This is if you want to avoid this. You can also just come back and fix this. FYI I did not do the cabinets or the stone top. Have at it in the comments
Id delete this vid if I were you. I just checked ya other vids, and this one kills it for all the rest cause blaming homeowner for this is the worst example of when homeowners choices go wrong. Ultimately looks bad on your biz here. Even if ya are trolling.
But in the video you clearly recommend waiting 8 months for the cabinet to settle in. Implying you have seen this before, therefore by deduction avoid this guy and any company he's associated with and you may have a better experience.
This was the dumbest fucking shit I ever heard or seen not to late to delete this u bunch of clowns. I'll be putting you on do not recommend now goodbye.
😆 I agree no1 wants to wait that long lol But New* Construction does affect things differently then remodels do so sometimes it is best advised. I have seen a handful of people wait on the backsplash bc of similar reasons. In the finish carpentry world you can see the affects of the house settling etc. down the road. Kinda stinks when u put the work in to make everything as tight & pretty as possible! Having the painters come back & caulk again after a year or so is what I recommend to them
Even if it was a kitchen remodel. What do you tell your clients, it will take 6-8 months to remodel your kitchen? You might as well move out at that rate.
Because y'all don't care cuz your clearly not smart enough to listen.. it wud be a plain white (or whatever color) wall with a plexiglass temporary back splash over painted wall.. it's more than just that settling.. it's not that big of a deal . But ya Kno home owners don't listen cuz they wanna show off I get it ..
Translation: I know you just built an entire house and you want to enjoy your investment but I don't know how to do my job so I'm going to take to social media to complain and try to avoid responsibility for my laziness.
@@justfacts4387 No the counter dropped but any contractor worth their salt knows that. Put it in flush, let the counter drop, caulk it. Not hard. You just have to communicate with the homeowner on what to expect with a new house and follow up in six months to fix everything you missed and they've found while living there. Why would you finish a house out, let the homeowner move in and then come back six months later just to booger up the work you've already got done?
Working for a countertop company for 15 years this is absolutely correct. Time and time.again people would scream that there cou tattoo is off level because the splash separated. It is recommended to wait to do the BS becaue stone weighs hundreds/thousands of pounds. People do not get this.
Me as well.. if I had to wait 6 months before installing a kitchen backsplash we would never anything done . This shows a bigger issue with the builder .....
Also you always always always caulk to different materials together . Never grout . Looks like grout was used first.. if this was caulked at the first place this would not have been an issue
Your talking about waiting 6 months without a backslash meanwhile taking on possible water damage when the fix (if required) is just caulking. Lmao. Wtf ever.
I install kitchen cabinets for a living, this is utter BS, cabinets don't settle. The wood may expand or contract a little, but if the cabinets sit in the house for a day before installing they acclimate to the houses tempurature.
I've done many kitchens, tops, cabinets, backsplash etc. Never heard of settling in. This is NOT wood floors lol. I've never had to do this and I just finished a kitchen project and I did my home about 6 years ago and no issues so far.
@@MKRM27 What nonsense he says, what should I use to take so much time.... some kitchen tiles. I will not let him do my bathroom, I do not wait a year for him to settle down enough for his excuses to end.
As a man who installed cabinets, templated, fabricated, installed and repaired natural stone and some other types of countertops(like Silestone, Viaterra, and Vitrazzo to name a few) for 15 years, I PARTLY agree. 3cm granite can weigh as much as 30 lbs per square foot(for something like iron red/Vulcan techanite or a Galaxy Black/Absolute black). Also, some stone soaks up water(which SHOULD be used during fabrication/polish/buff) far more than what one would think a stone could, both making the physical act of installation more difficult and sealing impossible. If stone is installed before dry (a BAD idea) that weight is even higher. I said PARTLY agree, because it's YOUR job to tell the customer they will void any guarantee or warranty offered by your company(which EVERY company SHOULD, SPECIFICALLY for installation) by not waiting for backslash install. Yes, installation later is an inconvenience, but it's YOUR job to tell them you will not guarantee any work done if they do not do as you say. That's customer relations 101, come on man. Be a man and tell them what to do, don't recommend. If they won't listen to you, walk away. It will cause more issues that make dealing with it on the back end NOT worth it.
