Part 3 - Where to next: Road to the Presidency

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  • čas přidán 21. 05. 2024
  • In today’s episode of Where To Next - Road to The Presidency: Malungelo Booi gets access to Orania - a town exclusively reserved for Afrikaners only and finds out why the May 2024 elections matter to some.
    Ziyanda Ngcobo tells a story of how activists in a coal mining town in Limpopo are constantly living in fear.
    Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.

Komentáře • 148

  • @ConsciousCaracal
    @ConsciousCaracal Před 24 dny +25

    Orania proves that there is profound freedom in communities taking back as many responsibilities as they can and not waiting for handouts.

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu9171 Před 24 dny +26

    If ORANIA is allowed, KZN can convert to ZULU state, to preserve their culture, have own currency, banks, powergrid, port,

    • @zanulabuschagne4826
      @zanulabuschagne4826 Před 24 dny +3

      Whats stopping you? Vote for someone that will do that.

    • @globalinsightuk
      @globalinsightuk Před 24 dny +3

      They can already do all of those things? None of that is anything special to Orania, they’re just the only ones that have actually gone and done it.

    • @isaacseleteng8472
      @isaacseleteng8472 Před 24 dny +1

      What is so special about Zulu nation? You not the first one to suggest this, but it will happen in your dream land or kindergarten

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 Před 24 dny +2

      ingoyama land already belongs to the zulu nation. it should be the powerhouse of south africa

    • @AndrewMcFarlane_1
      @AndrewMcFarlane_1 Před 24 dny +2

      Where are the designs of this utopia you talk about? I can point you in the direction of Pyongyang, they have a wonderful model... haha

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o Před 24 dny +16

    I love Orania, it's so clean, no security, no begging, just the way life suppose to be

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny +12

    Weak people fear when others people start making good life .

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Před 24 dny +1

      This is so true.
      Losers are always jealous of successful people and do their best to drag them down.

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o Před 24 dny +15

    Afrikaaners work hard and are very God fearing, they dont wait for handouts

  • @mosesmabele1255
    @mosesmabele1255 Před 24 dny +16

    What's stopping the rest of the country from organizing itself like Orania?

    • @marvingalane2908
      @marvingalane2908 Před 23 dny

      Unity is what the south African community is still lacking bt we are learning

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny +5

    Weak people can ot fix their own problems strong people fix their problems not blame others ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
    @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Před 20 dny +3

    Imagine if the whole of Africa was as well run as Orania.

  • @Ginger4789
    @Ginger4789 Před 24 dny +11

    They don’t bother anyone leave them alone 😢😢😢

  • @keneuwematekane1497
    @keneuwematekane1497 Před 24 dny +9

    Appaluds them they smart 🎉🎉🎉

  • @marvel1978
    @marvel1978 Před 20 dny +1

    I really hope this is successful. Maybe others can follow by example.

  • @tb10183
    @tb10183 Před 24 dny +5

    look at the stark difference between Orania and these other communities...!!

  • @kipronosangpaul5229
    @kipronosangpaul5229 Před 15 dny

    I agree with Orania. Everyone should keep her culture, Language to continue many generations, this also agree with nature.( After the Tower of Ba bel peoples was given different Languages, cultures, lands and that cannot be broken)!

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    You see the people when no one help.them but they have strong beliefs in help you self before government helps you,

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny +1

    Weak people most choose bad government which .take the dignity a way by lack of service delivery

  • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
    @user-hn3ve5bu4o Před 24 dny +2

    If only KZN looked like Orania, I'm not white but mann only a white man can do it, no offense only true

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    People who do not love themselves or do not have confidence the user obesstion with others community or obesstion with race

  • @zuzemoyo7696
    @zuzemoyo7696 Před 24 dny

    CAN other people make their own ORANIA.????

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Před 21 dnem

      Nothing stopping them except that you have to work hard and not steal.
      That automatically exclude 3/4 of South Africans.

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    During Jeasu jealous people want to claim Jeasu work is their work

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people can not see others people progress the think does people have to give them their progress

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    People can not clean their own house are very raist and anger and jealous to see others are organizing and them defunction.

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people are most complaining even if the get sick the blames others

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people alway fear and the do not have confidence fir themselves and the obesstion with other .

