@@in_good_name3568 tbh Schwartz is bodyguard of Ceylon, but she also tasked to keep an eye on dokutah so nothing bad happens to Ceylon's benefactor... So her priority will always Ceylon first, dokutah safety comes after Ceylon...
Fun Fact, the target of the previous Platinum who he fell in love with was titled the 'Black Knight,' a former champion of the Kazimierz Major according to Czarny when he and the current Platinum visited an exhibit. The 'Black Knight' whose grave was also visited by V and Kowal before Maria's final match.
The grave was a fake, if not belongs to someone else entirely. The Black Knight got saved by Silverash and he recruited her into his squad. And The Black Knight isn't Shining. You can see her in the full illustration of the Kjerags by the original artist. She's the one with the blonde hair and two enormous horns. You can even see her in the 2nd Anniversary PV when Silverash showed up (left side of the screen).
@@hunt7533 Black Knight isn't Shining, lmao. Shining is a Sarkaz. The Black Knight was Laethanian(idk if right spelling, basically goat peeps like eyja and earthspirit) who was recruited by SilverAsh as one of his bodyguards.
Interesting that you didn't mention that Gravel tells the doctor her real name as a sign of trust. I think this video may have focused a bit more on Platinum than on Gravel.
This could mean that we witnessed the very moment she actually fell for us. Meaning she was a spy/double agent with intent to get close by pretending being lovestruck, but after spending some time at RI, witnessing our talents and care, rewarding her hard work with second promotion and hitting that 200% changed her act into the real thing
BETRAYAAAAAAL~! But seriously, I dig the idea of traitors being among the ranks of Rhodes Island as a part of an even bigger picture that wants the Doctor out of their hair, but the traitors legit end up developing feelings for the Doctor because unlike the bigger picture that sent them there to be a sleeper agent to dispose of him, the Doctor legit cares about them (or at the very least, drives a hard enough bargain to make them prefer being on the Doctor’s side). XP
You need to remember gravel gives us her real name as a sign of trust after her E2 since she's actually a slave knight. Platinum is a bit of the same since she's actually on the run from the armorless union since she really doesn't care about orders and wants freedom tho there is no direct evidence except the small epilogue we had at the end of the nearl event
Between the likes of: ~Empathic Fiend Lord bunny protag ~Explosive chainsaw cat bestie ~Telepathic orbital strike kitten ~Gravity defying Red murder pupper ~Spicy metal-bending God sibling #1 ~Artsy reality-warping God sibling #2 ~"Cthulhu might be my Grandpa" Skadi ~Dr. "I have an Originium Dragon, your argument is invalid." Kal'tsit ...I feel like Doc is pretty safe. Probably. Jokes aside. While the real possibility exists that Gravel/Plat could be double agents, the fact remains that they have both saved my ass so many times that I'll love them both all the same.
@@benjamincooper7160 Yeah lol. You are correct. Red occasionally just decides to ignore the general laws of physics and walk around on the walls/ceiling/etc. Edit: Typo.
I find it amusing that even though we have operator files, sometimes we just don't know that much about a certain operator, and the true motives behind their actions, even more when you E2 a character, since to my knowledge, when you E2 someone it's like they have been a long time with Rhodes Island. And that could rise even more questions about this topic, like; "If Plati is truly a spy, what changed in her mind to stay with Rhodes Island?". Anyways, I really like the Arknights lore xD
When you think about it "Operator records" aren't "operator interactions" but just random pieces of lore and dialogue that aren't necessarily meant for the Doctor, let me explain: Elysium's basic third talk is explanation how to get to the library, while Mint's first talk is a request to manually lead her to the library because the last person she asked for directions talked like a little bi4 and she couldn't understand anything. Also W's third branch of text with the Sarkaz boiler worker was just small part of the recent "Vigro event" (in CN) where W's tells him that she is preparing to head out for Londinium.
Your doubt is justified, Quaiser. As I like to get myself in the Doctor's role, I shall quote M8-8 After story: "You look at the operators and it strikes you with a sense of unfamiliarity. After all, you don't know most of them. The operators wrap up their work in the area and begin to leave." We may gain 200% of their Trust towards us but how much do we trust others. Do we have anyone we can trust?
At this point, I believe my Gravel thinks it's not worth it. She dies hundreds of times during CC, just how much do you have to pay for an assassin to keep doing this?
All right, CN player here, I have been studying the background and official lores a lot in my spare time. Here is one thing I can assure all of you: *Gravel is no chance ever to be a traitor, and for Platinum, most likely not* . And below are the evidence I have. I feel like this video has already spent 3/4 of the time explain for Platinum and did a really amazing job, so I will talk about Gravel. In Maria Nearl event, at the end of the story, Gravel showed up. Not just that she showed how clearly she saw through the Kazimierz's spoiled side and showed how despicable she felt, she also said, "The people from Rhodes Island seem to have arrived." At that point it is clear that she was representing Rhodes Island to Kazimierz, we can see who is the one on the opposite side here. *SPOILER Alert* In Gravel's Operator Record, Gravel was in Marcin's bar and fought a bounty hunter (instant kill) upon a "trafficked girl". Some of the secrets has been revealed. It was claimed that Gravel's old man blong to Maytree family's eldest knight, who was said to be a "Big Role" by Bald Marcin (Apparently Gravel is close with Marcin just as the Nearls are). She was also said to help the surrounding village around Kazimierz to expel the bounty hunters (said by the "girl" she saved in the story), and trying to find out any trace of where she was carried from (said by Gravel herself). One more thing pointed out is because of Gravel, there are no more kids been kidnapped to Kawaleriaki, the city where the Maria Nearl event took place. The conversation below was translated by myself, it expresses same meanings as the original text. In the conversation between she and her old man (I think his name is Gekoski?), she said * "I...... will go to Rhodes Island. I will follow him." * (I think everyone knows who "HIM" is) When Gekoski asked her if she has told "him" her real name, she said: * "Not yet. I need to confirm by myself again, make sure he didn't lie to me, or try to use me to process some evil plan." * After all, the bar thing is a dream (In which the conversation with Gekoski is her flashback, not the dream), as Gravel actually fell asleep in Doctor's office. That "girl" was actually Gravel's past. She had the same dream over and over again. At the end, she hope she could find some time to go back to Kazimierz with Doctor. We can see that Gravel actually choose to follow Dokutah not just because she is in love (as so many time she mentioned, "hahaha, are you feeling shy?" And in her profile, * "...since her reason for being here is obvious to everyone." * ), but maybe also because she sees what Dokutah wishes to achieve and what he's capable to achieve. At last, *Gravel is a prairie dog* *Gravel is a prairie dog* *Gravel is a prairie dog* She's not a hamster, she's a prairie dog.
I thought so too but mainly because the tone in which something is spoken has a big impact on implications and such, e.g. a few words might be emphasised by the speaker and so forth
Just a sidenote. Platinum's E2 promo art is chess themed and the Knight/Horse piece is presented by her which has an L shaped movement ignoring all pieces that blocks the tile so probably thats a slight hint that she's an infiltrator and in regards to Gravel, old L.A street languages prefer gold diggers to rats and Gravel belongs to the same classification
I've been mulling over an alternate theory for Gravel. It's entirely possible that she's suffering from Disinhibited social engagement disorder. DESD is one of the ways that people can cope with childhood abuse (typically neglect during the first two years of life or lacking a primary caregiver). People with the condition tend to be hyperactive; lack respect for or understanding of social boundaries; ask inappropriately personal questions; engage in age, culture, or relationship inappropriate touching (more of a problem with later childhood vs adulthood); and are quick to trust or form bonds with strangers. It most commonly develops among orphans housed in communal living arrangements with high caregiver to child ratios and among children raised by frequently absent single parents. Gravel's backstory could put her at similarly high risk. It would explain why she kisses people to say hello, shows such an interest in our personal lives, and trusts us with something so precious to her despite not knowing her for very long. The Doctor could have done something very minor that most people would have recognized as courtesy that she misinterpreted which could be enough to trigger the kind of deep affection for and devotion to the Doctor. I don't know if that's more or less likely than her plotting to kill us, but I do think it's even sadder. In Arknights, that seems to be as good evidence as any.
