I think the alpine mode cuts back the fuel flow for the same fan speed. In a higher altitude the air is less dense so there's less oxygen to use per volume of air flow. Basically it would keep the same air fuel ratio at high altitude vs sea level.
I burn used oil in mine too. I haven't checked temperature but I mix 40 percent diesel 10 percent gasoline 50 percent waste oil. If I have problems lighting it from cold I feed a little propane into the intake until it gets burning good.
I saw in one video that using alpine mode isn’t recommended with waste oils. But I don’t know enough about all this yet. Thanks for sharing your videos, very informative. Dan from Alberta Canada.
You should Y inlet your fuel... Diesel and oil from separate tanks, Start with diesel until hot then switch to oil/diesel mix, filter the old oil as best you can wrap a copper brake line tube around the exhaust after the fuel pump to pre-heat the oil/diesel mix before it enters the burn chamber this way you can mix a lot less diesel to the old oil 20% or even 10% petrol/Gas. I run my initial burn on Kerosene/Paraffin for first 5 mins then switched over to old oil. I still do this and it has not let me down in over 7 months, I will do a strip down clean in spring! FYI when the contractors take away the old oil from garages/breaker yards they burn it!
I did what you suggested, I have straight diesel and diesel waste oil mix Y piped. I had it where you start on straight diesel, and once hot switch over to waste mix. I only got two days of run time. It's flaming out at start now. It is preheated with brake line wrapped by exhaust. You guys add something to the mix also? I wish I could run 7mo no issues
Reccomendations 2of4 mixture is very well filtered waste motor or veggie oil 40 percent, pure diesel 50 percent, 10 percent petrol. Start w pure, run on mixture, shut down on pure at HIGH for several minutes.
I would not go over 30% waste oil and you should filter it otherwise your burn chamber will plug on the bottom holes cutting off air supply -also start up and shut down with pure diesel with your unit on high for at least ten minutes prior to shut down to combat the impurity burn situation and keep your burn chamber clean
I had deisel leaking out of the intake onto the exhaust !!!! my fuel line leaked at the flang of the burncamber. thats how i ended up here..... I have 3 of these things ... i love them!!! about to do a 4th....
Leaning out the burn on your diesel heater is quite different than leaning out your burn on a combustion engine. Leaning out the burn in the diesel heater will make the temperature go down however adding used crank case oil it will burn hotter because there is more energy in crank case oil.
@jmubreader yes after some research I quickly realized where I made my mistakes . But from my experiments so far and at the mix I use I am not experiencing very much difference in burn temps . I will be posting a new video on my test and where I found best burn vs soothe in exhaust. Thanks for feed back
Recommendations... part 1 of 4 two fuel sources, one pure diesel/heating oil/kerosene and the other your waste oil mix. Manifold together .. use pure to start and shut down.. mixture while running.
I tried this last winter. Good heat output, but after a couple of weeks got harder to start and began to flame out. I replaced the gauze by the glow plug thinking this would solve the problems. It didn't. I cleaned as much as I could the burn chamber which had hard carbon built up at the front where the flame propergates from but still no good. I then cut the chamber and found the carbon had built up around a second gauze at the front of the burn chamber where the flame comes from. I ended up having to replace the burn chamber which negated most of the savings I'd achieved by using waste motor oil, plus the time to strip it down several times to find the root of the problem. Heaters only ever break when you need them.....
That’s so true they always break when you need them. I am having the very same luck you are having. I truly think I need to preheat to get better burn. I have had to stop using waste oil mix . The burner clogs up to quickly . Also I have to admit the oil I have may have other contamination. I do wood work and I was using spirits and acetone and random solvents may have been poured in so I have decided to abandon this batch clean out the waste oil container and do a few oil changes coming soon to our vehicles and make sure it’s only waste oil and filtered for future mixes also I have a stainless 1/4 inch by 3 feet tube on the way that I will wrap around the exhaust make a coil of sorts to help with burning this mixture.
