I’m going to be moving to Colorado so I most certainly want to work in the nature. I’m definitely considering any position to start off with I’m so excited. ❤
Awesome video it's very informative i have been considering job's like these for a very long time but never knew the difference positions that are available and the descriptions of the job title's 😀
thank you for this video. growing up I've always loved history, nature, and folklore/mythology. At first I was planning to become an archaeologist, but how my life is got in the way of that. So I was considering if working as a ranger or similar job works as an alternative and going by your descriptions; it sounds like it'd also be something I'd enjoy. This video really helps me figure out what kind of jobs I should be looking into. Thanks again. ^^
Haha didn’t really expect someone else in a similar position. Wanted badly to be an archaeologist but job prospects are not the best, now here I am looking at ranger positions
My friend, all of here as TN State Park Rangers wear all of those hats and more pending the park that you are stationed at. Thanks for making vids to help educate folks. Best wishes and happy trails!
Love to see RecTechs getting the shine they deserve! Yeah, outside of District Ranger level management, the FS rarely uses the term Ranger and even more rarely the 0025 series, though there are a few. Realistically, if you wear green pants and a funny hat and interact with the public a lot, you’re a Ranger to 99% of people. I believe every badge in NPS says Ranger, even in fees collection, etc. Your videos are great man, I’m about to start my first permanent job as a RecTech and I’ve watched several of them.
Haha, I appreciate it, I’m a few years out from my Recreation days, but yeah, the Ranger title is wild. not sure the accuracy of this but I’ve been told that the title is legitimately just thrown in some non popular job title postings to get more applicants in the hiring. Recreations technician to get on the trails is the truth.
So, depending on where you live, if that’s what you’re looking for then you can definitely get it by looking up the term forest ranger in your state (or being a park ranger for the FS or something). If you specifically are looking for being in the wilderness away from everyone a term I don’t go over here that could fit the bill is “Wilderness Ranger” that agencies offer in some locations. I got to work with one of them and the job seems awesome. They got to spend anywhere from a few days to over a week in the wilderness and that was their whole work week and they did a bit of permit checking but mostly conservation work out in the middle of nowhere. If you’re looking to be multiple days away from anybody else that’s definitely a good key word for job searching!
Hey, so I looked at a map of public lands and state parks in Nebraska. There’s a ton of state land on the east side of the state, if you want to stay local, I can’t post links on comments but there’s a conservation officer job (your states version of a law enforce the ranger) through the Nebraska outdoors website with info on how to get started. People think of the NPS/ forest service for LE rangers but honestly the same jobs on all public land generally (and IMO NPS doesn’t even have all the most beautiful land necessarily). Hope this is helpful, follow your dreams haha!
very interested in becoming a wildlife/park ranger interpreter, I’m going to be at cal poly humboldt in august sooo, let’s complete that journey first x)
That sounds awesome! There are a lot of opportunities through California State Parks and all of the feds to do summer work (maybe even find part time work during school) that you should look into! Awesome state to get started in! Good luck!
@@ecologystorymode lots of great non-profits that can also help you get your foot in the GS door through those agencies as well. To the original commenter, I agree that it’s definitely worth getting some experience on your resume even if you’re getting the degree
i wanted to become a forester or park ranger but it looks like I gotta go to college for that. Do you know of any outdoor careers that deal with preserving the wilderness and being around wildlife which doesnt require degrees Im desiring a career thats got a mix of ecosystem restoration, restoring a more natural environment, getting a chance to see and be around wildlife and wild animals
Hey, so a couple of good news things, a lot of these jobs especially based on the type of agency you’re looking to get into don’t require a bachelors and generally there are paths to avoid going to school and hiring less competitively. The trick is learning what postings are available in the agencies that you should aim for and how find opportunities to make yourself look like a better candidate or get hiring statuses for government if you want to go that way(though you probably won’t need it most places). Most of the country looking into forestry Technician jobs and biological science technician jobs doesn’t require a degree for govy or private jobs. Outside of that a lot of agencies with a lot of land if you work as a ranger (BLM park ranger GS4, maybe a state agency depending on where you are) or a maintenance worker (majorly overlooked job), you’ll learn a lot of skills on the job and you’ll be able to apply those to any restoration or recreational or whatever other type of work. Hope this is kind of what you’re looking for, I have a few more videos on the topic.
I thought your Star Wars ruler was a big box leaned up against the couch. I was thinkin it must be like a box for a really nice replica lightsaber. Then you nudged the cup it was in and absolutely broke my brain.
