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#83: Basics of RF Mixers in Radio Receivers / Mixer Tutorial / Frequency Conversion

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  • čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
  • This video describes the basic properties of RF mixers, in the context of using them for frequency conversion/translation such in the application of a radio receiver. The input and output signals are shown on the oscilloscope, and the spectrum of the output is also shown, illustrating the various frequency components that are produced by the mixing process. The concept of IF filtering in a receiver is also illustrated. The video does not go into the design of mixers, the different types of mixers, or how to select a mixer for a given application. The notes for this video can be found here:
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Komentáře • 423

  • @bmac3933
    @bmac3933 Před rokem +16

    I have to say that your videos are so informative and useful for a budding electrical engineer. I feel my professors skipped past many of the detailed explanations you've provided and you've really helped fill in the gaps. Cheers!

  • @Afrotechmods
    @Afrotechmods Před 11 lety +26

    Everything you do is awesome.

    • @snasturbate1087
      @snasturbate1087 Před 2 lety +3

      you are absolutely right. I am sorry to necro this old comment. But thanks to you 2 guys and a few others ( Mr. Carlson's lab, Necroware etc. ) for the past 2 years I have developped myself enough in electronics, to be hired as a tech, passed my Ham license, and I am on the verge of starting my own repair company ( july 2022 .... in theory ) Huge thanks, we need more people like you guys, you are drivers of changes. much love!!

  • @kenanshobbies9970
    @kenanshobbies9970 Před 2 lety +13

    Finally!! An explanation of a mixer that I can understand. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALAN!! Great video; as are all your other videos!!

  • @slithytoaves8637
    @slithytoaves8637 Před 4 lety +29

    Great video. Showing the mixer output helps greatly in understanding the function of not just the mixer, but the functions of the filters. I've seen a number of these type of videos describing receiver systems, but nobody has shown the concepts so clearly and concisely. Thanks!!

  • @tomsmith3045
    @tomsmith3045 Před rokem +3

    This is a great demo. Seeing the time and frequency domain together, and with the unfiltered and filtered mix response is perfect.

  • @allwaysofcontending
    @allwaysofcontending Před rokem +3

    Dude your the man. My god this is so good. As a recent engineer new to the field the level of education you offer is just superb. 14 minutes of video bringing so many concepts to life. Well done!

  • @jackrippah
    @jackrippah Před 7 lety +14

    Thanks for all the great work you did on this video... Setting up the lab, showing the schematic with a clear and slow narration of each in conjunction with the other which produces a crystal clear, Sin and Cos free explanation of how an RF mixer works. Thanks!

  • @MrTysonjharris
    @MrTysonjharris Před 8 lety +17

    Phenomenal video, thank you. I watched no less than 20 videos on super heterodyning until I arrived at yours and then the concept became clear as to what the role of my 6A7 pentagrid converter is. Thank you for Sharing your expertise.

  • @patrickoneillnl1966
    @patrickoneillnl1966 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh my God I love your videos. Your block diagrams give such great insight as to the flow of signal and how it is changed. Then your equipment shows how we can look at those signals being changed. Finally, you provided a great explanation as to how a band pass filter can help the mixer not have to create an IF from two incoming RF signals. Excellent!

  • @jspencerg
    @jspencerg Před 8 měsíci +1

    A masterpiece of demonstration and explanation. Your notes are the best.

  • @viswatess
    @viswatess Před 7 lety

    Only hands on experienced guys can able to give clear explanation like you. Thanks for doing. Please continue your good work.

  • @allenmccarty
    @allenmccarty Před rokem +1

    You covered 100 pages in Art of Electronics in 10 minutes, and I got it, tnx

  • @dr.rezwanurrahman336
    @dr.rezwanurrahman336 Před 5 lety +2

    Really a great video. I did it in my graduate school and then moved to server design engineering. Through this demonstrations, I can brush up some of my microwave/RF design knowledge. Thank you much!

  • @jampskan5690
    @jampskan5690 Před rokem +1

    So that's how that works. Thank you for the clear explanation with visual examples.

  • @imboredsauce
    @imboredsauce Před 8 lety +3

    I recently got into electronics and your videos help more then ever. I love the way you create your videos.