I’m a fourth generation cabinet maker. I agree on waiting 3-4 days for glue to cure But Cabinets only settle because guys use shims. The weight of the front edge eventually presses into the shim. Use solid blocks of wood or scribe the toekick to the floor.
6 to 8 months! That's ridiculous, if you're going to install a backsplash you're supposed to wait 3-5 years after the remodel, that way the entire house settles, not just the cabinets, amateurs.
I would do the same as the customer. Just give the customer the disclaimer that this will happen and everyone is happy. That's a long wait for a backsplash.
Rather than pointing blame just take care of it. I've been doing tiling for over 40 years and always tell my clients after we get one change in the season please feel free to give me a call due to possible movement!
I’m an electrician and I’m here for every step of the home building process. Asking people to wait 8 months?!? To move into a house they are waiting for over a year to move into? Not to mention the backsplash needs to be done for the kitchen receptacles to be installed… doesn’t seem like a big deal to fix to throw this much of a fit over
Wait 6-8 months? Do you really think, it is smart advice to live in a new house for 6 months without backsplash? Do ‘t you think that it is much easier to do what you are doing now in this window? Common sense is a good thing :) But I think you did this non sense video for that purpose, you wanted people to comment on it, just like I’m doing now :)
6 months?! Has any client ever waited that long? I feel like that’s excessive, I’ve been a part of a lot of home renovations and we’ve never done that. Usually it’s done within the same week.
No. You can do your cabinets AND put your backsplash on, you just have to wait for the caulking, or (like this case) expect to redo it in 6 or so months. I'd go the second route, caulk is plenty cheap enough and it'll prevent water damage on the backside of the cabinets if there is a spill or something like that.
FYI & imo……. Any “grout” that is not 100% silicone; will be a siliconized grout; which can crack, etc….as others do (like sanded/unsanded silicone grout caulk….. not 100% silicone caulk for showers/tubs and over time can crack & chip out.). Not a fan of using any sanded/unsanded siliconized latex grout caulk for a job (unless ya gotta for the “100% material/colour match” or can’t get correct silicone caulk for job, as does happen and things gotta stay on some kind of schedule), & prefer 100% silicone that’s same brand as materials used in process of tile install (as every brand has them)…..& as Sal pointed out in his great silicone vs video for shower caulking….silicone way to go 👍🏻✌🏻
I think the key here is he stated that he “strongly advised the homeowner NOT to do the backsplash so early.” He also said he was already there to do the job. But, he was willing to delay the work and delay getting paid, in the homeowners best interest to avoid a problem he knew could happen by doing it too soon. Can’t fault the backsplash guy for that!
Fact! People make a big mistake siliconing baths empty, yes empty once it's full it pulls away. Top tip! Fill the bath with cold water then silicone leave to dry , empty water, job done that'll last.
Just acclimate the cabinets first, they didn't "settle in" they dried out in the low humidity conditions of the house. This is usually easy to accomplish with the 1-2 week or better lead time for the counter tops to be measured and fabricated. 6-8 months is an insane joke. You probably used the wrong caulk.
I’ve never heard of this. If the floor and units are solid, nothing should move more than 2mm at most and the silicon would hold. I’ve never heard of this. The base units are solid. They don’t flex or settle
This actually has an easy fix. Use color match siliconized grout caulk. I use where tile meet any non tile surface. It’s more professional look every time. Pro tip: tape both counter and tile for straight caulk edge.
A renovation will never wait 6 months for cabinets to settle, that's insane. You either use good cabinet installers, a better caulking grout, or go back and fix your mistake.
Home owners and contractors KNOW projects never work out on TIME or budget. The correct way is to use high performance caulking on the bottom seat. Never use grout between counter and backsplash.
