Tesla Long Range V Performance convoy efficiency and range comparison - much difference?
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2024
- We’re doing this journey in convoy anyway so why not compare to see how much sacrifice there is when it comes to real world range and efficiency between the new 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance and a Dual Motor Long Range.
The LR used in this test is a pre-“highland” 2021 example with a heat pump but we’ve tested these alongside the long range highland previously and know they are pretty similar (the highland typically being a little bit more efficient).
Maybe you are thinking of changing but not sure if the reduced range of a performance will suit you. Is it too much of a sacrifice..?
Tesla do claim the new performance rear motor is more efficient so maybe it come close… let’s find out!
In this test we drive each car side by side on the same roads at the same time at the same speeds… the best way to get a true comparison!
Next video we start testing the performance 0-60 compared to previous versions (is it faster) and we have my full review on the new performance also coming very soon, now that I’ve covered over 1000 miles in its first week! I’ll share what’s good and what’s not so good!
Thanks for watching.
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04:40 Thank you so much for the conversion!
feedback: gotta say i love when you left the stats on screen because i can never remember the first cars numbers.
Glad they managed to give it both amazing performances and brilliant efficiency. It’s the best of both worlds.
165 wh/km... That is just good not brilliant.
In Bjørn Nyland's 90 kph test of this car (he did not do 120) this got worse consumption than an i4 M50, which was running at lower temperatures. And everyone was complaining about how thirsty that M50 was... so...
Good video Richard. Have a good week.
Great content guys
Another awesome comparison 👍🏻
If you do the math the LR was driving way slower based upon the information so it makes sense it would be more efficient. Here is the numbers.
Leg 1
P:
52mph
248w
LR:
40mph
210w
Leg 2
P:
47mph
266w
LR:
43mph
226w
Nice video, thanks for the km tranclation
Great comparison, must say I am super happy with my Model 3 RWD Highland for economy.
The rwd is the best one really. Great csr
The P is definitely worth the extra electricity, IMO! Looks so much better.
Don’t they look exactly the same besides the carbon spoiler?
@@MK-_-Rob There are other minor yet noticeable additions. The Performance adds brake vents and splitter so the front looks sportier, rear diffuser, sport seats, carbon spoiler, new wheels, lowered suspension. All contribute to a slightly sportier looking vehicle compared to the LR and SR.
But other than that, all 2024s look almost the same at first glance.
@@hisfatness522
Staggered wheels on the P as well. I have a 2024 MYP and I chose it over the LR. Of course I don't do much long distance driving due to working from home. On weekends I go a little over 2 hours and 120 miles.
@@haidesu572 Ah yes, forgot about the staggered wheels. That thing is going to chew through tires! Hope you're enjoying your MYP!
Got my 1st Tesla (M3SR) just over a week ago and the acceleration still amazes me, I've had performance BMW's yet the overtake in my Tesla puts them all to shame. Closest a car has ever got to riding big bikes where you have to pull out before applying the power rather than in an ICE where you have to plan a run up to the car you're about to overtake. Only issue I've had so far is some of the AutoPilot snafus like when I passed a car broken down on the hard shoulder of the M62 today and my car seemed confused and just slammed the brakes on as I went past, from 75 down to 50 in a second or two, lucky no one was behind me. Twice now when pulling back into the inside lane after passing a truck the car has emergency steered me back into the middle lane and I always leave trucks plenty of space. You had any fun(?) AutoPilot experiences to share?
The acceleration is is the best part of owning a Tesla. They are just faster than any other brand and yet still efficient unlike other brands. About autopilot, I strongly recommend to turn that off to avoid any issues and use only the collision avoidance and general cruise control. Keep focused all the time!
You'll need to get used to what is known as "phantom braking". I recently bought a Model S P100D as my first Tesla/EV and that also suffers from this erratic braking on Autopilot. To be honest I haven't been impressed with the Autopilot and lane guidance/assist RELIABILITY so far but maybe this will be fixed in a future update. Try an online search for Tesla phantom braking and you'll be surprised at the number of owners experiencing this. Never had similar problems in my Peugeot 508SW First Edition.
Go and try a P for a laugh. It'll alter your reality... belive me, I went from RWD to P, and it still blows my mind how violently fast it is. My brain cannot comprehend what a MS Plaid must feel like
@@DeanoEV135I just got a 21 LR and then paid for the perf upgrade - I concur plaid must be beyond comprehension at first !
I ride a 140bhp bike and this is very close in performance, faster from standing due to the rider 😂
@@majordelays4909 I’ve also got a BMW M135i that does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds but after driving the P it feels like 14.5 such is the real world difference. Startling
Cheers guys
We have 2 22 Model 3s. A Long Range on 19s and a Performance. Both LG 79kwh packs.
