Why didn't Puerto Rico become a US State? (Short Animated Documentary)

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  • Many of America's 19th century territorial acquisitions became formal states in the 20th century but one notable exception is Puerto Rico. So why didn't it become a state? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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Komentáře • 5K

  • @Romalac
    @Romalac Před rokem +4934

    "As such, in the American political tradition, it was time for can-kicking!"
    As a US citizen, I find this hilariously sad.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson Před rokem +210

      If Soccer was played with a can instead of a ball, the US would be overwhelming favorites to win the world cup. No one kicks cans down the road like we do.

    • @rogerpennel1798
      @rogerpennel1798 Před rokem +88

      Give it statehood or give it independence. We have only had 120 years to make up our minds.

    • @louis1443
      @louis1443 Před rokem +40

      Yes as a Puerto Rican can we just become a state already what’s the hold up.

    • @romulusnr
      @romulusnr Před rokem +11

      The ERA, the closure of Guantanamo, the various state DST bills all feel seen

    • @martyc909
      @martyc909 Před rokem +47

      I feel like learning US history in school, all of our problems boil down to kicking the can and hoping someone else deals with it. 😂😂

  • @camhabibi2217
    @camhabibi2217 Před rokem +3363

    Fun fact: Puerto Rico's nonvoting representative in the House of Representatives is the only Member of Congress that serves a 4 year term. House members serve 2 years, Senators serve 6 years, but the resident commissioner of PR is unique.

    • @egregius9314
      @egregius9314 Před rokem +121

      That is a fun fact.

    • @robertrichard6107
      @robertrichard6107 Před rokem +43

      What about the one from the Virgin Islands?

    • @ericsilver9401
      @ericsilver9401 Před rokem +161

      @@robertrichard6107 chad islands*

    • @SeabooUsMultimedia
      @SeabooUsMultimedia Před rokem +47

      @@robertrichard6107 2 years term for their nonvoting representative in the House of Representatives

    • @camhabibi2217
      @camhabibi2217 Před rokem +1

      @@robertrichard6107 The nonvoting representatives for DC, the Virgin Islands, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and American Samoa all serve 2 year terms. Another fun fact: the rep from American Samoa is the only Member of Congress that can be a non-US citizen. People born in American Samoa are US nationals, not citizens.

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark Před rokem +152

    The few Puerto Ricans I have talked to were impartial/fine with the status-quo, but from what I understand, the ones who _do_ want statehood or independence feel strongly about it.

    • @yondie491
      @yondie491 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Yup. And they *TEND* to blame non-PR's about it, even though it's up to the citizens of PR to vote and apply (note: You have to have a legal vote, 2012's vote was... absurd).

    • @matthewheald8964
      @matthewheald8964 Před měsícem +1

      @@yondie491facts. I looked up the most recent referendum held on PR statehood and it was just less than 53% in favor of statehood (and the first pro statehood referendum I could find with more than a 50% registered turnout). And yet on a Spanish video about this very topic, the comments section was filled with Boricuas complaining about American colonialism 🤦🏻‍♂️ I love the place and the people, but some people really are unbelievable.

    • @yondie491
      @yondie491 Před měsícem +1

      @@matthewheald8964 yeah, so many people are weirdly allergic to facts

    • @lessonslearned2569
      @lessonslearned2569 Před měsícem +3

      @@yondie491 No it is not.

    • @lessonslearned2569
      @lessonslearned2569 Před měsícem

      @@matthewheald8964 The part that it was a scam by the pro-statehood party?

  • @christopherbowen1836
    @christopherbowen1836 Před 6 měsíci +55

    0:35 I love the newspapers and treaties. It always is a challenge to pause the video quickly enough so I can read the whole thing.

    • @thomasjgallagher924
      @thomasjgallagher924 Před měsícem +2

      those are clever "Easter Eggs"

    • @thomasjgallagher924
      @thomasjgallagher924 Před měsícem +1

      It's interesting to see the different trajectories of the two tropical islands of the US (OK there's Guam and America Samoa, but for the sake of argument): Hawai'i is growing steadily and Puerto Rico is losing quite a substantial portion of its population to the mainland. There may be more Hawaiians today less keen on statehood than there are in PR, but I'd guess that DC may beat PR to the statehood podium.