No one is going to wait 6-8 months, during a renovation. What you should do is don't place blame & account for a return trip, in your original price. 🤗
People seem to not understand these days that houses actually do MOVE. Your entire house can be off. Build the house to code in a high humidity climate. Go back 6 months later and I can almost guarantee every single wall would be off by atleast 1-2 degrees. Than go back 20 years later and see what's changed lmfao
NEVER Publicly say something was “all your customers fault”! The customer is always right can be taken literally or as a concept acknowledging that a service provider must adhere to decency, REGARDLESS of blame of a customer. I certainly would never have you install anything in my house.
The entitlement in the comments. Sucking up a few months with a solid color wall is not a big deal. I get it, you just moved etc. but seriously you want it done well once no? I appreciate this persons insight.
Yeah, that makes sense. Everyone i know leaves there kitchen alone for 6 to 8 months before installing a back splash. We do the same thing afyer framing too, just leave the house alone for a half a year to adjust to settling.
6-8 months is not practical for most people. If you make the seam with the correct compound that has flexibility there’s no need to wait that long. Doing nothing for that long would also cause other issues.
So if I build a house, which takes them 6-8 months to build, I need to wait another 6-8 months to install splash back. 😂 Thank God they did an awesome job with mine and there are no issues with them on our build.
No one, I repeat no one is going to build a house then wait 6 to 8 months to put a back splash on. If you can't figure out what to use for caulking, that isn't the home owners fault.
Wow! I'm going to have dozens of callbacks. I guess I better clear my schedule for the next year. Since it's "the homeowners fault" I should get paid for all of these fixes I'll have to do. What a great way to make some extra cash!
Another 6 months go by. It’s all this home owners fault, if they would of waited 12 months like we suggested, they wouldn’t be in this position replacing 6 dollar caulk again. Told them wait on the trim to settle in the living room.
I'm a kitchen fitter and have tiled countless kitchens - cabinets 'settling' after 6-8months is some absolute nonsense. Job done badly from day one is why problems arose
“Wait 6-8 months for the kitchen cabinets to settle in” On what planet will they do that?? What you really need to do is call the cabinet installer and tell him to stop using soft cedar shims under the base cabinets. He can make fir shims from scrap 2X lumber and probably fix this problem on future builds. Also it looks like you failed to completely fill the gap with caulking. You need to use a trowel to press the bead all the way into the joint. Probably need twice as much caulk as you applied.
My parents did their back splash after their cabinets were installed. My father having his own construction company said he has never heard of cabinets settling and he hasnt had the issue in the entire 3 years of the backsplash and cabinets heing put in....
I’ve remodeled several homes now and I’ve never heard of this 😂😂😂😂 way to blame it on your clients. I hope they read the comments here and see y’all hosed them.
"Settle in"....? I've been in the industry for 40 years. Dirt settles, log cabinet construction with green logs settle as the logs dry. I've never heard of this cabinet 'settle in' mith.... .
I sell kitchens for a living, we'll sell splashbacks/backboards, be it quartz, metallic, glass or MDF, the fitters do it straight away, never had any feedback regarding separation. My guess is the feet just aren't strong enough and/or the units are fastened to the wall
You can use a silicone that flexes. Had you used enough it would have absorbed the settling. Done it plenty of times and never had an issue. Stop blaming others.
As a kitchen guy, I’m not entirely sure the statement is accurate. Maybe I could just blame the flooring guy, should I have waited for him to put the floor in so it’s settled before I put my cabinets in?
Oh sh*t thats right. You wait 6 month for the flooring to settle before you install cabinets, then wait a few days for counter tops to be installed because the cabinets settled as well . The home owners should know that .. lol
Customer - "Your tile job isn't aligned properly, I've got a cracked seam against the countertops, would you mind?" This guy - "this is all your fault, you rushed us to do a job I committed to."
If the cabinetry or the countertop settles your joists are not engineered to handle the weight. There should not be any settling at all with new cabinetry.
Everyone I see pulls their caulk gun - push it with the right angle and a straight cut tip. Takes a little practice but you save TONS of caulk, way less clean up, and you don’t even have to drag your finger over it.