@@Storman77 good luck! I've basically given up with wmo. It's the ash Content that causes the clogging, where the secondary gauze is the flame simply doesn't get hot enough to burn this off as the gauze is just to increase surface area to make diesel easier to ignite. The gauze needs to be getting on for white hot to combust the ash. if a jet was put in to atomise the wmo, and started using diesel conventionally, it might work, but I suspect the heat exchanger would over heat. For me, the bottom line is that it's only good for diesel. Even new veg oil clogs. Great video!
the problem is that waste oil will leave that gunk if the temperature is too low. that usually means it happens everytime you start it up. I ended up having two tanks, one with straight diesel and one with waste oil/diesel. I would start it with the straight diesel, and then swap. I guess its a Y junction, except a simple kind where only one of the two can be connected at once. that helped me a lot.
@@Storman77 if that doesn’t help, combine it with a simple one pass filter for the waste oil. it kind of depends on where youre getting the waste engine oil from. it doesn’t need to be very good filter, not like youre reusing the oil. I’d recommend a large piece of felt over a 50 gallon drum. you’d secure the felt with a rachet strap or something, then you’d just pour the waste oil into the drum on top of the felt, and then let it sit for a couple days. i didn’t need to do that, but there is a guy on youtube that did that for use in a oil-fired scrapping furnace.
A another idea could be to run it on a 2 tank system. To start it on pure diesel and switching it to your "blend" once it is up to operating temperature. About "blending", you could try to blend waste oil with gasoline in a 90/10 ratio or in a 80/20 ratio (%). That blend hold almost the same cetane rating as pure diesel. I am running waste motor oil blending with gasoline in a 80/20 ratio on my diesel car. I have a 2 tank setup starting on diesel and switching it to black diesel tank.
Recommendations 3of4 .. run unit completely inside the trailer with the ONLY exception the exhaust pipe. Sleeve the pipe where it exits the unit.. have a fan blowing on exhaust the whole time. Mount high enough that the exhaust is ALWAYS sloping or straight down. Never have a U or dead spot in the pipe.
Mines supposed to show up tomorrow. Im going to try heating the oil also possibly running it through the egr pre burn. Eventually I want to install it to remote pre heat my truck also running wmo.
I am thinking about heating my oil also. Just trying to find the materials to make a coil wrap to go around exhaust and properly fit it. EGR would work for sure. I am thinking of using small copper or aluminum pipe as small as I can get make nice coil and slide over exhaust near the unit which is usually 270 degrees Fahrenheit. That will certainly help the flash point .
in the Uk its illegal to burn waste oil so the local authorities collect it at municipal rubbish tips and it is unbelieveably taken away to soak wood chips to burn in powerstations.
Hi , love your video, but can I ask when I set up my burner with a mix of 60/40 waste oil I noticed first it smoked a bit too much but also there is a seepage of oil coming from the air intake ,Im wondering if you or anyone else on here had any issue like this , cheers Philip
Shud open and clean all Machine. Best of luck. And alsow fine tune ur secret menu 1688. Hz shud be 1.2 at low and 3.6 Hz at high. This is to get same heat and lowe fuel consume. All put way to much Hz and cloges them up. But all can and it easy to clean it in maximum 1h
been sleeping on top of one in my semi truck for 5 years believe its a Webasto brand think its German, probably would be my choice if I would put it into anything valuable I would not want to burn to a crisp haha.
Please share whit us your Hz for low and topp in secret menu code 1688. If it is low 1.2 Hz and 3.6 Hz at topp for 5 and 8kw your consume goes way down. And New them comes over Hz to use way to much fuel that auto clogs it up over time. I have used 24/7 in Skandinavia 3 years. I dont stopp start many times. Burns so clean and more efektly after tuning my menu. Is crazy big differens in make it burn clean and clean heaters when you have this setting. Hope you can share whit us ur Hz low and topp. I alsow use rpm 2200 low and 5000 at max whit this settings. Any have some to say at this please do. But it burn so clean and consume goes down crazy. And same heat Good video
I'm wondering what temp you would get, if you put the intake pipe outside, so you get colder and more oxygen reach air in the burner. If your garage is sealed tied then you may run out of oxygen for the burner to work efficiently. This is just a theory, but may be worth trying.
