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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 26. 01. 2023
- Now let's take a look at the New Holland twin rotor, đ
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Mike , the New Holland combine doesn't have all the fancy stuff in the cab but it will give you 100% better sample then the John Deere combine .
Samples donât matter itâs the end result. And the Deereâs has less loss percentage
@@dwaynefehr4317 not in canola!!!
â@Dwayne Fehr hahaaa not on your life lol.
@@dwaynefehr4317 Loss percentage isn't a combine issue, the only things where brands differ are efficiency, maintenance and ease of use. If losses are to high, change settings and that includes ground speed. If nothing helps, you should check your seperating and cleaning systems. There will always be exceptions, but in the end, that's basically it.
@@dwaynefehr4317 wrong
We love ours wouldn't trade for anything else plus the twin rotar king funny how John deere talked all that shit just to comely them 30 or 40 yrs later
The right side door is for, cleaning itâs window, wiring and cleaning your cab/floor đđ
You secret candy holder is actually a phone holder đ
Love our 8.90
Hey Mike, I see where Big Bud is going to start making tractors again. 650 to 750 HP Cat C-18 engine, Cat 18 speed powershift transmission, and 70,000 lbs of weight, and designed so that anyone can work on it. Sounds like what you have been asking for.
If the Welkers buy one they will definitely loose their Case IH sponsorship đ
@@Jorrie86 They have a sweet deal with Case IH and they probably want to keep it that way.
Shall I let you in on a secret? Everybody uses liters - even the Aussis and the Brits - except for North America which is robustly stuck in the 50's
that fridge is super cool, we just got our 2 10.90 in before harvest and daym they ran great
New Holland had the first twin rotor combine in 1974. It was a game changer.
Their elevators always plugged though
Dad bought a new TR-85 in 79?.... I was only 5, heck of a machine but couldn't keep belts, chains, sprockets on it, switched brands in 88
@@keithauer4548 you will have that with every combine
@@jonesfarm6501 never had that problem with the gleaner we replaced it with in 1976
Yes New Holland had the first twin rotor but International Harvester developed it first and decided to go with a single rotor and therefore an engineer from International Harvester went to New Holland with it and that's how they jumped ahead with it with International Harvester bigger single rotor was introduced 2 years later and then a lawsuit because originally is from International Harvester but they worked it out an agreement between the two companies
Red button shuts everything off!! Eye opening when your leg taps it while un loading on the go
Another video of the Humorous back and forth banter between Lee & Mike brings a smile to my face đ€Łđ
Is John Deere coming out with a New Class 10 Combine
@@rickiemckillip8124 Depending on the model the JD X9 is either a class 10 or 11
Cup holder in the arm rest so spilled coffee can get on the buttons and stop u from combining sounds like a great idea đ reminds me off the old deere forage harvester
Canât say Iâve ever had an issue with spilling on the buttons. Had 10.9âs for 5 years now
I think Mike should be the designer of a combine cab. So that everything would be just right lolđ
The door is great if you need to access the electrical under the console. I work on FR forage harvesters they use the same cab.
Yeah I can see it being great for cleaning out the cab and doing maintenance
"Nobody measures anything by litres", thats a good one :D
All hail the banana system!
Only in America
Hey Mike the trap door at back of inside of hopper is mainly just used for when you break a shear pin bolt on concave, itâs about a 5 minute to change, Iâve only ever had them break while picking up barley swaths and take it a nasty clump/ pile, but yes those led lights and flashers are stupid bright! And have yet to plug a CR and Iâve been running the neighbors for years, most youâll plug is the feeder house, and man a lot of guys in my area have gotten the new crâs! And thatâs with dealer support of all 5 brands in my local area! And when itâs tough going the cr will walk passed everything else and they gotta shut down! And Iâve hauled grain off of them all and cr has the best sample!
Sounds like a dealer posing as a farmerđ
Newer models have an electric concave reset system above the rotors that is accessible from inside grain tank for repairs. To reset concave everything is done from your operators seat.
@@sasfarmerthis machine has that resetting feature. I can tell because there is that large spring that the cover goes over.
@@jeffg6429 so your predicting he's a dealer just because he's a farmer with experience that actually gives a shit.
New cr dosen't have concave shear bolts...an auto reset now.
That's what you should try, I think those combines are top of the line, way less complaints than any other brand
I do love the comment section on Mike's video's. No one can ever understand your sarcasm or jokes. Or just put it into perspective that your just one bloke with a camera. Thanks for the video.