This is if you want to avoid this. You can also just come back and fix this. FYI I did not do the cabinets or the stone top. Have at it in the comments
Id delete this vid if I were you. I just checked ya other vids, and this one kills it for all the rest cause blaming homeowner for this is the worst example of when homeowners choices go wrong. Ultimately looks bad on your biz here. Even if ya are trolling.
Yep your other videos are good. Nobody is going to wait 6 months house builders or clients.
Or just get you mugs to come do it for $20 when it fails instead of waiting for 6-8 months like fools
But in the video you clearly recommend waiting 8 months for the cabinet to settle in. Implying you have seen this before, therefore by deduction avoid this guy and any company he's associated with and you may have a better experience.
This was the dumbest fucking shit I ever heard or seen not to late to delete this u bunch of clowns. I'll be putting you on do not recommend now goodbye.
I’ve been fitting kitchens for 16-17 years and I’ve never heard of kitchen cupboards settling in 😂 you just did a shit job first time round.
Dead set, I've built alot of kitchens with slate tops and all sorts heavy shit. They don't "settle" if your not a shit builder 😂
Yeah, been in the business for 40 years. I can't believe he's trying to sell this line of shit, what a dick.
Yes!! 💯 %
This installer is a clown, no one does this cause it's not needed.
Bingo
"It's all the home owners fault" - What an absurd way to promote your business. Highly uncalled for.
The home owner should take this video and blast the company for be a bunch of whiney bums and advise others not to use them.
Most customers are stupid af.
@@Mikey-ym6ok You are a customer too.
@@Xfhcgnjffhjmjvfg exactly. I’m stupid af too.
@No Name then it’s a good thing he’s not promoting his business. He’s promoting you wait 6 months for a backsplash.
It’s literally 8 dollars worth of caulking. Who would wait 6 months to save 8 dollars 😂
Lol seriously. What a stupid “fix”
Exactly, if they waited and water seeped into the back of the cabinets and it molded it would have costed them a lot morw
If it is a grout like silicone caulk double the price. Grey caulk you're right, but I'll never grout at the counter. Staining etc that may occur.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I literally did my counter cabinets and backsplash by myself in the same week… my backsplash is fine 7 years later…
Do a better job
Exactly. Who tf would wait 8 months to finish their Reno 🤣 clown
@@asseater1895 With the name ass eater I don’t think you should be calling anyone a clown
😆 I agree no1 wants to wait that long lol But New* Construction does affect things differently then remodels do so sometimes it is best advised. I have seen a handful of people wait on the backsplash bc of similar reasons. In the finish carpentry world you can see the affects of the house settling etc. down the road. Kinda stinks when u put the work in to make everything as tight & pretty as possible! Having the painters come back & caulk again after a year or so is what I recommend to them
@@thatsreality5184 I built my house myself… from foundation to electric plumbing and roof… they didn’t do a good job… period..
Yea If I just bought a house, and had new cabinets and countertops, I don’t think I would wait 6-8 months without backsplash!
Waiting 6-8 months is a completely unreasonable response.
Yeah lol
Even if it was a kitchen remodel. What do you tell your clients, it will take 6-8 months to remodel your kitchen? You might as well move out at that rate.
Because y'all don't care cuz your clearly not smart enough to listen.. it wud be a plain white (or whatever color) wall with a plexiglass temporary back splash over painted wall.. it's more than just that settling.. it's not that big of a deal . But ya Kno home owners don't listen cuz they wanna show off I get it ..
No one would do that. Are these guy tradesmen or handymen?
Translation: I know you just built an entire house and you want to enjoy your investment but I don't know how to do my job so I'm going to take to social media to complain and try to avoid responsibility for my laziness.
So are you saying the tile is moving? When you put that much weight into a new build, or even existing there will be settling. Don’t be dumb
@@justfacts4387 No the counter dropped but any contractor worth their salt knows that. Put it in flush, let the counter drop, caulk it. Not hard. You just have to communicate with the homeowner on what to expect with a new house and follow up in six months to fix everything you missed and they've found while living there. Why would you finish a house out, let the homeowner move in and then come back six months later just to booger up the work you've already got done?