Cold air does not have more oxygen percentage wise, the DENSITY is higher tho.. BUT at these ranges, you are more worried about how much energy is lost in combustion.
Quite possibly, my test show when I do that I lose heat quickly. Lower heat creates creosote so I think it’s having the reverse effect that say an internal combustion engine would have.
They don't dump used waste oil, they burn it too..If you want to burn old oil get some carbon felt, make a candle box stove, the carbon felt is the wick, the oil is the candle, use computer fans to suck air through the pipes, will work 4 ever, blows 200 degree air...carbon felt never burns like a normal wick, and can wick up heavy oils, have to start it by lighting it with some alcohol, gas, starter fluid, something like that..Look up candle box stove..The carbon felt must be 100%...Way better for burning used oil, simple to make...
The unit was designed to produce 160° c out the pipe if you run it over hot because you've got hotter fuel in it the risk of melting down aluminum internal parts because 200° c air temperature does not equate to internal temperature. Aluminum melts at 660° c I would worry about permanently damaging internal components running it on maximum output like that 100% of the time. That's like driving your car around with an extra hundred horsepower worth of nitrous even when you don't need it. It's probably better to run the Alpine mode when you burn the used oil (At least in theory) These things take years to prove if something is good for them or not
I just ordered one on EBay delivered to my door 30 . Thanks . Ordered spare parts also was real cheap. Just so I can experiment like a mad scientist lol
I am thinking that as well. IIRC Kerosene heating oil (28 sec) is cleaner burning and thinner than Diesel (35 sec). Will be setting my up soon so will have a play. I would be happy if 25% waste oil to 75% kerosene worked.
Under you have exsos and inlet for burner Chamber. You need inlet to go out whit exsos. If not you suck heated air in to burner and it go extra heat from room out exsos
Maybe the Chinese have the buttons/instructions in correct with the language barrier. Maybe when you press the buttons it is turning off that feature not turning it on?
You actually see the mountain symbol on screen when it comes on and you here the pump slow down which is the indicator that a leaner burn is happening for the lower oxygen available in high altitude. But you are correct about the language barrier in the instructions. 👍
On all mine I have the 2 1/2 gallon tanks and since my heaters always run on low except for power up and down and only during the night, I get around 60 hours run time per 2 1/2 gallons.
@@goysb4jays566 He said gallons not litres he used 11.5 litres.. still seems a low figure though! I use about 11 litres in 22 hours, again in a smaller space 160sqft.
It wouldn’t be the same . I have the regular mister buddy so single thank and for sure it’s hotter but my issue them buddy heater are wet heat I hate it in the camper and no control.
Less fuel is less heat. This is a diesel machine. It cools down with air, not fuel. Leaner is less power = Less heat. Think about it in a diesel engine vs gasoline engine. Theres is no variation or control of intake pressure. Are you a Québecer btw?
Nope not a québécois. And diesel have no intake pressure control? What is intake boost pressure? I think I understand what you meant but diesel engine are not comparable to this heater . I hear people comparing it and I assure you a diesel engine and this heater have too many different characteristics. One big one is there is like zero compression on heater . But fuel air mixture certainly is similar in the principle you pointing out
@@Storman77 talking non turbo, and mostly comparing vs a gasoline engine which runs under vaccuum. Gasoline= air controlled. diesel = fuel controlled. Hence the opposite effects on air fuel ratios. Ordered a second heater to put in my truck. Was able to run my trucks amsoil 15w40 in it. It just doesnt want to run on the first 2 speed settings. Pretty high 450C flash point.
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Please guys, I'm 100% ignorant about this stuff, can anyone point me to a video explaining how to set this thing up what the hoses are for and how to install one at home? I suppose one hose needs a hole in a wall, then it just needs electric power? Thanks...
DO NOT PUT waste oil in these heaters . with in a week or two you will have to strip it down and clean it out , it will make a REAL mess inside , believe me ive been there , NEVER again , you ARE going to ruin the heater if you keep using it .,
I accidentally just bought the 5kw version because they both look identical. I was not aware that there was more than one option. What's the difference? More heat? Should I be concerned that I got the 5kw instead of the 8kw?
