I make an alignment mark on the gutter and the fascia near the center ladder allowing for any run by at the ends. That way you don’t have to go down and eyeball check it and maybe shift it.
I'm not a gutter installer, but I've done lots of fine granite work, and now I'd like to transition into gutter installation. You don't have to tack the middle of the gutter two times if you have made a mark on the facia where your ladder is and marked the gutter at the same distance, then you can match those two lines and don't have to go down to check if the gutter is aligned on both ends and unscrewing to aligning the ends... Otherwise, I'm getting great value from your videos. Thank you very much!
Yes I'd like to see how to install a gutter in a very steep roof, and how do you tell the customer the amount of water each profile can hold. Thanks man.
Just started getting into gutters and have been watching your videos for about a week, came back to the more basic stuff you made and saw this video. Was super surprised when u mentioned your from Montana! That’s where I’m from too! Where in Montana are you located?
Not to bad of a install / I'm a Licenced Professional and I will always tell everone to install your gutter UNDER the drip edge, just do it right the first time / also not sure what State it's in / but if it snows where the gutters are the gutters on a metal roof should be installed a bit lower so the sliding snow will not take off your gutters / the snow that slides off a metal roof is hundreds if not thousands of pounds and if the gutters are to high the snow WILL rip the gutters off. All and all / not to bad.
Iv found that the ladder wall brackets they sell at lowest helps when you need to hang gutter by your self ill screw how many I think I'll need then set the gutter in them an take them off as I get close to them
Just started my own business. Everything is going great. Just some minor things I need to work out that will come with more experience. How about a video how you go about installing around or over electrical or cable wires on the fascia. Like for a satellite dish or older homes with electric poles extending upward.
One thing I have learned about ALL of us Gutter Pros is that we all have our ways in installing any part of any job / and most work / let's all of us just keep an open mind to when it come to a curtain way to install anything / because there is NO one way to install anything / we all have our speceial ways to install / and I'm glad I can install better than I can spell. Where is spell check on this ?
Can you slope a one piece gutter towards the middle to place the downspout in the middle of the house.? Are there any videos on how to slope a gutter towards the middle.?
Mark the gutter at the half way point and it will be balanced. On K-style roll the gutter towards the face the bends will add rigidity less likely to roll on you. The back of that gutter should be sealed the wayer may roll back and get behind the gutter may rot out the fascia.
What would you use as wedges between gutter and wood facia to prevent sagging gutter? Tip for those diy guys use clamps 2 if them 1 on each side for long gutters.
Is it better to hang the gutter lower so that if you extended the pitch of the roof with an imaginary line it would be just above the top of the gutter? I have seen a couple people say that sliding snow and ice can rip a gutter off so I was curious on your thoughts.
On a metal roof, ice can build up and slide down with a lot of force, there are L brackets called sno-brakes that stop the ice and snow from crashing. If you hang the gutter low the ice will miss it, but land on your car...or your head. get snow brakes if you have a metal roof. This old house should know all roofs are not the same pitch...hang one low on an A frame lol.
One guy can easily handle a 40-45 ft run, unless it’s windy then I wouldn’t chance handling a 40 ft run solo. What do you do when you have a 70-80 ft run?
Great video! Loved all the tips. Do you have one on how to bring two down spouts together into one, like a V joint? Also I need to have an A-B elbow, but can only find vinyl ones. Can you convert a metal A or B elbow into an A-B elbow?
Can anyone tell me why you are not extending the end of the gutter to the very outside edge of the roofing drip edge? They are short on my house as well and I'm getting tired of the rain dripping off of the corners, gradually digging a hole near the foundation. I've been cursing whoever installed it since it seems to me that you should have the gutters catching everything that comes off the roof from end to end. My roof is a typical gable roof with asphalt shingles - not one of these metal roofs.
You’re not supposed to level a gutter you want a slight drop to the downspout so water will flow to it. A good rule of thumb is for every ten ft. You drop it a half inch.