  • @omsingharjit
    @omsingharjit Před rokem

    you are at the top of Explaining RF Electronic and Radio Communication in Easy way

  • @kanagarajpalanivel8271

    Great video.I am a physician MD from India.Amidst Covid-19 very interesting.Clearly shown Lo , RFin, IF out, various spurious waves and way of tuning by mixer. Clear use of 10.7 ceramic filter.Again Thanks

  • @shravan8848
    @shravan8848 Před 6 lety

    Been reading a RF Microelectronics book only to fall half asleep. Thank you for the video. It's very illustrative and intriguing.

  • @samcutler5983
    @samcutler5983 Před 3 lety +2

    This clears up so much for me. Thank you. The one thing I don't quite understand is how to choose an amplitude or RMS value for the LO. I understand that if we want an IF freq of 455kHz, then the difference between F(LO) and F(RF) should be 455kHz. But how do we decide what the peak-to-peak voltage of the LO signal should be?

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  Před 3 lety +2

      That depends entirely on the design of the mixer. The specs for the mixer will state the LO drive power. Often times, mixers are called Level-n, such as Level-7 or Level-13, indicating that they want a 7dBm or 13dBm drive level.

    • @samcutler5983
      @samcutler5983 Před 3 lety +1

      @@w2aew Interesting. Can't seem to find anything on the NXP SA606 datasheet. I'll keep looking around.

  • @JohnRaschedian
    @JohnRaschedian Před 5 lety

    Very valuable presentation! I could not get much of the details but the set-up alone teaches a lot, probably worth 500 pages of a book you would never get in the first place. Thank you Alan!

  • @yetijetn6360
    @yetijetn6360 Před rokem

    Thank you for showing the waves on the oscillator that show the various possible frequency images. I was having trouble visualizing what was really going on from the words in theory.

  • @MrPwrt
    @MrPwrt Před 9 lety +1

    Thanks for the helpful video. I'd really appreciate it if you can explain how the amplitude powers are calculated theoretically. For example, at 17.70 MHz the spectrum analyzer reads -50.9 dBm. I want to know how that value is found. Cheers

  • @johnwest7993
    @johnwest7993 Před 2 lety

    I've been watching and reading enough radio theory that I watched this introduction to mixers and didn't actually learn anything. I appear to have graduated from the "Basics of" videos. :) It's time to watch some of your more advanced videos. I'm learning. Thank you.

  • @radoslawbiernacki
    @radoslawbiernacki Před 2 lety +1

    Wahhhh sir this was better than all my school rf lesson's!

  • @gabramlet
    @gabramlet Před 7 lety +2

    One of the best explanations I've heard. Thank you so much for your videos you are a great teacher.

    • @gabramlet
      @gabramlet Před 7 lety

      I enjoy all your videos you have a gift for teaching electronics

  • @microreniassance2929
    @microreniassance2929 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Working an SX117 trying to get it tuned up after suggested circuitry upgrades. Still grappling with all of the details around SuperHet receivers and how the LO and the Fin come together in the mixer creating numerous product frequencies that come to bear on the IF filter and the filtered output results. Still confused on some aspects but with the help of your great videos, I'm getting there! Thanks again.

  • @ChrisWilson5006
    @ChrisWilson5006 Před 11 lety

    Truly excellent, I have more of a grasp of IF functionality after this video than after reading umpteen text based explanations. Brilliant, and many thanks for turning on the light at full brightness :)

  • @SeAfasia
    @SeAfasia Před 2 lety

    Read all intructions again and again.....as lesson....thanks for posting Alan...Dinos

  • @1946Valentino
    @1946Valentino Před 7 lety

    Congratulations for your clear, very very clear explanation and excelent demonstration. I loved to know the Tektronics MDO4104 time and frequency domain. Back in the 70's i used to work with spectrum analyzer. I am an electronics engineer in Brazil.

  • @ggattsr
    @ggattsr Před 11 lety

    Thanks so much for the time and effort and thought that you put into your videos. Topics that I thought I understood are made so much clearer. Your schematics, and outlines are so concise yet easy to understand. You have a "gift" for teaching. Thanks for sharing it.

  • @watsok
    @watsok Před 6 lety +5

    Excellent presentation on the subject...like always. Thanks much.

