely different vehicles. I am sure Space X has already applied all possible information from the development and operations of Falcon 9 and getting it to land to guide the development of the buster.
Also as other have noted the reentry profile for the buster will bring it down in the ocean if the engines don't relite. I am sure they have automated in the guidance computer to only start to guide the buster to the launch pad if everything is operating properly. And even then they would still have options to redirect the booster back to ocean in most cases. I would say the risk to the tower is relatively small and they will have the second tower finished before the next test flight either way.
All good points. But seriously, if SpaceX wanted to do it, they could. Since the falcon would just be hopping, it could carry as much fuel, or a mass simulator, to allow it to hover. It’s not like they would do it with a random returning booster. They’d build a test article. Possibly using a well used booster. As you point out, a Falcon can’t hover because it’s too light….so add weight.
@@evanmorris1178 But it's also not hard to see why they wouldn't bother. The goal is to catch Starship, not Falcon, and any effort spent on doing Falcon-based experiments would a) be of limited value because it's a different vehicle, and b) would be a distraction from doing Starship development.
@@simongeard4824 Agreed. I just read so many people claiming it’s impossible. I think they could do it, but I seriously doubt they would want to.
@@evanmorris1178 Oh, yeah, it's certainly *possible*... as you say, an empty Falcon booster can't hover, but that just means you need to add some ballast to make it heavier.
At first, I thought at least 4 or 5 virtual catches would be done before an actual catch, but now I'm not. SpaceX has obviously gathered enough data from the last 2 flights to feel confident to perform an actual catch. "Break things fast and make them better." I wish SpaceX a perfect catch on flight 5.
If it fails relit engines ,it will be traveling supersomic, with dry mass alone and fumes inside tank it will be enought to demolish entire launch tower.
I believe it dog legs a bit after relight. So if it doesn't relight, it goes straight into the ocean. Or self destruct???
An empty booster weighs less than half a million pounds and is made of thin sheet metal. The tower, which is filled with concrete, masses hundreds of times the booster. Also the booster does not come straight down at the tower so if the engines fail it just hits the ocean.
@@filonin2 Yeah, it's like chucking an empty coke can at someone. It might hurt a little, but it's not going to do any serious injury. That tower is a *lot* more solid and more massive than the boosters...
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An even more relevant question is do you have to interrupt "every" vid with the same spiel??? "We've looked into our channel metrics and..." If viewers like your content they will sub...if they don't, then keep reading the comments and making good videos and the channel will grow naturally. You do a disservice interrupting the flow of every vid to beg for subs and likes... It's unbecoming and clashes with the balance of the production which is done well with professionalism. Maybe include it every 3rd or 4th vid or move it to the very end of the vid if you simply can't help yourself and must include it. At least there it will not disrupt the presentation as it does now.
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10:10 Elon Wonka and the Starship Factory
I imagine those bumpers were just training wheels for the chop sticks
If the test works on the big one its built. A trophy catcher
1062 on Forever Patrol
A falcon 9 without legs would enable more RTLS missions, a drone ship with a tower would enable larger payload to orbit...
The FAA will make sure that the next flight will never get off the ground.
Why?
Just because? You do realize the FAA is not adversarial to SpaceX and that they are working together, right? Clearly not. You've created a fictional plot line in your head to entertain yourself. Maybe write a fanfic.
@@zebo-the-fat They hate Elon... It's no secret... and now after the latest mishap they'll tie things up in bureaucratic red tape for years.
@@filonin2 No... I have seen the US Congress question these people. They were told to change things because they were taking Months to approve launches.
How about a super heavy hop test to test the catching process.
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Catching the booster seems so outlandish. But considering SpaceX's very short but incredible reputation, and seeing them doubling down on the concept, fills me with confidence that they will succeed.
Felix, dude. That intersection with info telling us to check subscription and like stuff is such a turnoff that after this intersection I am kind of tuning out and don’t care about the rest of the content. Do you think you should cancel it or at least say only once a month. I don’t think it’s helping your goal
This is is his career. He has to make money. It’s like 20 seconds long. I don’t think they care if you stop watching since 99% of people don’t mind it
Kooha, dude. Literally nobody except you cares. Go complain on NSF where they'll just shadowban you anyway.
I really believe that if the booster hits the pad in an uncontrolled way, spaceX probably wants to replace that water deluge method with the new design used on pad 2 they are almost done with anyway. I think getting rid of the deluge would be an advantage to SpaceX simply to get the FAA looking at one fewer thing.
@hawkdsl true but currently the FAA seems to be up in arms about water contamination. Just saying if it crashes there is at least one positive.
"Flight" 5? The first two exploded 3 times and the third returned uncontrolled and burnt all to hell. None of them even had dummy payloads. We have no idea how much weight one of these can carry because none of them have successfully carried anything. This moon mission isn't happening anytime soon, if at all.
The Feds keep on blocking testing and progress. Bad people.
vehicle flew in the air? -> it’s a flight
They'll have plenty of time before SLS is ready, 😞
Hi Felix! I can't wait for this launch! and somehow CZcams recomended me this video in 6 minutes.
The starship is a prototype and so is tower One. We need to see what happens with the catch attempt to get the information needed to make better equipment for the future.
3:33 Я бы сделал такой дизайн бамперов чтобы они могли закрываться на чуть большее расстояние, чем размер ракетоносителя .
Более узкий зазор ближе к концам Палочек , надежда на автоматику.