  • @poatocat9534
    @poatocat9534 Před rokem +1276

    Another big reason why people preferred association over statehood is that, while it is illegal for states to leave the union, it is perfectly legal for territories to do so (see Micronesia) so keeping Puerto Rico a territory allows the issue of potential independence to be kicked down the road while not angering the pro-independence or pro-statehood sides too much

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 Před rokem +14

      =WHAT INDEPENDENCE WHEN MILITARY BASES OF THE US WILL NOT GO ANYWHERE???
      =BECAUSE OF ANY INDEPENDENCE WILL BE ONLY ON PAPER,WITH NO *REAL* ONE,PR MUST'VE GET THE OPPORTUNITY AND BECOME A STATE,SO PEOPLE LIVING IN PR WILL GET REAL RIGHTS TOWARDS MILITARY......AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

    • @eds1942
      @eds1942 Před rokem +82

      They are an unincorporated territory. Whether they overwhelmingly vote for independence or statehood doesn’t matter. Only the US Congress can grant that.

    • @Eterna7Forms
      @Eterna7Forms Před rokem +30

      I think Congress can allow a state to leave the union, desu. I'm fairly sure the Supreme Court has said that a state just can't do it unilaterally. But if Congress passed an amendment allowing Texas an independence vote that would be legal.

    • @justinmcgough3958
      @justinmcgough3958 Před rokem +113

      @@robotnikkkk001 The capitilized lettering hear doesn't help and is just annoying to read with

    • @stevevernon1978
      @stevevernon1978 Před rokem +48

      @@robotnikkkk001 the Phillipines had US bases... from before they were ever independent. but they don't now!

  • @texxon3355
    @texxon3355 Před rokem +6002

    As a Puerto Rican living on the Island as I write this, I'm surprised it finally got it's own episode. The topic of status in PR is still very complicated. Yes, the independence support has decreased, but that factor was also cause by decades and decades of propaganda that linked it with it getting conquered by Cuba or the USSR (Cold War Red Scare at it's finest). And in the last plebiscites on what status the citizens would favor, statehood seemed to receive overwhelming support, but the ammount of people that participated was very little. This topic is far more complicated than a 3+ minute video, but still good video. I hope more PR related videos come out in the future.

    • @juliomanuel1885
      @juliomanuel1885 Před rokem +203

      Many Puerto Ricans tie independence to communism and it doesn't make scene like how come Mexico, Chile and other Latino nations aren't communist and they are independent states. If Puerto Rico were to become independent we can do it without becoming a communist dictatorship.

    • @cowboybeboop9420
      @cowboybeboop9420 Před rokem +7

      It honestly baffles me how you people would want to become a state honestly. If you guys were some hodge podge of people cubbled together like the Americans or the Canadians I could get that but from what I understand Puerto Rico`s people are it`s own ethnic thing with it`s own culture, language etc. If it was me I would not want to be simply drowned out in my country by a bunch of foreigners that would erase my national identity.

    • @SevenHunnid
      @SevenHunnid Před rokem +3

      I do food reviews while I’m high off that good tree on my yöutube chånnel 😏

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 Před rokem +185

      Puerto Rico is barely handling its own affairs as a territory how long do you think it would last as an independent nation? Honestly it's a kind of damned if you do damned if you don't situation if it ever got statehood it would probably be one of the poorest states in the Union

    • @FederationMapping
      @FederationMapping Před rokem +69

      @@juliomanuel1885 Cuba is not a communist dictatorship, it's actually really democratic

  • @thetradersam6157
    @thetradersam6157 Před rokem +16

    As a Puerto Rican and a USAF veteran. My take in a nutshell, PR doesn't have the resources to sustain or grow its economy at a meaningful rate, more economic diversity is needed, the island dependents heavily in the tourism and US funds, and the few expats that spend money at the local shops when we visit...

  • @desertguy1362
    @desertguy1362 Před rokem +18

    Mad props to the creator who didn't stretch this out in ten minutes or have sponsors in the middle. Subbed

  • @michaelnace5490
    @michaelnace5490 Před rokem +845

    In 8th grade, I asked my social studies teacher why Puerto Rico wasn’t a state, and he said just because that would make it 51 states, and “the 50 states” just sounded better. I wholeheartedly believed him and have never questioned it until today lmao

    • @reynaldoflores4522
      @reynaldoflores4522 Před rokem +72

      Texas can split up into 5 states. That would mean 4 new states. So with PR, it would be 55 states.

    • @LVluxlife
      @LVluxlife Před rokem +10

      Yes I heard that they too growing up

    • @dallas9397
      @dallas9397 Před rokem +40

      @@reynaldoflores4522 that does not sound as good as 50 stars. Also 50 stars makes a good shape on the flag.

