Sikkim's ethnic groups & their origins
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- Sikkim is one of the least densely populated Indian states, with only 86 persons per square kilometre.There are three ethnic groups in Sikkim- Lepchas, Bhutias and Nepalese. Tina Das tells you more about them in ThePrint's #NorthEastParNazar
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Sikkim is the best place on 🌏
Nice informative video. Tina, I love your style.
Thanks! More videos like these please
The information u hv given about us (limbu) is incorrect. In fact the limbus (then known as tshong people in sikkim) and lepchas are believed to be the original inhabitants of the region ( not later immigrants) . And I would like to request you to make a video about "Lho men tshong " (it is a treaty signed between lepchas bhutias limbus). Thank you ❤
once again with one more video on NE , there is something in ur videos which bring back me to watch , such as your topics , your colorfullness your involvement in Indian culture and your presentation style , u do everything unique
there is magnet in you which attracts seeker like me
You are wrong bhutia are from Tibet as follows to bhutan .they all came from tibet
Finally someone with a brain
Thanks for the information.
Now what will you do with this information?
@@zil1832 timepass
@@snaik9141 mighbt be of value to ccp members...
We have many tribesnot only Nepali in there there are Rai, limboo, Tamang, Mangar, Newar, Sherpa and all....
We all have our own language and culture Nepali is only a Common language actually Nepalis are Chettri and Sharma
You are wrong khas tamang sherpa limbu rai are nepali ethinic, not only khas are nepali . Nepali languages means not the khas language
@@gorkhejokes122 Limbu is not a Nepali ethnic group. Cause Limbu people had their own kingdom called limbuwan which later divided into three nation which is Today's east Nepal, Sikkim and west Bhutan. So basically you cannot say limbus are just Nepali. They existed in Sikkim before lepchas and bhutias .
@@nischalwanem48 Right we Limbus are not Nepali actually nepali is not a tribe nepali is Nationality n we r not from nepal
@@MirakhangLimbu-lx2lv totally. We existed before Nepal, we had our own country
@@MirakhangLimbu-lx2lv dhoti hoos ta
LMFAO Limbu people are indigenous tribe of Sikkim too, Sikkim was part of limbuwan (kirat dynasty)
Proof?
We have Rai, limboo, Tamang, Sherpa language and all Nepali is only a Common language
Hlo rai limbo magar khas tamang sherpa are nepali ethinic
Nepali is a type of Hindi language same
@@jeonsongseo2674 Nepali isnt a Hindi language LMFAOOO.
@@jeonsongseo2674Nepali is pahadi indo Aryan language similar to kumaoni, garwali of uttarakhand. It's developed in west nepal n moved to east nepal. It's much diff from hindi .
@@diyashrestha6804i think he meant that Hindi and Nepali are similar.
The "Lho-Mehn-Tsong-Tsum" the "Bhutia, Lepcha and Limbu" people's are the real inhabitants of Sikkim.
Yess
Tsum =Mangar and limbu
Tsum is a word that means meet.v or unity.n
@@sandeepthapa6316lhoree menree tsongree
The limbus weren't treated right by the bhutias/namgyals because limbus were not closely attached to Sikkim history and politics.
They were more so closer to Limbuwan and the namgyals took over Limbuwan and Gorkharajya Nepal also took over Limbuwan.
Limbus were definitely there before Bhutias or Tibatiyaa but they were more so a minority compared to the Lepchas. Lepchas populated Sikkim by a vast demographic difference.
Lepchas and Limbus were close because Limbuwan and Lepchaland was closer to each other and shared boundary and Limbus share much with Lepcha given the script is also similar to Lepcha because they both share historical ties in the distant past due to interboundary relation at West Sikkim. Not all Sikkim. Namgyals used Lepcha language more so than Limbu yakthung bhasa because it was fairly common and used. Darjeeling deed of grant wasn't written in limbu.( It was in hindustandi and Lepcha because British India supported hindustani and it's history of British Raj starts with Bengal and Hindu states and also included southeast Asia as Burma and Thailand.) This shows bhutias namgyals used lepchas to make a stand that showed legitimate closeness with aboriginal indigenous Lepchas.