This is something (particularly with Gravel) I’ve wondered about a lot too, and your video has inspired me to refine my own theory. Sorry that this is a bit long, I’m just really into this sort of thing! Personally, Gravel’s love for the Doctor (at least in the romantic sense) has always struck me as far too exaggerated to be genuine. Arknights writers tend to go for very realistic characterization rather than leaning on tropes-so Gravel seemingly being “head over heels” for the Doctor from the first instant they meet was an immediate flag to me that those emotions are not genuine. I mean, really! An assassin appears out of nowhere, gets up in your personal space, and then volunteers to be your “bodyguard”? That sounds to me like extending an invitation to get yourself, you know, *assassinated*. …That much, though, seems to not be the case. Instead, I believe that Gravel’s exaggerated romantic mannerisms are intended to keep the Doctor off-balance around her while simultaneously making herself seem a bit silly-and thus more easily dismissed as harmless, and able to actually get that job as the Doctor’s bodyguard. But it was your vid pointing out her clear interest in what the Doctor is *doing* (and not simply more exaggerated faux-flirtation) that is the final piece of the puzzle to me: I believe Gravel is gathering information on us not because she is *currently* a spy, but because, due to her background, she is intensely used to fending for herself in a world where all relationships are monetary/transactional (i.e. Kamizierz). Gravel-or rather, Senomy-began life as a slave, and had to work her way to knighthood to earn her freedom; even then, as a knight she was still a tradable commodity. …So, with all that, of COURSE Gravel wants a safety net of information she can sell; this sort of thing is probably almost reflexive for her. However, that also explains the seemingly extremely genuine emotion that comes from her sharing her true name with us-and with that, at last dropping the “tee hee so flirty” act. Perhaps, she has finally learned she is safe here, and can (200%) trust us. …And then there’s Platinum. While I think her feelings are genuine too (and more genuinely romantic), whew I think you’re right that she’s primed for betrayal. How could my horse wife hurt me like this…
That is a nicely fleshed out theory, I like how you thought about her origins influencing her worries and behavior. Her fatal femme trope made it difficult for me to see past her exterior, whereas the unlockable dialogues and files really helped reinforce her standing in my mind. I am not certain about the legitimacy, but there is a theory floating around that Gravel could be rescued from slavery by the doctor in the past before he lost his memory, which would nicely explain why she was so immediately outgoing with us. Additionally, since you recruit/meet her after you start the game with your memories lost, she might feel like this is finally her chance to put her heart into a kiss with you. The doctor was kidnapped before this and there was a non zero possibility that the doctor could have died, so if she doesn't do it now, who's to say that she'll get a chance in the future? Maybe the absence of the doctor triggered a "I wish I mustered the courage to do it before he disappeared..." mentality. As a final note, I would like to bring attention to her trust tap line as well as her operation failure line : "Yes. I'm right here, always and forever." "Sorry… did I… mess up again…?" The first line could be considered a yandere trope, but somehow I want to think that there is more to that than just a trope, which I'd like to add that AK in general has done a pretty good job from diverging from simply playing out tropes by gacha standards. It implies that she has somehow already known you for some time. The second line implies that she has messed up before in the past, this could just be a simple "mission failed, we'll get 'em next time" but considering the context of the character, I think it is a powerful reinforcement to the idea that she has messed up and lost you once in the past, the past before you lost your memories, perhaps even the kidnapping itself... I could be entirely wrong and there may be some evidence that I missed out, I would like to be proven wrong if you have any evidence against it, not that it is a challenge but because I want to know more about this surprisingly deep character. %Edit% : Ooof, while I was closing the wiki page after writing this comment I had a quick glance and noticed the words of her potential token : "A badly worn Kazimierz knight badge. No matter what happened in the past, seizing the here and now is what really matters." At first it might seem like its just a reference to her slave past, but what if, just what if it also brings subtle shadings to the idea that there was something significant in her past with the doctor too! UOOOOOOOH how exciting, but I should stop for now as I've written too much haha.
Well, even if they were originally sent to assassinate us, I wouldn't be too worried. W told us to our face we were third on her hit list and look at her now. Actually, former enemies working together in Rhodes Island is a recurring theme. Mudrock, W and Eunectes were our personal enemies with boss fights and everything. And then all of the following had some sort of feud in the past: Eunectes and Gavial Robin and Mountain Nian and Dusk Rosa and Zima Saria and Ifrit/Silence and of course, Lava and Hibiscus :p I'm sure there are others that have slipped my mind.
Every single bodyguard Doc has can betray him easily Shirayuki's the least likely to do so, she's there on Fumizuki's orders, and is already an open book to Kalt'sit, so she's lacking opportunity Schwarz has no current grudges, but can be compromised through Ceylon and Herman Doykos Gravel's hella suspicious, her opening line upon recruitment is seductive in nature, implying some alterior motive Platinum's still employed by the Armorless Union, gg ez
Shining is also loyal in the last Kazimierz event, tried to assassinate the Doctor while she's in a date with you? Throws the staff and switches to sword. Everyone in the Armorless Union retreated in fear. Shining never uses her sword unless it's serious, and if she does, she becomes something bigger than "walking disaster area" Skadi. Shining fought an army alone. Once. Never again.
@@charginginprogresss considering how it's common for mispronounciation whenever VAs try to say some words, I can be forgiven if I assume it's an attempt at the English pronunciation.
Gravel: Tries to get close to the doctor, potentially spying on him, Definatly acting suspect Doctor: "lol why dont you just go get set on fire over and over again and die constantly to protect the ops I actually care about"
One thing I'd like to mention that you've not said in the video is that Gravel is part of the S.W.E.E.P team, which as far as I know, was formed by Kal'sit specifically to identify and execute any potential treason attempts against Rhodes Island, so that an incident like Babel doesn't happen again. Additionally, while I'm not too certain about this myself, there is a theory going around that Gravel was saved from slavery or something similar back before he lost his memory, hence her kiss might be a chance for her to finally express her feelings for doctor. With him losing his memory maybe she feels like she can finally do it, or to do it because the doctor was missing for some time and if she doesn't do it now, who's to say she'll ever get a chance to finally get to it. I really like the AK lore and storytelling that goes with operators in general, it is written rather realistically for waifu gacha standards and I really like how most operators maintain a professional relationship or one of trust instead of having romantic feelings as a default. I chanced upon your channel in the "One fact about every operator" video and was happy to see that you actually noted some of the very overlooked stuff, I hope you continue making videos about the lore of the world and the operators and I wish you good luck. o/
This is actually interesting theory video i never suspected them at all until yeah your video but if they try to get close me I’ll call a huge oni’s called matoimaru and hoshiguma to take “care” of them lol also good luck with your university study we really appreciate your time for us
After having carefully studied chapter 8, I can confidently say if Kal'tsit is involved, then something about Platinum is playing into a bigger game. She is incredibly callous and tactical in her social interactions. I daresay she could pass off as a complete sociopath and only cares about Amiya and Theresa. Everything else she approaches purely with logic and a tactical evaluation and I have not once seen her be even remotely surprised throughout the story so far. If anything, you are very likely onto something regarding Platinum just from the fact that Kal is involved in and off itself.
