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  • 1996 interview description: Steve Jobs is one of the founders of Apple Computers; and he led the development of the Macintosh computer. In 1985 he founded NeXT Computer. It's mission is to develop customized software for businesses; two of their applications are OPENSTEP and NEXTSTEP. Jobs is also the owner of the computer animation company, Pixar. They've made the first feature-length computer-animated film, "Toy Story," in conjunction with Walt Disney, Inc. Jobs will talk with Terry about the future of computer technology. Jobs has won numerous awards including a National Medal of Technology in 1990.
    This episode was first broadcast on February 22, 1996.
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Komentáře • 210

  • @kevins4222
    @kevins4222 Před 6 měsíci +20

    Dude just predicted Google, e-commerce, SmartTVs, and the end of physical media while I was still on the Oregon Trail trying not to die of dysentery.

  • @AndrewDasilvaPLT
    @AndrewDasilvaPLT Před 11 měsíci +134

    Dude was thinking Post-PC in 1996.

    • @michaelhart2715
      @michaelhart2715 Před 10 měsíci +8

      This is why I take them seriously when I listen to the newest generation of tech leaders talk about the future.

    • @DrFastFury
      @DrFastFury Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@michaelhart2715 it sounds like you stay up to date on current tech leaders. Which three are the most similar to Jobs in your opinion?

    • @michaelhart2715
      @michaelhart2715 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@DrFastFury I’d recommend listening to Mo Gawdat’s book, Scary Smart. Emad Mostaq has some compelling interviews as well. I recommend reading Max Tegmark’s Life 3.0 and maybe look into Peter Diamandis as well.

    • @vicheakeng6894
      @vicheakeng6894 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Patented 1996

    • @Juan_deep
      @Juan_deep Před 6 měsíci

      @@michaelhart2715yo can you answer dude question below you please

  • @shipcommanderlol6577
    @shipcommanderlol6577 Před 11 měsíci +26

    Quality of the audio is so good.

  • @serialMichael07
    @serialMichael07 Před rokem +50

    17:08 - “One of the things I always tried to coach myself on was not being afraid to fail.
    When you have something that doesn’t work out a lot of times people’s reaction is to get very protective about ever wanting to fall on their face again
    and I think that’s a big mistake, because you never achieve what you want without falling on your face a few times in the process of getting there… So..
    I’ve tried to not be afraid to fail and matter fact I failed quite a bit since leaving Apple”
    GOLD

    • @accordchiang7880
      @accordchiang7880 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Thanks a lot for the timestamp and transcript!

  • @uniquegodwin
    @uniquegodwin Před 11 měsíci +22

    1996? Sounds like something from 10 years ago. Can't believe it's that old.

  • @Gabriel-iq6ug
    @Gabriel-iq6ug Před 10 měsíci +6

    Interviewer is so great

  • @techtipsuk
    @techtipsuk Před 11 měsíci +117

    My god this man was insightful. Definitely one of the most influential people of the last century.

    • @mwa1788
      @mwa1788 Před 10 měsíci

      Do you know who created the Internet? ...

    • @aakkosharyph
      @aakkosharyph Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@mwa1788he said “one of”, and it’s definitely true

    • @TheStevenWhiting
      @TheStevenWhiting Před 10 měsíci +2

      Without Wozniak he'd have been a nobody.

    • @aakkosharyph
      @aakkosharyph Před 10 měsíci +13

      @@TheStevenWhiting without Steve, Woz wouldn’t have been anybody either

    • @churblefurbles
      @churblefurbles Před 10 měsíci +3

      Today he'd be dosed on ritalin and ignored.

  • @tvm73836
    @tvm73836 Před 11 měsíci +54

    Oh my God! This is so awesome!! The clarity of thought that Jobs has is astounding. He was so right about most of the things that happened way after he gave this interview. Terry Gross, I should add, is one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard.

