Mastering React Context: Do you NEED a state manager?

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  • čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
  • Context in React is a super valuable tool, but can it replace a state manager? Let's find out!
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    0:00 Introduction
    0:32 Project Setup
    1:14 Prop Drilling
    5:03 Context Using Prop Drilling
    9:21 Multiple Contexts
    10:38 Context Using useReducer
    13:45 When To NOT Use Context
    15:00 Context Versus State Managers
    17:18 State Management With Zustand
    22:13 Adding A Facade Layer
    24:19 Fine-Grained Updates
    25:38 Replacing Zustand With Context
    29:37 When Context Updates Components
    30:10 Context Using use-context-selector
    32:40 Referential Identity Matters
    35:03 Recommendations
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  • @justine_chang39
    @justine_chang39 Před 2 lety +110

    honestly this channel is probably the best out there for deep dives into Typescript and React, love your content good sir

    • @tomascarignano5002
      @tomascarignano5002 Před 2 lety +2

      Agree

    • @SterlingCobb
      @SterlingCobb Před 2 lety +2

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    • @BillBakerB
      @BillBakerB Před 2 lety +1

      Great team advice too, even you know the libraries already, "What is easier to review?" is a helpful perspective.

    • @hanmingzheng5592
      @hanmingzheng5592 Před 2 lety

      I was 2 videos and decide to subscribe. This channel got the real stuff compared to so many other CZcamsrs pretending to be professional developers.

    • @Gruby7C1h
      @Gruby7C1h Před 2 lety

      True, this channel deserves to be much bigger - lots of knowledge and very good production quality.

  • @thatboyneedstherapy
    @thatboyneedstherapy Před 2 lety +27

    For my money, when it comes to getting these concepts across in an accessible way that goes beyond the superficial while avoiding being mired down, you are absolutely unbeatable. It's a fine line but you walk it expertly!

  • @bythealphabet
    @bythealphabet Před 2 lety +20

    Love how you Made the comparison between Context and Zustand.
    I always use Context and didn’t see why I should consider other state management tools.
    Thank you Jack

  • @lucasishuman
    @lucasishuman Před 2 lety +6

    Incredibly clear and helpful demo. Please keep doing what you're doing. Your channel is by far the best I've found at showing both "the how" and "the why" of very specific and practical React + TypeScript in a very accessible way.

  • @danbacila5257
    @danbacila5257 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing content, I have been following the channel for a while now. As a Junior dev I can say that this channel motivates me to dive deeper into concepts and try them out on my own in a series of little projects.
    Keep up the good work and high quality content, Jack!

  • @tiennsloit
    @tiennsloit Před rokem +4

    I don't understand why youtube didn't recommend your channel to me earlier. This video is not only about mastering React context but also the way you refactor/repurpose the components for the use of context and other state managers. Thanks so much because I learn a lot from it.

  • @AmodeusR
    @AmodeusR Před 2 lety +2

    It's really neat how you go building the example structure till you get on the topic of the video instead of already showing everything done and and explaining. I really liked that :D

  • @siriusplayz5871
    @siriusplayz5871 Před rokem +3

    WOW! I mean really WOW... You are such a GREAT teacher. Teaching with examples and passing down all that precious knowledge with such an ease. Brilliant. I'm a fan. First video I watch on your channel and I'm subbed forever.
    I just started learning React 2 months ago and this helps a looootttttt.
    Thank you sooooo much man.
    I'll keep coming back for more knowledge as I need to get a job very soon, hopefully.

  • @mostafasaffari3878
    @mostafasaffari3878 Před 2 lety +3

    These series of mastering are amazing, Thank you very much man, I have learned lots of things from you and I owe you a lot :)

  • @fadehelix
    @fadehelix Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for this episode. In my personal ranking this is the best Context explanation I've ever seen

  • @viyicciyiv
    @viyicciyiv Před 7 měsíci +2

    Never really understood what context and Redux do, and you explain it so well with clear examples. Thank you!

  • @tabliqatchi6696
    @tabliqatchi6696 Před rokem +1

    Amazing video Jack, I really enjoy watching the way you write and talk about code. Your channel is absolutely phenomenal.