I'm not really worried that my waifu is a traitor, because it's frostnova...I try to get over it and look for another waifu but I dont think mudrock be interested, so now im just a lonely doktah with no waifu alive *sad*
what i think of now : platinum becoming mute can actually become canon if the dev decided to make a story about her leaving rhodes island, thus her mute is a symbol of her absence
An event where you have to protect Platinum from their contractors will be a really good story for an event, of course in case that platinum is faking her affection towards the doctor.
Noooooo!! Don't make my favorite operator Platinum a traitor!!!! But in reality, I don't believe in that theory just yet. Kal'tsit is known to be extremely astute, and most certainly in favor of protecting the Doctor so long as he seems to not be his old self. If she suspected there was any spying or chance of traitors, Kal'tsit would likely have them dealt with or otherwise ensure the situation is avoided altogether. In terms of Leizi, there's actually a small line in Chapter 8 that reveals what her fate with the Censor was. She was mentioned in a line as being a "down-and-out exile," meaning that something must have happened to have her essentially stripped of rank and kicked out of the Censor. This was coming from Kaschchey of all people, who is also renowned for being extremely astute and observant of situations as they develop (perhaps not to Rhodes Islands extent, though). So I'm inclined to believe the only reason Leizi is allowed to remain a member of Rhodes Island is because of the fact her relations to the Censor deteriorated. I'd love to go on and on about how the Japanese laud the idea of Fate, and that it's a very common trope in their writing, but I don't think we need to use that point in this case since the other two are probably good enough until we get more information. However, it's worth mentioning since it would make sense for the current Platinum to be following in the romantic footsteps of her progenitor. Thank you for listening to my TED talk on how Platinum is definitely head-over-heels for you.
Kashchney is something to be feared and respected at the same time tbh. I wish Talulah can recover enough to become a RI operator but with her crimes and the political baggage her existence currently is. Well one can still dream right :
Listen to how she says it, it's the right way to pronounce it. Meteorite is also an italian word, that means the same of the english one, and that is the one she is using, so what Qaiser used is the correct pronounciation
Woah love hearing such theory videos. Haven't seen a lot of those based on Arknights lore. Would like to see a theory on Nian's family and purpose. Super mysterious beings who have lived for so long.
Great video and I love the theories. With Who is Real finally out, the Arknights Timeline is more complicated than ever. Any possibility of a timeline video in the future?
Near light actually cleared alot up, platinum was actually on the run from AU in one of the epilogues, and at the end of near light it is said that gravel is under the command of RI
The traitor/stalker that Meteorite talking about probably Deepcolor and her assistant. About Plat/Gravel, we dont know too much about the Old Man - Gravel's Master or i'd say we know nothing 'bout him. Maybe he sent Gravel to protect doctor because Plat also joining RI?
she is an emotion eater. All she can do is sense their emotions so it will take awhile to pick up anything sussy especially assassins are often trained to control their own emotions.
Gravel and Plati are EPIC operators so them betraying me would be sad but it'll add drama and action to my DOKUTAH story that is being written in my head Kalpog
I feel with some of if not all of gravels lines like " that so interesting" the tone and the way she says it is more like that of someone doting over you...like the girl who has a crush on a football play saying "you are the quarterback, that's so interesting". So I see it as most idle flirty small talk. Platinum could be because she did have a crush on her target, but as ppl say she is on the run and even the logs say that we are the only link to her and Rhodes island. But to support your theory is a line from Firewatch "you should know that some of the eyes on you hold nothing but malice. you are not safe not even Rhodes Island"
As global's #1 Gravel simp, allow me to clarify: Gravel's affection (and her psychosis) are both 100% genuine. There's more than enough contextual information from other sources in the game to entirely confirm this. I did enjoy hearing your theories though, as always.
0:36 But... As Gravel is my best girl... I have already been deep into them!!! Also, I do think that Platinum did fall in love with the Docktah, and that Gravel may be a legit yandere for the Docktah and if not, is simply there to watch him!
By now it's pretty much explained in Near Light, Platinum betrayed Armorless Union and has to hide in RI so there's no chance she's scheming against us and Gravel is a liaison from Kazimierzan military, so she might technically spy for Adeptus Sprawiedliwi, but I find it unlikely. There's not much to gain from it for AS, and Gravel was already flirting with us before officially joining.
I think Gravel might have genuine feelings for the Doctor, but Platinum definitely doesnt. Just look at how she acted in Maria Nearl, she doesnt care about anything besides her orders. There is also the way they go about it, Gravel is too blunt. Her stalker-ish beheaviour is too risky to be a ploy to get closer, the Doctor could be weirded out or she could get expelled. Meanwhile Platinum is much more subtle. As you said, she began getting close to the Doctor after her staring contest, doesnt that sound like she does so to ensure the Doctor wont be convinced by Maria and Zofia to kick her out? I think they were both sent to spy, but I also believe they were sent by different factions of Kazimierz, due to the Maria Nearl epilogue and final email. However I will refrain from speculation since I cant remember the details. Lets just say I'm convinced Gravel is like Sirayuki and Platinum is here to finish what she started in Kazimierz. (And no, I'm not a Gravel simp. In all honesty I've grown to hate her as much as Catapult. She is the reason it took me months to get Projekt Red)
They're assassins and they might be trained on the art of persona, making us grow affections towards them. In the end, I will always keep a gun in my pocket.
I don't worry that much about Kal'sit to be honest. Although she may seem to be mad at you because of what happened in the past she's the least person that I could think of that may betray the Doctor or Amiya.
the whole thing about the distrust between Old Doctor and Kal'stit also started from them essentially running their own black operations without supervision/ knowledge of each other. (Aside from Dokutah "killing" Theresa) of course
3:26 yknow, now with everything mentioned i feel like the work platinum refering there is the work to spy on you but since she develop feeling for you she changed her mind and decide just to work fully for rhodes or so i wish, shes cute afterall
About monitoring RI I think it's PRTS and Kaltits combine power. If Plati and Gravel are spies then I have 3 thoughts: 1) Till this point they are actually interested in/ in love with Doktah or he has pull out a seriously good deal that change their mind 2) They might aware of Skadi's feelings for Doktah and should anything happen to him it's the end for everything. After all Skadi is a walking disasters. 3) This third one just for fun tho.Maybe he can be teleported back to the high tech coffin and regenerate there or Doktah has some hidden powers that scares both of them.
Now that the Nearl the Radiant Knight side story is out, this video is probably in the process of being updated with more up-to-date info. Still a pretty good breakdown of the two with what little data we had at the time.
Interesting but with rI current officials if either plat or gravel plans to do anything they know most likely it would fail and the smart choice is to just be their ally
I think the next block of chapters will deal with this in some way or another, we already saw on the Infected video that Kazimierz will keep being relevant. So we will be getting our answers sooner than later. Or at the very least some clues as to WTF is going on. BTW, and in line with your "the dokutha is not a denes MC", I think that holds more wight than just a random joke. By all intends and purposes, I think the Doctor is actually special in the since they may be able to change fate in Terra. Based, at least, in one of the posible things we can say in one of the CN events, to "Fight against Fate." As well as the fact Nian is interested in us, possibly for the same reason. Again, only time will show how wrong I am in this regard.
Important bits of information: Rhodes Island does have some "special forces" in the ranks of Operators that act as internal security and spies/assassins checking system - they can be placed into Command Room for -0,05 happiness consumption reduction. Only a few people knows that they do this job - Doctor, Amiya, Kal'tsit and other members, if I am not mistaken. I am not fully sure if this does prevent all the bad folks to infiltrate into the ranks of RI, but that's certainly something to consider.