This wasn't because limbus didn't agree with Sikkim rule and defied the namgyals and most limbus chose to side with Nepal Gorkharajya this was mostly because Lepchas inhabited Sikkim and were the majority and Bhutias wanted to make Lepchas happy so they could take over the people over their command and make the Dynasty easier to control it's majority Lepcha subjects. You can see even in documentary of Satyajit Ray the Buddha statue is written in Lepcha script below the statue of sakyamuni.
Limbu yakthung do have a history of Sikkim but it's more with Sikkim taking over Limbuwan and taking control of the minority population of Limbu who had close ties with Lepchas in West Sikkim.
And yes the limbus were there before bhootiyas came from Tibet.
Hello mam,
Well thank you for covering my State in Print and ypu are partially correct. But kindly check facts and selection of information may be not so politically correct
Insufficient information. I feel sorry. Do some more research with references. In fact limbu Or limboo of Sikkim had played vital role since from the time immemorial till now but you have skipped which will misguide the viewers.
Helo ma'am
Khay Bumsa 1642 and fifth generation of guru Tashi a princess of minyak House who came to Sikkim from ' Kham'' district of Tibet
So, which one is the correct
Kham'' district is it from Bhutan or Tibet? Which one is the origin of Bhutias Tibet or Bhutan? I'm curious na? Could you explain more in details
It's kham from Tibet, there is no place in Bhutan known as kham . The bhutias are also known as "gyagar khampas" meaning khampas who live in gyagar(India)
Minyak is a region of Kham which is in Tibet, Minyakpa one of the 4 main clans of Sherpas originated in Kham.
Kham is in tibet….the reporter ks amateur…..anyway bhutan is also tibetic people so have it ur way
Your reporting is not only incomplete but you need more study about the Sikkim & its history of aboriginals. Informations found in Google is not sufficient ma'am.
Shut up
what language do lepcha speak ??!!
Lepcha language
Scripts: mun-sulong
Family:tibeto-burman
The lecpha language is almost dead.
My great grandmother was Sikkimese but she passed at 31 and I sadly don't know anything about her ethnic group and culture. I hope I can learn more though.
I would like to correct her statement
Bhutias are from kham province
But kham province is not in Bhutan but tibet and the monarchy and the nobles of sikkim were of bhutia tribe
0:57 Correction:Dzongu and Dikchu is in North sikkim not East❤
Dikchu also east Sikkim
U r wrong limboo n lepchas r the citizens of sikkim bhutias r from Bhutan n nepalis r from nepal
not bhutan we are from tibet hat
Bhutia are Tibetans
With respect to some gaps in the information given ..some corrections:
Also- NOTE- this was originally a reply given to some other person (by me ofcourse 😅). If my words sound a bit harsh - due apologies. Was merely stating the facts as-is.
Anyways here it is:-
Firstly- Tribals/ethnic lines cannot be difined by borders- There are many Gorkhali Tribes like Magar Rais and Limbus( who along with Lepchas are considered one of the autochthons of Sikkim although not highlighted much due to Political reasons) if you want proof of it please visit western Sikkim and see what tribal language they speak besides Bhutia and Lepcha. On the opposite side there are many Lepchas and Bhutias and Lepchas living in Eastern Nepal in the region Known as Limbuwan and are considered one of the ethnic groups of Nepal.
This is just like how you find Khasi Garo Kachari , Mizo, Manipuri, Tripuri some Burmese tribes and many other people form Northeast India inhabit the northeast , east and south-eastern regions of Bangladesh. Naturally the are considered natives of that country too.
