Disco Elysium: Calling Kim a Slur

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • Never would have done this if no one asked for it.
    Kim's actor puts on a good performance. I genuinely felt bad about this.
    0:00 The Incident
    1:23 Apologizing
    3:07 Continuing to be a Dick

Komentáře • 434

  • @God9OuterSpace
    @God9OuterSpace Před 2 lety +4975

    Hurting Kim like that is worse than setting a puppy orphanage on fire

    • @Frazer2
      @Frazer2 Před rokem

      Even when you are purposely trying to disappoint him even mildly, you absolutely FEEL like a piece of shit.

    • @jablinski_time
      @jablinski_time Před rokem +46

      I can confirm this

    • @assasinezioayditore
      @assasinezioayditore Před rokem +16

      Same thing tbh

    • @Jules-69lol
      @Jules-69lol Před 10 měsíci +3

      huh

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc Před 4 měsíci +3

      I realized that I would feel worse about saying this slur to Kim than about letting Kim get shit (but obviously both are horrible). Which is a strange thing to think, one could've killed him, the other hurts him only emotionally.... and yet...

  • @marskessler
    @marskessler Před rokem +576

    > I got good ending, now let's discover all the other content
    > You want me to hurt WHO?

  • @ninja3212
    @ninja3212 Před 2 lety +3204

    Disappointing Kim is heart-wrenching, but the part that really does it for me is Volition's reaction to you accepting that you're an irretrievable human catastrophe. Volition, who the whole game is trying to get you to face reality and do what is right for you, who is always level headed and unemotive, is absolutely floored that you don't even feel the need to change at all. That is true horror, your own self finally giving up on you and accepting that you don't even want to be better.

    • @Ooffoop
      @Ooffoop Před rokem +2

      I mean at a certain point fuck em

    • @tinyplaidninjas8868
      @tinyplaidninjas8868 Před rokem +265

      I confess, I put loads of points into volition, not because I need more Morale points, but because Harry desperately needs a voice in his head telling him not to kill himself.

    • @Adanu191
      @Adanu191 Před rokem +27

      I had my Harry be better for himself. Relying on Kim was stupid when he was plainly killing himself with the drinking. On top of that, Kin is far too uptight.

    • @Xander77Ru
      @Xander77Ru Před rokem +57

      "I don't want to get better. I want to get worse."

    • @safe-keeper1042
      @safe-keeper1042 Před rokem +61

      Yeah, holy shit, volition sounds so incredibly hurt and disappointed when he realizes you don't even want to improve yourself.

  • @katn3344
    @katn3344 Před 2 lety +3564

    This is the most painful thing I’ve ever seen in a video game

    • @frocco7125
      @frocco7125 Před 2 lety +129

      [EMPATHY]: easy - Success

  • @lifeinvader1016
    @lifeinvader1016 Před 2 lety +2688

    the whole "you've been calling me 'Kim' this whole time" thing was really cleaver of the writers

    • @Tuskbumper
      @Tuskbumper Před rokem +722

      100% I think It's easier to take it as Harrier is just an amnesiac and thinks like a child/ in an very immature way
      Which is why he's like "Kim look at this thing or that."
      But turning it on it's head with the "You have no respect for me, it all makes sense." was very clever I definitely agree.

    • @pabloc8808
      @pabloc8808 Před rokem +611

      @@Tuskbumper 100% that, especially because well, Kim never calls you out on it unless you choose to be an ass in this part of the game. This implies he doesn't actually mind Harry ignoring his rank and calling him by his name, as long as Harry shows respect towards him, the RCM and the case they're working on, but if Harry is an asshole towards Kim he takes note of the disrespect

    • @n0xure
      @n0xure Před rokem +252

      Just realized that Claire (the union boss) is pretty much the only character who calls you Harry - and you can alos take that however you want: at one hand it's a power move and clearly meant to mock the questionable authority of the RCM, but on the other hand: the fact that it's literally the first time in the game someone is calling you by your name is also disarming - he's only character shrewd enough to understand that someone high up at the RCM is trying to fuck you by putting you on that case with only Kim as backup; and even though he's exploiting that weakness - he acknowledges the human cost of the political games that you're caught in between.

    • @BlaizeEternal
      @BlaizeEternal Před rokem +217

      @@n0xure Kim will call you by Harry occasionally, usually it's out of concern though. More personal and empathetic like after you get shot (i think its if you have a high trust stat with him)

    • @maxmustermann-zx9yq
      @maxmustermann-zx9yq Před rokem +29

      ​@@n0xureI assume I'm not really spoiling anything to you when I say, that guy payed to have the other candidate in line for his position assassinated, he hoards the power and wealth by manipulating others to do his dirty work, so he doesn't have to risk anything himself
      He is "helping" Harry prove that the murder wasn't done by the Hardy Boys bc he already knows they didn't do it and it would be a justification to strike at the union, at the same time buttering Harry up in case he needs his report to "polished"
      You even found out that he had Harry shadowed since arrival and instead of stopping his self destruction they (its 2 twins BTW) had their agents collect dirt on Harry

  • @yepyepyepyep8604
    @yepyepyepyep8604 Před 2 lety +2596

    Kim being disappointed in you is worse than your own mother saying she's dissapointed

  • @googplusisawful1922
    @googplusisawful1922 Před rokem +880

    "if they don't mean anything, why do you say them?"
    damn. that's solid.