Qaiser my man, I have a really, like, really serious question, no memes, no jokes, nothing SUS. I don't know if you will release a video, or anything related to him but... Why do you hate Aak so much? Like, legit question.
I hate everything about him, the way he talks, the stuff he says, his behaviour in general, not even talking about the fact that he’s a Furry But if he decides to appear in my pulls one day, I might change my mind
@@QaiserMLG I see. I had almost the same concept against Yen when we saw what he did to the people in low Lungmen. There is no way to forget all sins he committed. And about Aak, perhaps as an operator he is actually well suited to some combos with his S3, but lore wise, you will probably not like him too much. Who knows? Thank you for your honest reply. If you ask me, I don't hate operators. Not even Yen after what he did, I'm not pleased with his overall outcome but he had a fair point, he was trying to defend Lungmen, and sometimes, people with power carry out huge mistakes in order to mitigate other issues, sadly in the worst possible way.
For me, the mad medical doctor angle is really off-putting. Doctors who conduct unethical experiments on patients are typically regarded as among the worst monsters humanity has ever produced and they always justify their arrogance and depravity based on "but look at the results" We've got at least a handful of this character archetype in Arknights, a horrifying number for a pharmaceutical company, but Aak is supposed to be the worst. I don't like it when Josef Mengele is portrayed as a lovable but misunderstood scamp.
I don't think that either of their motives is to assassinate the doctor. First of all, if it's true that gravel used to be a slave and wasn't given that identity, then her boss/owner would have instructed her to go for the kill as soon as she had the chance (not concerning that she might be killed in the process). Second, since kaltsit isnt a fool she probably would have cought on to any irregularities that platinum might have displayed and maybe have set a trap to test platinums intentions. As for the possibility that they are trying to sabotage something, it's gotta be something big and interesting if they not only sent an assassin but also the platinum.
I think Gravel may have an interest in your work, because it is your work, and she finds what you're doing interesting. That my take anyways, could be wrong.
Platinum : "I loved and killed my beloved as part of the business." Gravel : *AND I'LL CATCH A GRENADE FOR YAAAAAA* - This post was made by the Bruno Mars Gang
one thing i want to throw into the mix: assassins/ninjas were not only meant to kill/sabotage, more often then not (at least with ninjas) they gather information. considering the relatively small size of rhodes island, anyone worth the weight in originium prime can see the impact this small "company" has had throughout terra so far. The armorless union of kazimierz isn't stupid, they just want to make sure they've got a tab on rhodes island initially, the way i see it, and use their agents for more active action when it's necessary, in case any future endeavours or investment might get threatened by RI. Whether either of them actually fall in love remains to be seen, maybe plati will get a change of heart and get an alt, going full thirsty thot knight for the dokutah (would be fun to see) but as it stands right now, i've never fully trusted either of them.
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@@QaiserMLG why is your comment 1 day ago when it was posted an hour ago?
"We're going to go deep into them."
Very well.
and then deeper. . . intresting.
;)
Platinumussy
Oh god, I remember the Ao3 fanfics I read about them.
Like TF2 it’s time to fight the Gravel Wars
Because I’d “mine” that
It's possible, especially with the previous platinum falling in love with his target, also tbh with Kaltsit looking after us I'm not too concerned.
And shirayuki stalks us from the shadows too. So lmao anyone tries to start some shit, she'll know
@@huzai7083 Probably acting as an informant to the Lady *Making sure we're taking care of Ch'en Chen maybe*
Don't forget we have Schwarz as a personal bodyguard too.
We have a bunch of people looking out for us, there really isn’t anything that could happen to us
...or is there?
@@in_good_name3568 tbh Schwartz is bodyguard of Ceylon, but she also tasked to keep an eye on dokutah so nothing bad happens to Ceylon's benefactor...
So her priority will always Ceylon first, dokutah safety comes after Ceylon...
Meteorite : what is that sounds? Is someone here?
Literally ethan and Manticore : *stand still they will not see us*
This Doktah, after playing too many games with optical stealth enemies: "I got this."
*starts swinging wildly at thin air
@@Sl4wt3r "calls in Siver Ash"
"Ah, it must be the wind"
Drax will learn well from them
Shirayuki: nin nin
Fun Fact, the target of the previous Platinum who he fell in love with was titled the 'Black Knight,' a former champion of the Kazimierz Major according to Czarny when he and the current Platinum visited an exhibit. The 'Black Knight' whose grave was also visited by V and Kowal before Maria's final match.
Yea and that Black Knight is Shining
Everything is connected somehow, Arknights might be the second Game of Thrones after all
@@QaiserMLG chapter 9 (and future chapters) do be vibing
The grave was a fake, if not belongs to someone else entirely. The Black Knight got saved by Silverash and he recruited her into his squad. And The Black Knight isn't Shining. You can see her in the full illustration of the Kjerags by the original artist. She's the one with the blonde hair and two enormous horns. You can even see her in the 2nd Anniversary PV when Silverash showed up (left side of the screen).
@@hunt7533 Black Knight isn't Shining, lmao.
Shining is a Sarkaz. The Black Knight was Laethanian(idk if right spelling, basically goat peeps like eyja and earthspirit) who was recruited by SilverAsh as one of his bodyguards.
Platinum has been my waifu and assistant ever since I got her so- if she really is a traitor she's dloing an excellent job
😳
Definitely my favorite character
I even bought her a new swimsuit. Why would she betray me?
Interesting that you didn't mention that Gravel tells the doctor her real name as a sign of trust. I think this video may have focused a bit more on Platinum than on Gravel.
Yeah, given that even her "family" (to whom she was sold) doesn't know her real name, that might be a big, like "humongously big", flag.
Tbh this doesn’t really take away the possibility of an act for me, but you got a point
This could mean that we witnessed the very moment she actually fell for us. Meaning she was a spy/double agent with intent to get close by pretending being lovestruck, but after spending some time at RI, witnessing our talents and care, rewarding her hard work with second promotion and hitting that 200% changed her act into the real thing
Damn... I gotta E2 Gravel
Or she's using that detail to further install a fake sense of trust, assassin's at most times are good liars, or at least withhold the truth.
BETRAYAAAAAAL~!
But seriously, I dig the idea of traitors being among the ranks of Rhodes Island as a part of an even bigger picture that wants the Doctor out of their hair, but the traitors legit end up developing feelings for the Doctor because unlike the bigger picture that sent them there to be a sleeper agent to dispose of him, the Doctor legit cares about them (or at the very least, drives a hard enough bargain to make them prefer being on the Doctor’s side). XP
It would definitely make for some really interesting dynamics
"legit cares about them"
*Gravel remembering faust purple arrow.
Gravel : sure he is.
@@fatherpucci6111 That's why I use Cuora, and make sure she's always healed, and survives.
Imagine Doctor pulling the traitors to RI's side, then it is revealed that Doctor IS a traitor to RI. RI civil war?
Netori in a nutshell
You need to remember gravel gives us her real name as a sign of trust after her E2 since she's actually a slave knight.
Platinum is a bit of the same since she's actually on the run from the armorless union since she really doesn't care about orders and wants freedom tho there is no direct evidence except the small epilogue we had at the end of the nearl event
What does it mean? I still confused
Platinum and Gravel secretly have a love conflict to get the smashing with the doctor
Best Case Scenario
Between the likes of:
~Empathic Fiend Lord bunny protag
~Explosive chainsaw cat bestie
~Telepathic orbital strike kitten
~Gravity defying Red murder pupper
~Spicy metal-bending God sibling #1
~Artsy reality-warping God sibling #2
~"Cthulhu might be my Grandpa" Skadi
~Dr. "I have an Originium Dragon, your argument is invalid." Kal'tsit
...I feel like Doc is pretty safe. Probably.