I think I wanna be a park ranger, i live in Tennessee and i quite like wildlife and the outdoors. What do you suggest i do as a highschool student to aid being a ranger when I can apply?
Hey, so I’m not 100% familiar with a lot of programs in your area (I lived in Davidson county when I was in middle school though haha); however, generally with park ranger jobs for more entry level they like seeing in interviews that you’re generally comfortable outdoors in rough terrain and can comfortably use tools or interact with people depending on the type of job. One really cool program that is good to look into is youth conservation corps which is a key term search on its own but the national park service has one as well as spots are available with the forest service I’m pretty sure which both are in your state. These from what I understand are residential summer programs mostly and would work really well for helping get a feel for the work out there and types of jobs. Outside of that any volunteer work you get in at a lot of agencies will be viewed the same as paid experience and so if you have any parks or restoration projects going on near you or conservation districts those are worth looking into. Hope this is a bit like what you’re looking for!
I am a senior at Sam Houston State University majoring in criminal justice. I really want to do law enforcement for the forest service at Sam Houston National Forest. I have looked at USA jobs and forest service out reach and I can't find any postings for jobs whatsoever for that type of position. Do you think they post more job listings in the spring and summer?
Hey, so wanting to do that kind of work is awesome and Texas is an awesome state to try to get involved. You have a few good options here: you can time your searches for the FS by googling "Forest Service Job Events" and looking for the calendar that they offer. You can also just do what's probably what will give you the deepest incite and literally just call the FS office for the forest and ask the person up front if you could ask one of the LE rangers if you could ask about the position (Probably a higher up will be in the actual station). The next option is looking at state options near you for things like Parks and Wildlife through the state. Those are just some of the ideas I'd have to really help up your odds. A lot of Fed LE starts off as seasonal and I'm not 100% on what all the opportunities are to increase your odds of a job so calling might be the #1 here. Hope this is helpful and good luck!
Hey, I appreciate the comment a lot and am sorry for responding so late. So as for a lot of parts of this I kind of have videos about it but within the next few weeks I wrote up an outline to kind of more directly answer these question with a video (they’re common on my channel). The first part of dreaming of being a park ranger is definitely understandable and common, most of all of their positions are uniformed and they work at a lot of really cool spots. However, if you’re looking to do ranger type work I’d definitely try to remain aware of the other agencies around you. State parks, forest service, fish wildlife, other feds, probably some county or land trust type areas that need the same kind of work done. To start out it really just depends on who you apply to. Most people start out with summer or winter seasonal jobs and transition into a full time from there but you can get lucky just applying to any full time spot. For fed work and NPS a really common route in is through conservation corps and getting a “public land corps” hiring status. However, I would definitely recommend looking at the hiring status video I made (but to self promote but it’s got a lot of useful tools for this). Mostly though, even where you live there’s ways to get involved. If you dream of working your way out to the Grand Canyon or something those are some good first steps. A bit all over the place, I hope this is helpful!
This is actually the reason I stepped away from applying to recreations when I was in college in New York(nowadays I’m glad that somebody can arrest some of these crazies on public land just not for me). Then I realized that you can just hike and make recreation more environmentally friendly which seems a lot more mellow haha.
I’m from Michigan, I’m an experienced bricklayer trying to change careers. What would you suggest a 23yo? I’d like to help wildlife rehab/forest rehab but I don’t know where to start. Any suggestions?
Hey man, you can volunteer or get a paid internships through non-profits like American Conservation Experience. And that experience counts towards applying to permanent, full time federal jobs (say you volunteer two temporary seasons with the FS either directly or through ACE at the GS-04 level, now you have a year of GS-04 experience so you can apply to the full time GS-05 jobs). Honestly though, I would say get a degree if it’s at all possible. You will go much farther in the land management agencies with one
Interesting and cool video. Apparently a Park Ranger is also a Wilderness Ranger. I applied for the County of Orange. I always loved Nature, twenty one right now, hopefully I get the job.
Hmm, honestly, there are ranger job websites and stuff. The best resource though would be talking to somebody at the location or agency you hope to work for if you have that info. Unfortunately, work is going to be in a specific way 100% determined by where you are and actually notably different in every location within an agency let alone across them. This video was just to show the broad paths there are. Some jobs combine multiple of these, some are titled Ranger and completely different than this.
So I'm not sure of you will see this but this is a job that I really want to do, and to be outside in nature rather behind a desk or counter. Do you have any advice for someone who is in NY and is wondering what the first step would be. Is there anyone you know who can help me out? Thanks.