  • @user-hr8wv1rv1b
    @user-hr8wv1rv1b Před 10 měsíci +9

    10/10 interview. Hooray for NPR!. 1996....when NPR was enjoyable to listen to..

  • @user-kr5fm6ok7i
    @user-kr5fm6ok7i Před 11 měsíci +32

    I'm always humbled listening to, Steve Jobs. He is pure genius.

    • @TheStevenWhiting
      @TheStevenWhiting Před 10 měsíci +2

      He was never a pure genius. WebObjects went nowhere. He had all the talk but certainly wasn't a genius.

  • @neanda
    @neanda Před 10 měsíci +17

    "other companies hire people to tell them what to do, we hire people so that they can tell us what to do"
    omfg
    this is such an amazing interview. i thought i'd heard/watched all his interviews, but this one tops them all. he's so relaxed because he knows you're not talking bs.
    there's so much coming out of his mind. i gotta roll a joint now.
    thank you to the interviewer, Terry Gross, you're amazing in getting him to really talk his mind.
    i'm gonna have to check out your other interviews,
    i still can't believe that this was '96, mental

    • @joeporter4920
      @joeporter4920 Před 10 měsíci +1

      this is just him in an interview, he's a documented tyrant over his employees

    • @craigmuranaka8016
      @craigmuranaka8016 Před 4 měsíci

      Terry Gross is a wonderful interviewer

    • @strantheman
      @strantheman Před 6 hodinami

      Definitely one of his most repeated quotes in product management circles. Wish more leaders knew how to do that.

  • @sorcererstone3303
    @sorcererstone3303 Před 10 měsíci +18

    This interview is a gem. Gives us a glimpse to the amazing inner thinking & thought processes of Steve Jobs.
    BTW, this interview was done in 1996 by the equally amazing interviewer Terry Gross, Steve Jobs return to Apple in the same year too - judging by the content of this interview. This interview was made before Steve returned to Apple. That explained why he refrained to critique too much about Apple.
    Hats off to Steve Jobs - a true giant.

  • @avenueofabundance
    @avenueofabundance Před 10 měsíci +5

    Thanks so much for posting! Wishing everyone that reads this abundant and prosperous day. YOU ARE ABUNDANT

  • @neanda
    @neanda Před 10 měsíci +7

    this is crazy he was speaking about the web like this in '96. i had just left school and my last pc till then was an Amiga. omg, he's talking about the web like this when i was still going to libraries.
    it's crazy to think that all this was happening and i was too young (in my mind) to see what was happening

  • @mr.daniish
    @mr.daniish Před 10 měsíci +5

    "We were two teenagers who couldn't afford a computer, so we decided to build one" - Legend 🙌

  • @pipp33
    @pipp33 Před 9 měsíci +7

    What an excellent time capsule. So much you can say about his insights at this time, and to think this was just months before Apple bought NeXT and Steve returned to the helm and saved Apple from near extinction. Edit: Right after I typed this Jobs says, in response to do you think Apple is going to fail, “I think with the appropriate leadership that’s not going to happen…but we’ll have to see.” Amazing.

  • @CookieCurls
    @CookieCurls Před 3 měsíci +1

    Everything he mentioned and envisioned came true. It’s spooky watching these old interviews. He was right about almost everything. It just took a few decades to get there.

  • @nattaphonj956
    @nattaphonj956 Před 10 měsíci +7

    whoa. Steve is so ahead of the time

  • @Shriyash_01
    @Shriyash_01 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Dude this is on clutch!!! Thanks so much

  • @ureviews
    @ureviews Před 10 měsíci +7

    Always nice finding a new Steve Jobs recording 🙂

  • @NoreenHoltzen
    @NoreenHoltzen Před 11 měsíci +9

    At 25:00 he talks about the concept of the iPad so ahead of its time and even before returning to Apple, essentially a simplified $300 low price internet access device. Back then screens weren’t ready so he suggested it should connect to the TV but actually he is basically aiming functionally at the iPad already. This matches other references by internal staff at Apple saying that his first goal before the iPhone was the iPad but he wished the phone out first as it suddenly became more urgent.