    • @davestrider9900
      @davestrider9900 Před rokem +53

      It hit me hard and I've never been even close to Harry's situation. It is a beautiful quote.

  • @Erlkonig6109
    @Erlkonig6109 Před 2 lety +1630

    hearing kim yell at you is one of the most terrifying things ever honestly

    • @ThePermanentMoose
      @ThePermanentMoose Před rokem

      I am proud to say the only time Kim had ever yelled at me was when I stuck my right thumb(my sword thumb) up my ass in front of him and Evrart

  • @GLENNACHEEMS
    @GLENNACHEEMS Před 2 lety +575

    my authority check was at 97% for this check and i fucking crumpled after failing it and having this happen

    • @rotveller9648
      @rotveller9648 Před rokem +14

      Same situation

    • @WWEECENA
      @WWEECENA Před rokem +57

      This is hilarious lmao, you poor guys, but moments like these are part of what makes the game great because you cant take anything for granted

    • @madeofmars
      @madeofmars Před 10 měsíci +35

      this, this is why i quicksave

    • @Romanticoutlaw
      @Romanticoutlaw Před 6 měsíci +34

      I borrowed your luck for a 3% roll that I succeeded first try, and I apologize

  • @globoboboglob3270
    @globoboboglob3270 Před 2 lety +903

    Fuck... I took IRL moral damage from watching this.

  • @shedal2571
    @shedal2571 Před 2 lety +1492

    Wow, he stayed quiet about not liking being called Kim; if you didn't go through this route, you'd never know.

    • @alazo
      @alazo Před 2 lety +370

      he says he *prefers* being called liutenant multiple times im pretty sure

    • @jzenhenko
      @jzenhenko Před 2 lety +169

      I definitely picked that up and always called him Lt Kitsuragi

    • @blablablanana
      @blablablanana Před 2 lety +439

      He also said that hes okay with being called kim because its short and convenient. I guess it just depends on your relationship with him or choices you make

    • @ryanspencer3106
      @ryanspencer3106 Před 2 lety +478

      It seems like he's fine with people he trusts and likes calling him Kim, but it's insulting when someone he dislikes doing it, as he sees it as them looking down on him and not acknowledging all his efforts

    • @jackuval9362
      @jackuval9362 Před rokem +96

      @@jzenhenko I didn't even know it was possible to call him Lieutenant instead of just Kim, in fact I always wondered why it felt weird to choose "Kim" options and it's because he doesn't call you "Harry" or "Raphael"

  • @Maedawg0001
    @Maedawg0001 Před 2 lety +1793

    there are so many parts of Disco Elysium I will never see. I never want to go through this. I never want to read this conversation. I never want to be in this situation. In a game where choices matter, usually it's fun to see where all of the choices lead, but not here. not this game. Some choices go places that hurt my own spirit so much, that I would never feel comfortable playing a game like that.

    • @thiccalbert
      @thiccalbert Před rokem +54

      So other people think like that too...

    • @kitovalle3981
      @kitovalle3981 Před rokem +123

      For me that's the one of the strongest points the game makes, such is life, most of the time you don't know what choices will lead you to hurting situations, and even if you do, sometimes you don't have any other option, sometimes we fuck up good, hell sometimes we don't even get that we fucked up in the moment or we are unable to accept it, disco elysium for me is about failing, and hurting, but must importantly, it is about surviving, living with the consequences of you actions, learning what you can and standing up in the face of literal monsters. The pale, the love of your life leaving you, even the case itself are all adversities outside of our understanding and it can feel like there's no hope, there's nothing you can do to stop these monsters from eating you piece by piece, except there is, you solve the case didn't you? Maybe if you push on you'll be able to defeat more of the monsters, and that ressonated with me a lot, but that's just my interpretation

    • @raspymorten
      @raspymorten Před rokem +103

      I'd take actual moral damage if I went down this route.

    • @kyubiiofrage
      @kyubiiofrage Před rokem +39

      Apparently if you say you see him as “a true *Vacholiere*”, he’ll really appreciate it as “no one has ever said that to (him) before.”
      So just in case you fail the dance check, you can still make it something really touching.

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Před rokem +27

      This is the only game that encourages you to NOT 100% it

  • @Battlefieldtripshow
    @Battlefieldtripshow Před rokem +1081

    The thing that hurts the most about this scene is that no one else in the room responds. No one calls him out, the music doesn't stop, no one even stops dancing. Nobody else in the room gives a shit.

    • @komikett
      @komikett Před rokem +118

      Oh, my bad, at first I thought it said “you might be imagining it, but it feels like Egg Head turned down the volume down. Such is his respect.” after Kim walked out, but it’s because Harry stopped dancing. 😢 ahhhh that’s so sad!!!! I thought Egg ahead noticed at first, but no one does anything 😖

    • @Sasha-jo4tw
      @Sasha-jo4tw Před rokem +53

      to be fair they're just kids. kids usually dont interrupt when adults are fighting

    • @tarfielarchelone2674
      @tarfielarchelone2674 Před rokem +15

      ​@@Sasha-jo4tw they're 30 lol

    • @Sasha-jo4tw
      @Sasha-jo4tw Před rokem +2

      @@tarfielarchelone2674 how do you know?