  • @lawrencejelsma8118
    @lawrencejelsma8118 Před rokem

    Excellent video on Mixer IC NE602 chips to understand how they work in RF analog designs. 👍 After the amplifier of the antenna signal I'll see the mixer around there also.

  • @Babaluuable
    @Babaluuable Před 9 lety +5

    Excellent video, simple yet incredibly clarifying. Thank you so much!

  • @WR5RR
    @WR5RR Před 11 lety

    Very nice demo and explanation Alan. I know how the rf circuits work but it's nice to see the thory explained and see the changes visualy on the scope. Lot of work to put this video together thanks.
    Ron

  • @octavmandru9219
    @octavmandru9219 Před 6 lety +1

    Alan, thank you. You really have a beautiful way to explain electronics

  • @patrickbouldinkm5l143
    @patrickbouldinkm5l143 Před 3 lety +3

    Alan, this was absolutely an awesome video - great setup for the explanation. KM5L

  • @jonathanbignall1198
    @jonathanbignall1198 Před 7 lety

    Very helpful video, your clear explanations are really helping me to better understand concepts which I hadn't entirely grasped before. Thanks a lot.

  • @bblackdogg4352
    @bblackdogg4352 Před 2 lety

    Thank You so much, Alan. I have repaired many vintage amps but always come to a dead stop on the tuner sections. I just picked up the required UHF test equipment and I'M GOING IN. Mini spectrum analyzer with NF probe and UHF SG. Have a Marantz 2220b with no stereo lock. Might just be in the MPX demodulator or IF amp but I want to see it all! What a great video!

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  Před 2 lety

      Did you see my recent video on how a superheterodyne receive works?

  • @valentinobergamofilho4330

    I am from Brazil.Excellent video showing theory and practice! I loved your ressources, specially the scope with mixed domain! Congrats!

  • @DavidGillooly
    @DavidGillooly Před 11 lety

    Excellent video and use of real signals and filtering to explain the topic. I wish I had seen this type of explanation in my EE education long long ago!

  • @dave-d
    @dave-d Před 7 lety +1

    Ah Ha! Finally. Been trying to get my head round this for ages. Thank you. Great explanation.

  • @joem5386
    @joem5386 Před 4 lety

    Very well done. Easy to understand and follow. Including the test equipment along with the schematics really helped with understanding. Thanks!

  • @TheMultiplexer
    @TheMultiplexer Před 3 lety +1

    Extremely good explanation and visualization! Saved it so I can watch it again :D

  • @TheApplianceCrew
    @TheApplianceCrew Před 5 měsíci +1

    Excellent explanation and video, thank you.

  • @binarybox.binarybox
    @binarybox.binarybox Před 2 lety

    Very well demonstrated and explaining image frequencies.

  • @Arijit_VU3ICT
    @Arijit_VU3ICT Před 2 lety +2

    Wow... Lots of respect to your work... Thank you sir... Please make video on what is BFO and how it is used to decode cw and ssb signal..

    • @Arijit_VU3ICT
      @Arijit_VU3ICT Před 2 lety

      Sir plz make a video on bfo's working.... Please sir..and why it is used? With this type of practical demonstration...

  • @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE

    This is a really good video! I'm pretty much a beginner, you explained mixers so well I got it first time. Thank-you!

  • @thecombatengineer7069
    @thecombatengineer7069 Před 5 lety

    binge watching all the circuit tutorials, trying to remember to like and comment on each as well

  • @slcea7
    @slcea7 Před 4 lety +2

    New ham here. I found this very educational. Thanks for the vid.

  • @jimg4247
    @jimg4247 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you , such a clear and understandable description !

  • @ELJORGE1
    @ELJORGE1 Před 11 lety

    Great video as always, i learn a lot from these. A lot of this i get at university but theres no teacher like you, very nice practical examples. Thank you!

  • @harisahmed5680
    @harisahmed5680 Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you so much for your demonstration, Really helpful to understand the concept of SupHet Mixer

  • @RichardHayes
    @RichardHayes Před 6 lety

    Excellent presentation, explanation, and demonstration. It really makes the concepts clear.