Exactly
Working for a countertop company for 15 years this is absolutely correct. Time and time.again people would scream that there cou tattoo is off level because the splash separated. It is recommended to wait to do the BS becaue stone weighs hundreds/thousands of pounds. People do not get this.
@@jarrodnunley1105 Love when you read comments and can tell the people who have existed past their desk chairs
This man is the greatest example of the saying “fake it till you make it” and it shows!
I agree with you 100% Some of his videos are cringeworthy.
If the cabinets were installed properly they wouldn’t “settle”
I’ve never heard anyone say that cabinets settle!
I've installed thousands of cabinets and I have never heard of Cabinets settling.
Yeah this is what happens when someone buys a truck and tool bag and thinks they are a tradesmen.
Me as well.. if I had to wait 6 months before installing a kitchen backsplash we would never anything done . This shows a bigger issue with the builder .....
Also you always always always caulk to different materials together . Never grout . Looks like grout was used first.. if this was caulked at the first place this would not have been an issue
@@lordthunderchicken4636 only the descendants of the great dwarf miners can be selected for tradesmen academy, not just any ole schmo!
Your talking about waiting 6 months without a backslash meanwhile taking on possible water damage when the fix (if required) is just caulking. Lmao. Wtf ever.
Exactly
Weird af isn't it!?
As a builder, this guy is full of shit.
@@thally4061 i’m actually the builder king. If they did it right he wouldn’t have to waste his caulk.
Ironic isn’t it? Lol
From my dealings with contractors, "all the home owners fault" is a pretty typical response when anything goes wrong.
I install kitchen cabinets for a living, this is utter BS, cabinets don't settle. The wood may expand or contract a little, but if the cabinets sit in the house for a day before installing they acclimate to the houses tempurature.
This guy... I've been in the trades 25 years, never have this problem... no accountability...
So by that logic every house will take 3 years to build to “settle”, nice coverup
16 years as a carpenter and I’ve never heard anyone tell a customer they need to let the cabinets settle in hahaha!!!
I've done many kitchens, tops, cabinets, backsplash etc.
Never heard of settling in. This is NOT wood floors lol.
I've never had to do this and I just finished a kitchen project and I did my home about 6 years ago and no issues so far.
Building a house takes long enough, imagine wasting more than 1/2 a year just waiting to put backsplash in😂
No, I can’t imagine waiting that long.This is just a stupid excuse from the contractor
@@MKRM27 What nonsense he says, what should I use to take so much time.... some kitchen tiles. I will not let him do my bathroom, I do not wait a year for him to settle down enough for his excuses to end.
That’s even if you can get these jackassess to come back or on the phone once they’re gone
How about the foundation, did you wait 6 months for it to "settle" since it weighs like 100,000 pounds. No. Ok
Bro, you used the wrong caulking.
Fr fr guy is an idiot.
No. It happens every time. The stone tops will press that wood frame and self level.
@MegaSkilla ur a home owner not a tradesman u know nothing lmao stop acting like u know everything cause u paid someone to fix up ur hosue
@MegaSkilla facts the countertop in my house is granite and has never had this issue.
@@jiggatoni4082 sounds like you don’t know shit I hope you don’t do building
As a man who installed cabinets, templated, fabricated, installed and repaired natural stone and some other types of countertops(like Silestone, Viaterra, and Vitrazzo to name a few) for 15 years, I PARTLY agree. 3cm granite can weigh as much as 30 lbs per square foot(for something like iron red/Vulcan techanite or a Galaxy Black/Absolute black). Also, some stone soaks up water(which SHOULD be used during fabrication/polish/buff) far more than what one would think a stone could, both making the physical act of installation more difficult and sealing impossible. If stone is installed before dry (a BAD idea) that weight is even higher. I said PARTLY agree, because it's YOUR job to tell the customer they will void any guarantee or warranty offered by your company(which EVERY company SHOULD, SPECIFICALLY for installation) by not waiting for backslash install. Yes, installation later is an inconvenience, but it's YOUR job to tell them you will not guarantee any work done if they do not do as you say. That's customer relations 101, come on man. Be a man and tell them what to do, don't recommend. If they won't listen to you, walk away. It will cause more issues that make dealing with it on the back end NOT worth it.