    • @sydneygorelick7484
      @sydneygorelick7484 Před rokem +35

      ​@@Sasha-jo4tw Andre is "older than 20" and balding. 30 is a reasonable guess

  • @EdgarAllanPogo
    @EdgarAllanPogo Před 2 lety +852

    Man upsetting Kim is like THE WORST thing. I would have save scummed if I ever failed this I don't even care. Like I feel sick just watching this.

    • @inkdash2341
      @inkdash2341 Před rokem

      I failed this check randomly, my authority stat was really high - and I was horrified by needing to call Kim a monkey fucker, so I reloaded and replayed HALF AN HOUR and then save-scummed until I won the dance check. Goddamn, sir, I can fail a lotta things but Kim deserves every ounce of my love and respect, and I will not have it otherwise

    • @rangergxi
      @rangergxi Před rokem +33

      Being able to call him a true Revacholier somewhat makes up for it.

  • @Sp0ttheCat1701
    @Sp0ttheCat1701 Před 2 lety +958

    Honestly as an Asian-American person I love this scene. Kim acts and says exactly what I wanted too every time someone was racist to me but I was too shocked to say.

    • @user-gg3xn4yh9u
      @user-gg3xn4yh9u Před rokem +121

      As an asian person too I honor how Kim reacts to racist comments. he is always calm but he knows what to say!!

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Před rokem +13

      ​@@user-gg3xn4yh9u Best husbando

    • @TheSonyron
      @TheSonyron Před rokem +3

      Why is it even a slur specifically for asians. I don't want to sound like an asshole but I literally don't know the context behind the slur. Can someone explain it, sorry for asking

    • @thetaaaa
      @thetaaaa Před rokem +91

      ​@@TheSonyron "Yellow" is a common and enduring slur for people of (usually) East Asian descent. It goes back to the 1700s but was popularized in the 19th century as the term "yellow peril" because a common way to refer to the perceived threat that Asian influence had on Western (American, British, European) lifestyles. The term is extremely racist and is based on skin colour.
      "Monkey" or "monkey man" is also a common racial slur, often for black people, but also used for just about any non-white ethnic group. It comes from the belief that non-white ethnic groups are somehow "less evolved" or more "primal" than white people.
      I did my best to explain this tactfully and accurately, but I am white and this is not my area of expertise, so if anyone reading this has any corrections or additions please let me know.

    • @safe-keeper1042
      @safe-keeper1042 Před rokem +17

      As a white guy growing up in a white country, I can't imagine. Must be so incredibly frustrating.

  • @LovelyLori193
    @LovelyLori193 Před 2 lety +560

    God it breaks my heart to see Kim upset

  • @one-cardpony460
    @one-cardpony460 Před 2 lety +413

    "I have to protect the investigation from you."
    I thought the way I played it was soul-wrenching, geez!

  • @jinx1987
    @jinx1987 Před rokem +115

    That should’ve led to an instant game over

  • @Frazer2
    @Frazer2 Před 2 lety +250

    "You fucked up and you couldn't even say you're SORRY." story of my life.

  • @alanspirand880
    @alanspirand880 Před 2 lety +763

    Oh noooo. Jeez, failing that authority dice roll has one of the most punishing consequences I've seen in the game. It feels so terrible when you *have* to say terrible shit because you failed a skill check, but that also makes this experience very real.

    • @uhoh7545
      @uhoh7545 Před 2 lety +92

      If doing a sick gainer on a grandma wasn't enough of a warning for failed skill checks, that's really on you

    • @NotBamOrBing
      @NotBamOrBing Před rokem +90

      @@uhoh7545 doesn't the game actually reward you for doing the sick gainer on the grandma? the amount you have to pay is reduced by like 30

    • @blakethesnake6686
      @blakethesnake6686 Před rokem +42

      @@NotBamOrBing 60 if you pass empathy check

    • @kyubiiofrage
      @kyubiiofrage Před rokem +16

      @@NotBamOrBingyou can also get it reduced if you don’t run and pass an authority check. Down to 30 if you’re lucky.

    • @janusceasar7851
      @janusceasar7851 Před rokem +32

      ​@@NotBamOrBing
      the game has a 50/50 rewards on good and bad choice. Even the game warns us that being too good in something will be detrimental to Harry.

  • @attetate
    @attetate Před 2 lety +233

    I failed a 97% roll and got this

    • @Noelciaaa
      @Noelciaaa Před 2 lety +48

      same with the mercenary confrontation. it was going so well and i also had 97% there to protect Kim and failed... HOW!!

    • @BooguyTheAdept
      @BooguyTheAdept Před 2 lety +46

      Yeah, I don't like the people who scam-save, but it's totally justified in this segment. And in mercenary brawl.