The 8kw claim has been largely disproved by other diesel heater owners. I tend to agree based on a host of factors. The basic heater design follows the Espar and Webasto models. Neither company makes an air heater with an 8 kw output
@@Storman77 glassbead made it like new but after installation is chocked up again. I feel its not reaching temp. I fitted a new unit a few days ago, massive difference. Much better.
I can tell you right now folks from experience you mixing this oil in there and you're screwed and let me explain why. This shit does not burn at 1100° inside there so one you're going to get soot whether you want to or not. Especially if you put the oil stuff in there mixing it with the diesel. This thing is not going to burn your used up oil and shit what you're going to be doing is cleaning it out every month You're going to tear it completely apart to get it to work I'm telling you you are fucking up messing with these other fuels putting them in there with the diesel but go ahead make your videos just let you know I warned you
I think the alpine mode cuts back the fuel flow for the same fan speed. In a higher altitude the air is less dense so there's less oxygen to use per volume of air flow. Basically it would keep the same air fuel ratio at high altitude vs sea level.
I burn used oil in mine too. I haven't checked temperature but I mix 40 percent diesel 10 percent gasoline 50 percent waste oil.
If I have problems lighting it from cold I feed a little propane into the intake until it gets burning good.
I saw in one video that using alpine mode isn’t recommended with waste oils. But I don’t know enough about all this yet. Thanks for sharing your videos, very informative. Dan from Alberta Canada.
You should Y inlet your fuel... Diesel and oil from separate tanks, Start with diesel until hot then switch to oil/diesel mix, filter the old oil as best you can wrap a copper brake line tube around the exhaust after the fuel pump to pre-heat the oil/diesel mix before it enters the burn chamber this way you can mix a lot less diesel to the old oil 20% or even 10% petrol/Gas. I run my initial burn on Kerosene/Paraffin for first 5 mins then switched over to old oil. I still do this and it has not let me down in over 7 months, I will do a strip down clean in spring! FYI when the contractors take away the old oil from garages/breaker yards they burn it!
So I could start it off with 1k and just let filtered veggie oil?
I do this as well, but I turn back to kerosene got the last 5 mins operation as well. This seems to clear out any coke build up prior to shutdown
I did what you suggested, I have straight diesel and diesel waste oil mix Y piped. I had it where you start on straight diesel, and once hot switch over to waste mix. I only got two days of run time. It's flaming out at start now. It is preheated with brake line wrapped by exhaust. You guys add something to the mix also? I wish I could run 7mo no issues
Reccomendations 2of4 mixture is very well filtered waste motor or veggie oil 40 percent, pure diesel 50 percent, 10 percent petrol. Start w pure, run on mixture, shut down on pure at HIGH for several minutes.
I would not go over 30% waste oil and you should filter it otherwise your burn chamber will plug on the bottom holes cutting off air supply -also start up and shut down with pure diesel with your unit on high for at least ten minutes prior to shut down to combat the impurity burn situation and keep your burn chamber clean
I had deisel leaking out of the intake onto the exhaust !!!! my fuel line leaked at the flang of the burncamber. thats how i ended up here..... I have 3 of these things ... i love them!!! about to do a 4th....
Nice video! I will waiting for the update of the cleaning schedule! Keep up!
Will be this weekend lol it’s already plugged. We will see why soon.
sounds like a 747 in his garage
Our workshop on farm has a waste oil burner to heat and produce hot water to workshop.
Deq will love you🤣
Leaning out the burn on your diesel heater is quite different than leaning out your burn on a combustion engine. Leaning out the burn in the diesel heater will make the temperature go down however adding used crank case oil it will burn hotter because there is more energy in crank case oil.
@jmubreader yes after some research I quickly realized where I made my mistakes . But from my experiments so far and at the mix I use I am not experiencing very much difference in burn temps . I will be posting a new video on my test and where I found best burn vs soothe in exhaust. Thanks for feed back
Very interesting little heater can you tell me what voltage it works on
@@marke293 it comes in 12 and 24 volt DC
@@marke293 12 volt or24 volt DC
@@Storman77 what's the best mixing ratio of engine oil and diesel on your burner?