Wait 8 months, or replace seam with caulking when it does separate. 🤔 I’ll go with the caulking option.
You don’t really give out this dumb advice I hope
Cabinets don’t settle!!!! They are screwed into place!! Lmao wow!
No they do settle. Bathroom vanities and countertops. I'm guessing the weight compresses the wood. I've seen it happen a lot.
@@anthonyrodrigues5032Wood compression? Wrong guess bub, that happens when you don't properly shim your cabinents.
@The Russian Guy or they're crappy cabinets?
I’m a fourth generation cabinet maker. I agree on waiting 3-4 days for glue to cure
But
Cabinets only settle because guys use shims. The weight of the front edge eventually presses into the shim.
Use solid blocks of wood or scribe the toekick to the floor.
6 to 8 months! That's ridiculous, if you're going to install a backsplash you're supposed to wait 3-5 years after the remodel, that way the entire house settles, not just the cabinets, amateurs.
Also, wait at least 6 months for the walls to settle before you hang lamps...
And don’t forget to wait 6 months for your floor to settle before walking on it either
Lamps? You mean light fixture?
Never heard of cabinets settling in before....doing trades for over 10 years. which included cabinet installs and that's a new one to me lol.
Yup lol
Lol
I have. Been doing granite countertops for 20 years. They do.
@@croach69 but for 6 months ? Lol
@Pokemon Trainer maybe a couple weeks. The guy is not wrong. It happens. All the shims and silicone doesnt stop gravity.
Lol....
"Please live in a construction site for 6 months in order to prevent having to recaulk a 10 foot strip."🤣
I would do the same as the customer. Just give the customer the disclaimer that this will happen and everyone is happy. That's a long wait for a backsplash.
6 months waiting? What?
Hah it's the customer fault
Easy fix.. why argue about it with the client.
Rather than pointing blame just take care of it. I've been doing tiling for over 40 years and always tell my clients after we get one change in the season please feel free to give me a call due to possible movement!
I’m an electrician and I’m here for every step of the home building process. Asking people to wait 8 months?!? To move into a house they are waiting for over a year to move into? Not to mention the backsplash needs to be done for the kitchen receptacles to be installed… doesn’t seem like a big deal to fix to throw this much of a fit over
Wait 6-8 months? Do you really think, it is smart advice to live in a new house for 6 months without backsplash? Do ‘t you think that it is much easier to do what you are doing now in this window? Common sense is a good thing :)
But I think you did this non sense video for that purpose, you wanted people to comment on it, just like I’m doing now :)
Why did he even take the job if he knew it was gonna fail due to “the homeowner being in a hurry” ?! This guy is full of it
6 months?! Has any client ever waited that long? I feel like that’s excessive, I’ve been a part of a lot of home renovations and we’ve never done that. Usually it’s done within the same week.
No. You can do your cabinets AND put your backsplash on, you just have to wait for the caulking, or (like this case) expect to redo it in 6 or so months. I'd go the second route, caulk is plenty cheap enough and it'll prevent water damage on the backside of the cabinets if there is a spill or something like that.
"Settle in" who the fudge told you that???
U gotta b joking, ur nuts dude, wait 6-8 months🤣🤣🤣......use caulk in the first place!
FYI & imo…….
Any “grout” that is not 100% silicone; will be a siliconized grout; which can crack, etc….as others do (like sanded/unsanded silicone grout caulk….. not 100% silicone caulk for showers/tubs and over time can crack & chip out.).
Not a fan of using any sanded/unsanded siliconized latex grout caulk for a job (unless ya gotta for the “100% material/colour match” or can’t get correct silicone caulk for job, as does happen and things gotta stay on some kind of schedule), & prefer 100% silicone that’s same brand as materials used in process of tile install (as every brand has them)…..& as Sal pointed out in his great silicone vs video for shower caulking….silicone way to go 👍🏻✌🏻
I think the key here is he stated that he “strongly advised the homeowner NOT to do the backsplash so early.” He also said he was already there to do the job. But, he was willing to delay the work and delay getting paid, in the homeowners best interest to avoid a problem he knew could happen by doing it too soon. Can’t fault the backsplash guy for that!