  • @kb8570
    @kb8570 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you for this interview!

  • @jshepard152
    @jshepard152 Před 11 měsíci +7

    1996....when NPR was enjoyable to listen to.

  • @talentsherpa
    @talentsherpa Před 11 měsíci +5

    This was great! Where's the rest of it? And Thanks😊

  • @petrosbadalyan326
    @petrosbadalyan326 Před rokem +15

    Steve Jobs is forever!

  • @ShortsDoYouKnow
    @ShortsDoYouKnow Před 9 měsíci

    Impressive! Thanks for the video.

  • @neanda
    @neanda Před 10 měsíci +11

    this is amazing, thank you for uploading this 🙏
    btw, the interviewer is very good - she understands the big picture of what SJ is talking about so, because of that, gets him to explain more things so that we can all know. that's how an interview should be.
    this was an amazing interview, by both people, just a relaxed conversation with no one trying to big themselves up.
    genuine laughter is so nice to hear 💯❤ (talking about Terry, nice laugh)

    • @4ourty5ive
      @4ourty5ive Před 10 měsíci +1

      Terry was great on fresh air. A great host to each guest

  • @kangxi1826
    @kangxi1826 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The pod before the pod. Love it!

  • @invaderg3332
    @invaderg3332 Před 11 měsíci +14

    He was so excited about the web. I became nonchalant about the web starting at 2013. I wonder how excited he'd been about AI, chatgpt, midjourney, and others.
    My mother was very inquisitive about the internet when I was a teen, and it was very magical how curious she was, like at age 50 or whatever she was , and still looking at the internet with intense curiosity.

    • @manamsetty2664
      @manamsetty2664 Před 11 měsíci +1

      He would have made these so much awesome 😎 he makes me work hard, just an awesome guy I wonder how can I get his type of clarity and mindset

  • @maxdenby2166
    @maxdenby2166 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Incredible. Such clarity about the future.

  • @abhishek1u
    @abhishek1u Před 9 měsíci

    your the best!!! thx!!!

  • @eduard5524
    @eduard5524 Před 12 dny

    He had a fresh view on technology, great to listen still today, smart.

  • @craigmuranaka8016
    @craigmuranaka8016 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Sure is great to hear his voice and hear his thoughts. Outside of the Mac all his great ideas and work were still ahead of him at the time of this interview. I wish he would have had more time to give us his gifts ❤🙏🙏🙏

  • @boo5274
    @boo5274 Před 11 měsíci +7

    As someone who develops dynamic websites, This is incredibly interesting to listen to. Dynamic web is still the industry standard to this day, with people trying to make it more and more dynamic.

  • @cristiankilon1706
    @cristiankilon1706 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I like almost any content you create for us

  • @caffeinum
    @caffeinum Před 11 měsíci +4

    I was 1 years old at that time. I wish I could have lived through that time and be a builder there

  • @socialmediahandler
    @socialmediahandler Před 9 měsíci

    I really do appreciate.. Thanks a lot..

  • @PanicAttackRecovery
    @PanicAttackRecovery Před 11 měsíci +5

    Great interview. Very interesting to go back to 1996 and listen to these wise answers. Apple TV among other things obviously contemplated by Steve then.

    • @spol
      @spol Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah the Apple TV callout was pretty cool!

  • @KoushikVaraghur
    @KoushikVaraghur Před 10 měsíci +5

    Fantastic interview. The lady who interviewed also is an excellent one

  • @brianboyle2681
    @brianboyle2681 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I think the late 80s/Early to mid 90s was when he did his most interesting work. Not most successful monetarily, but when I would have most like to have worked/had conversations with him. This is as close as we can get!

    • @spol
      @spol Před 2 měsíci

      Strange take. Clearly, iPhone was his magnum opus. How could you say otherwise?