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 Před rokem +12

      It would be perfect if along with puerto rico dc would be a state too

    • @m.matos471
      @m.matos471 Před rokem

      🗿

  • @LordKalte
    @LordKalte Před rokem +858

    I watch for two reasons:
    -To see if James Bissonnette is still a patreon
    -To learn the information given out in this video

    • @rkr9861
      @rkr9861 Před rokem +63

      I'd be shocked if they ever withdraw. I still remember a while back when History Matters posted a video but forgot to add the patreon section. Despite this, the video ended with, "With a special thanks to: James Bissonette--" as if HM assumed they'd just always be there, and wouldn't need to check before recording the next section.

    • @5en_official
      @5en_official Před rokem +2

      I watch for both :)

    • @nidicey
      @nidicey Před rokem +2

      @@5en_official he also does!!! also wow, early comment. hello!!! can you see me

    • @delorbb2298
      @delorbb2298 Před rokem +1

      I never see his name listed so I wondered on the spelling. Is it like the Bissonnet here in Houston or your way of spelling it? 😂. Thanks for clearing that up.

    • @thenotoriouskid1736
      @thenotoriouskid1736 Před rokem +9

      I like boogely woogely

  • @diplomat1o11
    @diplomat1o11 Před rokem +10

    Thank you for this episode, and good job getting the basic gist out there.

  • @odius1794
    @odius1794 Před rokem +5

    Dude, you are fantastic. So spot on

  • @guacamoledreams
    @guacamoledreams Před rokem +3804

    I’m a Puerto Rican born and raised on the island. From what I’ve experienced, it is the older generations that prefer statehood, while the idea of independence is more popular among the younger folk. Obviously, this is a generalization. Many Puerto Ricans, including myself, serve in the military, and are employed by American organizations on the island, so to sever ties with the United States would definitely affect a large percentage of the population. Anyways, thanks for the video man! It’s not often that Puerto Rico receives much attention from channels like yours.

    • @hkchan1339
      @hkchan1339 Před rokem +219

      Giving up USA citizenship for independence and your own passport is very unwise. You already enjoy not needing to pay federal income taxes
      Edit: I am not from USA. So I didn’t know you do pay other forms of federal taxes and might be receiving a short end of the stick. What I am trying to convey is, going out on your own as an independent country in the Caribbean isn’t easy. You will still be wanting to have close ties with USA anyway for future economic , diplomatic and trading purposes anyway. Might be better to get more Autonomy or the status quo since you need close ties with USA for the future anyway

    • @jasonglebe3235
      @jasonglebe3235 Před rokem +195

      I think independence is one of those "be careful what you wish for" things for Puerto Rico. Statehood has too many downsides and not enough upsides whereas I don' t think Puerto Rico has the capability to govern itself and would most likely be annexed by another nation. As silly as it sounds the "Red Scare" of nearby Cuba may not turn out to be such a fever dream

    • @Eowunyth
      @Eowunyth Před rokem +139

      Yet every time PR is asked to vote on Statehood over the last decade it’s an affirmative yes.
      So no, it’s not a magical ‘youth thing’.

    • @enchantedplays7860
      @enchantedplays7860 Před rokem +1

      @@jasonglebe3235 There is like a 0% chance of annexation, much higher chance of mismanagement and gang violence.

    • @guacamoledreams
      @guacamoledreams Před rokem +71

      @@hkchan1339 Active duty service members from Puerto Rico pay federal taxes.

  • @TheDarthbinky
    @TheDarthbinky Před rokem +575

    I served in the US Army with a whole bunch of Puerto Ricans and one them told me once that if you want to start a fight, find three or more Puerto Ricans and say "PR should be a state".
    Because there are three opinions (status quo, statehood, and independence) and they feel strongly about whichever one they hold.

    • @rhoetusochten4211
      @rhoetusochten4211 Před rokem +133

      Forget 3, my Puerto Rican father in law can get in an argument with himself over the issue.

    • @DivinesLegacy
      @DivinesLegacy Před rokem +18

      No one thinks Puerto Rico should be a state, It shouldn’t. And we won’t allow it either way. No American is begging Puerto Rico to join, The country has nothing to show for itself and should be independent from the US as there are zero cultural ties.