Jokes aside. While the real possibility exists that Gravel/Plat could be double agents, the fact remains that they have both saved my ass so many times that I'll love them both all the same.
This is amazing
I can figure out everyone but the red murder pupper….. Projekt Red?
@@benjamincooper7160 Yeah lol. You are correct.
Red occasionally just decides to ignore the general laws of physics and walk around on the walls/ceiling/etc.
Edit: Typo.
Not to mention Oh-so fashionable One Horned Yakuza Bestie!
@@benjamincooper7160 Yeah, she's known to just walk on walls, if I'm remembering correctly.
5:56 most raw emotion I have ever heard
haha platipus would never be faking her love you're just overthinking it bro haha no way would she do that :) :) :)
PlatipUS, AMOGUS
I agree no way this horse waifu will betray us
PlatiSUS
@@f.b.lagent1113 SUSsuro
I find it amusing that even though we have operator files, sometimes we just don't know that much about a certain operator, and the true motives behind their actions, even more when you E2 a character, since to my knowledge, when you E2 someone it's like they have been a long time with Rhodes Island. And that could rise even more questions about this topic, like; "If Plati is truly a spy, what changed in her mind to stay with Rhodes Island?". Anyways, I really like the Arknights lore xD
I really like how the records are in universe.
True, even if you promote them and reach 200 Trust, so many mysteries remain and new ones arise
Well, isn't this an interesting encounter ey darkry?
When you think about it "Operator records" aren't "operator interactions" but just random pieces of lore and dialogue that aren't necessarily meant for the Doctor, let me explain:
Elysium's basic third talk is explanation how to get to the library, while Mint's first talk is a request to manually lead her to the library because the last person she asked for directions talked like a little bi4 and she couldn't understand anything.
Also W's third branch of text with the Sarkaz boiler worker was just small part of the recent "Vigro event" (in CN) where W's tells him that she is preparing to head out for Londinium.
Your doubt is justified, Quaiser. As I like to get myself in the Doctor's role, I shall quote M8-8 After story:
"You look at the operators and it strikes you with a sense of unfamiliarity. After all, you don't know most of them.
The operators wrap up their work in the area and begin to leave."
We may gain 200% of their Trust towards us but how much do we trust others. Do we have anyone we can trust?
Manticore probably.
At this point, I believe my Gravel thinks it's not worth it. She dies hundreds of times during CC, just how much do you have to pay for an assassin to keep doing this?
Well she's a slave sooooo yeah..
@@MUSHROOMONTABLE *was
*redeploy* you means
"We're gonna go deep into them" wise words from QaiserMLG 2021
All right, CN player here, I have been studying the background and official lores a lot in my spare time. Here is one thing I can assure all of you: *Gravel is no chance ever to be a traitor, and for Platinum, most likely not* . And below are the evidence I have.
I feel like this video has already spent 3/4 of the time explain for Platinum and did a really amazing job, so I will talk about Gravel.
In Maria Nearl event, at the end of the story, Gravel showed up. Not just that she showed how clearly she saw through the Kazimierz's spoiled side and showed how despicable she felt, she also said, "The people from Rhodes Island seem to have arrived." At that point it is clear that she was representing Rhodes Island to Kazimierz, we can see who is the one on the opposite side here.
*SPOILER Alert*
In Gravel's Operator Record, Gravel was in Marcin's bar and fought a bounty hunter (instant kill) upon a "trafficked girl". Some of the secrets has been revealed. It was claimed that Gravel's old man blong to Maytree family's eldest knight, who was said to be a "Big Role" by Bald Marcin (Apparently Gravel is close with Marcin just as the Nearls are). She was also said to help the surrounding village around Kazimierz to expel the bounty hunters (said by the "girl" she saved in the story), and trying to find out any trace of where she was carried from (said by Gravel herself). One more thing pointed out is because of Gravel, there are no more kids been kidnapped to Kawaleriaki, the city where the Maria Nearl event took place.
The conversation below was translated by myself, it expresses same meanings as the original text.
In the conversation between she and her old man (I think his name is Gekoski?), she said * "I...... will go to Rhodes Island. I will follow him." * (I think everyone knows who "HIM" is) When Gekoski asked her if she has told "him" her real name, she said: * "Not yet. I need to confirm by myself again, make sure he didn't lie to me, or try to use me to process some evil plan." *
After all, the bar thing is a dream (In which the conversation with Gekoski is her flashback, not the dream), as Gravel actually fell asleep in Doctor's office. That "girl" was actually Gravel's past. She had the same dream over and over again. At the end, she hope she could find some time to go back to Kazimierz with Doctor. We can see that Gravel actually choose to follow Dokutah not just because she is in love (as so many time she mentioned, "hahaha, are you feeling shy?" And in her profile, * "...since her reason for being here is obvious to everyone." * ), but maybe also because she sees what Dokutah wishes to achieve and what he's capable to achieve.
At last,
*Gravel is a prairie dog*
*Gravel is a prairie dog*
*Gravel is a prairie dog*
She's not a hamster, she's a prairie dog.
Hehe Hamster goes brrrrrr
Wait, i thought she was a rat? Since her skill name rat swarm
@@indexwell6546 prairie dog in Chinese 土拨鼠 Mouse/Rat in Chinese 鼠/耗子
@@riza-2396 that's right
Also the upcoming CN event will have stories for Gravel and Platinum, and seems that they are gonna fight.
The fact that you read their voicelines instead play it back makes this funny
I thought so too but mainly because the tone in which something is spoken has a big impact on implications and such, e.g. a few words might be emphasised by the speaker and so forth
If you look at PLATINIUM E2 she is the white piece infiltrated in the black pieces that can represent Rhodes Island
So, in other words
she's the *impostor* _Among US?_
@@jojomaster7675 Yes, she is... The IMPOSTOR
@@prinzstarrk °-°
Just a sidenote. Platinum's E2 promo art is chess themed and the Knight/Horse piece is presented by her which has an L shaped movement ignoring all pieces that blocks the tile so probably thats a slight hint that she's an infiltrator and in regards to Gravel, old L.A street languages prefer gold diggers to rats and Gravel belongs to the same classification
Never really thought about those Chess implications, that’s sick
This theory hits me where it hurts, my insecurities, trust issues and paranoia, There's two imposter amogus lol.
Great video mate, cheers!
I've been mulling over an alternate theory for Gravel. It's entirely possible that she's suffering from Disinhibited social engagement disorder. DESD is one of the ways that people can cope with childhood abuse (typically neglect during the first two years of life or lacking a primary caregiver). People with the condition tend to be hyperactive; lack respect for or understanding of social boundaries; ask inappropriately personal questions; engage in age, culture, or relationship inappropriate touching (more of a problem with later childhood vs adulthood); and are quick to trust or form bonds with strangers.
It most commonly develops among orphans housed in communal living arrangements with high caregiver to child ratios and among children raised by frequently absent single parents. Gravel's backstory could put her at similarly high risk.
It would explain why she kisses people to say hello, shows such an interest in our personal lives, and trusts us with something so precious to her despite not knowing her for very long. The Doctor could have done something very minor that most people would have recognized as courtesy that she misinterpreted which could be enough to trigger the kind of deep affection for and devotion to the Doctor.
I don't know if that's more or less likely than her plotting to kill us, but I do think it's even sadder. In Arknights, that seems to be as good evidence as any.