Josh, is snow sliding down the metal roof and hitting your gutter a concern in your area? Seems like the high end of this gutter would catch sliding roof snow and possibly get pulled loose or bent and lose it's slope. one limitation is not much fascia to play with.
Dude, how about screwing a couple of pieces of wood on the underside of that fascia to set your gutter on to (temporarily), then you can have both hands free to make adjustments? thats what I'm about to do hanging a 40 footer.
I usually preinstall all of my hangars first, if you keep them under 2' apart they will keep the gutter from twisting, I have hung 60' by myself that way, I have seen someone hang 90' by themselves like that. I also like to get shelving hangers and put those on the fascia first and I can sit my gutter on it and set it where I want it from the beginning
Man I've been doing gutters for 15 plus years. I would give someone a $100 brown bill and a 24 pack if I saw someone put up a 90' gutter up solo ..... not a chance! I would love to see that if it's possible
Do you do pipe installs as well? Are you able to make an video talking about how would you measure the lengths needed when considering the length of downspout and elbows? Thank you.
For 2x3 measure from wall to middle of hole then subtract 6in. 8.5 for 3x4s. Mark the top of the crimp on the backside elbow of the offset, measure to grade and subtract 1 ft. That gives you about 3 inches off the ground. Enough to weed eat or put a splash block.
If you go to the 8:30 mark, you will see an electricity pole with two transformers behind the installer, and the lines are oriented in an manner that they would run exactly where the bird landed. Great observation of the bird and it seeming to stop in midflight.
It's the metal that is installed under the roof / when it rains real hard the water will work it's way under the roof lip and go back toward the home / the water will hit the drip (or metal) than drip straight down and not go under your roof or behind the wood on your home.
@@maryellis3661 I'm sorry that I typed something that you did not like . not sure what it was / I looked over what I said / could you help me in letting me know what I said that you did not like / I do my best to be real nice when I'm on line / Thanks
That’s got to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard yet in a comment. How the hell are the tabs going to fold up and close when you have a screw from the elbow into the tab. And for your cheap remark look up how much a outlet punch cost is. A tool designed specifically for that purpose.
The downspout punch has been used for over 50 years and is still used to this day by most Professionals / it works great / the tabs do not break nor does much get caught on them and thay do not fold up ( EVER ) / if you install everyday like I do / it's a much faster way to go and you do not have to buy outlet cups
Real installers use a rectangular punch with a rectangular outlet, using the folding tabs doesn't make them fold in but the gutter will end up tearing if you have a clog in the downspout then live in an area it freezes. Those tabs do rip often, use the rectangular punch with an outlet, better seal.
Just what I needed! Thank you
thanks for the video; after watching I hung a 44' run of 6" gutter solo; no problems
Well done!! Glad we could help
I make an alignment mark on the gutter and the fascia near the center ladder allowing for any run by at the ends. That way you don’t have to go down and eyeball check it and maybe shift it.
I'm not a gutter installer, but I've done lots of fine granite work, and now I'd like to transition into gutter installation. You don't have to tack the middle of the gutter two times if you have made a mark on the facia where your ladder is and marked the gutter at the same distance, then you can match those two lines and don't have to go down to check if the gutter is aligned on both ends and unscrewing to aligning the ends... Otherwise, I'm getting great value from your videos. Thank you very much!
I really like your videos man, they are very informative and give me confidence in what I'm doing. Thanks 👍
So glad to hear it!! Any video topics you want to see in the near future?
Yes I'd like to see how to install a gutter in a very steep roof, and how do you tell the customer the amount of water each profile can hold. Thanks man.
@@bigtexguttersllc Awesome! thank you for the input, putting those on our video list!
Terrific. Great pointers for a do it yourselfer
Nice work as always
Just started getting into gutters and have been watching your videos for about a week, came back to the more basic stuff you made and saw this video. Was super surprised when u mentioned your from Montana! That’s where I’m from too! Where in Montana are you located?