Hey, sorry for the wait, I do try to reply to any emails that I get. Now in NYS your best bet is the DEC or DOA if what you're trying to do is stay in the state for general things, maybe looking at spots through cooperative extensions/ universities. I will say that it REALLY depends on your education plans and how much financial pressure you're under in life. www.dec.ny.gov/about/38596.html something here is a good place to start looking and how friends I went to school with started with the DEC (outside of civil service examinations). These jobs are top notch if you're in college and I believe don't require college to get into. If you're in high school or just out, look up the conservation corps near you and see if they'll help you get hired into one of the state program or give you public land corps (non competitive hiring for feds), some good websites for in NYS is Student Conservation Association and American Conservation Experience. You'll get paid potential decent even if it says volunteer, get educational rewards, and really open up if not doors then understanding of what the world of outdoors work holds. NYS is also one of the biggest homes of private environmental companies and Buffalo is not excluded in that(though it's not NYC haha) here's a list of job titles that can help you search indeed locally for non degree holding www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/jobs-that-help-the-environment-no-degree But yeah, I don't know your circumstances but this can hopefully help. Working outdoors, or with science is very different to other jobs out there and its an adjustment learning how to search and do resumes and all that but I'll definitely be making more vids on the topics coming up and hope this gives you a STARTING point on how to find stuff. Never be afraid to drop more questions or follow up on this, I hope to make a community where people can feel comfortable asking for just simple help. (BTW last little thought, if you live the idea of climbing stuff, running chainsaws, and dropping big trees occasionally consider arborist work haha)
I’ve worked with NPS so some of it might carry over to state stuff. First step is take is call up a place you’d like to work at and ask how they got to their position.
I appreciate it, and it really depends on what kind of agency/ job you're looking at. If you want to get a NPS park guide spot or BLM Park ranger spot that starts out at GS3/GS4 in the feds then you can get in with just work experience. Also, if you have a year of relevant work experience doing outdoors work you can generally apply to any GS5 or higher position. I know a lot of people that never finished their bachelors and are fed rangers. A bachelors will allow you to get more spots though so its definitely useful and in some agencies (NPS from my understanding) much more common. If you look into your states recreations(or forestry depending on the state) department it really is different based on where you live. County rangers generally do super diverse work and don't need a bachelors from what I've seen. My most recent video is a hiring pathways video for the feds if you're interested (not just trying to self promote it might be relevant haha). It talks about thing you can do anywhere from 16+ years of age, during college, or after college to get started. Hope this helps!
Sorry, I completely blanked on giving degree types. Honestly, from what I've seen its very liberal as long as you take some natural resources/env/bio courses. Because of the range of jobs you can do anything from Environmental degrees to history, to language. Here's an example of an old posting that doesn't require a degree to start but if you want to get hired at a higher pay it kind of goes into it a bit. www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/557346800
It’s either degree or experience on the applications. When it comes to hiring they want a degree in a related field such as biology, environmental science, or park management. Easiest jobs to get are student pathways positions, usually labeled as “student trainee (park guide, etc.). Also volunteer as much as you can to get some good connections and learn how to make a resume.
@@ecologystorymode bro out here with the good details we need fr 🙏🏼Good shit, idk why people are so vague about how to get into certain jobs. They don’t wanna share the sauce I guess smfh.
I recently looked into applying for a Park Ranger job but went through a party phase in my 20's where I did a variety of different drugs. Their drug policy goes back 10 years and I fear I would get rejected because of this. I currently use no illegal drugs and work a State Job as a Counselor at a psychiatric hospital. Should I even bother applying or what is your advice? Thanks. - Danny
Sounds like you’re looking into law enforcement ranger work at a specific agency. My best guess is depending on the size and how it works around you just calling and talking to a chief, if it’s LE or not there should always be a line for public in most agencies I’ve worked for. Other than that don’t stress too much, a couple options are talking to people in the agency you want to work for, I’ve had DRE instructors that have narcotics on their background so it’s not as bad as you’d think haha. If you need to wait look into non enforcement jobs with the agency while you wait to help get hired, maybe maintenance on public lands or something else where you can work outdoors and still be involved. Just some ideas, hope it helps!
Absolutely, the only thing is finding out what agency you’re trying to work for and setting your expectations realistically for wanting to enter without a bachelors degree. Usually you’ll be looking at starting off at a lower pay (with federal work there’s agencies that offer GS 3-4 spots to begin and depending on education/experience you can start higher. Other agencies county or something else can be really variable but I have some postings you can check for requirements in the description box). The term ranger is not a specific job and more a tag work used to make jobs more appealing than things like “customer service, maintenance, trail work, etc.” and you usually communicate to you that you’ll be working outdoors. But yeah, look into agencies that would interest you, look at the requirements for job postings or cold call an office (generally works better than you’d think with rec jobs). A lot of states an associates would probably be okay for a law enforcement ranger job too. Know this is a bit all over the place and hope something here is useful.