Fact! People make a big mistake siliconing baths empty, yes empty once it's full it pulls away. Top tip! Fill the bath with cold water then silicone leave to dry , empty water, job done that'll last.
Why not just say we recommend 6/8 months to install a backsplash instead of saying it’s all the owners fault. Bad customer service.
Just acclimate the cabinets first, they didn't "settle in" they dried out in the low humidity conditions of the house. This is usually easy to accomplish with the 1-2 week or better lead time for the counter tops to be measured and fabricated. 6-8 months is an insane joke. You probably used the wrong caulk.
I’ve never heard of this.
If the floor and units are solid, nothing should move more than 2mm at most and the silicon would hold. I’ve never heard of this. The base units are solid. They don’t flex or settle
This actually has an easy fix. Use color match siliconized grout caulk. I use where tile meet any non tile surface. It’s more professional look every time.
Pro tip: tape both counter and tile for straight caulk edge.
Wood acclimates in +/- 72 hrs
“Settle in” 6 to 8 months, dude you play with yourself
Sounds like bull$@“&)?
A renovation will never wait 6 months for cabinets to settle, that's insane. You either use good cabinet installers, a better caulking grout, or go back and fix your mistake.
Home owners and contractors KNOW projects never work out on TIME or budget. The correct way is to use high performance caulking on the bottom seat. Never use grout between counter and backsplash.
That’s fucking dumb never heard of waiting 6 months for some tiles
and don't tile your bathroom until the tub has settled!
"Wait half a year" lol wtf
as a countertop installer i never heard of a customer waiting 6-8 months for backsplash. most i seen customers wait was 1 week tops.
6-8 months is a ridiculous timeline; don’t blame the homeowner. Be understanding and just redo the calking
The tiles are glued to the wall, and the wall assembly will expand..contract differently than the cabinetry, always silicone or always crack
Yea… this is bull crap, cabinets don’t settle.
Re-sealing and filling cracks is normal for any new build. Everything slowly shifts.
I’ve watched plenty of house renos on here and no one ever had to wait half a year for backsplash lmfao
where are the cabinets settling into? the floor, I've never heard so much rubbish in all my life.
This recommendation is not practical or professional!
B.s. the cabinets don't settle unless they're installed wrong, which might be common, but it can be checked.
No one is going to wait 6-8 months, during a renovation.
What you should do is don't place blame & account for a return trip, in your original price.
🤗
Seems like it’s worth just having the seem redone instead of waiting months to install a backsplash in your new home🤷🏼♂️
CRINGE HE DIDNT WIPE WITH HIS FINGERRRR ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHH JUST WIPEEEE ITTTTTTTTTTTT
Or just run a proper bead and dont touch it.
People seem to not understand these days that houses actually do MOVE. Your entire house can be off. Build the house to code in a high humidity climate. Go back 6 months later and I can almost guarantee every single wall would be off by atleast 1-2 degrees. Than go back 20 years later and see what's changed lmfao
NEVER Publicly say something was “all your customers fault”! The customer is always right can be taken literally or as a concept acknowledging that a service provider must adhere to decency, REGARDLESS of blame of a customer. I certainly would never have you install anything in my house.
The entitlement in the comments. Sucking up a few months with a solid color wall is not a big deal.
I get it, you just moved etc. but seriously you want it done well once no? I appreciate this persons insight.
Yeah, that makes sense. Everyone i know leaves there kitchen alone for 6 to 8 months before installing a back splash. We do the same thing afyer framing too, just leave the house alone for a half a year to adjust to settling.
Seems like a newable market resource to me, pro craftsmen.👍🏼
6-8 months is not practical for most people. If you make the seam with the correct compound that has flexibility there’s no need to wait that long. Doing nothing for that long would also cause other issues.
I can tell you you’re the ONLY guy that waits 6-8 months after cabinets to put in a backsplash
So if I build a house, which takes them 6-8 months to build, I need to wait another 6-8 months to install splash back. 😂
Thank God they did an awesome job with mine and there are no issues with them on our build.