  • @intotheblue50
    @intotheblue50 Před 5 lety

    Fascinating, I'm taking up SWL and will be revisiting this many times. Well planed out presentation and description, loved it thanks.

  • @colinpamplin9976
    @colinpamplin9976 Před 7 lety

    very good video. Using the spectrum analyser made it all become clear. Thank you for taking the time to make this video

  • @viswatess
    @viswatess Před 8 lety

    Excellent explanation about the mixer products with practical lab test results. Great job sir. Thanks.

  • @siphentlangano3428
    @siphentlangano3428 Před 7 lety +1

    great video, thank you very much Sir. I almost went down the way of ganged tuning of the LO, RF amp and mixer. I am actually working on such project for my final year design.

  • @jimvashro2872
    @jimvashro2872 Před 4 lety

    thank you - great video, clear concise, and a great demonstration that was easy to follow but also included a tremendous amount of incite into the function of a mixer and the resultant IF signal. This answered my question about Heterodyning.

  • @jameswarner3599
    @jameswarner3599 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video, was exactly what I was looking for. Concise and clear with a demonstration. Can't sk for more!

  • @emi22n
    @emi22n Před 9 lety

    I like how you make it sound so easy.you're a great teacher.

  • @munirpatel3361
    @munirpatel3361 Před 8 lety +1

    Amazing job! Informative yet easy to understand videos! Thanks a lot !

  • @mattmueggenberg9430
    @mattmueggenberg9430 Před 7 lety

    This helps so much. I appreciate the example and the scope outputs as a demo. Thanks

  • @billysdomain
    @billysdomain Před 11 lety +2

    Really great video Alan, would love to see more on matching, especially without using baluns/transformers, L's and C's would be a great tutorial

  • @nThanksForAllTheFish
    @nThanksForAllTheFish Před 11 lety

    You certainly have a gift for teaching. Thank you - and if you had a 'donate' button, I'd hit it.

  • @shreyamandanna7473
    @shreyamandanna7473 Před 3 lety

    Brilliant demonstration, thanks a bunch!

  • @aaronr.9644
    @aaronr.9644 Před 7 lety

    Great stuff! I can't get enough of this channel. So good.

  • @chuckpool685
    @chuckpool685 Před 6 lety

    Sir, you put a lot of work into this video. And, it was an outstanding educational presentation. Thank you. 73, Chuck - AA5WG

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  Před 6 lety

      Thank you for your kind words, Chuck. I am happy that you enjoyed this video.

  • @anuradhapriyankara5226

    Thank you man! Now I understand all the mathematics shits explained by my professor, just by looking at your video.

  • @kevinlai9179
    @kevinlai9179 Před 5 lety +1

    you are a legend, saved me at work.

  • @tmiller9099
    @tmiller9099 Před rokem +1

    Great demonstration.

  • @worldwide1376
    @worldwide1376 Před 3 lety

    Excellent very well presented video clearly explained. Thank you.

  • @CodeJeffo
    @CodeJeffo Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much for sharing this with us.

  • @Aemilindore
    @Aemilindore Před 6 lety +2

    So grateful to you for producing this type of content. Don't really know how we can help you in return.

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  Před 6 lety

      I'm happy that you see value in my content.

  • @tunicana
    @tunicana Před 11 lety

    Thank you Alan, you made my radio courses simple and easy

  • @adelmotlhabinyana7553
    @adelmotlhabinyana7553 Před 6 lety

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Very excellent video to learn the basics.

  • @hanmartens
    @hanmartens Před rokem

    very clear explanation and instructive

  • @RajaramSrinivasan59
    @RajaramSrinivasan59 Před 3 lety

    Hello! This is VU2RJV here with a huge thanks and genuine appreciation of this seminal video! Your clarity and ability to explain in a lucid way is just fantastic.
    May i request you to also tell us the various possible cases that can occur in designing the filter eg, you've explained two cases where RF-LO or LO-RF can occur depending on which frequency is greater. You've mentioned that the side band Inversion will occur. Can you explain the math? Also, could you please cover other cases as we go from a lower to higher RF and go across bands ? Thanks

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  Před 3 lety +1

      The mixer gives you the sum and difference frequencies between the input and the LO, as well as the harmonics components:
      So, the output will have:
      F(IN)+F(LO)
      F(IN)-F(LO) or F(LO)-F(IN), depending on which is greater
      and the harmonic combinations:
      nF(IN)+/-m(F(LO) or nF(LO)+/-mF(IN)

  • @seeker4430
    @seeker4430 Před 4 lety

    Amazing video... Great work... Hope you could do more videos

  • @DAVET38
    @DAVET38 Před 11 lety

    Yet another very good video. I found it both interesting and greatly informative. Unfortunately we did not get as far as modulation operation, in a practical sense, in the electronic course I did. Thanks for this more practical video.