  • @Kahitar1
    @Kahitar1 Před rokem +1

    Insanely good video. Perfect level of detail and nice comparison between the different options. I learned a lot from this.

  • @ogreeni
    @ogreeni Před rokem +1

    Fantastic comprehensive overview! Love your videos Jack, been following you for a long time now.

  • @pendyaaa
    @pendyaaa Před 2 lety +1

    This is a really really awesome video. Way Way better than all those tutorial style videos which only is a regurgitation of documentation. This actually deepens my understanding and give me ability to judge new state management tools for myself

  • @shike769
    @shike769 Před 2 lety +1

    Watched 2 of your videos.
    great content, very informative and very well edited.
    Thanks a lot for the effort

  • @prathameshmali3888
    @prathameshmali3888 Před 2 lety +1

    The comparison is really good, especially with the profiler. Didn't know that context will make those many changes to the tree. Thank you Jack for the awesome video!

  • @noccer
    @noccer Před 2 lety +1

    Terrific video, and very topical for my team at the moment as it would happen. Thank you as always ☘

  • @AbdelhameedG
    @AbdelhameedG Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you, Jack, You have the best Front-end channel on YT. Keep it up.

  • @braingamedotcom
    @braingamedotcom Před rokem +1

    This is a high quality video with great content, something really refreshing on CZcams! Thank you very much 🙏

  • @universecode1101
    @universecode1101 Před 2 lety +22

    Mastering with the MASTER 🔥Every video is great, sometimes too much 😄, I mean I have seen the video even twice because you reach a high level, but with you Jack, I can improve my skills. Thanks ✌🏻

  • @tonyg_nerd
    @tonyg_nerd Před rokem +1

    There is a ton to digest here. Will be watching this many times. Thanks Jack!

  • @jacobgoldenstreet6246
    @jacobgoldenstreet6246 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow. Fantastic tutorial. Your teaching is very clear. Super helpful. Thanks!

  • @marksalsbery9826
    @marksalsbery9826 Před rokem

    Another great video….it’s amazing how many little things I learn mixed in with the major topic stuff. Thank you!
    Also, you are a great salesman for Copilot…the more I watch you write code the more I want it!

  • @olyvar
    @olyvar Před 9 měsíci

    So much great things covered in this video. Also a shout-out for passing the set state as a prop and using the callback to get the state value. I never thought of that before!

  • @stevebob240
    @stevebob240 Před 2 lety +1

    Exactly what I needed, still getting familiar with React and Next JS. Thanks!

  • @teerapatprommarak2070
    @teerapatprommarak2070 Před 2 lety +1

    This is really really GREAT content Jack, thank you!

  • @Kelz_369
    @Kelz_369 Před 2 lety +1

    Wowww 👏 this is the most thorough explanation on state management I've come across on yt. Definitely sub to this channel. Thanks!

  • @psychobuddha5379
    @psychobuddha5379 Před rokem

    I am pretty impressed with how easy and clearly he manages to explain these concepts... Zustand sounds pretty interesting, I am definitely gonna try it.

  • @marcelwopperer9776
    @marcelwopperer9776 Před 2 lety +2

    adding this facade layer is genious

  • @stefan9599
    @stefan9599 Před 2 lety +2

    Great content as always. Thank you Jack!

  • @haquocviet9253
    @haquocviet9253 Před 2 lety +2

    Great content and easy to understand. Thank you so much

  • @yassinebi337
    @yassinebi337 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, I’ve learnt a lot from your youtube channel, keep up the great work.
    Greeting from Morocco.

  • @tonystark4416
    @tonystark4416 Před rokem +1

    Thanks! This was really helpful, even though I probably need to rewatch and read the docs a couple of times still

  • @petarkolev6928
    @petarkolev6928 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for the wonderful video, Jack!
    I work in this industry for 5 years and yet I found all of your videos amazing and incredibly informative! All your videos are precious gems :)
    Only one thing I found a little bit hard to follow is the pace you go through your code in the editor. Personally, for me is a little bit hard to follow with that speed. May be for others is okay :)
    Thank you once again for the cool stuff you're showing to our fellow programmers :)

  • @okiirawan9578
    @okiirawan9578 Před 2 lety +2

    easy peasy lemon squeezy, thats the master said.
    Another very informative contents, so excited to watch your videos 🔥🔥🔥

  • @mistersir3185
    @mistersir3185 Před rokem +2

    Just when wet thought we don't deserve this a high quality educative content, you showed up and said we deserve it.