A better example would be -Punjabis, Gujjars, Sindhis, Jatts etc inhabiting Pakistan-India...but this is better understood, well, because- Partition.🤷🏻♂️
Again let me stress- ethnic lines cannot be difined by national borders. That's why y9u have more Azerbaijanis living in Iran than on Azerbaijan itself 🤷🏻♂️
Secondly- Along with the above mentioned Gorkhali tribes, there were many others who settled( giving a soldier land in the conquered areas was the norm then-"jagir" understandably) here during the Sikkim- Gorkha wars, were half of Sikkim was taken and ruled by the Gorkha kingdom that is until the British intervened.
Thirdly- It is true many were brought by British but a more practical reason was to get them some good doh/moola/taka/Paisa/rupaiyah/ "tax-revenue".
The Bhutia- Lepcha ruling class ( The Limbus were slowly ousted from the ruling class- because- Non- acceptance of Buddhism and even those who converted to Buddhism had converted back to their animistic religion- "Yumiasm",
This was possible because of a Limbu reformer- preist with the name of "Srizonga/Sirijunga Te-ongsi - Meaning Srizonga the reincarnated" . This got the moks were converting the Limbus so pissed that they complained to the "Choyal" who then ordered his murder.
😅This led (naturally) to a limbu rebellion which was brutally suppressed along with Limbu language and traditions there was second such uprising later on which was again suppressed- brutally)
Anyways coming back to the above issue- the Bhutia-Lepcha elite were hesitant but seeing the increase in revenue (with the tilling of the land- increased labour force) they didn't complain much later 🤷🏻♂️.
Thirdly- There's a fort called "Magarjung" below Sukhia in Darjeeling region which in Tibetan/Bhutia or any Tibetic language translates to Magar(Gorkhali tribe)- Fort. (Go figure- also a lesson - history didn't start in 1600's) If you need help - check Magar- Bhutia wars
Lastly- the ethnic groups defined here are atleast to my understanding more for ethnographic purposes as most of the people group described above (excepting some) frequently intermarry. Let me give you and example- i have cousins who are Rai,Newar, Tamang,Lepcha, Bhutia, Gurung, Sunwar, Sherpa, Magar, Chettri etc all across the Nepali (ethnic spectrum) and this is not a new thing- its been happening since "dadaji ka time sae" also - caveat- not form Sikkim- but same ethnic group- so🤷🏻♂️
I admire your understanding of the "history of Sikkim/Su-him/Su-khim" but I'd suggest a deeper understanding of history both in terms of Chronology & Complexity".
I hope I have been able to help in your understanding of the subject. Do forgive for any mistakes made while writing 🙂
There are gorkha magar and just magaric people. Its just reductive to call thapa and magar peoples as gorkha. Just political alliances.
Lepchas immigrated to ilam and also coined the place name because they fled to present day nepal because they were persecuted. The history of lepchas in Bhutan is clear. They are indigenous to western bhutan prior to ngalop invasion because the drukpas cant tell when the lepchas inhabited bhutan clearly for this reason solely its not that ambiguos as well as after bhutanese invaded sikkim and took lepcha slaves to western bhutan in samtsi as in this way they were also immigrated. Its semi ambiguos in bhutan.
Western sikkim history is unclear on thapa population and they havent been marked as indigenous. Though thapa magaric peoples have history in sikkim the speculation is strong as the lepchas in bhutan or nepal. Thapa population in sikkim is ambiguos and no origin story that has proper sikkim of thapa magaric origin story. Whereas their homeland in nepal is clearly indicated politically as well as culturally geographically prior to any invasions and upheavals. Needs more study as to magar people homeland and origins.
To group limbu rai thapa tribes as gorkhali is a misnomer. If its not -gorkhali tribes is a political term that has its history in nepali indigenous population who lost their war with gorkha forces and gave in to assimilate and forge a new identity that was created shaped within nepal around the kathmandu valley and the subjugated forces. Gorkha identity is of nepal and not of Sikkim. It has no origin in native homegrown Sikkimese politics or cultural geographical identity. Most gorkha history and culture and identification is found in nepal. While its true that gorkha people from nepal have a history in sikkim and darjeeling. There is no clear consensus on why rai limbu mahar and thapa people be grouped as gorkhali tribes. Thats only well recieved in nepal. Further these tribes have identified more so as Sikkimese and have not identified with Gorkha ethnicity. Darjeeling people just consifered themselves as hill people and the history of gorkha identity is a new concept that evolved during bengali rule in darjeeling in politics. Although 89% percent population is directly descendended from nepal. The diverse markets and british rule in darjeeling have them just be called as darjeeling people and have assimilated well during british rule.