    • @Noodles4Ever1000
      @Noodles4Ever1000 Před 2 lety +5

      im here to offer my sincere condolences

    • @Noodles4Ever1000
      @Noodles4Ever1000 Před 2 lety +39

      IT HAPPENED TO ME IT LITERALLY FUCKING HAPPENED TOT ME WE ARE BROTHERS IN ARMS NOW I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS FUCKING HAPPENED TO ME

    • @googplusisawful1922
      @googplusisawful1922 Před rokem

      I would immediately save scum 😭💀

  • @weirdbug_
    @weirdbug_ Před 7 měsíci +54

    i got kim to dance and failed a 98% check right after that and harry screamed something like ''finally you monkey fucker'' I panicked and immediately alt+F4'd out of the game lmao

  • @gryynnn
    @gryynnn Před 8 měsíci +238

    I think it's good writing that if you fail the check, there's no way to back out of calling Kim the slur. Even if you've been making all the "right" choices with Harry and playing him as someone trying to get better, the fact that he has the capacity to blurt out a slur without thinking says a lot about who he was before losing his memory (and still has the potential to be)

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Před 8 měsíci +15

      Yes, but also.
      Feels bad hurting Kim :(

    • @gryynnn
      @gryynnn Před 8 měsíci

      @@genericname2747 Real

    • @gianni50725
      @gianni50725 Před 6 měsíci +10

      What? The man is capable of saying and doing all sorts of insane things in this game if you fail checks. Just look at the failed authority check with Titus (no matter what, you can't fully back out of doing something dumb in front of him). Trying to judge his past character based off of these checks is dumb.

    • @jonahulichny9874
      @jonahulichny9874 Před 6 měsíci +33

      @@gianni50725or maybe what op outlined just happens so much more than just calling Kim a slur. The “who harry was before the amnesia and has the potential to be” thing.

    • @jogclemson4430
      @jogclemson4430 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@giannih5072 The failed check with Titus is more proof that checks reveal who he used to be. He can threaten suicide to get what he wants just like he did when he first showed up to the Whirling n Rags

  • @amishninja1
    @amishninja1 Před 2 lety +316

    Daaaaamn. I've played through this game twice and didn't know you could even be that bad to him. Kim is so god-damned Lawful Neutral that you can call him a racial slur, prompting an emotional response born out of years of prejudicial trauma, double down on it, and he STILL sticks with the investigation. That's good honor.

  • @Se7enRemain
    @Se7enRemain Před 2 lety +418

    This scene was fucking fantastic. I literally covered my mouth in he real world when I realized what I made Tequila Sunset say. I got caught up in making Kim dance, so used to finger guns working I didn't even realize I called him a 'yellow monkey fucker.' My regret going into the apology was genuine

    • @tilmania361
      @tilmania361 Před rokem +22

      same here i got so excited by the idea of seeing kim dance i only went click-click-click until it was too late :(

    • @DixieSchizo
      @DixieSchizo Před rokem +2

      I think you mean Raphael Ambrosius Cousteau!

  • @anyoneattheendoftime4932
    @anyoneattheendoftime4932 Před 2 lety +231

    This is worse than Undertale's genocide route.

  • @ZwiekszoneRyzyko
    @ZwiekszoneRyzyko Před 2 lety +131

    This is why despite finishing the game multiple times I still cannot get the Baddest of the Bad Cops achievement. I simply do not have the heart to hurt Kim 😢

    • @DanPhantomFan
      @DanPhantomFan Před 10 měsíci +16

      I got the achievement on Day 1 but I felt horrible so I sent Harry to sleep on the trash the next day

  • @multicooldude131
    @multicooldude131 Před 2 lety +371

    Lmao I just beat this game today, Kim is one of the greatest characters of all time and it’s a crime to disrespect him like that

  • @n0t_kgb253
    @n0t_kgb253 Před 2 lety +113

    I felt bad even just watching this, holy shit.

  • @Jango172
    @Jango172 Před 3 lety +292

    i asked for this, oh my god you even did the worst possible choices please i need to sit on a roof for three hours

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  Před 3 lety +111

      Would it feel better if I did a compilation of being bros with Kim?

    • @Jango172
      @Jango172 Před 3 lety +67

      @@MuttonChopCop i wont come down until you do

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  Před 3 lety +44

      @@Jango172 Oof. I hope thats not the case. My upload schedule is trash.

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  Před 2 lety +64

      @@Jango172 making one right now. So far I recorded scenes of the aces low. the "crime bros" drama fail with the shopkeeper, joking about the body being dead, and dancing.
      I'm gonna add whistling while on the swingset, talking about how kim names cases, and the end of the tribunal.
      What else should be in the comp?

  • @InkAndSmudge
    @InkAndSmudge Před rokem +79

    It was interesting to hear Kim getting angry. I didn't realise calling him by his name came across as disrespectful either. His voice actor does a great job of sounding angry, I really felt this!

  • @FoolsGil
    @FoolsGil Před rokem +476

    I only wish the devs let Harry get punched out if you push it too far. Kim folds you flat, you wake up, he's gone, he reappears the next day, refuses to even speak about what happened.