  • @soonhauchua2296
    @soonhauchua2296 Před 11 měsíci +17

    Terry, the interviewer, was so good at asking questions. Several of what Steve talked about, including post-PCs and how Apple worked, were very interestingly being discussed again in the D8 conference back in 2010. I see this interview as a Part 1 for that, 14 years apart. czcams.com/video/i5f8bqYYwps/video.html

  • @VaibhavKharche13
    @VaibhavKharche13 Před 9 měsíci +1

    thanks broooo biiig thx

  • @mohmahedhamza5093
    @mohmahedhamza5093 Před 8 měsíci

    thanks for sharing the details of the hack. working perfectly fine with me

  • @fpvvsford
    @fpvvsford Před 10 měsíci +1

    I learnt some things about the internet from this interview. And the interview was pre modern internet.

  • @MrChaluliss
    @MrChaluliss Před 11 měsíci +6

    HTML being called "arcane" is wild. Was it different back then? These days its one of the easiest programming languages to wrap your head around I feel.

    • @gnargnargnar
      @gnargnargnar Před 11 měsíci +5

      Jobs always thought from the perspective of the end user. It's in Apple's DNA. From that perspective, it's definitely arcane.

    • @Hexspa
      @Hexspa Před 7 měsíci

      Arcane in the sense that relatively few people knew it. The language was released the same year CERN put WWW tech in public domain: 1993. For a sense of scale, 18 million homes had internet capability but only 3% (~540k) of those had used it in 1995 [1] and there were only 23,500 websites (only about one website per 23 surfers!) [2].
      Sources: [1] Pew Research, World Wide Web Timeline, 2014. [2] Science + Media Museum, A Short History of the Internet.

  • @GR_BackingTracks
    @GR_BackingTracks Před 10 měsíci +2

    Early Object-Oriented Programming days... When only businesses had cable internet access, and residents had dialup.

  • @Zakariah1971
    @Zakariah1971 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Release all unreleased Steve Jobs interviews now!

  • @HikikomoriDev
    @HikikomoriDev Před rokem +12

    3:53 and then went backwards again with big middle man like eBay and Amazon. Nothing good came from this. The middle man wasn't eliminated, it was enhanced.

    • @goldbrick2563
      @goldbrick2563 Před rokem

      Only if businesses submit to amazon...they dont have to sell on amazon

    • @gcg8187
      @gcg8187 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Lots of good obviously came from it, why be negative when you can be logical?

  • @madanhamuchineuta3157
    @madanhamuchineuta3157 Před 9 měsíci

    Steve’s reaction on dynamic pages is the same as my reaction when I discovered php. The fact that everyone can get a personalized version of html bro 🤯

  • @tesfaiembaye7138
    @tesfaiembaye7138 Před 10 měsíci +1

    #yourtimeislimited "Your time is limited; I love this phrase by Steve Jobs because it serves as a reminder that our lives are finite and time is a valuable resource that should be used wisely. It's often associated with encouraging people to prioritize their goals, aspirations, and meaningful experiences. Time cannot be regained once it's gone, making this concept a motivating factor for individuals to make the most of their lives and to focus on what truly matters to them."

  • @leoSaunders
    @leoSaunders Před 11 měsíci +3

    15:25 lol that's where the one-button mouse comes from

  • @miguelmontes5242
    @miguelmontes5242 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Jobs was such a thoughtful person. Sadly that can't be said of most tech companies CEOs of these days. They are just good engineers, which is nothing compare to Jobs geniuses

  • @Cyb3riano
    @Cyb3riano Před 10 měsíci +1

    I miss the 90's

  • @user-kq8rk1vd3u
    @user-kq8rk1vd3u Před 7 měsíci +1

    21:23 this is wisdom

  • @hdyayo
    @hdyayo Před 10 měsíci +1

    this man was ingenuity personified

  • @ethanswartz5161
    @ethanswartz5161 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Crazy to think there was a time where Pixar would have to be introduced as the “company that made Toy Story”

  • @Tntaxolotl
    @Tntaxolotl Před 11 měsíci +3

    Legendary

  • @jackilynpyzocha662
    @jackilynpyzocha662 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I like BASIC programming, "arcane" as it is! TI 99 4A was my first system!