    • @casketman14
      @casketman14 Před rokem +1

      @@DivinesLegacy you won moronic comment of the day

    • @Boricua_USAF
      @Boricua_USAF Před rokem +114

      @@DivinesLegacy I can see you are ignorant of the subject. Many Puerto Ricans on the island and on the mainland believe in PR statehood. The US has never begged a, territory t become a state, and yet they have opened the doors to them when they deemed fit. If what you said were true why did 8 territories, now states use the Tennessee Plan to become a state, the last one being Alaska.
      You lack the knowledge of US history and it shows

    • @thejayroh0011
      @thejayroh0011 Před rokem +6

      @@DivinesLegacy There is the case to allow Puerto Rico to remain a territory so no one else shows up with guns and says "we're Puerto Rico now"

  • @NicolaW72
    @NicolaW72 Před rokem

    Good Question!👍 Thank you very much for the Historical Background to answer it!

  • @Acc0rd79
    @Acc0rd79 Před rokem +5

    Most of them moved to Kissimmee, FL or NY/NJ. :) They said something like 400k people moved to the greater Orlando area after Hurricane Maria a few years back. The ones who want to be a state just move here freely so I guess it works for the island to stay as it is.

  • @dfmrcv862
    @dfmrcv862 Před rokem +589

    As a Puerto Rican, another factor I keep seeing is that people here are just very comfortable with the "unincorporated territory" title. The pro-independence crowd can have their "we're our own country" line, while we're all still US citizens with the benefits of travelling to and from the US without any issue.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall Před rokem +72

      That's what I've heard whenever I've talked with anyone about the issue. The status quo is known. Becoming independent, while intriguing, is unknown. And they already get most of the benefits. Puerto Ricans are citizens, and can go where they like.
      Probably the ones who want to be a state just move to a state.

    • @greenkoopa
      @greenkoopa Před rokem +34

      Puerto Ricans are American to me

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 Před rokem

      .......SADLY,GETTING OUT OF THE US IS A MYTH,IT'LL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN...GOT IT??
      .....SO EVERYONE IN PR MUST'VE STOP DREAMING AND GET STATEHOOD ASAP....BECAUSE OF *_THAT_*

    • @dfmrcv862
      @dfmrcv862 Před rokem +77

      @@greenkoopa We *are* Americans. The state we live in just isn't considered an American state.

    • @dfmrcv862
      @dfmrcv862 Před rokem +4

      @@robotnikkkk001 ...wot?

  • @Kahless_the_Unforgettable
    @Kahless_the_Unforgettable Před rokem +730

    Not paying federal taxes while enjoying almost every right that a state has seems like a great reason to avoid statehood.

    • @PheOfTheFae
      @PheOfTheFae Před rokem +40

      I actually didn't know that part, considering DC folks pay taxes!

    • @Kahless_the_Unforgettable
      @Kahless_the_Unforgettable Před rokem +100

      @@PheOfTheFae , DC actually does have representation. By the POTUS. In 1961, they were given an electoral vote. Which means they can vote for President (a representative of the people, according to the Constitution).
      Puerto Rico can't vote for President.

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 Před rokem

      Funny enough in some Middle East countries the citizens don’t have pay any sort of income taxes at all.

    • @john2g1
      @john2g1 Před rokem +21

      @@Kahless_the_Unforgettable Yes DC can vote for the President. However, the President doesn't make the laws that govern DC or more importantly Puerto Rico so that doesn't really count for much.
      The Senate gives a massive amount of power to everyone who has a Senator. At the end of the day having the same filibuster, Yay, or Nay vote as everyone else regardless of population or tax revenue produced.

    • @john2g1
      @john2g1 Před rokem +95

      It's actually not that simple. The people (most of them) don't pay federal income tax but they pay every other type of tax.
      The Puerto Rican National Guard still gets called up to deploy into war zones and most importantly any federal law that's passed by Congress applies to Puerto Rico the same way would apply to a state.
      That is the most important part Puerto Rico has a bigger population than Hawaii, Alaska, Wyoming, and I think a few other states. That said it has zero control over what the other 50 states decide should happen to it at the Federal level.
      Once upon a time companies did not have to pay federal tax either and that caused a lot of well-paying companies to be based in or operate out of Puerto Rico. When Congress (again no representation) decided to end that it was a mass exodus of companies which also led to a mass exodus of employees aka local tax payers.

  • @steelcrown7130
    @steelcrown7130 Před rokem +3

    I like the reproachful portrait of Queen Liliuokalani at 0:51 and later.

  • @CollectiveWesterner
    @CollectiveWesterner Před rokem +61

    I have always thought that Puerto Rico (along with Guam) should be official states. I've visited PR three times, and have friends there who have served in the US Navy. Hopefully statehood will be granted in the near future.

