In conversation with Mavuso Msimang - Ramaphosa's unlikely internal critic

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • Mavuso Msimang (80) is among a thinning group of ANC veterans who left SA in their youth to self-exile during Apartheid. In his case, working in Tanzania for the armed wing Mkonto we Sizwe after a year's training in Moscow studying how to create home-made bombs. The career public servant, conservation icon and inaugural chairman of Corruption Watch, is currently chairing a presidentially-appointed task team to advise on ways to cutting bureaucratic red tape. Msimang hit South African news headlines this month after calling for president Cyril Ramaphosa to step down over the Phala Phala scandal, the first high profile member of the 'good' ANC to adopt this stance. He explains why during this in-depth conversation with Alec Hogg of BizNews.com, airing the even more controversial view that losing power in the 2024 National Election may be the best thing that could happen to the ANC. Until recently it was inconceivable that the century-old political party losing a majority in SA's Parliament enjoyed since the country's first democratic election in 1994.

Komentáře • 61

  • @lebohangmoloi6229
    @lebohangmoloi6229 Před 2 lety +20

    Eish only if...
    What a beautiful south african this leader is.

  • @petebuttons210
    @petebuttons210 Před 2 lety +19

    Mavuso looks like a younger Morgan Freemon.

  • @heidiswart4648
    @heidiswart4648 Před 2 lety +10

    What a great guy ...Balance and educated.. Well done...Deserves respect..

  • @mazmkhulisi8979
    @mazmkhulisi8979 Před 2 lety +7

    Great interview. I wish there was more time spent on exploring options that can take our country forward.

    • @ewpfarber
      @ewpfarber Před 2 lety +1

      Movies

    • @tonitappous2422
      @tonitappous2422 Před 2 lety +2

      @ Maz Mhkulise See very inspiring BizNews interview with Mayor Chris Pappas ( 30, fluent in isiZulu) of uMngeni Municipality. He says getting the basics of service delivery right will take SA forward. The interviewer is Alec Hogg.

  • @wendsdogmom
    @wendsdogmom Před 2 lety +2

    What is so sad is that all the good ANC guys are really old . This guy should be president. Train the young generation how they do this right

  • @joshuaborias4781
    @joshuaborias4781 Před 2 lety +2

    "RESPECT, Doctor MAVUSO MSIMANG.A Great THINKER"

  • @glynhunter3031
    @glynhunter3031 Před 2 lety +2

    An outstanding and very encouraging interview. Mr Msimang would make an excellent interim president.

  • @ecco8994
    @ecco8994 Před 2 lety +5

    Thank you. Plenty Government officials on the midlands side have roots in Pietermaritzburg and Newcastle

  • @thabokabai4188
    @thabokabai4188 Před 2 lety +4

    Can’t wait to hear more from him at the end of Aug.

  • @tshepomalephane2621
    @tshepomalephane2621 Před 2 lety +3

    clear and concise ...great insight

  • @anthonyyazbek2920
    @anthonyyazbek2920 Před 2 lety +1

    Respect , Mr Msimang

  • @thekikster11
    @thekikster11 Před 2 lety +8

    Beautiful person

  • @rasimo9262
    @rasimo9262 Před 2 lety +1

    The guy who may transition ANC briefly if they not sure who to lead, very profound

  • @ndamanekandamanei1965
    @ndamanekandamanei1965 Před 2 lety +12

    Grandstanding, if he was serious Mavuso would talk to his comrades in parliament to table a motion of no confidence or section 89 impeachment. Sadly he does not table an end game strategy that will take the country beyond the President and the ANC. Without such a strategy no matter how noble he may sound, he can't escape the reckless factionalist tag. Pandering to the media without clarity on the way forward opens himself up to some doubt.

    • @sebbya8370
      @sebbya8370 Před 2 lety +4

      What are you doing about it besides criticising someone on YT comments

    • @ignetiusrapelwana2208
      @ignetiusrapelwana2208 Před 2 lety +2

      ''The snake, the rat, the cat, the dog
      How you gon' see him if you living in the fog? 🎼🎼'' DMX

    • @lebohang8405
      @lebohang8405 Před 2 lety

      Way of wayward mobsters. Keep the ill in the cover of darkness, even when there's nothing to protect.

    • @topotheworld1589
      @topotheworld1589 Před 2 lety

      He did say that taking care of the poor by providing properly built or engineered facilities even if buying in the private sector... well , BEE'S have been involved and that seems nothing like a a slice of the public sector.
      Let's just unburden this massive rolling dung beetle that can't clean up after itself in keeping to a democracy as a democratic industrial & commercial
      & private & business, business sector. All these deep nosed terms " the private sector" are never used without having acquired a different freshed up and dress colored meaning...it's totemic.b.s
      Like Cyril went for laundry on every cleanly spoken word and still lands up as a gentry of cadres up for the largely incompetent..tired of the affair..? Next.? .. and Boris Yeltsin as well..
      Why doesn't the ANC choose business first and privacy last..

    • @johnsmit7203
      @johnsmit7203 Před 2 lety

      Ndamane ka Ndamane - i agree with you mostly on the grandstanding and the fact that no way forward is forthcoming from the cadre. It stems from something he stated namely INCOMPETENCE. When you are incompetent as a leader, and the "people" you are supposed to serve, suffers, then you default to what is in your best interest. You look after no. 1 and i do not mean Father Jacob (Zuma) but rather "me, myself and i. Simple as that. And if you sidle up, with likeminded people, of which there are plenty, then you have a syndicate.