We primarily install in the Bozeman area!
I’ve hung a 60’ by myself, but that was going into a mitre 10’ off the ground. 70’ by urself, very impressive bro, good job!
Not to bad of a install / I'm a Licenced Professional and I will always tell everone to install your gutter UNDER the drip edge, just do it right the first time / also not sure what State it's in / but if it snows where the gutters are the gutters on a metal roof should be installed a bit lower so the sliding snow will not take off your gutters / the snow that slides off a metal roof is hundreds if not thousands of pounds and if the gutters are to high the snow WILL rip the gutters off. All and all / not to bad.
Well said .
Great point
Great video. Well done. Thank you.
Iv found that the ladder wall brackets they sell at lowest helps when you need to hang gutter by your self ill screw how many I think I'll need then set the gutter in them an take them off as I get close to them
This is a great idea thanks!
Like a Boss!
Good job thanks for informing us on new projects thanks
You should discuss proper pitch for drainage.
Where do I find that punch
What does it mean to "butt one of the ends?" It's a pretty crucial step.
Just started my own business. Everything is going great. Just some minor things I need to work out that will come with more experience. How about a video how you go about installing around or over electrical or cable wires on the fascia. Like for a satellite dish or older homes with electric poles extending upward.
Legally you’re supposed to tell the owner to wrap them
Great content man! Please keep it up.
Appreciate it! More videos on the way
One thing I have learned about ALL of us Gutter Pros is that we all have our ways in installing any part of any job / and most work / let's all of us just keep an open mind to when it come to a curtain way to install anything / because there is NO one way to install anything / we all have our speceial ways to install / and I'm glad I can install better than I can spell. Where is spell check on this ?
What do you mean when you say you "butted" the left end of the gutter?
Can you slope a one piece gutter towards the middle to place the downspout in the middle of the house.? Are there any videos on how to slope a gutter towards the middle.?
Well done. I have to hang mine behind the drip edge. Any tips on feeding the gutter under the drip edge without it popping out?
It's usually easier and faster just to pull it about a qrtr in. Only a few minutes if you do it from the roof too
What do you do when you’re going over an electrical power wire? Do you put a piece a rubber over it like from a rubber roof EPDM?
What would you recommend for a 5” gutter run 24 ft long that has 2x4 rafter tails 24 on center. I can’t get it to pitch towards the outlet
Put a middle mark in the gutter that way you don’t have to go up and down to check
Mark the gutter at the half way point and it will be balanced.
On K-style roll the gutter towards the face the bends will add rigidity less likely to roll on you.
The back of that gutter should be sealed the wayer may roll back and get behind the gutter may rot out the fascia.
What would you use as wedges between gutter and wood facia to prevent sagging gutter? Tip for those diy guys use clamps 2 if them 1 on each side for long gutters.
They have 30 deg wedges and adjustable bumpers that clip on the back and t straps that hook into the hidden hangers.
Is it better to hang the gutter lower so that if you extended the pitch of the roof with an imaginary line it would be just above the top of the gutter? I have seen a couple people say that sliding snow and ice can rip a gutter off so I was curious on your thoughts.
This Old House would agree
On a metal roof, ice can build up and slide down with a lot of force, there are L brackets called sno-brakes that stop the ice and snow from crashing. If you hang the gutter low the ice will miss it, but land on your car...or your head. get snow brakes if you have a metal roof. This old house should know all roofs are not the same pitch...hang one low on an A frame lol.
In a good rain it'll shoot right over the gutter
@@subxero6265 that's one of the worst installs and advice I've ever seen! Lol
Is there a way to snap a chalk line on fascia to line the bottom of the gutter up to when hanging?
Yes! just a nail on one end and a string line level. just takes a little more time and the chalk can make a mess on a freshly finished facia
I liked the explanation and camera work, but having to use big box store gutter.
Thanks for watching!
you butted one end? not sure what you mean?