  • @alanvonweltin6820
    @alanvonweltin6820 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Steve makes an interesting observation about 19 minutes in where he says that Apple needs to be 50 to a 100% different from the competition to make buying it worthwhile. I think this says alot to why the Mac never could catch up to the PCs and still today remains below 10% total market share of PCs. I think he is also correct in saying that when he left Apple they were at least 5 years ahead of Microsoft and went ahead to squander that lead by failing to innovate. It is debatable however to question whether or not Apple could have brought their prices down enough and innovated fast enough to actually maintain a lead especially when considering Job's famous hard core approach to keeping the Mac a sealed box. A massive driver for PC growth was endless expandability. Innovation aside, would Steve ever have gotten over the closed mindset?

  • @jamesbyrne9312
    @jamesbyrne9312 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Steven jobs!!

  • @ganesanls8723
    @ganesanls8723 Před 8 měsíci

    Awesome

  • @DigitalNomadOnFIRE
    @DigitalNomadOnFIRE Před 10 měsíci

    The audio sounds great. I guess digital doesn't decay.

  • @SouravKumar-jj6tj
    @SouravKumar-jj6tj Před 9 měsíci

    Excelente muy bien explicado, me funciono al 100

  • @CuriousPerson2206
    @CuriousPerson2206 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Wow he really saw the future

  • @justtestingonce
    @justtestingonce Před 11 měsíci +1

    So he predicted DTC companies in 1996, crazy insight.

  • @snoopywalker1881
    @snoopywalker1881 Před 7 měsíci

    A visionary from the PARC to social media,

  • @n.a.n.a2261
    @n.a.n.a2261 Před 11 měsíci +2

    0:48 He has a cute voice 🍎💻🖥️📱🍮🎀🐾🦴

  • @Zakariah1971
    @Zakariah1971 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Genius

  • @goldbrick2563
    @goldbrick2563 Před rokem +11

    Yo no one has listened to this...4k views, why did they wait so long to release?

  • @strantheman
    @strantheman Před 7 hodinami

    1996 phrases no one says now:
    World wide web
    Federal Express
    Steven Jobs

  • @vinceandrich4603
    @vinceandrich4603 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Xerox parc was a hub for brilliant engineers

  • @Foxproxy
    @Foxproxy Před 8 měsíci

    God I love this dude

  • @CaptainPlanet007
    @CaptainPlanet007 Před 7 měsíci

    Omg!! He mentioned Amazon and google concept in one interview without mentioning their names..

  • @bukurie6861
    @bukurie6861 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you!Wise man are in our mind a❤lways🌏

  • @charleneaira3996
    @charleneaira3996 Před rokem +3

    Steve Jobs is the best!

  • @AllisonRhine
    @AllisonRhine Před 2 měsíci

    Steve Jobs predicting the future for thirty minutes straight

  • @WorldCollections
    @WorldCollections Před 9 měsíci +1

    Custom-built websites…welcome 2023, where ChatGPT and AI will just do that.

  • @fnordware
    @fnordware Před 7 měsíci

    I miss him.

  • @anilbhosale9138
    @anilbhosale9138 Před 10 měsíci

    this is sick

  • @saskiavanhoutert6081
    @saskiavanhoutert6081 Před 9 měsíci

    Mainframe's the most important in the computertechnology; format machines, matrix mainframe's, computertechnologists are thinking about those how to make them better and more reliable and also with a lower energylevel. I am also thinking about that subject, matter and try to improve them. The glassfibre-cable can make a progress in that prospective.And what about wireless-fire. Kind regards to Steve, Laurene, their children and others of Apple. Saskia van Houtert (Saus)age; nickname, engineer/office-manager.