    • @fluffyravens3758
      @fluffyravens3758 Před rokem +182

      That's the thing, isn't it? For one, it shows Kim's strength and fortitude to not do that - but for another, Kim knows that in their society he can't get away with something like that the way Harry can because of what he looks like. He's built up that massive restraint and force-of-will to make it so people *have* to take him seriously (it's telling that the Brow-Off shows that Kim's Authority is absolutely off the charts). Kim and Harry are great foils - they're only one year apart in age, both born Revacholians, both in the police force for twenty years (Harry has actually only been there for 18 years), but the way they've been treated in their world is very different.
      Even beyond the racist comments he gets from other characters in Martinaise, it's telling that Kim is as clever as you, and *considerably* more competent, and yet despite Past-Harry's constant drinking and crazy-difficulty-to-work-with, Harry's still been been offered two more promotions than Kim has over the same amount of time (to be a lieutenant double-yefritor instead of a lieutenant). If Kim lost his cool and hit Harry, it'd be blamed on him.

    • @8-bitmonster624
      @8-bitmonster624 Před rokem +81

      @@fluffyravens3758 In Harry's defense of his rank, though I have no doubt Revacholian's and the RCM treat Kim differently. It's stated in the game that Harry started working himself to death after the break up, taking roughly two cases a week! which has lead to his whopping 216 cases solved with only room for one more open case in his ledger. He got his rank cause of his eccentric superstar cop persona and unorthodox approach to interrogation I.e." the can opener". plus Kim was a junior cop for thirteen year technically which in my opinion is where the real prejudice was, seeing how clever and competent he was!

    • @fluffyravens3758
      @fluffyravens3758 Před rokem +9

      @@8-bitmonster624 That's true, thanks for adding on!

    • @8-bitmonster624
      @8-bitmonster624 Před rokem +10

      @@fluffyravens3758 absolutely! We're Disco Elysiusts here!

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Před rokem +1

      @@8-bitmonster624 That only happens if you choose those options though.

  • @xPrecisionx
    @xPrecisionx Před 2 lety +98

    This is the fucked-up alternate timeline where Kim treats you the same way precinct 41 does

    • @ginar2339
      @ginar2339 Před rokem +22

      It’s not an alternate timeline. It’s the consequences of your own actions. And based on the way the rest of 41 treats Harry, my guess is that he’s done something similar with all of them.

    • @Daniel_WR_Hart
      @Daniel_WR_Hart Před 8 měsíci +12

      @@ginar2339 You can call the woman officer horse-faced the first time you see her in person

    • @anusaukko6792
      @anusaukko6792 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@Daniel_WR_Hart Past-Harry was dangerously based jesus christ

  • @PandaLord13
    @PandaLord13 Před 5 měsíci +15

    You can shoot a kid in this game, and yet this is still somehow quite possibly the most evil thing you can do.

  • @enniusdrusus867
    @enniusdrusus867 Před rokem +65

    I've gone soft. I can't even continue watching this vid. Jesus. This game is so good at making you invest in the characters.

  • @polliniciocanario1698
    @polliniciocanario1698 Před 2 lety +155

    pls a compilation of being bros with kim

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  Před 2 lety +33

      making one right now. So far I recorded scenes of the aces low. the "crime bros" drama fail with the shopkeeper, joking about the body being dead, and dancing.
      I'm gonna add whistling while on the swingset, talking about how kim names cases, and the end of the tribunal.
      What else should be in the comp?

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  Před 2 lety +13

      There's another channel like mine. You might like some of his videos.
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  • @Floweramon
    @Floweramon Před rokem +133

    Damn. I felt bad enough when I failed a skill check with the gardener and just randomly pointed out that she was black, which she brings up later (this was early in my first playthrough and I didn't understand the system fully so I hadn't even thought to save so I could try again), but this... I would take losing hours of progress from not saving over going forward with that. Kim's disappointment hurts so much.

  • @MrFoxInc
    @MrFoxInc Před rokem +52

    I am so grateful that I never even encountered this scenario. It would literally be the only time where "If you die in the game, you die in real life (on the inside)" wasn't just a meme, it would have been real.

  • @MrFiremagnet
    @MrFiremagnet Před 2 lety +924

    Well, I'm a half asian in a culture that has racism pretty normalized, and I have to listen slurs almost on daily basis. They aren't that hurtful at all, to an adult person at least, but just as game said - it's like a broken record, heard one time too many. Feeling of alienation despite being diffirent in a look only is real. And his feelings and opinions are so on point. Hopefully it will make at least some people who play this game think about that stuff.

    • @TheButterMinecart1
      @TheButterMinecart1 Před 2 lety +106

      It's not so much that it's outright offensive, but more so that it's just tiring to hear.

    • @MrFiremagnet
      @MrFiremagnet Před 2 lety +62

      @@TheButterMinecart1 yes, exactly.

    • @LieseFury
      @LieseFury Před 2 lety +110

      i'm a white person so i don't experience racism but this is very similar to the feeling i get when people talk shit about trans people or Autistic people. like, haha. your funny percent joke is a real banger the 700th time.