No one, I repeat no one is going to build a house then wait 6 to 8 months to put a back splash on. If you can't figure out what to use for caulking, that isn't the home owners fault.
As a professional it's your responsibility to not do something you know goes against the customers needs and your reputation.
Wow! I'm going to have dozens of callbacks. I guess I better clear my schedule for the next year. Since it's "the homeowners fault" I should get paid for all of these fixes I'll have to do. What a great way to make some extra cash!
Another 6 months go by. It’s all this home owners fault, if they would of waited 12 months like we suggested, they wouldn’t be in this position replacing 6 dollar caulk again. Told them wait on the trim to settle in the living room.
I'm a kitchen fitter and have tiled countless kitchens - cabinets 'settling' after 6-8months is some absolute nonsense. Job done badly from day one is why problems arose
No need to wait, if you have a solid base and carcasses no need to settle they are solid
A good caulk would not "separate" as you put it. Good caulk is malleable. You can squish it, squash it, stretch it.
“Wait 6-8 months for the kitchen cabinets to settle in” On what planet will they do that??
What you really need to do is call the cabinet installer and tell him to stop using soft cedar shims under the base cabinets. He can make fir shims from scrap 2X lumber and probably fix this problem on future builds.
Also it looks like you failed to completely fill the gap with caulking. You need to use a trowel to press the bead all the way into the joint. Probably need twice as much caulk as you applied.
As a professional installer, (forty yrs) I have never had cabinets separate from kitchen counter tops.
My parents did their back splash after their cabinets were installed. My father having his own construction company said he has never heard of cabinets settling and he hasnt had the issue in the entire 3 years of the backsplash and cabinets heing put in....
I’ve remodeled several homes now and I’ve never heard of this 😂😂😂😂 way to blame it on your clients. I hope they read the comments here and see y’all hosed them.
"Settle in"....? I've been in the industry for 40 years. Dirt settles, log cabinet construction with green logs settle as the logs dry. I've never heard of this cabinet 'settle in' mith....
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The cabinets don’t settle in. They may dip under slight pressure, but it isn’t noticeable. That was just a bad caulk job.
This is one of the funnier things I've ever heard
I sell kitchens for a living, we'll sell splashbacks/backboards, be it quartz, metallic, glass or MDF, the fitters do it straight away, never had any feedback regarding separation. My guess is the feet just aren't strong enough and/or the units are fastened to the wall
You can use a silicone that flexes. Had you used enough it would have absorbed the settling. Done it plenty of times and never had an issue. Stop blaming others.
Looks like an easy enough fix
As a kitchen guy, I’m not entirely sure the statement is accurate.
Maybe I could just blame the flooring guy, should I have waited for him to put the floor in so it’s settled before I put my cabinets in?
Oh sh*t thats right. You wait 6 month for the flooring to settle before you install cabinets, then wait a few days for counter tops to be installed because the cabinets settled as well . The home owners should know that .. lol
It's called clear silicone caulking at transition between tile and counter.
Waiting 6/8 months are you nuts?????
Customer - "Your tile job isn't aligned properly, I've got a cracked seam against the countertops, would you mind?"
This guy - "this is all your fault, you rushed us to do a job I committed to."
If the cabinetry or the countertop settles your joists are not engineered to handle the weight. There should not be any settling at all with new cabinetry.
Never in my 23 years of construction did I ever hear “ we are going to wait 6 months to let the cabinets settle before finishing the tile.”
That's why most builders only give a year warranty. There's is numerous problems just like this after a year and some unnoticeable things before
I recommend you dry the water of the sockets before switching anything on.
Everyone I see pulls their caulk gun - push it with the right angle and a straight cut tip. Takes a little practice but you save TONS of caulk, way less clean up, and you don’t even have to drag your finger over it.
You should point out that's "rule of thumb" when working with stone countertops.
Edit: Some people may miss that point
so glad to see everyone in the comments go WTF
while I'm not a Carpenter I've never seen an issue like this happen at anyone I know's home