Consistently 10 to 12% difference in efficiency. Ride and noise is indistinguishable
I've just had a set of Cross Climates fitted to my 2021 LR.
To me, they seem slightly quieter than the Pilot Sport 4 they replaced.
Interesting!
Are you supposed to mix tyre types regardless of 2 Wheel or 4 wheel drive?
Ie all season and summer?
Would be interesting if you could test the 2024 M3P with 19" tires vs a 2024 M3LR also with 19" tires
OEM 19" wheels won't fit 2024 M3P.
@@Warrantti Interesting... do you know why?
@@Raymaster7482 Brake calibers are too large for stock 19 inch Tesla wheels.
Do you know when FSD will be UK able
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Did a 50 mile round trip to pick up and drop off a car for service today. Mainly A roads with some fast dual carriageway sections and some slow moving traffic in the town centre. My Kia Niro EV got 4.9m/kwh and the Hyundai Ioniq did 5.1m/kwh.
Really pleased with the efficiency of both cars, up there with the best of them.
They’re efficient ones 💪
Enjoying the videos
I think it would of been better if both cars wore 24plates
Hi
Can you get that full screen in 2021 LR ?
What do you think, Mr Symons, about Chinese electric cars? They are currently invading Brazil, including building electric vehicle factories! In Europe they are talking about taxing these vehicles so as not to harm the local industry! I am wrong ? Thank you, and much Health and Prosperity to everyone on your Channel!
Really questionable build quality
@@s.kxx1956actually build quality is solid. Just like South Korean cars. It’s quite a misconception thinking Chinese cars are not solid or well built, especially since most European automakers parts are made in china and their main stakeholders are Chinese.
They need to change their names for Europe to compete with BMW etc. Like who wants to pull up in a Yang Wang?
@@s.kxx1956a lot of Tesla are built in….. drum roll…China…
@@s.kxx1956this is a joke right?
3:33 where can i get the frunk emblem from. Looks great
It’s the zap part of our RSEV logo.
How are you converting mi/kWh to wh/km? :)
A used 2021 M3 seems to be a perfect value for the money.
Just got one, LR £25k 34k miles. There were cheaper but I was happy
Fuckkkk no it isn’t. Build quality and materials isn’t there window insulation and better suspension. The legacy m3 is all plastic and loud inside cabin
@@Fumbiii16 Be more specific. Rear window are now double glazed. Panels on sides have been changed to a carpet lined "plastic" molds. Suspension is now softer with more damping along with new damping in wheel arches. More sound proofing in wheel arches, however, if your M3 is refreshed 21 or later, it also has the same damping in the wheel arches. SR, LR all other components are the same in terms of motor, drivetrain and components. The latest refresh has ventilated seat along with new ergonomics. The rest of the changes are cosmetic and a matter of taste. If you don't want indicator stalks, go for the lates M3 refresh. If you want a carpet as a dash, then the latest refresh has you covered. If you want to save money, then go for the 21 model refresh. Or just wait for the Christmas discounts and you will pick up Tesla for at least 10% less than current price.
where did the total consumption of the odometer go?
do you experience any phantom breaking
Would you prefer Model 3 compared to the Model Y
Does the Highland still let the washer fluid in the drivers window or have Tesla added a small gutter up the windscreen yet?
Drivers window 😆
Definitely a bigger difference than expected. But I believe it's worth it.
In Bjorn Nyland's test this performance was even slightly less efficient than the i4 M50 at lower speeds (90 kph)
Richard please use your influence with Mr Musk and ask him to add a mi/kWh option. I can do the maths but why use up whatever I have left?!
😅 agree
Can you advise what tyres you'd go for for m3 sr?
Michelin or Hankooks
Richard , A model 3 high land long range also has a 150 km longer range than the performance model. So this doesn't come as a shock, does it? Try fitting 18" aero wheels on the performance model and test again. It could be fun and it gives the right picture. Otherwise, it's just due to the rims.
*richard
@@RSEV 👍 i know.. Must be tired 😂
Its the same for ICE vehicles, big wheels affect efficiency and comfort just as much. Has anyone fitted aftermarket air suspension to a 3 or a Y ?
Interesting but what is the efficiency of the 2021 battery, probably down by 5 or 6% from new, whereas the performance should have no more than 1% loss.
Can't get too carried away... winter is coming 😊
You do also get less mpg on ICE cars in the winter.
@@ChrisM752 sure. But not too much, nowhere near the depreciation as in an EV.
@@RogueDroid look at the numbers and they’re similar.