    • @Milkman69ner
      @Milkman69ner Před 2 lety +14

      I’m white and experience racism now daily. It’s really damn sad how the world nearly got rid of racism in the 90s and now it’s just everywhere all the time

    • @TheButterMinecart1
      @TheButterMinecart1 Před 2 lety +42

      @@Milkman69ner *Did* the world nearly get rid of racism in the 90s?

  • @ejynk
    @ejynk Před rokem +38

    i'm an east asian guy and holy shit what he says is kind of just what i want to say sometimes. oh, man, this scene was so good because it's so realistic. nobody bats an eye, nobody calls him out on his bullshit, the victim is expected to and does in fact not retaliate because the fuck can you do in that kinda situation, where nobody gives a shit?

  • @alicebell4123
    @alicebell4123 Před rokem +36

    I’m curious how ‘continuing being a dick’ route affects confrontation with Precinct 41 when Kim gives you final evaluation and all

  • @arielc7730
    @arielc7730 Před rokem +30

    I knew you needed Authority to pass the check and I reeaaaaaaaaaaaaally wanted to dance with Kim. I passed the check and I have never been so glad about anything. I had no idea this was the fail outcome and H. O. L. Y. S. H. I. T

  • @baconiam4027
    @baconiam4027 Před 2 lety +67

    I couldn't go through with the failed skill check. Didn't even have the courage to leave the church, reloaded a quick save almost immediately...

  • @Kpsla
    @Kpsla Před rokem +35

    I love how he doesn't sound angry. He sounds hurt. Maybe this was the final straw, or maybe it was a devastating betrayal, but he wasn't prepared for it either way.

  • @122josh
    @122josh Před 2 lety +47

    What monster would do this Kim is love Kim is life

  • @gamessdd4254
    @gamessdd4254 Před 2 lety +77

    i'm a rough one but can't insult Kim. this scene definitely heartbreaking, i wanna hug this poor guy so much

  • @zaxxoid
    @zaxxoid Před 3 měsíci +5

    I have to remind myself that it's all fiction to stop myself feeling ashamed just for watching; that's how effective the writing is. Wow.

  • @dingleberryliespewer3177
    @dingleberryliespewer3177 Před rokem +37

    This is one of the most painful things I've seen in a video game. Kim is the best of the best, no matter what happened in my playthrough I knew he had my back so I was true to him. I cannot express how happy I am that I passed this skill check, this would have been the only failed check I would have save scummed.

  • @goosemoade5813
    @goosemoade5813 Před rokem +19

    To be honest I save scummed this check for like half an hour bc I had low authority. God this fucking kills me to watch

  • @snkhuong
    @snkhuong Před 2 lety +39

    as an asian guy grew up in the west, this hit me hard

  • @pastapirate
    @pastapirate Před 8 měsíci +14

    If I failed that check, I would immediately quit the game, no matter how much progress it would cost. This is just straight up heart-breaking

  • @luc1792
    @luc1792 Před 2 lety +47

    Jesus fuck. I didn’t realise it could go this badly

  • @Ahicksaf
    @Ahicksaf Před 2 lety +298

    Kim is the most non-judgemental most understanding person you'll ever meet in your entire life. No wonder his a video game character and not someone real. People like that don't exist

    • @seacrystal6189
      @seacrystal6189 Před rokem +45

      There are people like that out there, they're just very hard to find

    • @Daniel_WR_Hart
      @Daniel_WR_Hart Před 8 měsíci +1

      In my first playthrough I was very corrupt and racist, but I never got this scene because I failed the dance check so I was surprised that he could even get this angry

  • @LegalBastard
    @LegalBastard Před rokem +15

    Unfathomable pain, literally your skill sets give up on you improving after that point.
    I could not go through playing that way myself, and I actually regret hearing this/seeing this.
    Great work to the writers and actual creators behind Disco Elysium, but how dare you lol

  • @thelaughingrouge
    @thelaughingrouge Před 2 lety +23

    WHO DARES SLUR MY BEST BOY?!

  • @screamingphoenix8113
    @screamingphoenix8113 Před rokem +44

    Unironically, Disco Elysium portrays racism better than 99.9 percent of all media. I really hope they one day make an original movie or TV series, more people need to experience this.

  • @iva3839
    @iva3839 Před 2 lety +22

    omg this is so heartbreaking... scenes with Dora aren't even close

  • @Kuraiomo
    @Kuraiomo Před 10 měsíci +13

    "Games make you violent". Meanwhile I just wanna Kim to like Harry and don't wanna pick any mean dialogue options.

    • @Daniel_WR_Hart
      @Daniel_WR_Hart Před 8 měsíci

      Have a playthrough where Half Light is your main skill

    • @Kuraiomo
      @Kuraiomo Před 8 měsíci

      @@Daniel_WR_Hart Does not half light constantly tell you to kill people :^)?

  • @Jenny-zu6nm
    @Jenny-zu6nm Před 2 lety +57

    on my first play through i failed the check and this happened.......cant describe how guilty i felt

    • @Jenny-zu6nm
      @Jenny-zu6nm Před 2 lety +23

      i reloaded instantly though so i didnt even know there was a conversation to be had outside lol

    • @Noelciaaa
      @Noelciaaa Před 2 lety +10

      @@Jenny-zu6nm yeah same. i didn't even finish the dialogue, just intentionally crashed the game lmao. this, yelling at Acele and failing to protect Kim at the shooting, were the only "cheats". all the other failures were just funny. these were too painful.