  • @igotbit9454
    @igotbit9454 Před 2 lety +1

    Love this channel!!!!!!!!!!!
    My go-to for React/JS stuff cause it covers more than just the basics which is what is needed in the real world env.
    Thx for the vids Jack!

    • @igotbit9454
      @igotbit9454 Před 2 lety

      PS. these days i'm using Apollo Cache/Reactive variables to pass state around instead of React Context but React context is great too.

  • @HeinekenLasse
    @HeinekenLasse Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video Jack, thanks for the effort

  • @parassharma7041
    @parassharma7041 Před rokem +1

    I'm new to your channel, loving your videos great content and thank you for teaching with great easy way 😀

  • @lancerdonnie
    @lancerdonnie Před 2 lety +1

    You really know your stuff. This is where I strive to be in the future

  • @Peter911
    @Peter911 Před 2 lety +1

    Best in depth explanation and for free woow you are amazing .. Thank you

  • @spirostsakoulis797
    @spirostsakoulis797 Před rokem +1

    Thank you so much for this great tutorial!

  • @garywaddell6309
    @garywaddell6309 Před rokem

    Hey Jack I have been watching video after video of yours. I am still in my deep dive of React and MFE's so would be curious if you had a video on managing State / Context via Module Federation, specifically around JWTs and how to control flow in MFEs for valid / invalid sessions. I'll keep looking through your library but this video along with every video you make is so informative. Thanks for publishing such amazing content!!

  • @orthostice
    @orthostice Před rokem +1

    I think this video changed my life. Well, my frontend architecture but same thing right now.

  • @1Malak16
    @1Malak16 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank You! Briliant as always.

  • @farzadmf
    @farzadmf Před 2 lety +1

    VERY GOOD explanation, thank you!

  • @sumitwadhwa8823
    @sumitwadhwa8823 Před 2 lety +1

    Even some of the paid content out there is not as impressive as your content sir. Thank you so much.

  • @javierjrueda1722
    @javierjrueda1722 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this video. Really useful.

  • @krazymeanie
    @krazymeanie Před 2 lety +1

    Bruh this channel is a blessing

  • @olabiranjoshua2860
    @olabiranjoshua2860 Před 2 lety +1

    This is such a rich content. Thanks for this Jack 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @tarek_maza
    @tarek_maza Před rokem +1

    An awesome resource for understanding state management in React!

  • @JamesBond-mc7kl
    @JamesBond-mc7kl Před rokem +1

    I just start career in React js and found the great video that is helpful for me

  • @AwakeningofAI
    @AwakeningofAI Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you very much, sir. Great content.

  • @hamedmatari2577
    @hamedmatari2577 Před rokem +1

    Finally I got the answer of this famous question, what is difference between redux and context. Your channel was always the best. I guess every body can find their question's answer in your channel. good to have you jack🤩

  • @eleah2665
    @eleah2665 Před 2 lety +1

    The University of React State is back in session! Thanks Jack. I will want to get Mr. Kato's book.

  • @bielgaucho_real
    @bielgaucho_real Před 2 lety +4

    I always asked why people use redux for everything, while they could achieve the same with context or simpler state management libs. This video is proof of it. Unfortunately using context takes a lot of care to avoid re-renders, but zustand demonstrate it can look simple and do the job.

    • @jherr
      @jherr  Před 2 lety +4

      Just remember to make sure you use selectors with your zustand hook. :)

  • @rdubb77
    @rdubb77 Před rokem

    In the dark and dangerous world of React over complexity you are beacon of understanding and hope

  • @chrisprenn
    @chrisprenn Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video thank you so much!