  • @mfanakithi2002
    @mfanakithi2002 Před 2 lety +2

    Mavuso is such a dope Old G to listen too

  • @rosalindgerber
    @rosalindgerber Před 2 lety +7

    the ANC has operated as a syndicate by virtue of the fact that there are internal factions colluding for power.

    • @johnsmit7203
      @johnsmit7203 Před 2 lety

      Despite the internal strife in the cANCer, between factions for the ever decreasing resources, one thing these factions have in common is the desire to steal the lion's share of the remaining but rapidly dwindling loot left. In that endeavour they are uniquely in agreement. Hence the saying "as thick as thieves" when trying to explain the strong bond between these cretins.

  • @user-ou3px1kn3o
    @user-ou3px1kn3o Před 2 lety +2

    I will not forget your track record at home affairs

    • @hildadavids217
      @hildadavids217 Před 9 měsíci

      @user-ou3px1kn30 You can say that again, this man cleaned up Home affairs, got the biometric sorted out, it used to be a nightmare that Home Affairs under Dhlamini Zuma. Corruption was at it highest. At the time, the Nigerians had their own Home Affairs stamps, having their own immigration offices, they were running amok. He would get in there, they raised their voices as if they were running our country. He stood up against them, in the end, a big Nigerian guy would be crying like a baby after all the stamps and everything was revealed. That was on SABC on TV. I have the greatest respect for this man. Thank you for saving our country.

  • @molatelofelix7084
    @molatelofelix7084 Před 2 lety +1

    I always see the office of the president been delt with differently. I believe this is because of the office not the person. Just imagine if Fraser was a president ready to tell all. We will not have a country. What Ramaphosa knows, many of us don't. I don't believe he will give us problems. After all that is his money, only technicalities make the difference. Can we not loose focus of those who stole our money.

  • @businessyear6827
    @businessyear6827 Před 2 lety +1

    Are you not corrupt if you launder money? Its criminal but not corrupt? Crazy analogy

  • @kambrose1549
    @kambrose1549 Před 2 lety +4

    Name a few of these saintly potential caretaker presidents in the ANC.

    • @mashudumaxwellmbuwe7
      @mashudumaxwellmbuwe7 Před 2 lety

      I have picked up what his motives were. To him Lindiwe Sisulu is a Saint .

    • @uzilemoni7727
      @uzilemoni7727 Před 2 lety

      @@mashudumaxwellmbuwe7 Yooh, are you suicidal?

  • @dusty-lynnbristol519
    @dusty-lynnbristol519 Před 2 lety +3

    Such a pleasure to listen to his wisdom, yet terrifying to hear his offered solution of Cyril stepping down.... the feeding frenzy that will ensue will make the Gupta/Zuma State capture look like child's play

    • @mazmkhulisi8979
      @mazmkhulisi8979 Před 2 lety +1

      Maybe not. That's why I'd be keen to hear of the names that Mavuso and his cohort are currently reviewing as potential caretakers if CR were to step aside.

  • @cathylyons4253
    @cathylyons4253 Před 2 lety +1

    Yeah ! !

  • @gautakomane8548
    @gautakomane8548 Před 8 měsíci

    I thought I was the only one who was alarmed by the marginalization of non-black in the cabinet

  • @freddymatlala8801
    @freddymatlala8801 Před 2 lety +3

    these old man is dellusional

    • @redpilled9595
      @redpilled9595 Před 2 lety

      Your texting makes you look like the delusional one Freddy.

  • @bonganimasuku871
    @bonganimasuku871 Před 2 lety +3

    A bomber will all ways be a bomber so disappointed. when its was Zuma no diplomacy and in this case he sounded like he was eating hot potatoes.

  • @thabo3866
    @thabo3866 Před 2 lety +3

    looks like Morgan Freeman

  • @raydups4068
    @raydups4068 Před 2 lety +6

    Everything is talk talk talk...no action..no wonder SA and Africa is 4th world, corrupt and dying...

    • @vlermuis2416
      @vlermuis2416 Před 2 lety

      Agreed... good interview and very sincere.... but hearing all those freedom fighting stories and the wonderful learning experience had with the dear Soviets... 60yrs ago, means that it's probably too late to turn the ship around. Too many ppl, too much crime, too little $$$$.

    • @tonitappous2422
      @tonitappous2422 Před 2 lety +1

      @ Ray Dups If you want action, see inspiring BizNews interview with Mayor Chris Pappas ( 30, fluent in isiZulu) of uMngeni Municipality. The interviewer is Alec Hogg - CZcams.

  • @DokoloCity
    @DokoloCity Před 2 lety

    interesting

  • @mashudumaxwellmbuwe7
    @mashudumaxwellmbuwe7 Před 2 lety

    What wrong has he done to deserve stepping down?

  • @peterzinn9070
    @peterzinn9070 Před 2 lety +4

    Lost faith in the ANC
    No shit Sherlock. 👎🏿👣

  • @carolmcgaghey6112
    @carolmcgaghey6112 Před rokem

    Why dont u have a chat with The owner of the world. God Almighty... CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH. Ramaphosa is in GODS hands. HE has given him lot of chances to. Change... He has refused.. His judgement is death... Why dont u listen to Gods prophets and pick up the truth and reality of what is going to happen to the anc. You educated so called only listen to your own voices. Listen to Father God and get the realities and truth for a change