Morevor those who had a distaste for gorkha rule in nepal thr indigenous people of nepls as rai kiranti magar thapa limbu population arrived to sikkim and british darjeeling keeping intact their religion culture identity as rai kiranti magar gurung and not as gorkha. They couldnt foget how they lost their homeland in present day nepal and this headstrong population have somewhat preserved their identity by removing any gorkha influence and possibility of eroding their native culture ina distant foreign land safe from gorkha conquests but that too changed but still hold on to their diverse identities
Sir u forgot the part where Sikkim Limbu fought for Sikkim against converted Hindu Subba Limboo. Y would they do so against their own brothers. If Limboo were so oppressed then y would they be patriotic y did they fought for Sikkim.
Secondly Bhutia n Lepcha history dates back before 12th century .
In 12000ad Bhakti Khalji tried to pass through Siliguri nathula path to invaded Tibet to Destroy Buddhism.
He was chased out by the inhabitants of Chumbi valley which was a part of original Sikkim N that places is indigenous to Bhutia n Lepchas is time immemorial.
Sir u seems to know lot about Sikkim History please dnt cherry pick parts to portray sm communities in negative light.
Inorder to maintain law n order , yes sm strich action must have taken place. But what u have painted here is not the real full History of Sikkim .
Before manking vedio u must take correct information otherwise u r providing wrong information
Shut up. Study history boka
MF Gurkhas are Aryan or Mongoloids. No one has sacrifices more than us Gorkhas still Indian call us immigrants. We Gorkhas should pick up arms.
we gorkha 🤔who maked by your father prithive narayan shaha to indian peoples? 😂
Jai Nepal. We will take Sikkim back again 🇳🇵
Limboo doesn't comes under Nepali Community. Limboo itself is a primitive community of Sikkim.
History is incomplete without Limboo community ( Lho Men Tshong).
Don't make me laugh chooo😅😅😅
According to you tamang, gurung, mangar and rai not nepali Also. Com on dude
@@akaziaku1762 limbus came under the influences of nepali/gorkhali later on. Ancestral Limbu or yakthung, didn't even know the concept or word called as gorkhali or nepali. They identified themselves as yakthung and spoke in their own language, it is after the arrival of Gorkha or Khas nepalis, the limbus were heavily influenced by the latter arrivals. Today less than half of yakthung(limbu) population can speak in their own language, it is slowly getting extinct and may probably get extinct because it's spoken by not many families. Today they identify as nepali but history is proof of the kingdom of yakthung people called as limbuwan which was attacked by gorkhas and the gorkha king took over them, the war ended after the defeat of limbuwan with the treaty that limbuwan would come under the control of gorkha rajya.
Also don't forget after the conquest of limbuwan, the gorkha kingdom came after sikkim. If Britishers hadn't arrived and intervened, bhutia and lepchas would have had the same fate as limbus. Who knows, after sikkim, they might be planning to take over bhutan as well without British interference.
But their traditional attire and culture are all similar to nepali..nepali kiratis
@@Yudendenzongpa I guess those came from the nepali or South Asian influence
Your video on sikkim and its history is incorrect. Please do some research before you make videos. if not only make videos for north Indian history and culture in which your media is good. Unnecessary misinformation.
Dzongu is in North Sikkim not in East Sikkim.
How about the mangars??
The Magar caste is an ethnic group native to Nepal. If you are referring to the Mangar/Magar community in Sikkim and Darjeeling, they are migrants, similar to other castes such as Rai, Limbu, Tamang. The Magar community has a significant history in Nepal, being the 3rd most populated caste in the country.