I went to Plattsburgh but I’ve worked between Texas, California, Oregon and Washington since then. Loved going to school there and learned a lot that got me ready for field work but never fully understood how the job part worked haha.
So while that is common in certain areas with a lot of foreign speakers or translation of material. Interpretive work just means communicating something about the historical or natural world to the public. I’ve helped make educational signs on rivers and about plants/science as well as leave no trace informational videos for the parks program. Tons more just a bit of examples. Hope this helps!
Hey, just saw this again and wanted to add. If the postings you’re seeing are bilingual it’s also just a time of year thing. Unfortunately with the feds(you can find state/private jobs too) it’s hard to tell when positions are opening up. The most common advice I’ve heard is to set up a saved search on USAjobs. We are close to when a lot of jobs open up right now and it might be helpful. Also, look at specific agencies hiring events pages!
Most likely early on most places will pay the same. In a lot of cases law enforcement just makes more money due to the nature of the job. A job in a wilderness area that allows you to cross into fire at times will probably yield the highest early on because of how well fires can pay. They all are working towards similar late career goals though and will end up leading towards more general of management jobs that pay well generally.
So this is probably a really agency/state specific thing and I would just call somebody from the agency you’re interested in or even just post on r/parkrangers. Generally though (very just my experience anecdotal) some places will have you wear long sleeves and some people’s supervisors don’t care and I’ve worked with people who have a sleeve and wear t shirts. Not sure about the specifics, definitely reach out. You definitely won’t be barred from the feds, idk what state regs are state by state but I would guess in most it’s not a huge issue. Good luck man, LE is not something I’ve done but it’s awesome. You get to do it all there.
Regarding C19? At the federal level yes, so National Parks. For state level I don’t think so. Unless it’s a state requiring all state gov employees to get it.
State of New Mexico law enforcement ranger (boating) here. Tired of dealing with crazy mental people squatting in parks and crackheads. Trying to get out of enforcement and into forest management. Cant wait. Law enforcement gets old.
Power Rangers are incredibly important, and often the only person licensed to dispatch of nuisance bigfeet and Jackalope.
They are the cornerstone rangers tbh.
They’re cursed.
Thank you for watching my video, I hope it was informative and entertaining! I'm trying a lot of new things so I appreciate any feedback!
I’m going to be moving to Colorado so I most certainly want to work in the nature. I’m definitely considering any position to start off with I’m so excited. ❤
Going to college with a major in Park and Recreation management so thank you for breaking down the different job opportunities
Great info thanks for posting!
Thank you for this video, SUPER helpful.
Awesome video it's very informative i have been considering job's like these for a very long time but never knew the difference positions that are available and the descriptions of the job title's 😀
thank you for this video. growing up I've always loved history, nature, and folklore/mythology. At first I was planning to become an archaeologist, but how my life is got in the way of that. So I was considering if working as a ranger or similar job works as an alternative and going by your descriptions; it sounds like it'd also be something I'd enjoy.
This video really helps me figure out what kind of jobs I should be looking into. Thanks again. ^^
Haha didn’t really expect someone else in a similar position. Wanted badly to be an archaeologist but job prospects are not the best, now here I am looking at ranger positions
Same bruh ‼️
Dude thank you so much. This is one of the most informative videos I’ve came across for learning about rangers. Thank you again man
Thanks a lot for this video. I really love it! I am Brazilian but I live in Massachusetts and I have a dream to become a DCR ranger
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I’m glad you found it useful!
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My friend, all of here as TN State Park Rangers wear all of those hats and more pending the park that you are stationed at. Thanks for making vids to help educate folks. Best wishes and happy trails!
Hey, raised in Davidson County myself over here so I definitely love some Tennessee parks, must be a great place to work!
Love to see RecTechs getting the shine they deserve! Yeah, outside of District Ranger level management, the FS rarely uses the term Ranger and even more rarely the 0025 series, though there are a few. Realistically, if you wear green pants and a funny hat and interact with the public a lot, you’re a Ranger to 99% of people. I believe every badge in NPS says Ranger, even in fees collection, etc. Your videos are great man, I’m about to start my first permanent job as a RecTech and I’ve watched several of them.
Haha, I appreciate it, I’m a few years out from my Recreation days, but yeah, the Ranger title is wild. not sure the accuracy of this but I’ve been told that the title is legitimately just thrown in some non popular job title postings to get more applicants in the hiring. Recreations technician to get on the trails is the truth.