Но если не сработает то есть механика. Которая не даст возникнуть более катастрофическим последствиям если будут проблемы с автоматическими системами. Я бы сделал не два бампера а две упругие рессоры которые бы слегка гасили удар.
Но это было бы временное решение на период испытаний этой концепции. Дальше стоило бы придумать что-то более лучшее
Man, you are just excellent. Thank you
To be accurate, they *did not* discover massive amount of water underground on Mars. They discovered *evidence* of the water. It's the difference between holding a test tube of water and holding a paper sheet with numbers and graphs.
No there's water
@@ZSpace23000 You say that (and hopefully it is the case) based on what? On the *evidence* of water, not directly on water.
One of the things that can be the case is that there is water, however we need to study this more before jumping to conclusions.
Fantastic episode 😳
Thank You very much dear Felix
i love how theres just a traffic jam and then you see starship in it too XD
Great video. Thanks
The Merlin 1D engine is only slightly throttleable, and Elon has said on multiple occassions that F9 first stage landiings are a "hover slam". I.e. The M1D can't throttle enough to provide hover, so they program the F9/M1D to reach zero velocity at zero altitude. If you watch the SpaceX F9 launch videos, you'll notice the landings are markedly different the BO's New Shepard landings where the rocket can actually sit and hover for a bit. Super Heavy, as I understand it, will be able to hover like BO+NS in place until the chopsticks can engage.
The other thing, if I relate catching SH like trapping a jet on an aircraft carrier... the jet has landing gear that is hydraulic and has give, as do the tires. The cross deck pendant (cable / wire) also has give, as does the arresting gear engine below decks, which is hydraulic and likewise has give. Plane is much lighter but lands much faster... SH is much heavier, but lands much slower... I just don't see that much give in the chopsticks... the draw cables might give a little, and part of the chopsticks move to absorb the force of landing a bit, but I still worry that those tabs on SH meant to catch the chopsticks might just get ripped off as the ship and system are unable to accomodate motion between the two enough. Time will tell.
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What about using some sort of airbag with ridges on the catcharms like the skirt from a hovercraft or soft rubber?
Starship launch cadence has just had a set-back. Time between full-stack flight 1 & flight 2 was 6 months & 29 days Time between flight 2 & flight 3 was 3 months & 25 days. Time between flight 3 & flight 4 was 2 months & 23 days. Two months & 23 days past flight 4 was August 29th!
I love the fact that you hide Star Wars ships in your stills. Not spotted that before. It gave me a giggle.
wait for a fully operational tower II and do the first attempt there... then you wouldn´t risk the one and only tower I...
In a perfect world this would be tops new finding that amount of water on a planet so close to our home
I always thought they would at least make something like a super heavey hop-to-catch-test. But they just smash the sticks against the can and go for it 😀
Really would be smart to start sending Mars Landers that can clear the dust off of their solar panels when needed.
Those bumpers were causing the chopsticks to bounce back open slightly upon closing
That was so weird seeing that clip you put in from 2001 a space Odyssey. I literally watched it two days ago.
Not sure if the creators of the "Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences" wanted to make sure that you never use the acronym when talking about them, or whether they just really liked to mention their little Richards.
(there is no way it is an accident, is what I'm saying...)
Catching and Hot Staging is the same philosophy - incremental efficency. By themselfes these decicions do not matter a lot but together it is a big deal.
I think they should be testing catching the booster with booster only launches. This would be similar to the early Starship launches when they landed them on unfolding legs. However, this scheme would have either only Starships or only Boosters launch to a 30k to 50k feet altitude then retirn to launch-pad for catch attempt...
Bumpers on chopsticks...
My guess is that they might want to replace them with new "bumpers" that can lock to each other and prevent any backward-forward movement - which has been observed during tests.
Chopsticks are way too heavy right now, generally that's a good thing for lifting and handling equipment but for something requiring quick precise movement the momentum and moments are the wrong way around.
Increase hyd supply, reduce moment and reduce weight.
It would be safer to build a large water reservoir to the side of the launch mount and catch the booster over that reservoir makes common sense and provides a place for booster to plunge into if it slips through the chopsticks
The ocean makes a bigger target, and it's free.
In Boston MA, they needed to do the same thing but first, they had to FREEZE IT, which we will not get into, what they were putting in is called, a COPPER DAM? VERY NORMAL for places by the water. I know the copper dam needed to go down to BED ROCK. but here down south they do not have any rules to building anything. A 4 inch slab build a house on top of it.
I think SpaceX should catch the booster on flight 5 as planned.
Agreed. They better attempt it. Might as well when Tower could be ready is a few months anyway.
What the chopsticks need are: Rubber, baby buggy bumpers!
The cushions were quite small, so I think they were only test articles for wider cushions extending all the length (or longer length) of the catch arms. The ones removed didn't need to be longer because the position of the test vehicle/tank was known when they tested it, the exact position of landing superheavy along the arms is not so well known in advance.
Using movable launch mounts is an obvious solution to Pad B. If one gets fried, use another.
This changes everything ...
They could’ve modified SN26 as a Hoppy and use that to the test chopstick catching ability.
The middle post they removed was likely the major contributor to the bouncing wobble of the chopstick arms. A hard stop barely in front of the pivot point with long heavy arms extending well past that.
Why not have a dedicated catch Tower and then you can eliminate possibly damaging the launch tower.....
Just my 2 cents.
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