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    State learn from other so they can show you how to provide drinking to citizens

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people do not have confidence for themselves that is why the want to live others

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people alway compare their miserable life with others strong people fix their miserable life by working hard

  • @Pierreebertsohn
    @Pierreebertsohn Před 24 dny

    uh uh.....uhhh 🤣😂

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people away obesstion with others people progress because jealous can not make the rest

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people mosty thinking about valiant stealing not about building

  • @Hrodwulf9
    @Hrodwulf9 Před 23 dny

    Love Orania

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny +1

    Weak people obesstion with others community and race because the are not confident to fix their own community

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people do not have confidence for themselves

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people away talk negative about other people and the things is them is good.

  • @Les12archanges
    @Les12archanges Před 24 dny +2

    So we go in Europe or America and build an Orania of Zulu! Can anyone tell me if it will be accepted?
    Orania has started to create diplomatic relations with Flanders, Autralia...
    I hope intelligence community is monitoring closely what is happening here.

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Před 24 dny +2

      Ever heard of the Amish ?
      There is nothing stopping you from starting your own commune and choosing who you want to be in it , provided you obey the rules of the land you live in.

    • @Hrodwulf9
      @Hrodwulf9 Před 23 dny

      If you could ever do that, which you can't, but hypothetically if you did that Europeans would respect you and they wouldn't have a problem having Zulus in their lands.

    • @Les12archanges
      @Les12archanges Před 20 dny

      @@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Amish, of course they are European in a European made country.
      Orania is illegal under the spirit of democratic SA.
      Thank you for the new town. We are going to enjoy it as black SAns. Wait and see

    • @Les12archanges
      @Les12archanges Před 20 dny

      @@Hrodwulf9 stop smoking what you take. It seems not to be doing any good to you .

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Před 20 dny +2

      @@Les12archanges Yes , you'll turn it into a rubbish dump in a week.

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people claim every thing is their

  • @NicoleneTsogang
    @NicoleneTsogang Před 24 dny +14

    Do people think about what will happen after 70+ years when orania is huge and backed by western powers , when they start to want more land , another Israel and Palestin, this time in Africa

    • @153tidesthatbind
      @153tidesthatbind Před 24 dny

      Woah, I've never thought about it that way

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 Před 24 dny +3

      these guys are stuck in the northern cape where no one wants to live. they won't bother anyone

    • @georgephutsisi8838
      @georgephutsisi8838 Před 24 dny +2

      @@lm_b5080 never say never. I reckon more ambitious people will emerge from orania and western oppressor will back them.

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Před 24 dny +1

      The Afrikaner community is about 3 million yet after 30 years of existence , Orania is a town of 2000 .
      What makes you think that it's going to grow much bigger ?
      If SA was in good shape the town would be even smaller.
      I really don't blame people for wanting to move to a place where everyone is employed with no crime and everything functions properly.

    • @ConsciousCaracal
      @ConsciousCaracal Před 24 dny +3

      That's just "wit gevaar" fearmongering. You clearly don't understand Orania's ideals and philosophy. Ask yourself why they banned exploiting cheap black labour in their town.

  • @HWFrancois
    @HWFrancois Před 24 dny

    This is a disgrace to South Africa. What happens to Orania when africa becomes united under one's governance?

  • @kazer353
    @kazer353 Před 21 dnem

    Can black do this in Europe

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Před 21 dnem +1

      Do you mean create a crime free . well maintained community with everyone in it a hardworker ?
      Probably not.

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people alway went to take others people things by creating like against others.

  • @Hrodwulf9
    @Hrodwulf9 Před 23 dny

    Dutch descendant Boers have a lot in common with Israel, we are the Israelites of Africa. Therefore we should carve out our nation here just like Israel has done in their promised land

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people have little bit of mental issues that is why the want to take others people progress

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    People who are weak the using compare community state acting by fixing

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people alway obesstion other people progress and the claim is their progress even is not their progress

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people alway things they are victims

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people the alway think people the do not like them

  • @esahm373
    @esahm373 Před 24 dny

    About the Limpopo example:
    What is the government supposed to do if kids are starting to have babies at 14 years?
    This is a clear failure of the parents and community, not of the government!
    You failed to educate the children about sex and its consequences.
    Now, what are most of these unplanned babies going to be once they have grown up? They are going to be unemployed citizens once again blaming the government.
    Unplanned babies born into impoverished conditions = future unemployed citizens.
    Most high GDP countries have a low birth rate, most poor countries have a high birth rate. Think about that for a minute!