@@abinaya_punLimbu didn't migrated to sikkim ? Rectify your sentence.. even west and south Sikkim was part of limbuwan which was lost by lho men Tsong treaty by 1663A.D . Magar arrived in limbuwan and Sikkim region in early 16 century during Sen period just before bhutia.
MAngar ko itihas Nepal ma cha. Shristi ko jaga ko culture ko sanskriti ko. Nepal ma thapa haru ajhai birseko tshaina afno ancestral history
Hmm.. if so then everyone was migrated there.. just like that
@@akaziaku1762 magarat bahra magarat is homeland of thapa mongars. How dare u say thapas emigrated when they were born there as natives. Why do you want to say thapas don't have a cultural homeland? It is bahra and athara magarat in Nepal. U dare speak about Mongar history as fake
More information please. This is too basic.
Fun fact:Sikhim(sukhim ) itself named after a limbu words su (new ) him (Ghar)
Honestly wanna recall about lho men tsong treaty
Before this treaty it was apart of limbuwan
Dzongu was inhabited by limbus. Lepchas came from Nepal
Our nepali language should be banned in dhotilands😤
Inhabitant of Nepal is called Nepali, inhabitant of India is called Indian like wise limbus who live in Nepal is Nepali and who live in India is called Indian.
Dzungu is in north Sikkim. Braha mins and Chettris also reside here.
U need more research before posting video !!
Cause lots outisde people get to knowledge through ur video
Its ur Responsibilitiy before posting!!
Oh Bhabi ji did you visit sikkim before making this video???
Yes mf
Pls do it in english.
It is apparently deployed for internal propaganda to Sikkim people and Hindu imperialists.
If it is in English, it would be almost like Harvey Weinstein confessing his sex crimes in public. Then everyone around the world would know what Harvey Weinstein has done and how many women he has inflicted sex crimes on. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly
Please do in English
Proud to be lepcha
Lepcha bhutia are more in nepal than sikkim they love to live in north west from Kathmandu
Jai Gorkha Jai Nepal 🇳🇵
You are so 🔥🔥🔥
Please research in dept. limbu was before than bhutia .limbu been living in Eastern himalayan region for ages before modern history of sikim start along with lepcha .Bhutia arrived in 16 century from north after namgyal dynasty starting ruling. The half part of sikkim were lied in limbuwan which inlcude south and west sikim (boarder by testa river /knchanjunga region).(Arun river upto testa river).South and west part of limbuwan was lost by lho(bhutia) men(lepcha) Tsong(limbu) tripaty in 1663 A.D. And about 80 percentage of territory of limbuwan is in nepal by gorkha limbuwan salt water treaty 1774 A.D .Now limbuwan area is limited up to Arun river to mechi river. The region of limbuwan was divided between two nation .So limbu of sikkim can't be included in Nepali. Correct this.!After 18 century majority nepali communities arrived in sikkim after gorkha invasion . Please rectify that sikkim composed of 4 community:lepcha ,bhutia ,limboo and Nepali.
Due to political reason intentionally limbu are placed in nepali category in sikkim ,but history doesn't say so.
Sikkim has many tribes. Marwars.Bhojpuri. Maithili. Gujrati. Tamizh, Kannadigans also live in Sikkim. Bengolis and Assamese also live as tribal people in Sikkim. They are same as Rai, Gurung and Tamang people. Thry have lived here since Sikkim Raja times.
😅😅😅
@@abhi4895 marwaris have been living since Sikkim Raja times. They are indigenous and Sikkimese
@@octohex2908 😅😅😅😅😅
All these people need tribal status
Mangar, limbu and lepchas are premitive tribe of sikkim they exist in sikkim before Namgyal dynesty... But history of sikkim has been written only after 1642...
Your video is incomplete 😢
Like ur sentence
Wrong information sab.....please sikkim k history ya nahi jo video may dekha raha hay.