A little known fact, New Holland were the first to Develop the rotary combine, a twin rotor, about three years later Case made the single rotor.
The same guy designed the NH and the IH combines. He designed the twin rotor when he worked for IH. But IH said it was cost prohibitive and told him to simply it.
He then quit and was hired by NH. IH actually came out 1 year earlier than NH.
New HOLLAND ROCKS. đ€
Lee is such a good complement to you. Your guys comedy works so well together.
As others have said, I enjoy your and Lee's banter, it is really entertaining.
Just saw the announcement that they are going to build new Big Buds without many electronics.
This is not true. They are using all CAT parts like engine transmission and axles. The C18 had DEF equipped too.
Hey Mike. That Donaldson part by the engine looked like a Centrifugal by-pass oil filter. Really great for Diesel motor oil. Pulls out alot of soot from the oil.
That is for the crankcase ventilation system. It is an oil mist separator.
wrong. its for the crankcase
"Just in case the sun comes shining through your grain tank"...l just about spit coffee everywhere.
That right side door is so if your out walking around while on autopilot, if you happen to be on that side when something goes wrong you can just quickly open the door to get to your controls!!!!đđ
Your the epitome of the modern farmer. The most minor trinket gadget ergonomics are the deciding factor of purchase.
I doubt that's his deciding factor (vice reliability, serviceability, performance, dealer support, etc.). Given the hours an operator can put in the cab, and how comfort, convenience and ergonomic issues can affect operator performance (and thus the end result), they're relevant details to consider and point out.
"nobody measures in litres" just the rest of the world.......!
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Commentary was hilarious!
That back visor is actually quite handy at night time when youâre empty. Itâs a class 10. The concaves are 1 piece cause if you put a wad through they drop down so you canât plug rotor. it has a auto reset to pull them back up Into place. If you donât pay for the auto reset that door in the hopper is to change shear pins weâve never needed to open ours. When we demoed a 10.9 last year our 10.9âs way outperformed should get one for a demo would be curious how you like them.
Demoed a x9 last year I meant đ
Great content
I donât know if itâs any good, but that black interior is sick!!
Love the NH interior. Seats are nice
Hey Mike, the New Holland door on the right side of the cab is for those operators who prefer righthand drive models with a bonus platform for standing & taking a pee! (Not all farmers are lucky enough to find toilets in their fields like you & Lee). đđ
Also works well for blowing out the cab to get all dust/chaff blown out cleanly đ
Hahaha best comment đ
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Bonus points for white wheels.
A lot of the manufacturers put sunscreen with holes in their machines, they block some of the sun out but I like the solid screen that some use. I think MacDon Industries uses a solid one. They are much better.
It's good to see Lee again.
And Frank, you have any news, what's become of you?
Best combine out
Dammit, Lee. Come back to Mike's farm! Miss the banter
Next year Claas is sure to have the sunscreen design straightened out!
Yes Lee â€ïžđđŻâ
Spill ur coffee? Iâd hate to spill my beer in that beer holder mike
I use a coffee can with some dirt in it for my combine ash tray
Love that New Holland
Funny that few years ago,John Deere,said they would not have a rotory combine,but how they have,and also a twin ,on the x9,i think they copy NEW HOLLAND!!! NEW HOLLAND IS THE BETTER COMBINE!!!!
Good lord Mike you remind me of the bad naughty little boy that doesn't mind his parents playing with everything touching everything lol
Nice movie about this subject!
Latest gen cab actually got smaller. On the CR9070âs I was able to put 3 of the 4 kids on the storage compartment behind the seat. đ
That is true but in the newer cabs us taller guys can now stretch our legs much easier.
Im not a new holland guy but yeah I think the older cabs are bigger!
Magnifique foire agricole et les moissonneuse batteuse sont bien équipés intéressante
Candy holder, holds a phone. Its a fridge and cooler. Fridge when plugged in.
I think you may find that International combines had twin rotors first, they were calling Axel Flows. I enjoy your videos, very informative.
Axial flow was a single rotor
@@tedglover706 Oops đ
New Holland puoneered the twin rotor as far as i can remember. And boy they are knenif the few very experienced combine builders of all time. Perhaps im biaised because i cut my harvesting teeth on the Clayson New Holland back in the '80s.
As I grew up in Europe, I was bottle fed by new holland combine. Maybe 70-80% of combines in area were NH, some case.
JD were rare and exotic.
I didn't see Class combine even if they are popular in Europe since long time ago compared to USA
For a twin rotor combine, I would go directly with NH 4 sure.