    • @brucewelty7684
      @brucewelty7684 Před rokem +4

      Maybe we should rethink statehood to allow us to kick some of the trouble states out.

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 Před rokem

      @Craig Dendy Thank you! But we just need to kick out LA, San Francisco, and New York City! I just watched a video about how San Bernadino co wants to secede from the state of California and many Californians are very unhappy with the direction (down the toilet) that its going and they blame the most populous areas for its troubles. California sounds like a Red State outside the metro areas

    • @AL-lh2ht
      @AL-lh2ht Před rokem

      @Craig Dendy Yes removing the states with the highest economy sounds like a great idea.

    • @jlm3744
      @jlm3744 Před rokem

      We do not want statehood all those votes are BS political ploys by the corrupt statehood party. Don't believe their lies.

    • @carmenortiz5294
      @carmenortiz5294 Před rokem +2

      Why? Puerto Rico is a much older nation that the US. Heck, we were in Florida almost 100 years before the Mayflower.

  • @MichSherl
    @MichSherl Před rokem +127

    "the Treaty of Paris to make it easy to differentiate from other treaties" ROFL I love this so much!

    • @danielbishop1863
      @danielbishop1863 Před rokem +13

      Wikipedia has quite a lengthy disambiguation page for "Treaty of Paris", including 34 different treaties named the "Treaty of Paris", four "Paris Convention"s, the Paris Peace Accords for the Vietnam War, the 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change. (Plus a painting, a rock band, and a racehorse named "Treaty of Paris".)
      I think that Paris should take a break and let some other city handle international diplomacy for a while.

    • @carneasadaaccount2052
      @carneasadaaccount2052 Před rokem

      Who the fuck still says rofl

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Před rokem +1

      @@danielbishop1863
      Yeah but the cuisine would be worse anywhere else (except possibly Milan).

  • @signupstuff
    @signupstuff Před rokem +54

    Alaska voted 80% and Hawaii voted 90%. In the last plebiscite (2020) Puerto Rico voted ..53%. That's the equivalent of saying "I guess" to a marriage proposal. You can't expect anyone to seriously pursue statehood on behalf of PR when there doesn't appear to be any great enthusiasm from Puerto Ricans themselves.

    • @purplespeckledappleeater8738
      @purplespeckledappleeater8738 Před rokem +6

      Finally someone in this comments section is actually speaking some truth. The situation is pretty complicated with Puerto Rico right now, which is not what this CZcamsr is trying to sell to his audience.

    • @yondie491
      @yondie491 Před 4 měsíci +3

      And it's the first of a half-dozen votes that had *that much* of a pro-state or pro-independence result.
      Puerto Rico is the reason Puerto Rico isn't a state yet.

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 Před měsícem +1

      @@purplespeckledappleeater8738 To be clear, this youtuber didn't go into the current political drama at all and only explained the background for why it is the way it is now, not why people want to change that. Those are two distinct video topics.

    • @00_rei90
      @00_rei90 Před měsícem

      This. Statehood or not Puerto Rican is still American and almost everyone sees themselves that way there's really no serious issue of Puerto Rico seceding. I even go out on a limb to say that we Puerto Rican sees ourselves as American more than other Hispanic people who sometimes only see America as a place to make money and not their true "homeland"

  • @IronSmasher1024
    @IronSmasher1024 Před 10 měsíci

    of all the the history classes I've been to in school, this information is something i have an interest on.

  • @Zachman229
    @Zachman229 Před rokem

    I’m currently learning bout this stuff in history

  • @ryansearle6157
    @ryansearle6157 Před rokem +847

    Ideas for more videos:
    1. Why does France own French Guiana?
    2. Why does Liechtenstein exist?
    3. Why did Russia give Crimea to Ukraine?
    4. Why did Poland and Lithuania break up?
    5. Why is Latin a dead language?
    6. Why did Yugoslavia collapse?
    7. Why did Brittany take so long to join France?
    8. Why do so many countries end in -stan?
    9. Why did Europe colonize the Americas before Africa?
    10. Why isn’t Sri Lanka a part of India?
    11. Why did the Byzantine Empire survive for so long?
    12. Why didn’t Poland or Czechoslovakia regain all of their lost territory after WWII?
    13. How did the Mongol Empire get so big?
    14. Why isn’t Brunei a part of Malaysia?
    15. Why was Italy punished so lightly after WWII?