I wasn't aware about that possibility, but it fits nicely the way you put it hmm...
we have several operators watching our back, these two won't even get the chance to try
Lol if they didn't fall in love with you, they just probably give up and join.
But they are not TRAITORS!
Read her operator records
This is something (particularly with Gravel) I’ve wondered about a lot too, and your video has inspired me to refine my own theory. Sorry that this is a bit long, I’m just really into this sort of thing!
Personally, Gravel’s love for the Doctor (at least in the romantic sense) has always struck me as far too exaggerated to be genuine. Arknights writers tend to go for very realistic characterization rather than leaning on tropes-so Gravel seemingly being “head over heels” for the Doctor from the first instant they meet was an immediate flag to me that those emotions are not genuine. I mean, really! An assassin appears out of nowhere, gets up in your personal space, and then volunteers to be your “bodyguard”? That sounds to me like extending an invitation to get yourself, you know, *assassinated*.
…That much, though, seems to not be the case. Instead, I believe that Gravel’s exaggerated romantic mannerisms are intended to keep the Doctor off-balance around her while simultaneously making herself seem a bit silly-and thus more easily dismissed as harmless, and able to actually get that job as the Doctor’s bodyguard. But it was your vid pointing out her clear interest in what the Doctor is *doing* (and not simply more exaggerated faux-flirtation) that is the final piece of the puzzle to me:
I believe Gravel is gathering information on us not because she is *currently* a spy, but because, due to her background, she is intensely used to fending for herself in a world where all relationships are monetary/transactional (i.e. Kamizierz). Gravel-or rather, Senomy-began life as a slave, and had to work her way to knighthood to earn her freedom; even then, as a knight she was still a tradable commodity.
…So, with all that, of COURSE Gravel wants a safety net of information she can sell; this sort of thing is probably almost reflexive for her. However, that also explains the seemingly extremely genuine emotion that comes from her sharing her true name with us-and with that, at last dropping the “tee hee so flirty” act. Perhaps, she has finally learned she is safe here, and can (200%) trust us.
…And then there’s Platinum. While I think her feelings are genuine too (and more genuinely romantic), whew I think you’re right that she’s primed for betrayal. How could my horse wife hurt me like this…
That's a pretty good theory. Personally, I would not get anywhere near someone who is former assasin for a while or until they can be trusted
That is a nicely fleshed out theory, I like how you thought about her origins influencing her worries and behavior.
Her fatal femme trope made it difficult for me to see past her exterior, whereas the unlockable dialogues and files really helped reinforce her standing in my mind.
I am not certain about the legitimacy, but there is a theory floating around that Gravel could be rescued from slavery by the doctor in the past before he lost his memory, which would nicely explain why she was so immediately outgoing with us.
Additionally, since you recruit/meet her after you start the game with your memories lost, she might feel like this is finally her chance to put her heart into a kiss with you. The doctor was kidnapped before this and there was a non zero possibility that the doctor could have died, so if she doesn't do it now, who's to say that she'll get a chance in the future? Maybe the absence of the doctor triggered a "I wish I mustered the courage to do it before he disappeared..." mentality.
As a final note, I would like to bring attention to her trust tap line as well as her operation failure line :
"Yes. I'm right here, always and forever."
"Sorry… did I… mess up again…?"
The first line could be considered a yandere trope, but somehow I want to think that there is more to that than just a trope, which I'd like to add that AK in general has done a pretty good job from diverging from simply playing out tropes by gacha standards. It implies that she has somehow already known you for some time.
The second line implies that she has messed up before in the past, this could just be a simple "mission failed, we'll get 'em next time" but considering the context of the character, I think it is a powerful reinforcement to the idea that she has messed up and lost you once in the past, the past before you lost your memories, perhaps even the kidnapping itself...
I could be entirely wrong and there may be some evidence that I missed out, I would like to be proven wrong if you have any evidence against it, not that it is a challenge but because I want to know more about this surprisingly deep character.
%Edit% : Ooof, while I was closing the wiki page after writing this comment I had a quick glance and noticed the words of her potential token :
"A badly worn Kazimierz knight badge. No matter what happened in the past, seizing the here and now is what really matters."
At first it might seem like its just a reference to her slave past, but what if, just what if it also brings subtle shadings to the idea that there was something significant in her past with the doctor too! UOOOOOOOH how exciting, but I should stop for now as I've written too much haha.
Gravel has low damage she cant kill you
If it’s enough to trigger that Sarkaz Guy, it should be enough to hurt you
@@QaiserMLG nah, after witnessing the doctor eating 2 whole mudrock golems in the recent CC, i would not be worried...
@@QaiserMLG pfft. Dokutah boils water in his mouth. No way Gravel can kill her.
There is an imposter Among Us, but I am certain it is not these two. Nah, the real imposter has always been close to us.
Maybe the real imposter are the friends we made along the way.
or Aak
Okay but think about this: What if we are the sus all along?
*A M O G U S*
@@MUSHROOMONTABLE This comment was written by W
Well, even if they were originally sent to assassinate us, I wouldn't be too worried. W told us to our face we were third on her hit list and look at her now.
Actually, former enemies working together in Rhodes Island is a recurring theme. Mudrock, W and Eunectes were our personal enemies with boss fights and everything. And then all of the following had some sort of feud in the past:
Eunectes and Gavial
Robin and Mountain
Nian and Dusk
Rosa and Zima
Saria and Ifrit/Silence
and of course, Lava and Hibiscus :p
I'm sure there are others that have slipped my mind.
Yeah, we definitely don’t have to worry in that regard
is Lava still hate Hibiscus's cooking?
@@bufftheluck2446 Last I heard, yes
Every single bodyguard Doc has can betray him easily
Shirayuki's the least likely to do so, she's there on Fumizuki's orders, and is already an open book to Kalt'sit, so she's lacking opportunity
Schwarz has no current grudges, but can be compromised through Ceylon and Herman Doykos
Gravel's hella suspicious, her opening line upon recruitment is seductive in nature, implying some alterior motive
Platinum's still employed by the Armorless Union, gg ez
Cries in Plume the forgotten.
That is why you have a Assassin only Responding to you (Manticore)
@@cloudfanlp4923 Uh no,she's part of sweep, kalsits personal hit squad.
@@reufuraque8771 Well she is not part of that. The only Playable Characters in sweep are Scavenger and project Red.
Shining is also loyal in the last Kazimierz event, tried to assassinate the Doctor while she's in a date with you? Throws the staff and switches to sword. Everyone in the Armorless Union retreated in fear. Shining never uses her sword unless it's serious, and if she does, she becomes something bigger than "walking disaster area" Skadi. Shining fought an army alone. Once. Never again.
The side story of platinum organization coming for her the doctor: oh your approaching my horse i will defeat(kill) everyone in your organization
I've started to play a game with myself to see if I can spot a mispronunciation.
Meteor-reee-teh. Kek.
It’s how she pronounces herself in game, that’s why I do that as well
It's the right way to pronounce it, goon.
It's meteorite in italian, not in english.
Listen to how she says it, it's the right way to pronounce it.
@@charginginprogresss considering how it's common for mispronounciation whenever VAs try to say some words, I can be forgiven if I assume it's an attempt at the English pronunciation.
Fell in love with Platinum even more after experienced Nearl Light event.
Gravel: Tries to get close to the doctor, potentially spying on him, Definatly acting suspect
Doctor: "lol why dont you just go get set on fire over and over again and die constantly to protect the ops I actually care about"
Well now I imagine Gravel actually following for us and Platinum being tasked to assassinate us. Gotta wonder how that'd turn out.
Platinum: Sorry Dokutah, its my duty..to end your life.