  • @ninabohm1535
    @ninabohm1535 Před 4 měsíci

    Thanks Jack, very helpful!

  • @hristoenev6733
    @hristoenev6733 Před 2 lety +1

    Really good content! Thank you.

  • @mateuszkulesza8528
    @mateuszkulesza8528 Před rokem +1

    Great video, Zustand looks very promising

  • @prabhatsachdeva7747
    @prabhatsachdeva7747 Před 2 lety +1

    LOVING THIS MASTR SERIES 🖤

  • @armandsalle8447
    @armandsalle8447 Před 2 lety +1

    Really nice video! Thank you 🤯

  • @trenthm
    @trenthm Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! Very educational

  • @BensTechLab
    @BensTechLab Před 2 lety +1

    Let me just say what no one else notices… your video lighting and green screen setup is superb! 🙌 As a video guy I know this takes a bit of a setup/tweaking to get such a clean key without green spill around you.

    • @jherr
      @jherr  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks. I've been working on it and improving it over time. I think the most recent videos have been pretty solid.

  • @eddiedotdev
    @eddiedotdev Před rokem +1

    What's funny to me is that I see this video after seeing the newer "Do you NEED context?" videos :D

  • @sergeitinc
    @sergeitinc Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so mush Jack!

  • @karnellschultz6446
    @karnellschultz6446 Před 2 lety +1

    Great stuff as always

  • @sumanth3036
    @sumanth3036 Před 2 lety +1

    You just dont stop at a superficial layer. Thanks a ton!!!!

  • @heangly7449
    @heangly7449 Před rokem +1

    Jack, you are so amazing. I would be so happy if you can create full stack web development course. I am sure many people (including me) are willing to pay for your course.

  • @wisdomcube7789
    @wisdomcube7789 Před 2 lety +1

    Happy Valentines Day... also great content as always, thank you

  • @apresthus87
    @apresthus87 Před 2 lety

    I used to use Redux (Redux toolkit to be precise) and it's still used for one of my active projects but in my latest project where I created my own CMS from scratch I used purely React Context for local state management and it was a very good experience. It's not like I dislike Redux toolkit (which is a pretty big upgrade on regular Redux imo when it comes to dev experience), but it was really nice to not have to put in a ton of dev time for the project on just state management.

  • @harvenius
    @harvenius Před 2 lety

    Your office environment is amazing.

  • @zoaybk
    @zoaybk Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing 🔥🔥🔥 thanks, as always

  • @sarthak1317
    @sarthak1317 Před 5 měsíci

    thanks for the ecommerce example, adding it to the project section in my resume. A full fledged ecommerce app with login logout and add to cart functionality 😎

  • @ounicohenrique
    @ounicohenrique Před 2 lety +1

    Great video, thanks.

  • @juanpasten6077
    @juanpasten6077 Před rokem

    Thanks so much for create and share

  • @erindhoxha8607
    @erindhoxha8607 Před 2 lety

    Hi Jack, thanks for the great video, I've learned a ton.
    I have never heard of Zustand before and it seems very interesting for my future projects.
    Would you use it instead of redux?

  • @Tarabass
    @Tarabass Před rokem +1

    You did it again. I'm a developer for decades now and to be honest, I'm getting very annoyed by all those wanna be's out there.
    I'm trying to level up my knowledge about react (although I hate it) and every ninja is telling you to use context for global state. My guts feeling told me that is not a good idea. I don't want to rerender everything to update some fields. I even think that prop drilling is better.
    I follow your channel for a long time now and I'm glad you gave me the answers I was looking for. In a decent and professional way with proper knowledge and terminology. Thank you!

  • @user-kt5jw2cd7e
    @user-kt5jw2cd7e Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Jack

  • @vijitail1979
    @vijitail1979 Před rokem

    Hey Jack, great explanation as always! Just curious to know that when you used use-context-selector, why did the wrapper re-render?