I was thinking on joining this field! I love the outdoors and it seems like a great profession!
Did you do it?
@@amberleroy8792 You're my first comment on this! But currently I am doing outdoor volunteering with a state program which is the first step!
i lost it at Power Ranger lol
Everybody has their reason for wanting the title haha.
Lol
When I think of forest ranger I’m talking about a ranger in the middle of no where with no towns city’s or anything for miles
So, depending on where you live, if that’s what you’re looking for then you can definitely get it by looking up the term forest ranger in your state (or being a park ranger for the FS or something). If you specifically are looking for being in the wilderness away from everyone a term I don’t go over here that could fit the bill is “Wilderness Ranger” that agencies offer in some locations. I got to work with one of them and the job seems awesome. They got to spend anywhere from a few days to over a week in the wilderness and that was their whole work week and they did a bit of permit checking but mostly conservation work out in the middle of nowhere. If you’re looking to be multiple days away from anybody else that’s definitely a good key word for job searching!
Great Video!! :)
I appreciate it and hope it was helpful!
Love love love this! Amaze!
I'm glad, thank you!
Still clueless but i now have a list of 3
Park, Forestry, Natural resources
One of my dreams would to be park law enforcement for a national park, my main issue is I live in eastern Nebraska.
Hey, so I looked at a map of public lands and state parks in Nebraska. There’s a ton of state land on the east side of the state, if you want to stay local, I can’t post links on comments but there’s a conservation officer job (your states version of a law enforce the ranger) through the Nebraska outdoors website with info on how to get started. People think of the NPS/ forest service for LE rangers but honestly the same jobs on all public land generally (and IMO NPS doesn’t even have all the most beautiful land necessarily). Hope this is helpful, follow your dreams haha!
very interested in becoming a wildlife/park ranger interpreter, I’m going to be at cal poly humboldt in august sooo, let’s complete that journey first x)
That sounds awesome! There are a lot of opportunities through California State Parks and all of the feds to do summer work (maybe even find part time work during school) that you should look into! Awesome state to get started in! Good luck!
@@ecologystorymode lots of great non-profits that can also help you get your foot in the GS door through those agencies as well. To the original commenter, I agree that it’s definitely worth getting some experience on your resume even if you’re getting the degree
Ranger is my dream job. I'm always out in Forest for fun, might as well get paid for it.
Rangerific 👍🏼
I like it!
are there photographer / videographer employment opportunities in the NPS?
i wanted to become a forester or park ranger but it looks like I gotta go to college for that.
Do you know of any outdoor careers that deal with preserving the wilderness and being around wildlife which doesnt require degrees
Im desiring a career thats got a mix of ecosystem restoration, restoring a more natural environment, getting a chance to see and be around wildlife and wild animals
Hey, so a couple of good news things, a lot of these jobs especially based on the type of agency you’re looking to get into don’t require a bachelors and generally there are paths to avoid going to school and hiring less competitively. The trick is learning what postings are available in the agencies that you should aim for and how find opportunities to make yourself look like a better candidate or get hiring statuses for government if you want to go that way(though you probably won’t need it most places). Most of the country looking into forestry Technician jobs and biological science technician jobs doesn’t require a degree for govy or private jobs. Outside of that a lot of agencies with a lot of land if you work as a ranger (BLM park ranger GS4, maybe a state agency depending on where you are) or a maintenance worker (majorly overlooked job), you’ll learn a lot of skills on the job and you’ll be able to apply those to any restoration or recreational or whatever other type of work. Hope this is kind of what you’re looking for, I have a few more videos on the topic.
I thought your Star Wars ruler was a big box leaned up against the couch. I was thinkin it must be like a box for a really nice replica lightsaber. Then you nudged the cup it was in and absolutely broke my brain.
Thank you there isn't a whole lot of info out there on this subject
No problem, I appreciate the comment and I'm glad this was helpful!
I think I wanna be a park ranger, i live in Tennessee and i quite like wildlife and the outdoors. What do you suggest i do as a highschool student to aid being a ranger when I can apply?
Hey, so I’m not 100% familiar with a lot of programs in your area (I lived in Davidson county when I was in middle school though haha); however, generally with park ranger jobs for more entry level they like seeing in interviews that you’re generally comfortable outdoors in rough terrain and can comfortably use tools or interact with people depending on the type of job. One really cool program that is good to look into is youth conservation corps which is a key term search on its own but the national park service has one as well as spots are available with the forest service I’m pretty sure which both are in your state. These from what I understand are residential summer programs mostly and would work really well for helping get a feel for the work out there and types of jobs. Outside of that any volunteer work you get in at a lot of agencies will be viewed the same as paid experience and so if you have any parks or restoration projects going on near you or conservation districts those are worth looking into. Hope this is a bit like what you’re looking for!