    • @AreweAble
      @AreweAble Před 2 lety +18

      instant reload. replay the game. reinstall. burn down your home and start anew

    • @Jenny-zu6nm
      @Jenny-zu6nm Před 2 lety +15

      @@AreweAble nuking my hometown cus i made kim sad

  • @orangejuice782
    @orangejuice782 Před rokem +19

    shaking and crying while trying to unpause this at 0:46 but being unable to because i do Not want to exist in a world where kim is hurt like this

  • @nunbiz7328
    @nunbiz7328 Před 2 lety +12

    Harry: "Can't anyone take a joke anymore"

  • @strayd0g
    @strayd0g Před 2 lety +25

    this is so painful… kim… beautiful cinnamon roll too pure for this world

  • @DJCAT4545
    @DJCAT4545 Před 2 lety +35

    I want to give Kim a hug

  • @helioobianchi
    @helioobianchi Před 4 měsíci +3

    I'm gonna go play a genocide run in Undertale to lighten up the mood

  • @palomarivera5475
    @palomarivera5475 Před rokem +7

    Volition sounds like Kevan Brighting a bit when it's voice breaks from disappointment

  • @seaque.
    @seaque. Před 2 lety +98

    i was planning on superstar, racist, communist playthrough but seeing this makes me wonder if i can manage it.

    • @MuttonChopCop
      @MuttonChopCop  Před 2 lety +45

      It's 100 percent possible. It just may count some racist answers under facism in your journal.
      You can still be a fascist communist tho. Nothing stops you.

    • @seaque.
      @seaque. Před 2 lety +29

      Nothing... except feeling guilty of my behaviours during the game.

    • @TheChatterbox1991
      @TheChatterbox1991 Před 2 lety +10

      You can be a "less racist" facist in your playthrough.
      In fact if you do, Kim is lightly more sympathetic then not at all.

    • @avgvstvs7
      @avgvstvs7 Před 2 lety +11

      @@seaque. Game sort of treats all types of right wing thought points as same and jumbles them together, you can be a pathetic straight up racist like lorry driver or revacholian indepedence supporter monarchist yet it all comes down to same shit, also if you play as a kingsman nationalist you might even change your mind a little on Kim

    • @genderlesswhale2868
      @genderlesswhale2868 Před rokem +20

      I did it and I quit halfway because, while this is the worst interaction, there are so many micro aggressions and casual disrespectful things you can say to Kim. It made me realise that when Kim is quiet or sounds dismissive towards you in a normal run, it is nothing compared to the cold silence when he gives up on you (My first run was also a hyper empathy autistic goober kind of run- kind of rp'd myself- so the difference was soooooo jarring. Going from Kim being pleasantly surprised that you care about his feelings to the resignation that he's in another awful situation with a fellow officer, yet again.).

  • @thetoaster6413
    @thetoaster6413 Před 2 lety +23

    Thank you for doing this for all of us. I would never be able to go down this route, it genuinely hurts so much to make Kim dissapointed.

  • @laultimarebanada
    @laultimarebanada Před 4 měsíci +4

    I love this one because you not only dissappoint Kim, but Volition as well. That "That's it? You don't even want to change?" is so powerful. Volition is one of the only aspects of yourself that are actively trying to cheer you up and make you a better person, and cop despite the situation. And yet there it is, absolutely disappointed at your own incompetence.

  • @TheRandomYoYo
    @TheRandomYoYo Před 8 měsíci +5

    I must mention. This moment is one of the best representations of the human condition. You are there. In the moment. Everything is going right. Everyone there is on your side. Taking vibe notes from you. And then... then you misread it for one moment. And call, Lieutenant Kim, the one who has, against his better judgement, backed you up through it all, a slur.
    Everything in your mind then turns 93 degrees. Nothing can bring back the vibe, nothing can take back the words, which you threw in a fit of blinding energy, nothing can win back the Lieutenant.
    As if you learned nothing, and are just coasting through it all, thinking you are invincible.
    These seemingly simple moments, with no bearing on the important events form and shape the entire future of the relationship.
    Always keep your vibe in check.

  • @k80_
    @k80_ Před rokem +6

    “+1 Respects you” just makes it even worse.

  • @alleycatmoth
    @alleycatmoth Před 10 měsíci +5

    thank you for going through with this, i was able to go through with the genocide route in undertale, but this is waaaay too much for me i couldn't even imagine a playthrough of this game where i hurt this perfect man

  • @pigeon3264
    @pigeon3264 Před rokem +13

    Watching these options makes me want to open up my save to check on Kim even though we got the best possible ending and he's my bff :((

  • @Fr0stbite1801
    @Fr0stbite1801 Před 2 lety +17

    I'm not here to watch this video. I'm just here to say that if I, maybe while under the influence of a lovecraftian mind-devourer, ever decide to make this specific dialogue option, I renounce my human rights forever.