One u mistake here is nepali is not cast it is nationality same as indian. ☝😎
You need to do more serious research on history and people of Sukhim 😂😂 kuch vi 😂
Jai Limbuwan. Sikkim is not ours. We want Limbuwan.
Dear Sister you need to do more extensive research. Native Sikkimese are Lepcha, Limboo (also know as Tsong) then comes Bhutia. Later, Nepali people came.
Fact checked: do more research..
It is better not to make video if u dont know what the fact is .
Do proper academic research before saying anything. This is somehow misleading in some areas
Rai ta mention karna hi bhol Gaye jo bahut matra me hai pawan Chamling ko Rai hai kaise bhul gayi aap 😊
Aap khambuwan me khojo ye Sikkim he uncle
Not well researched lady just did a cursory reading and probably doesn't know much.
Most of the Nepalese of sikkim are Buddhist and kirat, not hindus
I am NEPALI ARYANS from Darjeeling and maximum NEPALI ARYANS had origin in NORTHERN INDIA,so you find NEPALI LANGUAGE SCRIPT is DEVNAGARI and LANGUAGE is similar to SANSKRIT,KUMAONI, HINDI etc and so NEPALI are maximum hindu, actually NEPALI MONGOLOID TRIBES are maximum NATURE WORSHIPPER.
I want to say how can you say that RAI,LIMBU,MANGAR,other KIRATI tribes had migrate from NEPAL.
HALF SIKKIM AND DARJEELING DISTRICT is LIMBUWAN KINGDOM.
KALIMPONG DISTRICT AND HALF SIKKIM IS LEPCHA KINGDOM.
Whole EASTERN NEPAL was under SIKKIM KINGDOM until GORKHA KINGDOM CAPTURED this area.
EASTERN NEPAL AND SIKKIM, DARJEELING, KALIMPONG was inhabitated by same KIRATI PEOPLE like LIMBU, LEPCHA, MANGAR,YAKKHA,SUNUWAR,RAI etc.
Well technically whole eastern Nepal wasn't in Sikkim at all. Only some parts of limbuwan was part of Sikkim in mid 17th century
@@nischalwanem48 Whole LIMBUWAN was SIKKIM KINGDOM.
But later RIVER ARUN to MECHI goes to SEN KINGDOM.
After BHUTAN captured KALIMPONG and DUARS from SIKKIM, LIMBU CHIEF from ARUN to MECHI become a vessel of SEN KINGDOM.
Thus LIMBUWAN divided into two parts.
@@sumitchettri7905 then how you are nepali before the gorkha attack your land?😂😂😂 darjeeling sikkim wasn't part of nepal.
@@lotusman992 Idiot I am saying KIRATI tribes did not migrate from NEPAL to DARJEELING, SIKKIM.
I being KHAS ARYANS,my ancestors had migrate during GORKHA RULE.
@@sumitchettri7905 that's why i am saying indian kirats are not nepali. but, khas aryan u mean your forefather are not gorkhas who ruled your anscastor? u are indian from uttarkhand? same like gorkha rules there and on kirats too.
Bhutia 💕
Edit: pray for sikkim😢
Little knowledge is a dangerous thing. This is totally incorrect maybe you've done your graduation from WhatsApp University. Go and research properly and stop spreading misinformation about our state and culture just for some views and likes.
trade n govt jobs 👍 ... two classic means of changing d demography of a region 😘❤️
80 per Nepali speaking people
0:24 Lephcha,Bhutia,Nepali
Jai Nepal. We will take back Sikkim 🇳🇵
@@octohex2908 what are you talking about?? Just stay a peaceful country with your current borders and play off both india and china
Rai chetri bahun jogi sanyasi kaha gya little knowledge is dangerous don't make this type of CZcams if u dont know plss
Little knowledge is very dangerous sister,clear your facts
Thumbnail on the Top Lepcha Men Women they are My Lt Grand Parent.
I think lepcha and bhutias are same I guess????