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people will seat in chairs critics other state fixing they community

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    For weak people to fix their community the wost time obesstion and racist remarks against others

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Před 24 dny

    Weak people alway compare state fixing

  • @Jitesh_Dayal
    @Jitesh_Dayal Před 24 dny

    ANC propaganda channel is in Orania.

  • @afroisme5750
    @afroisme5750 Před 24 dny +2

    ....the fruits of the ANC; Orania...here comes another Lesotho in the heart of South Africa...how can a Government allow this nonsense!!!...

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Před 21 dnem

      Are you scared of 2 000 successful , law abiding ,peaceful , taxpaying citizens ?

  • @esahm373
    @esahm373 Před 24 dny +1

    Orania has a right to exist!
    But not in South Africa!
    In fact: not even in the modern day Netherlands would such a ethnically exclusive gated settlement be legally acceptable.
    Yet, as South Africans we are supposed to accept this Cape Dutch exclave? No!
    And can we please stop referring to Cape Dutch Boere as "Afrikaners" (= Africans)? It's a cultural and identity appropriation!

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 Před 24 dny +1

      remember afrikaners were put in concentration camps by the british. penuel had a great interview with this guy. they're preserving their culture and building ties with other black traditional communities.
      their argument is south africa's economy was built on exploitation of black labour - to build an inclusive community you must work for yourself and not abuse anyone for cheap labour

    • @globalinsightuk
      @globalinsightuk Před 24 dny

      Afrikaners are not Dutch, they have a distinct language and culture and also it’s a unique mix of Dutch, French and German ethnicities. It would be like saying white Argentines are just Spanish. And to be clear it isn’t a gated settlement, there are no gates, walls or checkpoints, it’s just a town. And it’s all private land so they have a right to an admissions process, it’s been challenged and upheld as constitutional in court. Different cultural groups have a right to self determination in South Africa and how else could they exercise that but through having an area where they are a majority. These guys deliberately picked a small, sparsely populated and highly undesirable part of the country. They aren’t bothering anyone, they pay their taxes.

    • @user-hn3ve5bu4o
      @user-hn3ve5bu4o Před 24 dny

      I admire the afrikaaner, they just so different, Orania I love you❤

    • @esahm373
      @esahm373 Před 24 dny

      ​@@globalinsightuk Thanks, but I'm well aware of "Afrikaners" cultural origins. I didn't say "Dutch", I said "Cape Dutch", which is a more appropriate term to describe the group wrongly referred to as "Afrikaners". "Afrikaner" means "African" in Dutch and other Germanic languages. If you say "Afrikaner" in German, Modern Dutch or any other current day Germanic language (except "Afrikaans"), you are literally referring to an indigenous African person!
      Hence, it's a form of identity stealing and cultural appropriation by the Cape Dutch s3ttlers! That in light of a history, where actual Afrikaners (= Black Africans) have been disenfranchised and denied their basic rights on South African soil. Seems problematic: you disenfranchise a people and then claim their identity as yours, to make you look more legitimate!
      I'm well aware that the Cape Dutch are not exclusively of Dutch origin, but also have a significant German and French Huguenot element, but due to their language, which is in essence a Dutch dialect (or more precise: a language that has developed from 17th century Dutch dialects spoken by the lower agrarian classes and differs from modern Dutch in the sense, that it's grammar and vocabulary lacks sophistication and granularity) they have maintained more cultural proximity to their Dutch cultural origins than to French or German culture.
      An admission process that selects tenants based on their "racial" background is not permissible within the confines of the South African constitution and laws!
      By the way: Most Argentinians have an Italian origin, unlike other Latin American countries with predominantly Spanish or Indigenous background population.

    • @esahm373
      @esahm373 Před 24 dny

      @@lm_b5080 What exactly is "their culture"?
      You mean a colonial Cape Dutch way of living that evolved from forceful occupation of South African territory by foreign settlers, who expanded the territory to disenfranchise the indigenous population and create an entity based on racial discrimination and bigotted beliefs?
      A culture that produced Apartheid, Baaskap, Vlakplaas, Project Coast and the Soweto 1976 massacre of school children?
      What kind of "culture" is that?
      If they don't identify as South Africans, then they are foreign and should be viewed as such.

  • @blackrhythmrecords8691

    Racists