JD x9 is 4 sure harder to maintain and to fix, it's sure
That pro 700 is nice at least in a case 8250. The red button is a emergency stop thing if you want to see where everything is sitting in the combine
It is a fridge but you can take it out to pack it a home
Kill Stall is the correct way to do that. E-Stop is for emergencies.
Mike, I recommend demoing a 9.90 or 10.90 if you have a NH dealer in your area, I'd really like to hear what you think of the original twin rotor and how it compares to deere and ideal
@Allthingsgood ComefromHim I work for one in Kansas, that dealer needs to get them one out to demo. I personally think a CR is hard to beat and we even run old case machines, I work on them and they are just simple machines not over complicated
You really need to demo a NH combine.
I read my manual and honestly itâs a good thing that I didđ
You have to walk down the stairs backwards Mike then is little bit easier.đ
Hey young fellow New Holland was the first twin rotary combine. IH the first single rotary. The other companies had to wait until patents were done.
Would your neighbors the Hunter brothers Get one for you to demonstrate as they run NewHollen.
We run claas combines but we have tried those NH 9.9 they rotate pretty good biggest pit fall against the claas is the chew fuel like crazy, resale and quality was always a longer term concern.
I would disagree with you on fuel. We now have a 9.80 as well as a Lexion 570. The new holland uses a lot less fuel.
@@bobwest2807 we have 2019 760 lexion we did a test on fuel per acre between the 9.9 it was 30% more fuel per acre consumed that was straight cutting hard red spring wheat.
@@chadkubashek4622 I am in the Uk and we have significantly more straw in our winter wheat that is also tough going through the combine. The straw has a lot further to pass through the claas and that is probably why our fuel consumption is different to yours. We can use about 15% less fuel per acre with the 9.80.
@@bobwest2807 your right fuel consumption is incredibly variable depending on conditions and harvest application. In the end we liked our lexion better maybe test out a late model 700 series or a new style 8000 series against your 9.9.
@@chadkubashek4622 Unfortunately not an option. I can't use the new mouse shaped joystick. Give me pins and needles in my hands after only 10 minutes of use.
Excellent video, thanks for sharing this. I enjoy being a longtime subscriber to your great channel. May I please ask you why you opt to use a shank rather than no till disc seed drill for your particular farm? Given your expertise, I am certain that you have a very good reason(s), I am simply very curious to learn what that rationale might be, if you're willing to share the good reasons for why you opted for the seeding system that you use.
Can't give you Mikes reasons, but in my experience, some are:
1. Less bearings, so less wear (including durability in stony fields)
2. Cheaper
3. Sidewall compaction (from disc system) could be a factor, when the soil is hard and/or wet
I prefer the simplicity of tines/shanks over the benefits of low disturbance discs (But it can be a major factor in weed management)
@@GreenEyeNB - Thank you, I'm grateful to hear your good and knowledgeable response.
@@GreenEyeNB - I seed 7200 acres each year and have had both types for nine years now ... when I pencil it out the added cost of wearable parts for the disc drill is completely offset by less draft thus less fuel use per acre, when diesel is above $1.37 per liter. Below that, the shank drill over those nine years is net-cheaper. Above 1.37 per liter then the disc drill, in my experience and on our own land, begins to be net-cheaper.
@@GreenEyeNB - ... sidewall compaction and compaction in general is not an issue on our very light very sandy soils.
@@sean3223a Yeah I guess if the fuel prices stay high, that could be a gamechanger. I still hope, they will normalize in the long run ha ha.
We have everything from sand to heavy clay and it's easier to firm up chunks of soil than to "pinch down" open slits (Both is far from perfect).
Yea that fridge is designed to be plugged in at all times take it home plug it in the bring it to work and plug it in
I believe that you can still get a old Ford model T and hang the honey bee out the front of that, or go back to the old massey 760, maybe the seat would be better. LOL Combines have come along way in the last 20 years.
it's a little dig at mike over the not so sure seat.
Cx 860 for the win!! đđ
The plastic fuel tanks really aren't that bad i don't think, if your combine is on fire enough to melt a plastic fuel tank then it was a lost cause anyway. I work for a dealer that services over 100 CRs every year and ever since the CR came out we have only ever had one burn and that was from a bearing failure on the engine.
It's a crankcase breather filter not a auto-greaser. Would be an odd place for one lol.
Buy it! For me of course. I'll give you our cr9070 for trade. Imo twin rotor is the way to go. I'm assuming their patent expired a while ago as now a lot of manufacturers are coming out with twin rotors.
FYI, NH did the twin rotor first, then JD made a hash job of copying it.