@@SurajMaskiRana9646Nope not at all
@@SurajMaskiRana9646bhutia are Tibetans. Tibet had civil war. They came here to loot Sikkim and Limbuwan
Majority of Sikkim are Tibeto-Burman Community , still they speak Khas Nepali language .
Because they all are nepali nepal was kingdom upto tista river so by the combination of all Language nepali langugae ia develooed slowly
Magar rai Limbu are Mongoloids too
Thanks didi iam from sikim
Lol! Who told you lepchas are Mongolian
Is this how you research😂
Where are the Indo Aryan communities like Bahun, Chetry and Dalits
Sikkim me Jo vi he sab nepali he o nepal he
free sikkim
Give back our land
Nepal🇳🇵
Nepali Mongolian indigenous tribes are not hendu, khas hendu Aryan brahaman and chatri are piyor hendu of nepal,
App to miss world ban sakti ho ati sundar
Simping at it's peak 😂😂
U r beautiful miss
😂
😂😂😂
Kham in bhutan?😂
Nepalis flooded Sikkim due to the policy of the British to subjugate the king of Sikkim.
The Nepalis were considered more loyal to the British.
This is how Sikkim ended up with majority Nepali population.
When the king of Sikkim wanted to address this issue in 1975, the large Nepali population of Sikkim engineered a coup with the help of Indian army which led to the illegal merger of Sikkim with India without the consent of the king and the real natives of Sikkim.
Sikkim was forcefully inveded by india
With respect to your writing ..some corrections:
Firstly- Tribals/ethnic lines cannot be difined by borders- There are many Gorkhali Tribes like Magar Rais and Limbus( who along with Lepchas are considered one of the autochthons of Sikkim although not highlighted much due to Political reasons) if you want proof of it please visit western Sikkim and see what tribal language they speak besides Bhutia and Lepcha. On the opposite side there are many Lepchas and Bhutias and Lepchas living in Eastern Nepal in the region Known as Limbuwan and are considered one of the ethnic groups of Nepal.
This is just like how you find Khasi Garo Kachari , Mizo, Manipuri, Tripuri some Burmese tribes and many other people form Northeast India inhabit the northeast , east and south-eastern regions of Bangladesh. Naturally the are considered natives of that country too
A better example would be -Punjabis, Gujjars, Sindhis, Jatts etc inhabiting Pakistan-India...but this is better understood, well, because- Partition.🤷🏻♂️
Again let me stress- ethnic lines cannot be difined by national borders. That's why y9u have more Azerbaijanis living in Iran than on Azerbaijan itself 🤷🏻♂️
Secondly- Along with the above mentioned Gorkhali tribes, there were many others who settled( giving a soldier land in the conquered areas was the norm then-"jagir" understandably) here during the Sikkim- Gorkha wars, were half of Sikkim was taken and ruled by the Gorkha kingdom that is until the British intervened.
Thirdly- It is true many were brought by British but a more practical reason was to get them some good doh/moola/taka/Paisa/rupaiyah/ "tax-revenue".
The Bhutia- Lepcha ruling class ( The Limbus were slowly ousted from the ruling class- because- Non- acceptance of Buddhism and even those who converted to Buddhism had converted back to their animistic religion- "Yumiasm",
This was possible because of a Limbu reformer- preist with the name of "Srizonga/Sirijunga Te-ongsi - Meaning Srizonga the reincarnated" . This got the moks were converting the Limbus so pissed that they complained to the "Choyal" who then ordered his murder. This led (naturally) to a limbu rebellion which was brutally suppressed along with Limbu language and traditions there was second such uprising later on which was again suppressed- brutally)
Anyways coming back to the above issue- the Bhutia-Lepcha elite were hesitant but seeing the increase in revenue (with the tilling of the land- increased labour force) they didn't compain much later 🤷🏻♂️.