If you dont have a 35' Dewalt tape with the hooks on the side put a scew on the end of the roof line.
One guy can easily handle a 40-45 ft run, unless it’s windy then I wouldn’t chance handling a 40 ft run solo. What do you do when you have a 70-80 ft run?
We typically make two separate gutters that butt into each other, add flashing in between so the rain will drop into one or the other.
@@StartARainGutterBusiness so you just butt them and don’t create a seam connecting them?
Great video! Loved all the tips. Do you have one on how to bring two down spouts together into one, like a V joint? Also I need to have an A-B elbow, but can only find vinyl ones. Can you convert a metal A or B elbow into an A-B elbow?
Very easy to do, just slightly crimp it
Take a b and just use your hands to reshape the female side mostly then I insert an elbow so it'll take the 3x4 shape better
How should an installer level a gutter front-to-back (not lengthwise)? Mine are tilted 10 degrees due to wedges the installer used. Thanks!
By hangers with the clip start your screws then hang it
Did you make your own end caps for that gutter?
We do make our own caps for our box gutters!
I was figuring you'd snap a line after using a line level then just install to the snapped line. 🤷
Is normal than my gutters retaining some water like half inch?after rained and staying on it for days.
Any tips tricks or pointers would be much appreciated
Josh, I'm a Licenced Professional / if you ever have any questions look me up on my web site / www.RainGuttersByRock.com / be glad to help
Can anyone tell me why you are not extending the end of the gutter to the very outside edge of the roofing drip edge? They are short on my house as well and I'm getting tired of the rain dripping off of the corners, gradually digging a hole near the foundation. I've been cursing whoever installed it since it seems to me that you should have the gutters catching everything that comes off the roof from end to end. My roof is a typical gable roof with asphalt shingles - not one of these metal roofs.
On houses with shingled roofs we always run out gutters a half inch past the roof on each side! Definitely want to be catching all that water
@@StartARainGutterBusiness THANK YOU~! There's nothing like affirmation. I need new gutters anyway, so it's time to get on it.
You’re not supposed to level a gutter you want a slight drop to the downspout so water will flow to it. A good rule of thumb is for every ten ft. You drop it a half inch.
If u drop your gutter half inch every ten ft and u have a 50 ft run your gutter is gonna look like shit and be way to low
Wrong
Your wrong dude it’s a quarter inch for every 40 ft !!!
I go 3 inches every foot. Drains perfect
@@jonathanspencer8305😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 love it
Great video! How many wedges did you use?
What’s did you use to stop leaks
Can I please message you private so I can learn more about gutters ???? You taught me so much !
I’m about to be able to start my own business and am leaning towards A gutter installation business
did ya end up opening a gutter business? if so how is it goin for ya
what about a laser measurer instead of tape measurer? could avoid floppy tape measurers and could be faster.
They work awesome in certain situations
Very Good, thanks. Question please, what should be the drop for an 8m (30feet) gutter? From one end to the other? 1 inch? , 2 inches????
About 1/4 inch at the most
@@spencerthomas751 Thank you very much
No problem, any other questions just let me know !
Really got freaked out when the bird looks like it landed on thin air at 8:47 mark.
Josh, is snow sliding down the metal roof and hitting your gutter a concern in your area?
Seems like the high end of this gutter would catch sliding roof snow and possibly get pulled loose or bent and lose it's slope.
one limitation is not much fascia to play with.
if it was a issue I'm sure they would of put some snow guard on when they did the roof
Ya especially on metal. Those hangers are weak and cheap so could use better ones and more of them but I like sno-blox personally
Dude, how about screwing a couple of pieces of wood on the underside of that fascia to set your gutter on to (temporarily), then you can have both hands free to make adjustments? thats what I'm about to do hanging a 40 footer.
You're a genious. I'm totally gonna do this. Thanks for the idea!
Not a good idea about screwing wood at the bottom / when you remove the wood your going to have screw holes that will need to be patched up
Even better, use wood woodworking clamps with the bar facing out to allow the gutter to sit on. No need to screw more holes into your fascia.