Recommendations... part 1 of 4 two fuel sources, one pure diesel/heating oil/kerosene and the other your waste oil mix. Manifold together .. use pure to start and shut down.. mixture while running.
I tried this last winter. Good heat output, but after a couple of weeks got harder to start and began to flame out. I replaced the gauze by the glow plug thinking this would solve the problems. It didn't. I cleaned as much as I could the burn chamber which had hard carbon built up at the front where the flame propergates from but still no good. I then cut the chamber and found the carbon had built up around a second gauze at the front of the burn chamber where the flame comes from. I ended up having to replace the burn chamber which negated most of the savings I'd achieved by using waste motor oil, plus the time to strip it down several times to find the root of the problem.
Heaters only ever break when you need them.....
That’s so true they always break when you need them. I am having the very same luck you are having. I truly think I need to preheat to get better burn. I have had to stop using waste oil mix . The burner clogs up to quickly . Also I have to admit the oil I have may have other contamination. I do wood work and I was using spirits and acetone and random solvents may have been poured in so I have decided to abandon this batch clean out the waste oil container and do a few oil changes coming soon to our vehicles and make sure it’s only waste oil and filtered for future mixes also I have a stainless 1/4 inch by 3 feet tube on the way that I will wrap around the exhaust make a coil of sorts to help with burning this mixture.
@@Storman77 good luck! I've basically given up with wmo. It's the ash Content that causes the clogging, where the secondary gauze is the flame simply doesn't get hot enough to burn this off as the gauze is just to increase surface area to make diesel easier to ignite. The gauze needs to be getting on for white hot to combust the ash. if a jet was put in to atomise the wmo, and started using diesel conventionally, it might work, but I suspect the heat exchanger would over heat. For me, the bottom line is that it's only good for diesel. Even new veg oil clogs. Great video!
the problem is that waste oil will leave that gunk if the temperature is too low. that usually means it happens everytime you start it up. I ended up having two tanks, one with straight diesel and one with waste oil/diesel. I would start it with the straight diesel, and then swap. I guess its a Y junction, except a simple kind where only one of the two can be connected at once. that helped me a lot.
@@SpiraSpiraSpira currently building that setup here ! Thanks
@@Storman77 if that doesn’t help, combine it with a simple one pass filter for the waste oil. it kind of depends on where youre getting the waste engine oil from. it doesn’t need to be very good filter, not like youre reusing the oil. I’d recommend a large piece of felt over a 50 gallon drum. you’d secure the felt with a rachet strap or something, then you’d just pour the waste oil into the drum on top of the felt, and then let it sit for a couple days. i didn’t need to do that, but there is a guy on youtube that did that for use in a oil-fired scrapping furnace.
I will be interested to see if you make a success of this. If you do let us know the secret 😀
I can already tell you that mix wasn’t successful. Video be up shortly about results and changes coming to the mix.
Lean on gas is warm lean on diesel is cool
Very interesting video. I you put your air intake outside the building that might help on the burn, make it burn more cleaner. Just a thought.
A another idea could be to run it on a 2 tank system. To start it on pure diesel and switching it to your "blend" once it is up to operating temperature. About "blending", you could try to blend waste oil with gasoline in a 90/10 ratio or in a 80/20 ratio (%). That blend hold almost the same cetane rating as pure diesel. I am running waste motor oil blending with gasoline in a 80/20 ratio on my diesel car. I have a 2 tank setup starting on diesel and switching it to black diesel tank.
To burn veg oil you need 20% gas, problem is that gas destroys gaskets that are meant for diesel.
Recommendations 3of4 .. run unit completely inside the trailer with the ONLY exception the exhaust pipe. Sleeve the pipe where it exits the unit.. have a fan blowing on exhaust the whole time. Mount high enough that the exhaust is ALWAYS sloping or straight down. Never have a U or dead spot in the pipe.
I burn old engine oil and a third old oil is the best mix I found .tried 50 ,50 and maintenance is high .take heater apart every two days of use.