Dump you JDâs and get a proper Combine!
Iâd guarantee you wouldnât go back.
Fun.
Good show Mike. How many of those you going to buy?
Bushel?? What the heck is a bushel nobody measures anything in bushels gimme liters đ
Serious question, can you buy a bushel water in Canada? đ€
Have you ever ran a New Holland?
Vf580s will deliver a larger footprint than a 620 tire when at the proper pressure
3:38 place for phone? đ€
Morning
Interesting how number of cup holders, comforts of sitting in a living room are âtop of mindâ when looking at a $800,000 machine to harvest and provide your revenue!! No discussion of harvesting efficiency one machine vs another....Key, operator comfort.
đ Your statement is valid good sir and my response is simple.. It's because all those $800k-$1M+ combines are amazing in just about every way! These machines are all "state of the art" these days and are incredibly impressive regardless of the colour.
90% of the efficiency, cleaning, losses, and threshing you pointed out, come down to operator and conditions - which change daily.
Infact, you would be hard pressed to find two farms with the same opinion even if the conditions were the same. đ But you know what? We all work crazy stupid hours, so we CAN agree about comfort and cup holders.
Have an awesome day! đ
@@mikemitchell2554 Appreciate your perspective...thanks
In 1974 New Holland launched the first Twin Rotor Combine, the TR70.
Hey Mike i have a question: Whatever happened to the "secretive" 60ft Honeybee header you had on trial?
They're selling them.He said it was too wide for their terrain.
Deere had their 60 footer up here a couple years ago to help with the local rink quarter. If they can make a 60 work in our terrain, MacDon and Honeybee can too.
@@davidlogel2350 He showed us how much more flex the 50 ft Deere had than the Honeybee. I assume Honeybee is working on it.
do you play Farming Simulator 22 I would love to have a map of your farm on the game it would be really awesome to play and work through. The welkers and the millennial farmer did it it was completely awesome in Farming Simulator 19
Made in Belgium? Zedelgem?
That hopper is, according to unit converter, 398.7 imperial bushels or 411.5 US bushels. Itâs also 60.8 hogshead.
And with a big top extension on them they're 450 plus bushel. Our 7.90 is 400 with extension.
Mike reacts just like a child who has never seen a toy when given a toy.
You should demo and New Holland combine
Check out the T9
Intelliview V monitors are the best ones out there so far imo.
I will take a CNH combine any day over johndeere or fendt
Down the ladder backwards mick
one day he will get a claas
They are 580 to easily fit on 30" spacing. Dumb as hell for the cdn market but almost always come from factory like that now
A shade blind behind the seat so farmer doesn't have to see skinny barley in bin
nobody measues bushels, only Canadians and usa ,still havent caught up .
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10:20 how many bushels of gas go in your truck? lol 1000L = ~750kg of wheat so easy, so 11 ton hopper of wheat
Going to have to replace the X9.. maybe the new holland would not plug in lentals.. :)
Well my dad runs the 9.90 and he loves that machine in tough conditions he came off a John deere
You need to demo one Michael need to demo a new home and then remember there a combo not a house Iâm sure youâd be happier with them than that. John Deere thing went from John Deere to new Holland after dem
Is that "rethresher" auger like that on all rotor combines? Looks pretty miserable to me, it will only run the grain over the sivs one more pass. It should put the grain back at the very front of the rotors in my opinion, or it wonÂŽt do much good.
The base of that auger threshes the crop that it runs back over the sieves. There are different covers you can put on it for different levels of aggressiveness
@@lindakleinser1196 So youÂŽre saying the sieves have something more to them that will help rethreshing? Because my conventional rattlebox combine would need the grain to go back to the really grinding parts, not just over the sivs again.
Thrash it the first time through...cr dosen't throw grain over.
There is a threshing drum at the base of the auger, so the repeats are actually threshed. They aren't just thrown back on the seives
@@kmac7504 Thanks, mate - I didnÂŽt know that, and it doesnÂŽt show on the video. I would like to know if this is common to all rotor combines though, as a conventional style combine would (for most of them) put the grain back to the very first step of the process, and then beat it up as much as possible for those stubborn seeds to lose their will to live...
Actually the led becons are way way better than the x9
Whole Europe measure in liters
Pretty much everyone outside north america does
11.90 cr for sale this year..
Note: Mitas is pronounced âmee tuhzâ
Almost in the whole world grain tank is measured by liters, unless in US or sometimes in Canada is measured in archaic, non accurate bushels
Right. Last time I heard bushels was in 1974.