Can you be a full-time, year round interpretive park ranger? I don't really want to be a LEO Park Ranger unless I have to :(
What should I do if I would like to become a power ranger
I'd work as. A rander 4free just 2b in nature'
I am a senior at Sam Houston State University majoring in criminal justice. I really want to do law enforcement for the forest service at Sam Houston National Forest. I have looked at USA jobs and forest service out reach and I can't find any postings for jobs whatsoever for that type of position. Do you think they post more job listings in the spring and summer?
Hey, so wanting to do that kind of work is awesome and Texas is an awesome state to try to get involved. You have a few good options here: you can time your searches for the FS by googling "Forest Service Job Events" and looking for the calendar that they offer. You can also just do what's probably what will give you the deepest incite and literally just call the FS office for the forest and ask the person up front if you could ask one of the LE rangers if you could ask about the position (Probably a higher up will be in the actual station). The next option is looking at state options near you for things like Parks and Wildlife through the state. Those are just some of the ideas I'd have to really help up your odds. A lot of Fed LE starts off as seasonal and I'm not 100% on what all the opportunities are to increase your odds of a job so calling might be the #1 here. Hope this is helpful and good luck!
Don’t forget wilderness ranger!
Which ranger job could i apply for without a bachelors degree?
My dream is to be a ranger at a national park. How do I work my way up? What job position can I take where I’m in the woods all the time?
Hey, I appreciate the comment a lot and am sorry for responding so late. So as for a lot of parts of this I kind of have videos about it but within the next few weeks I wrote up an outline to kind of more directly answer these question with a video (they’re common on my channel). The first part of dreaming of being a park ranger is definitely understandable and common, most of all of their positions are uniformed and they work at a lot of really cool spots. However, if you’re looking to do ranger type work I’d definitely try to remain aware of the other agencies around you. State parks, forest service, fish wildlife, other feds, probably some county or land trust type areas that need the same kind of work done. To start out it really just depends on who you apply to. Most people start out with summer or winter seasonal jobs and transition into a full time from there but you can get lucky just applying to any full time spot. For fed work and NPS a really common route in is through conservation corps and getting a “public land corps” hiring status. However, I would definitely recommend looking at the hiring status video I made (but to self promote but it’s got a lot of useful tools for this). Mostly though, even where you live there’s ways to get involved. If you dream of working your way out to the Grand Canyon or something those are some good first steps. A bit all over the place, I hope this is helpful!
Glad to hear I don’t HAVE to be a police officer 😩
This is actually the reason I stepped away from applying to recreations when I was in college in New York(nowadays I’m glad that somebody can arrest some of these crazies on public land just not for me). Then I realized that you can just hike and make recreation more environmentally friendly which seems a lot more mellow haha.
I’m from Michigan, I’m an experienced bricklayer trying to change careers. What would you suggest a 23yo? I’d like to help wildlife rehab/forest rehab but I don’t know where to start. Any suggestions?
Hey man, you can volunteer or get a paid internships through non-profits like American Conservation Experience. And that experience counts towards applying to permanent, full time federal jobs (say you volunteer two temporary seasons with the FS either directly or through ACE at the GS-04 level, now you have a year of GS-04 experience so you can apply to the full time GS-05 jobs). Honestly though, I would say get a degree if it’s at all possible. You will go much farther in the land management agencies with one
Interesting and cool video.
Apparently a Park Ranger is also a Wilderness Ranger.
I applied for the County of Orange.
I always loved Nature, twenty one right now, hopefully I get the job.
Did you get it???
@DR HATER Nope. I think I need some volunteer work.
They probably don’t think I can do the job yet.
@@CM09575 keep on trying bro. You’ll get it next time
@DR HATER Ya, will see. Will try to get some volunteer work in, and see what happens.
I called them and they never got back to me. Might call again.
@@CM09575how did it go
I'm in a career switch and torn between which ranger path to take. Are there any resources who can help advise that?
Hmm, honestly, there are ranger job websites and stuff. The best resource though would be talking to somebody at the location or agency you hope to work for if you have that info. Unfortunately, work is going to be in a specific way 100% determined by where you are and actually notably different in every location within an agency let alone across them. This video was just to show the broad paths there are. Some jobs combine multiple of these, some are titled Ranger and completely different than this.