Thirdly- There's a fort called "Magarjung" below Sukhia in Darjeeling region which in Tibetan/Bhutia or any Tibetic language translates to Magar(Gorkhali tribe)- Fort. (Go figure- also a lesson - history didn't start in 1600's) If you need help - check Magar- Bhutia wars
Lastly- the ethnic groups defined here are atleast to my understanding more for ethnographic purposes as most of the people group described above (excepting some) frequently intermarry. Let me give you and example- i have cousins who are Rai,Newar, Tamang,Lepcha, Bhutia, Sherpa, Magar, Chettri etc all across the Nepali (ethnic spectrum) and this is not a new thing- its been happening since "dadaji ka time sae" also - caveat- not form Sikkim- but same ethnic group- so🤷🏻♂️
I admire your understanding of the "history of Sikkim/Su-him/Su-khim" but I'd suggest a deeper understanding of history both in terms of Chronology & Complexity".
I hope I have been able to help in your understanding of the subject. Do forgive for any mistakes made while writing 🙂
Nepali tribes were in Sikkim from start of human settlement in east himalaya ( today's east nepal, Sikkim, darjeeling). Called kirat. Nepali is recent term. Non kirati Nepali ( indo aryan, tibbetan) migrated later. But after living in himalaya for centuries as himalayan.. N Nepali had no role in annexation. It's self made history.
@@rajivsarmah8413 Where are the mythological "kirats" today??
The Bhutias and Lepchas, the natives of Sikkim, Bhutan and Darjeeling have nothing in common with the Nepalis. The Nepalis did invade and occupy parts of Sikkim, Uttarakhand, Himachal for few years before the locals took the help of the British to kick out the Nepalis.
Later on the British actively encouraged Nepali migration to Sikkim against the wishes of the King of Sikkim leading to Nepalis outstripping the indigenous Sikkimese. Nepalis tried same tactics in Bhutan for which Bhutan kicked out all Nepalis majority of whom settled in North Bengal.
And from your surname it's clear you are not a Gorkha but a Madhesi whose land was gifted to Nepal by the British for Nepal's help in putting down the sepoy mutiny by sepoys from UP Bihar.
@@agonnoga6100 bhutia r not ab origin of sikkim. Sikkim share same terrain with hills of east nepal not tibbet. it was same limbuwan with today's far east nepal till tibbetan divide limbuwan. They migrated from tibbet in 13 th century n more after formation of sikkim in 1642. The treaty is called lepcha, bhutia( tibbetan), n limboo treaty ( a kirati tribe) . Real native of sikkim r lepcha, limboo n eastern mangar( mangar have three sub tribes). It recorded in even earlier history of Sikkim. N lepcha r more closer to kirat in terms of language, race, custom( except imported buddhism from bhutia).. Even lepcha, limboo script is almost same. N Sikkim itself is a limboo word derived from. Limboo words su khyim. Lepcha used to call the region mayal lyang, limboos called it chungjung. Lepcha called kanchanjangha( modified by bhutia) as kanchenjungha n kirat called it seseylungma historically.. N limboo, khambu( rai title given by gorkha rajpoot king), sunuwar r as much similar as sonowal kachari, bodo, dimasa to each other. So come with who r kirat n debate about this part of himalaya. N lepcha n limboo had co existed from thousand yrs in today's far east nepal, Sikkim, darjeeling.
Flop... Insen
Auro ka pata nahi lekin apki ethnicity culture bhasha sanskar acchey he
Most story of the lepchas said here is a hoax.
-a sikkimese
What rubbish
Its not nepaleses where their it was part of nepal ..once..before it was different kingdom
.say thank to britain..with them it would not be india..thts the fact ..accept it..
Nepal and Bhutan should be part of India as states 🇮🇳
Why?
Beizing wants india as part of chaina......
Dont u worry india is working on greater india. Nepal bhutan bangladesh pakistan and after this. Afghsnistan is also too close for comfort so we will take that too. Dont ya worry son.
Next is burma. Eouldnt sound ridiculous in 3012
Whole Nepal and Bhutan were never a part of any greater India or any empires of India today.