How come the 2024 had a lightening bolt on the bonnet not the traditional T?
Part of the RESV logo. They must have put it on themselves.
So Highland LR 223 wh/mi, 2021 M3 LR 226 wh/mil. No where close to the 10% Tesla advertises as the improvement. And Serge's comment that the difference is really minimal in ride feel, but said it is more noisy in the 2021 vs the Highland. Sounds like the bottom line is the Highland is a little quieter, but really not much other things to note as a real improvement. I would like to see that direct comparison run to see if that was just a fluke or if the previous car really is that close to the Highland. A lot of people could save themselves some decent money buying the pre-refresh car if the numbers really are that close.
Be a good test
Glad to hear that Tesla are finally sorting out the extremely poor ride quality on the model 3. Hopefully the Y gets the same treatment?
Breakthrough battery does 1 million miles & handles extreme temperatures
The Electric Viking
Hahahah you couldn’t name a worse source
That’d be his 87th “breakthrough battery” video this week.
@@oggyoggy1299 Or his 89th gamechanger!!
You kept asking the chap with you his opinion yet changed it and talked over him. What was the point?
If you are considering the performance, it means you should get it. Or you will regret it.
I like it 😁
@@RSEVgetting mine on friday. Had a lot of fossile turned cars, then X in 2017, then 3P 2019, YP 2023. Now going to a red 3P highland. Did a test drive. Missed model 3 gokart feeling, but the old 2019 was quite noisy and bumpy suspension.
I did run it on kw v3 and custom forged rims. But the new one will be stock suspension wise.
BRB
Ha! Driving a blue 2021 M3 LR myself and looking to upgrade to the highland model 3, so this is the perfect video for me lmao
Back continue
When’s Matt getting his hands on it Richard ?
🤐😏 I wasn’t in the office today…
Difference due to rims?
Wheels, tyres and performance motor.
Like a car, bigger engine = less efficiency…
Anybody with a performance model, get yourself the sexy burtons or sexy knob (yes I know 😂) from enhance auto, if you’re doing a long drive and want to save battery you can now activate the car to only use 1 motor. Trust me it work, obviously not as fast but mileage gain is real.
I don’t think the anti 🦅 💩 device is working on the M3P 🤔
Hello . I test today the new performance ..since i have a performance stealth 2019 i found is quiter , a bit more confortable ...and the rest ...aceleration ..feel same , maybe even a litle less untill reach 120, ( maybe LG baterie or ONLY 70% Charge) and a crap autonomy...really...a second hand LR is a better deal.
New performance is noisier on road than SR and LR with tyre noise.
I’m still testing but it is quicker than old car, IF battery state of charge is good.
State of charge does seem to be very important
@@RSEV hello.
Yes tottaly agree!
Can be in some conditions Faster by compare baterie level. But the feeling in push is not noticable all the time since variants as level baterie is a huge factor in the case .,as i wrote, maybe ONLY after 120..130 it feels a bit better...a bit!! . If people are buying for daily driving is not the car they think !!! As i Said ...range is very poor, as tyres are noisy and not as confortable as rwd SR and awd LR, as you wrote!
For my point of view and since ( as i have 2019 performance stealth with 18 wheels) 20 wheels are not good for daily...as even previous car in range is better ! If people are buying for extra speed ..is not what they think...if buying for some use daily and Confort ...range is poor , if ONLY status ..ok!!
To end...this car ONLY have extra power in some level baterie as the previous ryde worst the the compare awd LR 2024 ir even the SR ..and maybe less range then the SR.!?!
I hope i can be explicity for some ..in my point of view?!!
Couldn't take my eyes off the bird poo 😵💫
Probably waiting on an OTA update to remove it 😂
You are CZcamsr and a car dealer….is it really that hard to get a 22’ model 3 performance and do the proper comparison??
No, it’ll happen. But that’s what we were doing that day so it is what it is.
2021 LR about 20% more efficient? I find it hard to believe that there is such a big difference.
If you check owners forums that's about right. LR is the smart buy for most people.
Wheel size alone is 10%.
@@TheAegisClaw definitely
I personally have a 2024 LR, and it is crazy to me how efficient it is.
Yep, wheels, tyres and performance motor cost it c. 20%
Same happens with ICE cars of course.
Don’t you think it’s ridiculous that these 2021 cars have to have an MOT this year?
Why? All cars from 2021 have to have MOTs...lights can fail, tyres get worn just the same as any other car...
Hello guys
It's irrelevant
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Why can’t these freaking people ever compare the same car
LR to LR
Not standard to performance
Long range to performance
Long to standard.
So dumb