You missed a one. A army ranger in the 75th ranger regiment they are they best rangers
Are the NPS nurse positions?
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I wanna be a protection ranger
Hey Dan, Did you go to Paul Smiths?
Haha no I didn’t. I did do some of my schooling up in the north country though, great area and I love the VIC!
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So I'm not sure of you will see this but this is a job that I really want to do, and to be outside in nature rather behind a desk or counter. Do you have any advice for someone who is in NY and is wondering what the first step would be. Is there anyone you know who can help me out? Thanks.
Hey, sorry for the wait, I do try to reply to any emails that I get. Now in NYS your best bet is the DEC or DOA if what you're trying to do is stay in the state for general things, maybe looking at spots through cooperative extensions/ universities. I will say that it REALLY depends on your education plans and how much financial pressure you're under in life. www.dec.ny.gov/about/38596.html something here is a good place to start looking and how friends I went to school with started with the DEC (outside of civil service examinations). These jobs are top notch if you're in college and I believe don't require college to get into. If you're in high school or just out, look up the conservation corps near you and see if they'll help you get hired into one of the state program or give you public land corps (non competitive hiring for feds), some good websites for in NYS is Student Conservation Association and American Conservation Experience. You'll get paid potential decent even if it says volunteer, get educational rewards, and really open up if not doors then understanding of what the world of outdoors work holds. NYS is also one of the biggest homes of private environmental companies and Buffalo is not excluded in that(though it's not NYC haha) here's a list of job titles that can help you search indeed locally for non degree holding www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/jobs-that-help-the-environment-no-degree But yeah, I don't know your circumstances but this can hopefully help. Working outdoors, or with science is very different to other jobs out there and its an adjustment learning how to search and do resumes and all that but I'll definitely be making more vids on the topics coming up and hope this gives you a STARTING point on how to find stuff. Never be afraid to drop more questions or follow up on this, I hope to make a community where people can feel comfortable asking for just simple help. (BTW last little thought, if you live the idea of climbing stuff, running chainsaws, and dropping big trees occasionally consider arborist work haha)
I’ve worked with NPS so some of it might carry over to state stuff. First step is take is call up a place you’d like to work at and ask how they got to their position.
@@ecologystorymode ok thank you I will definitely do that 👍
@@I_H8_Celery Agreed, definitely an easy first step haha.
do you need a degree to be a park ranger? And if so what kind?
This is such a great video!!
I appreciate it, and it really depends on what kind of agency/ job you're looking at. If you want to get a NPS park guide spot or BLM Park ranger spot that starts out at GS3/GS4 in the feds then you can get in with just work experience. Also, if you have a year of relevant work experience doing outdoors work you can generally apply to any GS5 or higher position. I know a lot of people that never finished their bachelors and are fed rangers. A bachelors will allow you to get more spots though so its definitely useful and in some agencies (NPS from my understanding) much more common. If you look into your states recreations(or forestry depending on the state) department it really is different based on where you live. County rangers generally do super diverse work and don't need a bachelors from what I've seen. My most recent video is a hiring pathways video for the feds if you're interested (not just trying to self promote it might be relevant haha). It talks about thing you can do anywhere from 16+ years of age, during college, or after college to get started. Hope this helps!
Sorry, I completely blanked on giving degree types. Honestly, from what I've seen its very liberal as long as you take some natural resources/env/bio courses. Because of the range of jobs you can do anything from Environmental degrees to history, to language. Here's an example of an old posting that doesn't require a degree to start but if you want to get hired at a higher pay it kind of goes into it a bit. www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/557346800
@@ecologystorymode thank you so much for responding, this was super helpful
i’ll definitely check out that other video too
It’s either degree or experience on the applications. When it comes to hiring they want a degree in a related field such as biology, environmental science, or park management. Easiest jobs to get are student pathways positions, usually labeled as “student trainee (park guide, etc.). Also volunteer as much as you can to get some good connections and learn how to make a resume.
@@ecologystorymode bro out here with the good details we need fr 🙏🏼Good shit, idk why people are so vague about how to get into certain jobs. They don’t wanna share the sauce I guess smfh.
Is there an academy?