I tried the amsoil 15w40 diesel oil and it struggles .Have same heater which cannot be tuned. Else I think it would work
I ran 50/50 and huge mistake I have to pull heater apart now and give er a good cleaning
Mines supposed to show up tomorrow. Im going to try heating the oil also possibly running it through the egr pre burn. Eventually I want to install it to remote pre heat my truck also running wmo.
I am thinking about heating my oil also. Just trying to find the materials to make a coil wrap to go around exhaust and properly fit it. EGR would work for sure. I am thinking of using small copper or aluminum pipe as small as I can get make nice coil and slide over exhaust near the unit which is usually 270 degrees Fahrenheit. That will certainly help the flash point .
in the Uk its illegal to burn waste oil so the local authorities collect it at municipal rubbish tips and it is unbelieveably taken away to soak wood chips to burn in powerstations.
Yeah best not to tell em
I like the model, could you provide make and model number of this unit your testing THANKS
It will gunge your pump up so can't see it lasting to long as the pump is sensitive. Just make sure it's well flushed out with diesel fuel.
I do run a filter before the pump I inspected it seemed fine but too soon to tell.
👍
Will a slip fit 90 degree copper or street 90 degree work so you don't have to lift the unit, possible hose clamp also?
Sorry what exactly do you mean? If you mean the exhaust pipe the unit is being removed from that portable housing.
Hi , love your video, but can I ask when I set up my burner with a mix of 60/40 waste oil I noticed first it smoked a bit too much but also there is a seepage of oil coming from the air intake ,Im wondering if you or anyone else on here had any issue like this , cheers Philip
Shud open and clean all Machine.
Best of luck.
And alsow fine tune ur secret menu 1688.
Hz shud be 1.2 at low and 3.6 Hz at high. This is to get same heat and lowe fuel consume.
All put way to much Hz and cloges them up.
But all can and it easy to clean it in maximum 1h
How did you make the controller show temp in the burn chamber/200 degrees?
Just hit OK button while it’s running you should cycle through voltage , internal temperature and setting
been sleeping on top of one in my semi truck for 5 years believe its a Webasto brand think its German, probably would be my choice if I would put it into anything valuable I would not want to burn to a crisp haha.
Please share whit us your Hz for low and topp in secret menu code 1688.
If it is low 1.2 Hz and 3.6 Hz at topp for 5 and 8kw your consume goes way down.
And New them comes over Hz to use way to much fuel that auto clogs it up over time.
I have used 24/7 in Skandinavia 3 years. I dont stopp start many times.
Burns so clean and more efektly after tuning my menu.
Is crazy big differens in make it burn clean and clean heaters when you have this setting.
Hope you can share whit us ur Hz low and topp.
I alsow use rpm 2200 low and 5000 at max whit this settings.
Any have some to say at this please do.
But it burn so clean and consume goes down crazy. And same heat
Good video
Are you filtering the waste oil in any way before you cut it with No.2 ?
Yes you have to do. Then mix and filter after.
Remember to sett Hz down low 1.2 and 3.6hz at max
I'm wondering what temp you would get, if you put the intake pipe outside, so you get colder and more oxygen reach air in the burner. If your garage is sealed tied then you may run out of oxygen for the burner to work efficiently. This is just a theory, but may be worth trying.
The garage isn’t a perfect seal. I would like outside air
Cold air does not have more oxygen percentage wise, the DENSITY is higher tho.. BUT at these ranges, you are more worried about how much energy is lost in combustion.
Is it possible if you were at higher altitude that mode would be ideal since it would need more air and less fuel. Cheers thanks for the video
Quite possibly, my test show when I do that I lose heat quickly. Lower heat creates creosote so I think it’s having the reverse effect that say an internal combustion engine would have.
@@Storman77 I'm in Minnesota runs like a champ on normal mode
They don't dump used waste oil, they burn it too..If you want to burn old oil get some carbon felt, make a candle box stove, the carbon felt is the wick, the oil is the candle, use computer fans to suck air through the pipes, will work 4 ever, blows 200 degree air...carbon felt never burns like a normal wick, and can wick up heavy oils, have to start it by lighting it with some alcohol, gas, starter fluid, something like that..Look up candle box stove..The carbon felt must be 100%...Way better for burning used oil, simple to make...