Been waiting for this one for awhile. What gauge aluminum are you using? I use the flimsy stuff and I feel like at 40ft it would be bending on me.
I usually preinstall all of my hangars first, if you keep them under 2' apart they will keep the gutter from twisting, I have hung 60' by myself that way, I have seen someone hang 90' by themselves like that. I also like to get shelving hangers and put those on the fascia first and I can sit my gutter on it and set it where I want it from the beginning
.032 Gauge. that defiantly makes it more rigid.
Man I've been doing gutters for 15 plus years. I would give someone a $100 brown bill and a 24 pack if I saw someone put up a 90' gutter up solo
..... not a chance! I would love to see that if it's possible
@@janbakker9866 i can do 60ft solo. No way 90ft!
You hang it level or what is the slope?
1/4" drop every 40'
Do you do pipe installs as well? Are you able to make an video talking about how would you measure the lengths needed when considering the length of downspout and elbows? Thank you.
czcams.com/video/UjSJtDSp9JI/video.html
thanks for watching!
For 2x3 measure from wall to middle of hole then subtract 6in. 8.5 for 3x4s. Mark the top of the crimp on the backside elbow of the offset, measure to grade and subtract 1 ft. That gives you about 3 inches off the ground. Enough to weed eat or put a splash block.
Is that .032 thickness?
Yup!
8:45 anyone notice the bird freezing mid flight to the left oh his head? the bird freezes up for at least 5sec
just watched again & its frozen for bout 30 sec??? what the hell is goin on
If you go to the 8:30 mark, you will see an electricity pole with two transformers behind the installer, and the lines are oriented in an manner that they would run exactly where the bird landed. Great observation of the bird and it seeming to stop in midflight.
That gutter is to high, in ME snow and ice will ripped it right off and take the leaf guards with it, if you had leaf guards............
crap i lowered down a 70 ft and was looking for tricks
to rehang
That’s cool but could have just ran half of that gutter then the other half to make it more manageable but respect to you bro
Whats a drip edge?
It's the metal that is installed under the roof / when it rains real hard the water will work it's way under the roof lip and go back toward the home / the water will hit the drip (or metal) than drip straight down and not go under your roof or behind the wood on your home.
@@rock4891 Any videos on one?
@@maryellis3661 Their are videos on just about anything if you type it in / good luck
@@rock4891 no need to be nasty
@@maryellis3661 I'm sorry that I typed something that you did not like . not sure what it was / I looked over what I said / could you help me in letting me know what I said that you did not like / I do my best to be real nice when I'm on line / Thanks
Dude i hung 500' by time you were done
Dang man! You're killing it. by my math your making around 20k a day hanging 500' in 10 min
72’ without a helper 👀
Not going to say it was fun!
Or u could pour water in it
Why not just aak the camera guy to help you?
Touch a power line and you are gone 😅😅😅😅
I hate when the owner makes me work alone. I hope he doesn't see this!
Well at least now you are a bit more prepared for when you have to!
Home owners don't make you work alone / that it up to you
@@rock4891 business owner, not homeowner.
Way to cheap out on creating a proper outlet. In a few months those tabs are going to fold up blocking water flow.
That’s got to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard yet in a comment. How the hell are the tabs going to fold up and close when you have a screw from the elbow into the tab. And for your cheap remark look up how much a outlet punch cost is. A tool designed specifically for that purpose.
The downspout punch has been used for over 50 years and is still used to this day by most Professionals / it works great / the tabs do not break nor does much get caught on them and thay do not fold up ( EVER ) / if you install everyday like I do / it's a much faster way to go and you do not have to buy outlet cups
Real installers use a rectangular punch with a rectangular outlet, using the folding tabs doesn't make them fold in but the gutter will end up tearing if you have a clog in the downspout then live in an area it freezes. Those tabs do rip often, use the rectangular punch with an outlet, better seal.