  • @th1alb
    @th1alb Před 6 lety

    one of the best explanations ever!

  • @westikle
    @westikle Před 4 lety

    A couple questions here...
    1. When I tune to a station, let's say 92.3, does that mean the radio station transmits at a different frequency?
    2. Are some of the intermods higher in power than the fundamentals? I was surprised to see that.
    Your content is the best on youtube btw!!! Hands down.

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  Před 4 lety

      Radio stations are strictly regulated, it is highly unlikely that their signal would include harmonics. Intermod products at the output of the mixer can be higher that the fundamental.

  • @darknrgy
    @darknrgy Před 6 lety +1

    Great video, exactly what I was looking for.

  • @zbigniewcuper4669
    @zbigniewcuper4669 Před 2 lety

    Thank you sir for explanation and patient :) now it is a bit clear for me.
    Best regards

  • @qwerty_____146
    @qwerty_____146 Před 3 lety +1

    I LOVE YOU. Thank you MAN. Great. I LOVE YOU.

  • @youtubeaccount931
    @youtubeaccount931 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video for me learning this stuff. I looked up that ceramic filter, so I take it with their wider bandwidth relative to a crystal you wouldn't use them as an IF filter for narrow band applications like SSB? Or are there other stages downstream where using the ceramic filter would be appropriate. Thanks for the knowledge

  • @drstrangelove09
    @drstrangelove09 Před 2 lety

    IMO, this video is more appropriate to the discussion of using the NE602 to modulate an audio signal to produce an AM signal that could be used to transmit. (Maybe I'm wrong...? And it is an excellent video!!) It would be cool, though, to see instead how the 602 would transform an input AM carrier plus audio for receive. How does the mixing function take an AM modulated signal, in the time domain and pull out the audio component? (Or does it?) (I ask all of this as an EE who studied this in college in the 70s and either have forgotten or never completely knew. The college presentation is to show the time domain explanation but what I would like to know is how does the mixer translate the received signal in the time domain. As I think about it it is not obvious to me how it would do it...?

  • @jnevercast
    @jnevercast Před 4 lety

    Exactly the video I was looking for, great content. Thanks!

  • @arashcrouse2
    @arashcrouse2 Před 4 lety +1

    Man you rock. Wonderful tutorial video.

  • @Parirash123
    @Parirash123 Před 4 lety

    Good practical demonstration. Thank you.

  • @rty1955
    @rty1955 Před 6 lety

    Thank you for this easy to understand topic.

  • @joaopedrolourencoaffonso2168

    You are amazing! Thanks for this video!

  • @gatesadrian1
    @gatesadrian1 Před 5 lety +1

    Very nicely done, thank you...it's been a great help

  • @DavePKW
    @DavePKW Před 6 lety

    Outstanding presentation. Thank you.

  • @manfredgotzinger1258
    @manfredgotzinger1258 Před rokem

    Thank you very much, now I think, I understand it!!!

  • @Sunny-ml2zs
    @Sunny-ml2zs Před 6 lety

    Great explanation and very practical.

  • @tonymon875
    @tonymon875 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Excellent thank you

  • @das250250
    @das250250 Před 8 lety

    Beautifully demonstrated

  • @paulsantiagovaldez5312

    Very informative, Thank you very much

  • @ildabrando
    @ildabrando Před 7 měsíci

    FANTASTIC video, I'we seen it a lot of times. A question: Is the IF filter designed for a specific impedance?

    • @w2aew
      @w2aew  Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, typically tuned to the output and input impedance of the circuits preceeding and following stages.

  • @alibehrouz9833
    @alibehrouz9833 Před 8 lety +3

    That was very kind of you