I will have a video up on building a waste oil burner / fireplace style for outdoors with forced air
Carbon wick? Like the one used on infrared lights? Its a carbon fibre type rope?
The fuel and oil are going to separate and vary over time. If you shake the fuel tank it may stop the temperature difference or minimize it?
Try to use exhaust to preheat intake air.
Try ten percent gasoline for a hotter burn and lower flash point.warm the fuel after the fuel pump.
Where the excaust pipeline to travel through the air intake, that should do the trick
mixing gas is dangerous tho
@@dimmacommunication run the fresh air along side the exhaust pipe to preheat combustion air. How is that dangerous?
@@susanvaughn741 Cause gas eats trough standard diesel gaskets
The unit was designed to produce 160° c out the pipe if you run it over hot because you've got hotter fuel in it the risk of melting down aluminum internal parts because 200° c air temperature does not equate to internal temperature.
Aluminum melts at 660° c
I would worry about permanently damaging internal components running it on maximum output like that 100% of the time.
That's like driving your car around with an extra hundred horsepower worth of nitrous even when you don't need it.
It's probably better to run the Alpine mode when you burn the used oil
(At least in theory)
These things take years to prove if something is good for them or not
New burner cost about $25-30 on aliexpress. So just see how much you can save on one burner
I just ordered one on EBay delivered to my door 30 . Thanks . Ordered spare parts also was real cheap. Just so I can experiment like a mad scientist lol
good experiment. I wonder how a 50/50 mix of waste oil and karosene would burn. I know that 100 % Kerosene can be run
I am thinking that as well. IIRC Kerosene heating oil (28 sec) is cleaner burning and thinner than Diesel (35 sec). Will be setting my up soon so will have a play. I would be happy if 25% waste oil to 75% kerosene worked.
Under you have exsos and inlet for burner Chamber. You need inlet to go out whit exsos.
If not you suck heated air in to burner and it go extra heat from room out exsos
Using old engine oil at a 80/20 diesel/oil will it smoke or make disgusting smell?
ok, i saw the whole video and see that no smoke or smell. So a 80/20 would be safe?
Maybe the Chinese have the buttons/instructions in correct with the language barrier. Maybe when you press the buttons it is turning off that feature not turning it on?
You actually see the mountain symbol on screen when it comes on and you here the pump slow down which is the indicator that a leaner burn is happening for the lower oxygen available in high altitude. But you are correct about the language barrier in the instructions. 👍
Just burn a liter of used motor oil in a pan and see what is left behind at the bottom.
You run a diesel on motor oil and you will risk a runaway
Just ordered mine to do the same thing. Can you show more on the port you made that goes through the door for the exhaust?
Will do Craig. I’ll make a video on that .
I would also like to see that! Great video
I am doing a small video this evening should be up tomorrow!
Mine is 8kw.
Alsow have 4kw from germany. But menu is fucked at that from factory. And not possible to change whit 1688 code
How long does it run for on 1 liter of diesel? What is the fuel tank capacity?
The capacity is 5 litre approximately. I haven’t done consumption test but I will do shortly and post video.
On all mine I have the 2 1/2 gallon tanks and since my heaters always run on low except for power up and down and only during the night, I get around 60 hours run time per 2 1/2 gallons.
@@wbforsure2104 that is quite efficient then! Thanks for the reply.
@@goysb4jays566 he wrote gallons so 10 litre tank he has. 6 hours per litre is better than me . See my consumption video
@@goysb4jays566 He said gallons not litres he used 11.5 litres.. still seems a low figure though! I use about 11 litres in 22 hours, again in a smaller space 160sqft.
Has any body compared this heater to like the propane large buddy heater
It wouldn’t be the same . I have the regular mister buddy so single thank and for sure it’s hotter but my issue them buddy heater are wet heat I hate it in the camper and no control.
Water in your waste oil?
