I enjoyed this video Greg! I will be using your technique as I rewire my 89 Smoker Craft. I also took your advice and spent the money on a Blue Sea Systems battery switch. You should do more Boat DIY mechanical/electronic videos. Take care, Jay Bonner, Newcastle, Ontario
I’ve been an electrician for 40 years. And I can tell you soldering is not the way to go. Solder adds resistance to the wire to the connector. Invest in hydraulic crimper with the right size dies. If you’re going to solder make sure it is Rosen-based and not acid-based.
Ok an electrician works on stationary equipment. A boat is in a high vibration high corrosion environment. Is flux caused corrosion than the copper pipes in your home would leak. In 20 years of mechanical work i have never had a cable failure. Saulder is used in just about every connection inside sensitive electronics. If the led caused resistance than your phone wouldn't work. An electrician is not a marine mechanic
i’m no electrician or mechanic, i have no certs or anything, but i do know ABYC conditionally allows both crimp and solder connections although i have never seen this done on any boat in 9 years of working in the marine industry.
I’m so confused I put tinned wire in my 28’ offshore boat I use commercially 9 months out of the year the last 16 years, we used tinned cable, tinned terminals and it’s running strong with no electrical issues. I have to somewhat agree with most of the comments. Bare copper work great yes, but it also highly depends on the environment of that specific installation location. There’s not a chance bare copper outlasts tinned, test have been performed to prove tinned wire has = or less resistance when properly installed, also tests showing bare copper falling apart and causing serious safety risks. I’ve been a Yamaha tech for 25 years and all big companies try to save pennies every chance they can but one thing I’ve noticed they never use bare copper. Hmmmmm, weird. Change the title man you’ll never win this battle, facts are facts.
Or if you just use the proper lugs and cable, (tinned copper) you don’t have to replace it. The wiring will last the life of the vessel as long as it’s been crimped correctly.
This video demonstration violates multiple engineering rules for marine vessels. Retitle it "How NOT to do Marine Cables". Typical technician answers in other comments "mehhh I been doin' it this way for forty y'ars and never had one problem". Guess what, you've been doing it WRONG for forty years. This is perfect demonstration for why local marine yard mechanics should NOT be hired to do work; they are not adequately trained nor knowledgeable, plus when told their methods are incorrect, they stubbornly refuse to become educated.
Ok hot shot. This method has was used on the planet express in 2010 . In 13 yars of commercial service we have had no issues with them. If you are so smart, then make your own video
@@fullytekmechanical3595 As typical.. to restate.. comments "mehhh I been doin' it this way for forty y'ars and never had one problem". Guess what, you've been doing it WRONG for forty years
The title should say "battery cables", definitely not use the word marine grade anywhere nere this video. Listen to Charles Prince earlier in the comments about hydraulik crimper to larger wires, and your comment about vibrations is exactly why you don't solder connections. And also, you do not use pure copper ends, you use tin plated copper connections.
No your wrong. A crimped cable will brake if its not addiqutly secured. We have been doing cables this way for 20 years zero failures. This is not a stationary electrical cabinet. Its a dynamic harsh environment.
If you decide to use this technique it’s perfectly acceptable just make sure you by two of everything and plan to redo everything in 3-5 years when you copper turns black, hopefully before your boat burns down. Good luck.
If you decide you want a quality brand hydraulic crimper at a better price, TEMco sometimes has referb TH0005 sets with full warranty on e-bay. Not affiliated, but just bought one myself.
I just redone mine just like that used a copper end heavy duty one for welder cable used tinned flux and crimped it 3 times and soldered it looks factory now
Problem is that crimper is too small for that gauge of wire.
I enjoyed this video Greg! I will be using your technique as I rewire my 89 Smoker Craft. I also took your advice and spent the money on a Blue Sea Systems battery switch. You should do more Boat DIY mechanical/electronic videos.
Take care,
Jay Bonner, Newcastle, Ontario
What an excellent video. Deserves more views. Thanks for the information!