Dokutah: Cool, but first wear this neat skin i bought for you
it’s me or the quality of the voice is really better ? :)
Ho and the theme is very cool too
Thanks, I also think that I‘ve improved over time!
One thing I'd like to mention that you've not said in the video is that Gravel is part of the S.W.E.E.P team, which as far as I know, was formed by Kal'sit specifically to identify and execute any potential treason attempts against Rhodes Island, so that an incident like Babel doesn't happen again.
Additionally, while I'm not too certain about this myself, there is a theory going around that Gravel was saved from slavery or something similar back before he lost his memory, hence her kiss might be a chance for her to finally express her feelings for doctor. With him losing his memory maybe she feels like she can finally do it, or to do it because the doctor was missing for some time and if she doesn't do it now, who's to say she'll ever get a chance to finally get to it.
I really like the AK lore and storytelling that goes with operators in general, it is written rather realistically for waifu gacha standards and I really like how most operators maintain a professional relationship or one of trust instead of having romantic feelings as a default.
I chanced upon your channel in the "One fact about every operator" video and was happy to see that you actually noted some of the very overlooked stuff, I hope you continue making videos about the lore of the world and the operators and I wish you good luck. o/
Meanwhile yostar: *next event sorrow of the traitors*
That would be cool af
HG*
This is actually interesting theory video i never suspected them at all until yeah your video but if they try to get close me I’ll call a huge oni’s called matoimaru and hoshiguma to take “care” of them lol also good luck with your university study we really appreciate your time for us
Thanks a lot Bro, Oni-Supremacy!
After having carefully studied chapter 8, I can confidently say if Kal'tsit is involved, then something about Platinum is playing into a bigger game. She is incredibly callous and tactical in her social interactions. I daresay she could pass off as a complete sociopath and only cares about Amiya and Theresa. Everything else she approaches purely with logic and a tactical evaluation and I have not once seen her be even remotely surprised throughout the story so far. If anything, you are very likely onto something regarding Platinum just from the fact that Kal is involved in and off itself.
Based content creator, not once did I see double entendres like that so far
I'm not really worried that my waifu is a traitor, because it's frostnova...I try to get over it and look for another waifu but I dont think mudrock be interested, so now im just a lonely doktah with no waifu alive *sad*
Love ur videos, it makes arknights story better even its not official ❤️
"were gonna go deep into them"
oh boi here we go........
This is why the green house members is my waifus.
hahaha
what i think of now : platinum becoming mute can actually become canon if the dev decided to make a story about her leaving rhodes island, thus her mute is a symbol of her absence
An event where you have to protect Platinum from their contractors will be a really good story for an event, of course in case that platinum is faking her affection towards the doctor.
That is definitely some interesting dynamics. I love it when lores and files of different operators reference each other meaningfully
"whats that sound? is someone monitoring this room?!"
manticore: "ohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshitohshit"
It's just a theory, A GAME THEORY
Noooooo!! Don't make my favorite operator Platinum a traitor!!!!
But in reality, I don't believe in that theory just yet. Kal'tsit is known to be extremely astute, and most certainly in favor of protecting the Doctor so long as he seems to not be his old self. If she suspected there was any spying or chance of traitors, Kal'tsit would likely have them dealt with or otherwise ensure the situation is avoided altogether.
In terms of Leizi, there's actually a small line in Chapter 8 that reveals what her fate with the Censor was. She was mentioned in a line as being a "down-and-out exile," meaning that something must have happened to have her essentially stripped of rank and kicked out of the Censor. This was coming from Kaschchey of all people, who is also renowned for being extremely astute and observant of situations as they develop (perhaps not to Rhodes Islands extent, though). So I'm inclined to believe the only reason Leizi is allowed to remain a member of Rhodes Island is because of the fact her relations to the Censor deteriorated.
I'd love to go on and on about how the Japanese laud the idea of Fate, and that it's a very common trope in their writing, but I don't think we need to use that point in this case since the other two are probably good enough until we get more information. However, it's worth mentioning since it would make sense for the current Platinum to be following in the romantic footsteps of her progenitor.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk on how Platinum is definitely head-over-heels for you.
Kashchney is something to be feared and respected at the same time tbh. I wish Talulah can recover enough to become a RI operator but with her crimes and the political baggage her existence currently is. Well one can still dream right :
I accidentally cracked when you said "...and back to Platipus again..." lmao
I actually don’t mind especially gravel. I love her and her skin very much
I think Platinum is genuine though, but maybe she's just that convincing.
"Meteorite" : nope
"Me-tio-REEETOR" : Yeah thats it
Fam, that’s how she pronounces herself in her voicelines
Listen to how she says it, it's the right way to pronounce it.
Meteorite is also an italian word, that means the same of the english one, and that is the one she is using, so what Qaiser used is the correct pronounciation
lol my bad i guess. The more you know...
Woah love hearing such theory videos. Haven't seen a lot of those based on Arknights lore. Would like to see a theory on Nian's family and purpose. Super mysterious beings who have lived for so long.
"Back to platipus again"
Now i can't unsee that
Platinum was my favorite operator before this. Now it's even further cemented.
Great video and I love the theories.
With Who is Real finally out, the Arknights Timeline is more complicated than ever. Any possibility of a timeline video in the future?
Yes! Been working on a full timeline for months actually, I will release it either after Who is Real or after the R6S Event
@@QaiserMLG Yess please! I've looking for an Arknights timeline for ages but can't really find anything really cohesive.
If i were Plat or Gravel, i wouldn't even try to make smth bad for Dokutah. Bcs at the moment i'd get killed by Amiya or Kal'Pog
Near light actually cleared alot up, platinum was actually on the run from AU in one of the epilogues, and at the end of near light it is said that gravel is under the command of RI
The traitor/stalker that Meteorite talking about probably Deepcolor and her assistant.
About Plat/Gravel, we dont know too much about the Old Man - Gravel's Master or i'd say we know nothing 'bout him. Maybe he sent Gravel to protect doctor because Plat also joining RI?
Tbh Meteorite could have been speaking about a lot of people, there’s some shady stuff happening at RI
Cant amiya just read minds? Just ask her if theyre up to anything sussy
she is an emotion eater. All she can do is sense their emotions so it will take awhile to pick up anything sussy especially assassins are often trained to control their own emotions.
Damn this video is structured as a well made research paper. Helped me a lot in school. Arigato.
Nice pink yandere hamster, no stab pls.
Interesting especially after sering the new PV with Guard Nearl fighting Platinum.
nervous zafang moment
Well looks like I will finally sub, I personally am too lazy to read stuff so guess i found my go to place for lore content.
"deep into them" damm bro
Gravel and Plati are EPIC operators so them betraying me would be sad but it'll add drama and action to my DOKUTAH story that is being written in my head
Kalpog
I feel with some of if not all of gravels lines like " that so interesting" the tone and the way she says it is more like that of someone doting over you...like the girl who has a crush on a football play saying "you are the quarterback, that's so interesting". So I see it as most idle flirty small talk.
Platinum could be because she did have a crush on her target, but as ppl say she is on the run and even the logs say that we are the only link to her and Rhodes island.
But to support your theory is a line from Firewatch "you should know that some of the eyes on you hold nothing but malice. you are not safe not even Rhodes Island"
Qaiser : 5:56
Aak User : chill... you'll get used to it later
As global's #1 Gravel simp, allow me to clarify: Gravel's affection (and her psychosis) are both 100% genuine. There's more than enough contextual information from other sources in the game to entirely confirm this. I did enjoy hearing your theories though, as always.
me: i know everything about arknights lore
friend: oh you read everything right
me:
friend: you read everything right???