  • @tombyrer1808
    @tombyrer1808 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the deep but not too deep dive in the various state managers; will help my on my next project!
    Also thanks for the chapters. :)

  • @jakemetz1742
    @jakemetz1742 Před rokem +1

    Always amazing content that’s prepared so well.
    Curious, what tools you use to make your videos?
    Would love to dem to my team in the same format

    • @jherr
      @jherr  Před rokem +1

      I use ScreenFlow to capture the screen. If I drew on the screen then I was using ScreenBrush and a commodity Gaomon drawing tablet. And then for post production I use the Adobe Suite. Honestly through, in most cases you could get by the just using ScreeFlow and a decent microphone.

  • @doriandoussain1528
    @doriandoussain1528 Před rokem +1

    My nextjs mentor, thx man

  • @pHBonheur
    @pHBonheur Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video! You are super enthusiastic when you speak, making your videos so great to watch.
    - @Jack What zsh extensions/setup do you use? Your auto completion and theme look really great! 👌

    • @jherr
      @jherr  Před 2 lety

      Fig. Thanks for watching!

  • @GusGabriel
    @GusGabriel Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing!!!

  • @maksym7279
    @maksym7279 Před 2 lety +1

    Great! Thanks!

  • @tahamanna3600
    @tahamanna3600 Před 6 měsíci +1

    great video!

  • @mwaqze
    @mwaqze Před 2 lety +2

    Hello Jack, it's great to watch videos on react hooks mastery. Can you create a playlist with the title "React Mastering" with all the videos related to React Mastery please? That'll be really helpful. Thank you.

  • @thefonsotube
    @thefonsotube Před rokem

    Great content sir! Do you have a video comparing Zustand and Redux Toolkit?

  • @Mostafaabobakr7
    @Mostafaabobakr7 Před 2 lety +3

    I love your channel

  • @jp0678
    @jp0678 Před 2 lety +2

    While I'm kind of already familiar with this concept, I still learn some new stuff here and there when you explained it. Thanks!
    By the way, what extension do you use for that autocomplete?

    • @jherr
      @jherr  Před 2 lety

      GitHub Copilot.

    • @jp0678
      @jp0678 Před 2 lety

      @@jherr Oh, I see. Thank you!

  • @Luxcium
    @Luxcium Před rokem +2

    I have kind of learned HTML a thousand times over the years and skipped it because JS and CSS where so cool but HTML is so basic it is thought only to beginners I think you are the perfect person to teach us (i.e. We already know * "Hypertext" refers to links that connect web pages to one another, either within a single website or between websites*) you must do an HTML tutorial for people who knows the basics and give us the advanced tools to master HTML in the context of React and with the minimal CSS or styling possible for it to be interesting but focusing only on HTML (in the context of React probably)… 😅😅😅😅 I would love to get my HTML certification 😉😌😜

  • @kashnigahbaruda
    @kashnigahbaruda Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks!

  • @ivuga1800
    @ivuga1800 Před rokem

    Thank you for the video! Where I can get same syntax highlighting?

  • @user-fx9pp2qi3q
    @user-fx9pp2qi3q Před 6 měsíci

    one reason I favour the state managers over the context api is that you can access your state even outside your react components and sometimes thats a requirement. not sure if you can do something like.
    import contextApi from 'mycontextapi';
    contextApi.value ... etc.

    • @jherr
      @jherr  Před 6 měsíci

      You are correct. Making the data in the context available externally would be something you would have to implement. But there is `useSyncExternalStore` that you might want to look into. It's designed specifically to connect React components to external state managers. So if something off the shelf doesn't fit your needs there is that.

  • @korkmazsalim
    @korkmazsalim Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks Jack great content . Btw is there a solution in zustand for creating state slices and naming them so when project gets bigger we can inspect them by redux toolkit with the slice names ? ( i can combine at store but they are spreaded in toolkit).Thank you..

    • @jherr
      @jherr  Před 2 lety +2

      You make multiple stores. I think that's the basic idea. One store per, what you would categorize as a "slice".

  • @elwoseopenstepcrew1134
    @elwoseopenstepcrew1134 Před rokem +1

    amazing content

  • @aakankshathakre
    @aakankshathakre Před 2 lety

    hi Sir, Can you please help to use Profiler. I have got the extension in the browser, but am unable to see a view like yours, where components are highlighted.