Shouldn’t be any but hard to know 100%
Less fuel is less heat. This is a diesel machine. It cools down with air, not fuel. Leaner is less power = Less heat. Think about it in a diesel engine vs gasoline engine. Theres is no variation or control of intake pressure. Are you a Québecer btw?
Nope not a québécois. And diesel have no intake pressure control? What is intake boost pressure? I think I understand what you meant but diesel engine are not comparable to this heater . I hear people comparing it and I assure you a diesel engine and this heater have too many different characteristics. One big one is there is like zero compression on heater . But fuel air mixture certainly is similar in the principle you pointing out
@@Storman77 talking non turbo, and mostly comparing vs a gasoline engine which runs under vaccuum. Gasoline= air controlled. diesel = fuel controlled. Hence the opposite effects on air fuel ratios. Ordered a second heater to put in my truck. Was able to run my trucks amsoil 15w40 in it. It just doesnt want to run on the first 2 speed settings. Pretty high 450C flash point.
To save on costs, have you considered using home heating oil instead of diesel, which carries road use taxes? You could save more money that way.
#2 diesel is basically heating oil.
Use off-road diesel and you don’t got road tax
Or heating oil
Mixing waste oil with gas seems to work better
????? hopefully not more than 10% gas friend, that's the max you should run through a diesel
He in vendita? De si, quanto costa?
EBay or Amazon for about 200 Canadian Dollars approximately. Hope that helps ! VEVOR 8KW Diesel Air Heater Muffler Diesel Heater 12V 8000W Diesel Parking Heater Remote Control Remote Control with LCD Switch for Car Bus Trucks Motor-Home and Boats a.co/d/cDRbzwv
On ebay you can buy 8kw models for $100usd
@@wbforsure2104 I paid $103 bucks with Tax on Ebay one week ago Brand New! VEVOR 8KW With remote, So far so good.
kerosene not good, destroys gaskets and pump. I did for few months and that what happen. FYI
i have used kerosene for the last three years with no issues
Please guys, I'm 100% ignorant about this stuff, can anyone point me to a video explaining how to set this thing up what the hoses are for and how to install one at home? I suppose one hose needs a hole in a wall, then it just needs electric power?
Thanks...
All your doing by running used engine oil is shortening the life of the heater. Just run heating oil or agro diesel.
DO NOT PUT waste oil in these heaters . with in a week or two you will have to strip it down and clean it out , it will make a REAL mess inside , believe me ive been there , NEVER again , you ARE going to ruin the heater if you keep using it .,
Just get on with it wasting time not getting your words out
I accidentally just bought the 5kw version because they both look identical. I was not aware that there was more than one option.
What's the difference? More heat? Should I be concerned that I got the 5kw instead of the 8kw?
If the one you have bought is the same physical size as the usual 5KW, then it is just marketing BS and is the same heater
The 8kw claim has been largely disproved by other diesel heater owners. I tend to agree based on a host of factors. The basic heater design follows the Espar and Webasto models. Neither company makes an air heater with an 8 kw output
I used scrap oil with diesel. It fucked it pretty quickly. E8 EVERY 10 MINS. When i stripped it everything was full of thick soot.....
I’m now having same luck. You’ll have to clean bottom of the burner.
@@Storman77
I removed it again last night. Im going to glass bead and pressure wash it at work, meanwhile ive got a new one on order.
@@jackthomas1978 that should work great . The bottom should look like a rosebud try and get below the rim around that rosebud
What mixture ratio?
@@Storman77 glassbead made it like new but after installation is chocked up again. I feel its not reaching temp. I fitted a new unit a few days ago, massive difference. Much better.
I can tell you right now folks from experience you mixing this oil in there and you're screwed and let me explain why. This shit does not burn at 1100° inside there so one you're going to get soot whether you want to or not. Especially if you put the oil stuff in there mixing it with the diesel. This thing is not going to burn your used up oil and shit what you're going to be doing is cleaning it out every month You're going to tear it completely apart to get it to work I'm telling you you are fucking up messing with these other fuels putting them in there with the diesel but go ahead make your videos just let you know I warned you