I recently looked into applying for a Park Ranger job but went through a party phase in my 20's where I did a variety of different drugs. Their drug policy goes back 10 years and I fear I would get rejected because of this. I currently use no illegal drugs and work a State Job as a Counselor at a psychiatric hospital. Should I even bother applying or what is your advice? Thanks. - Danny
Sounds like you’re looking into law enforcement ranger work at a specific agency. My best guess is depending on the size and how it works around you just calling and talking to a chief, if it’s LE or not there should always be a line for public in most agencies I’ve worked for. Other than that don’t stress too much, a couple options are talking to people in the agency you want to work for, I’ve had DRE instructors that have narcotics on their background so it’s not as bad as you’d think haha. If you need to wait look into non enforcement jobs with the agency while you wait to help get hired, maybe maintenance on public lands or something else where you can work outdoors and still be involved. Just some ideas, hope it helps!
Do they consider those who don’t have a bachelors degree? Just have an associates as of now.
Absolutely, the only thing is finding out what agency you’re trying to work for and setting your expectations realistically for wanting to enter without a bachelors degree. Usually you’ll be looking at starting off at a lower pay (with federal work there’s agencies that offer GS 3-4 spots to begin and depending on education/experience you can start higher. Other agencies county or something else can be really variable but I have some postings you can check for requirements in the description box). The term ranger is not a specific job and more a tag work used to make jobs more appealing than things like “customer service, maintenance, trail work, etc.” and you usually communicate to you that you’ll be working outdoors. But yeah, look into agencies that would interest you, look at the requirements for job postings or cold call an office (generally works better than you’d think with rec jobs). A lot of states an associates would probably be okay for a law enforcement ranger job too. Know this is a bit all over the place and hope something here is useful.
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Great video Just curious where you went to school in upstate New York I live 20 minutes east of Utica New York.
I went to Plattsburgh but I’ve worked between Texas, California, Oregon and Washington since then. Loved going to school there and learned a lot that got me ready for field work but never fully understood how the job part worked haha.
@@ecologystorymode lol I know Plattsburgh very well my brother and mother-in-law live 15-20 minutes north of Plattsburgh in Saranac
I'm near Buffalo NY lol
I am from Herkimer county!
@@jrod3301 I live in Herkimer county (Mohawk)
Most of the postings I've seen for interpretive rangers requires one to be bilingual, is this accurate?
So while that is common in certain areas with a lot of foreign speakers or translation of material. Interpretive work just means communicating something about the historical or natural world to the public. I’ve helped make educational signs on rivers and about plants/science as well as leave no trace informational videos for the parks program. Tons more just a bit of examples. Hope this helps!
Hey, just saw this again and wanted to add. If the postings you’re seeing are bilingual it’s also just a time of year thing. Unfortunately with the feds(you can find state/private jobs too) it’s hard to tell when positions are opening up. The most common advice I’ve heard is to set up a saved search on USAjobs. We are close to when a lot of jobs open up right now and it might be helpful. Also, look at specific agencies hiring events pages!
Are non-Americans allowed to do this work?
More info about power rangers please 😂
Which one pays better?
Most likely early on most places will pay the same. In a lot of cases law enforcement just makes more money due to the nature of the job. A job in a wilderness area that allows you to cross into fire at times will probably yield the highest early on because of how well fires can pay. They all are working towards similar late career goals though and will end up leading towards more general of management jobs that pay well generally.
@@ecologystorymode What will be a good masters degree to get and is the field on demand or too competitive?
Can I be a protection ranger and have tattoos? I have tattoos on both my arms, legs, back and front torso. Would this be a problem?
So this is probably a really agency/state specific thing and I would just call somebody from the agency you’re interested in or even just post on r/parkrangers. Generally though (very just my experience anecdotal) some places will have you wear long sleeves and some people’s supervisors don’t care and I’ve worked with people who have a sleeve and wear t shirts. Not sure about the specifics, definitely reach out. You definitely won’t be barred from the feds, idk what state regs are state by state but I would guess in most it’s not a huge issue. Good luck man, LE is not something I’ve done but it’s awesome. You get to do it all there.
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Do you have to be vaccinated to be a forrest ranger?
Regarding C19? At the federal level yes, so National Parks. For state level I don’t think so. Unless it’s a state requiring all state gov employees to get it.
Army rangers lead the way in battle
Bruh, i was here for the Army Rangers.
Haha, I mean, the military and paramilitary rangers of the US are the OGs so it’s my bad for not including them.
State of New Mexico law enforcement ranger (boating) here. Tired of dealing with crazy mental people squatting in parks and crackheads. Trying to get out of enforcement and into forest management. Cant wait. Law enforcement gets old.
Oof. Too old and poor to try make this dream come true. Looks like I’ll look at being a rogue instead.
I one someone wearing this out hiking I’m calling the actual rangers immediately
Forest ranger isn't a thing
Why are you making false statements? Forest Ranger is a thing. You can find many listings, but more for specific states, not federal
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