  • @corncornrocks
    @corncornrocks Před 8 měsíci +5

    Of course they hide one of my favorite dialogues behind the prerequisite of being an absolute dick.
    "What do you see when you look at me?"
    "A true Vacholiere."
    The vindication that Kim must have felt there makes me feel good inside, even though I'll never see this dialogue myself

  • @periforbylee
    @periforbylee Před rokem +4

    In my first playthrough, I never rolled back the progress except for this scene when I failed the Authority check. It was terrible and I did not want to continue, ended up not seeing Kim’s dance moves! Now looking for his dance moves and alternative scenes in CZcams. Thanks for uploading this.

  • @retrace445
    @retrace445 Před 2 lety +11

    a big thanks to you comrade for this video

  • @magdak6907
    @magdak6907 Před rokem +15

    I wanted to finish the game in 100% but my heart can't handle dialogues where we are mean to Kim

  • @gothamcowboy
    @gothamcowboy Před 8 měsíci +2

    god im so glad i passed this check on the first try, would have been devastating to fail and have gone through this. however, my morbid curiosity NEEDED me to find out what the scene was like, so im glad i could watch it here. thanks for uploading!

  • @HR-pl7yy
    @HR-pl7yy Před rokem +5

    I couldn't even force myself to watch«continuing to be a Dick» part.

  • @IshiiShiro8964
    @IshiiShiro8964 Před 2 lety +10

    Oh god judging from the comments I don't even know if I want to see it anymore,
    thank god I passed this check first try

  • @chair_imagination5053
    @chair_imagination5053 Před 2 lety +11

    Thank you fot doing this, it was very hard for me to do this in the game myself (Sorry for english, its not my language)

  • @AutieZo
    @AutieZo Před 6 měsíci +4

    I only spent 3 days with Kim, but i still feel heartbroken by the thought of hurting him

  • @RogerBluesky
    @RogerBluesky Před 2 lety +9

    It was... Such a painful and hard process, to finish watching this video. My curiosity and eagerness to find out more about the universe I'm so fatally in love with fought to death with all saint and humane that is in me... My heart just started bleeding.

  • @haoshenme
    @haoshenme Před rokem +8

    Wow now I am so proud of myself choosing the lieutenant option after the pinball task. Kim didn't give a clear response to that, but he did hint it here and there.

  • @NatNatey
    @NatNatey Před rokem +6

    It's interesting that Kim calls you "detective" at the end -- based on that one Esprit de Corps check, it feels like "officer" would have fit better. Though I guess at this point *both* serve the same purpose, huh?

  • @glitchmaster2672
    @glitchmaster2672 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The one time you are allowed to reload your save.

  • @hedgehog.of.cydonia
    @hedgehog.of.cydonia Před 2 lety +6

    „my half-brother” option makes me cry

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch Před 10 měsíci +5

    Kim do make a very good point though:
    He has always given Harry his title; either Detective or Officer.
    But Harry has always called Kim by Kim. Sure if you play a friendly character then at the very least he will shake it off, but that got me.

  • @komos3719
    @komos3719 Před rokem +5

    I'd rather die than let this occur

  • @kiritokun2365
    @kiritokun2365 Před 2 lety +15

    Jfc I actually started crying

  • @billtalent1
    @billtalent1 Před rokem +8

    This made me not want to finish the game. I wanted Kim to dance so I thought sure I'll do that. Then he just calls him a slur, and I'm like well this is not a very fair consequence.

  • @lauraarciniegas4883
    @lauraarciniegas4883 Před 10 měsíci +1

    How can I unsee this? It's just too painful for my heart

  • @plutototoh
    @plutototoh Před rokem +5

    I had heard that you could call Kim a slur if you messed up, one of the few spoilers I was grateful for to know I needed to save in advance just in case. It's been a while since I played and I've been curious bc this scene is infamous, but I couldn't even bring myself to look it up or watch it proper until now. It's way worse than I thought. I'm thankful you picked the kindest and the worst options, both, because I would never have the heart to do this myself :( Thank you for taking one for the team

  • @curiousauthor9827
    @curiousauthor9827 Před 9 měsíci

    thank you for doing this so i never have to but can still know what happens

  • @BrianHartman
    @BrianHartman Před rokem +4

    I think that this is one of those things that you really have to *try* to get. Who would be jerk enough to just stumble on it?

  • @drweegee123
    @drweegee123 Před 2 lety +19

    I don’t have it in me to watch the part where you don’t apologize

  • @lillydevil2486
    @lillydevil2486 Před rokem +4

    Oh my god, stop. It physically hurts me to even IMAGINE doing this to Kim
    Kim is the best :(

  • @thepancakemann
    @thepancakemann Před rokem +3

    Failing this authority check was the only time in my entire playthrough where I reloaded an old save due to failure.

  • @ceeryle
    @ceeryle Před rokem +3

    "So that's it? You don't even want to change?"

  • @GenTrollHD
    @GenTrollHD Před rokem +3

    I was just clicking to remember the covo and I accidently clicked that and had to reload my save when he left I felt like a POS