"We're gonna use the proper cheap Chinese tool" AWESOME!
I’ve been an electrician for 40 years. And I can tell you soldering is not the way to go. Solder adds resistance to the wire to the connector. Invest in hydraulic crimper with the right size dies. If you’re going to solder make sure it is Rosen-based and not acid-based.
Ok an electrician works on stationary equipment.
A boat is in a high vibration high corrosion environment.
Is flux caused corrosion than the copper pipes in your home would leak.
In 20 years of mechanical work i have never had a cable failure.
Saulder is used in just about every connection inside sensitive electronics. If the led caused resistance than your phone wouldn't work.
An electrician is not a marine mechanic
This video was hilariously bad. He really has no business talking bad about the owners efforts when his own are only slightly better.
i’m no electrician or mechanic, i have no certs or anything, but i do know ABYC conditionally allows both crimp and solder connections although i have never seen this done on any boat in 9 years of working in the marine industry.
I’m so confused I put tinned wire in my 28’ offshore boat I use commercially 9 months out of the year the last 16 years, we used tinned cable, tinned terminals and it’s running strong with no electrical issues. I have to somewhat agree with most of the comments. Bare copper work great yes, but it also highly depends on the environment of that specific installation location. There’s not a chance bare copper outlasts tinned, test have been performed to prove tinned wire has = or less resistance when properly installed, also tests showing bare copper falling apart and causing serious safety risks. I’ve been a Yamaha tech for 25 years and all big companies try to save pennies every chance they can but one thing I’ve noticed they never use bare copper. Hmmmmm, weird. Change the title man you’ll never win this battle, facts are facts.
Or if you just use the proper lugs and cable, (tinned copper) you don’t have to replace it. The wiring will last the life of the vessel as long as it’s been crimped correctly.
This video demonstration violates multiple engineering rules for marine vessels. Retitle it "How NOT to do Marine Cables".
Typical technician answers in other comments "mehhh I been doin' it this way for forty y'ars and never had one problem".
Guess what, you've been doing it WRONG for forty years.
This is perfect demonstration for why local marine yard mechanics should NOT be hired to do work; they are not adequately trained nor knowledgeable, plus when told their methods are incorrect, they stubbornly refuse to become educated.
Ok hot shot.
This method has was used on the planet express in 2010 . In 13 yars of commercial service we have had no issues with them.
If you are so smart, then make your own video
@@fullytekmechanical3595 As typical.. to restate.. comments "mehhh I been doin' it this way for forty y'ars and never had one problem".
Guess what, you've been doing it WRONG for forty years
The title should say "battery cables", definitely not use the word marine grade anywhere nere this video.
Listen to Charles Prince earlier in the comments about hydraulik crimper to larger wires, and your comment about vibrations is exactly why you don't solder connections.
And also, you do not use pure copper ends, you use tin plated copper connections.
No your wrong.
A crimped cable will brake if its not addiqutly secured.
We have been doing cables this way for 20 years zero failures.
This is not a stationary electrical cabinet.
Its a dynamic harsh environment.
Absolutely - tinned cables and connectors not welding wire or automotive cables.
If you decide to use this technique it’s perfectly acceptable just make sure you by two of everything and plan to redo everything in 3-5 years when you copper turns black, hopefully before your boat burns down. Good luck.
Best God Damm video I've seen in years😊
If you decide you want a quality brand hydraulic crimper at a better price, TEMco sometimes has referb TH0005 sets with full warranty on e-bay. Not affiliated, but just bought one myself.
I just redone mine just like that used a copper end heavy duty one for welder cable used tinned flux and crimped it 3 times and soldered it looks factory now
That’s not tinned cable.
Tined cable is garbage
Question, a battery is 12v yet i see guys putting 4/0 cables is this correct??
Got do my yamaha 85hp the same way ends about gone
PLUMBING FLUX!? Are you putting water through these cables? How REDNECK!!! - No clue there ARE differences between fluxes, HU?