0:36 But... As Gravel is my best girl... I have already been deep into them!!!
Also, I do think that Platinum did fall in love with the Docktah, and that Gravel may be a legit yandere for the Docktah and if not, is simply there to watch him!
By now it's pretty much explained in Near Light, Platinum betrayed Armorless Union and has to hide in RI so there's no chance she's scheming against us and Gravel is a liaison from Kazimierzan military, so she might technically spy for Adeptus Sprawiedliwi, but I find it unlikely. There's not much to gain from it for AS, and Gravel was already flirting with us before officially joining.
6:00 Thanks for pronouncing Meteorite right, lol
I think Gravel might have genuine feelings for the Doctor, but Platinum definitely doesnt.
Just look at how she acted in Maria Nearl, she doesnt care about anything besides her orders.
There is also the way they go about it, Gravel is too blunt. Her stalker-ish beheaviour is too risky to be a ploy to get closer, the Doctor could be weirded out or she could get expelled. Meanwhile Platinum is much more subtle. As you said, she began getting close to the Doctor after her staring contest, doesnt that sound like she does so to ensure the Doctor wont be convinced by Maria and Zofia to kick her out?
I think they were both sent to spy, but I also believe they were sent by different factions of Kazimierz, due to the Maria Nearl epilogue and final email.
However I will refrain from speculation since I cant remember the details. Lets just say I'm convinced Gravel is like Sirayuki and Platinum is here to finish what she started in Kazimierz.
(And no, I'm not a Gravel simp. In all honesty I've grown to hate her as much as Catapult. She is the reason it took me months to get Projekt Red)
They're assassins and they might be trained on the art of persona, making us grow affections towards them. In the end, I will always keep a gun in my pocket.
I don't worry that much about Kal'sit to be honest. Although she may seem to be mad at you because of what happened in the past she's the least person that I could think of that may betray the Doctor or Amiya.
the whole thing about the distrust between Old Doctor and Kal'stit also started from them essentially running their own black operations without supervision/ knowledge of each other. (Aside from Dokutah "killing" Theresa) of course
3:26 yknow, now with everything mentioned i feel like the work platinum refering there is the work to spy on you
but since she develop feeling for you she changed her mind and decide just to work fully for rhodes
or so i wish, shes cute afterall
About monitoring RI I think it's PRTS and Kaltits combine power. If Plati and Gravel are spies then I have 3 thoughts:
1) Till this point they are actually interested in/ in love with Doktah or he has pull out a seriously good deal that change their mind
2) They might aware of Skadi's feelings for Doktah and should anything happen to him it's the end for everything. After all Skadi is a walking disasters.
3) This third one just for fun tho.Maybe he can be teleported back to the high tech coffin and regenerate there or Doktah has some hidden powers that scares both of them.
Love these lore videos!
Now that the Nearl the Radiant Knight side story is out, this video is probably in the process of being updated with more up-to-date info. Still a pretty good breakdown of the two with what little data we had at the time.
'however doctor is not dense harem protagonist MC'
well, have you met me before?
*hears the way he pronounces Meteorite*
*angry screaming can be heard*
Me, when I met Gravel: bodyguard? U just trying to escape from frontline, little pice of shame!
3:09
"And back to Platipus again"
... *Plati **_puss_*
That one serious AF doc : Oh dont WORRY I will remove them
Also platy and Gravyy : *Teardrops*
Interesting but with rI current officials if either plat or gravel plans to do anything they know most likely it would fail and the smart choice is to just be their ally
I think the next block of chapters will deal with this in some way or another, we already saw on the Infected video that Kazimierz will keep being relevant. So we will be getting our answers sooner than later. Or at the very least some clues as to WTF is going on.
BTW, and in line with your "the dokutha is not a denes MC", I think that holds more wight than just a random joke. By all intends and purposes, I think the Doctor is actually special in the since they may be able to change fate in Terra. Based, at least, in one of the posible things we can say in one of the CN events, to "Fight against Fate." As well as the fact Nian is interested in us, possibly for the same reason.
Again, only time will show how wrong I am in this regard.
Important bits of information:
Rhodes Island does have some "special forces" in the ranks of Operators that act as internal security and spies/assassins checking system - they can be placed into Command Room for -0,05 happiness consumption reduction. Only a few people knows that they do this job - Doctor, Amiya, Kal'tsit and other members, if I am not mistaken. I am not fully sure if this does prevent all the bad folks to infiltrate into the ranks of RI, but that's certainly something to consider.
Qaiser my man, I have a really, like, really serious question, no memes, no jokes, nothing SUS.
I don't know if you will release a video, or anything related to him but...
Why do you hate Aak so much? Like, legit question.
I hate everything about him, the way he talks, the stuff he says, his behaviour in general, not even talking about the fact that he’s a Furry
But if he decides to appear in my pulls one day, I might change my mind
@@QaiserMLG Um........
@@QaiserMLG I see.
I had almost the same concept against Yen when we saw what he did to the people in low Lungmen. There is no way to forget all sins he committed.
And about Aak, perhaps as an operator he is actually well suited to some combos with his S3, but lore wise, you will probably not like him too much. Who knows?
Thank you for your honest reply.
If you ask me, I don't hate operators. Not even Yen after what he did, I'm not pleased with his overall outcome but he had a fair point, he was trying to defend Lungmen, and sometimes, people with power carry out huge mistakes in order to mitigate other issues, sadly in the worst possible way.
For me, the mad medical doctor angle is really off-putting. Doctors who conduct unethical experiments on patients are typically regarded as among the worst monsters humanity has ever produced and they always justify their arrogance and depravity based on "but look at the results"
We've got at least a handful of this character archetype in Arknights, a horrifying number for a pharmaceutical company, but Aak is supposed to be the worst. I don't like it when Josef Mengele is portrayed as a lovable but misunderstood scamp.
you almost choke me to death with sweet potato when you call platinum platipus......
clever of you but cursed you
I don't think that either of their motives is to assassinate the doctor. First of all, if it's true that gravel used to be a slave and wasn't given that identity, then her boss/owner would have instructed her to go for the kill as soon as she had the chance (not concerning that she might be killed in the process). Second, since kaltsit isnt a fool she probably would have cought on to any irregularities that platinum might have displayed and maybe have set a trap to test platinums intentions. As for the possibility that they are trying to sabotage something, it's gotta be something big and interesting if they not only sent an assassin but also the platinum.
I think Gravel may have an interest in your work, because it is your work, and she finds what you're doing interesting. That my take anyways, could be wrong.
hmmm...
5:35 ... yeah no need to worry about assassins... one is already here...
Meteo-WHAT? Jesus that is a butchering
Since doctor is the first person who showed Gravel human decency I doubt she is faking.
Platinum : "I loved and killed my beloved as part of the business."
Gravel : *AND I'LL CATCH A GRENADE FOR YAAAAAA*
- This post was made by the Bruno Mars Gang
that shadowing Kal'pog is gold
one thing i want to throw into the mix:
assassins/ninjas were not only meant to kill/sabotage, more often then not (at least with ninjas) they gather information.
considering the relatively small size of rhodes island, anyone worth the weight in originium prime can see the impact this small "company" has had throughout terra so far.
The armorless union of kazimierz isn't stupid, they just want to make sure they've got a tab on rhodes island initially,
the way i see it, and use their agents for more active action when it's necessary, in case any future endeavours or investment might get threatened by RI.
Whether either of them actually fall in love remains to be seen, maybe plati will get a change of heart and get an alt, going full thirsty thot knight for the dokutah (would be fun to see)
but as it stands right now, i've never fully trusted either of them.