  • @kurianmathew3299
    @kurianmathew3299 Před 7 měsíci

    I think the title should be "Which made toy story"

  • @lotfullahandishmand4973
    @lotfullahandishmand4973 Před 10 měsíci

    I am reading and when she says now he is head of NeXT, how time moves too fast really.

  • @user-xu1oi7sd5h
    @user-xu1oi7sd5h Před 7 měsíci

    astonishingly everything he said here is our current life.

  • @AmyAmy-er8bp
    @AmyAmy-er8bp Před 8 měsíci

    I grew up with a physicist and she wouldn't eat more than one apple a day. They also found Alan Turing with apple. I ate bags of apples and with each byte they taste better and better.

  • @neanda
    @neanda Před 10 měsíci +1

    🥲this beautiful interview ended way too early. could you please upload the full unedited recording?

  • @leftorright9563
    @leftorright9563 Před 15 dny

    I’m seeking 100k a year since inception into project starting with experimental drugs that were developed in conjunction with the NIH and DOE. Summer of 2010 to 2024. That would be 1.400.000 usd. This is a reasonable compensation.

  • @saskiavanhoutert6081
    @saskiavanhoutert6081 Před 9 měsíci

    The mouse somehow the most important invention for the computer-industry. Without those you can't handle really good, at least that is my experience and consideration. Touchscreens somehow are fun but for designing and type-possibilities you really are related to a mouse. Kind regards, Saskia van Houtert, (Saus)age; nickname, engineer/office-manager.

  • @NoCoverCharge
    @NoCoverCharge Před 11 měsíci +4

    That intro music almost made me hang myself

  • @ylfzo
    @ylfzo Před 11 měsíci

    Prince of bel is missing out the title

  • @fabioleao74
    @fabioleao74 Před 9 měsíci

    Delicious. Something that works.

  • @saskiavanhoutert6081
    @saskiavanhoutert6081 Před 10 měsíci

    My practical experience with Steve Jobs programm's is still cherished and still a exploring possibility for me in the future.
    Steve knows what I am talking about. Kind regards. Saskia van Houtert, engineer/office-manager.
    Date of description: 28-07-2023, time: 17:44.

  • @mwa1788
    @mwa1788 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Though the Internet is way much more important than what Jobs did, most people DO NOT KNOW WHO invented the Internet!!! ...
    It's because Tim Berners-Lee doesn't have an ego like people such as Steve Jobs or Bill Gates ...

  • @RupaKumari-hq4ms
    @RupaKumari-hq4ms Před 9 měsíci

    worked for me on my motorolla

  • @TinLeadHammer
    @TinLeadHammer Před 12 dny

    He was fortunate to see pioneering developments made elsewhere, and smart and relentless in incorporating these inventions into his own products. He is no different in this regard from Bill Gates. Both of them are no different from Thomas Edison, who was known to appropriate others' inventions and make them his own.

  • @Zakariah1971
    @Zakariah1971 Před 11 měsíci

    Like that lisp 😳

  • @CaptainPlanet007
    @CaptainPlanet007 Před 3 měsíci

    Who is the interviewer, what’s her name?

  • @novartesrl
    @novartesrl Před 4 měsíci

    Imagine we had invented a cure for cancer and cured this guy. The incredible things he would be doing today.

    • @1697djh
      @1697djh Před 3 měsíci

      He committed suicide essentially, he didn’t get his cancer treated sooner.

  • @mauricesteiner8168
    @mauricesteiner8168 Před 11 měsíci

    steven jobs

  • @marcb934
    @marcb934 Před 10 měsíci

    Did he just describe ChatGPT ?

  • @CaptainPlanet007
    @CaptainPlanet007 Před 7 měsíci

    Listening to this interview made you think it was taken place last week 2023 but instead took place over 40 years ago.. WOW!

    • @cardinalRG
      @cardinalRG Před 6 měsíci

      The interview was 27 years ago, friend.