    • @untendohd1377
      @untendohd1377 Před rokem +100

      Isn‘t the -stan in country names like the -land in european nations e.g. Finnland, England, Switzerland?

    • @Zepellin
      @Zepellin Před rokem +81

      @@untendohd1377 yeah it just means land of such as Kazakhstan being land of Kazakhs

    • @JM-qb2kd
      @JM-qb2kd Před rokem +62

      @@untendohd1377 yes, and also the “ia” found in many names. So “-stan” and “ia” both essentially mean “land of”
      Columbia - land of Columbus
      Kazakhstan- land of Kazakh

    • @biscoito1r
      @biscoito1r Před rokem +53

      It was a lot harder to colonize Africa because the Africans had the same immunity to diseases as the Europeans plus they had extra diseases that the Europeans had no immunity to.

    • @joetrump2983
      @joetrump2983 Před rokem +16

      16. Why Bangladesh did not joined India after they broke away from pakistan

  • @wkbj7924
    @wkbj7924 Před rokem +753

    As always, I enjoyed this video. I was surprised, however, that one detail was missing. It was virtually impossible to consider making Puerto Rico a state before World War 2 because of the Philippines. The US could not possibly entertain the idea of making the Philippines a state due to its comparatively gargantuan population. Making Puerto Rico a state while keeping the Philippines as a territory would have caused even more tension between the states and the Philippines. However, once the Philippines became independent, statehood for Puerto Rico became more feasible.
    I know a few people from Puerto Rico. Based on that small sample size, they seem to lament the most about not being able to vote in the US presidential elections. Otherwise, they seem ambivalent regarding statehood. Again, my sample size is small. Many people from Puerto Rico may have a different perspective.

    • @TheRandCrews
      @TheRandCrews Před rokem +36

      But Philippines was on the path to independence anyhow, having its own commonwealth presidents and own military etc. It was slated for 1946, even with WWII underway they still got it that year. Idk how could that change things for Puerto Rico statehood

    • @robertrichard6107
      @robertrichard6107 Před rokem

      U.S. is guilty of many war crimes in Phillipines, maybe they could cover that next. U.S. did a lot of baby seal clubing in Spanish American War.

    • @rolandolayvar4328
      @rolandolayvar4328 Před rokem +91

      This is false. The Philippines was always slated for independence since the 1899 Schurman Commission and the subsequent 1900 Taft Commission. Philippine statehood was always a very very VERY small minority opinion in US Congress and within the Territory/Commonwealth. From 1899-1946 the US enacted laws and decisions exclusively for Philippine independence.
      The idea of Philippine statehood is a wildly popular misconception and teeters on historical revisionism.

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 Před rokem +4

      @@rolandolayvar4328 correct!

    • @youngjung161
      @youngjung161 Před rokem

      Very interesting

  • @Vespillo12
    @Vespillo12 Před rokem +43

    Used to live in Puerto Rico. There are 3 main political parties in PR the PNP (Partido Nuevo Progresista) prefer statehood, the PPD (Partido Popular Democrático) prefer to keep the status quo and the PIP (Partido Independentista Puertorriqueño) prefer independence. I've since moved back to the US mainland but back when I lived in PR it seemed that independence was almost impossible and overall not preferred by the populace. So, many of the PIP preferred to vote for PPD gubernatorial candidates in order to at least keep the status quo and not become a full-on state. TBH barring some unforeseen situation I don't ever imagine Puerto Ricans as a whole voting for independence. I feel that the benefits of being at least associated with the US as a territory outweigh the benefits of being their own nation.

    • @VMan29397
      @VMan29397 Před 17 dny

      Independence is inevitable. Their has been a mass exodus from the political establishment in the last 2 elections. 3rd parties in 2020 got a greater share of the vote then either of the 2 establishment parties

  • @markusskram4181
    @markusskram4181 Před rokem

    Cool video

  • @lherrero
    @lherrero Před rokem +125

    As a Puerto Rican, this is one of the most nuanced and accurate telling of the complex relationship between us and the USA. Great work as always!

    • @cfosnock
      @cfosnock Před rokem +3

      Not really if Puerto Rico had a "a strong independence movement" they would have been granted independence in 1947 like the Philippines...or Cuba in 1902. Puerto Ricans were offered US citizenship less than 1K refused and most of those were Spanish citizens

    • @cfosnock
      @cfosnock Před rokem +4

      @@370.y Considering I'm Puerto Rican, I think I know my skin color..and the skin color of Spaniards...SMH.Facts don't care about your feelings....even now the independence party is about 5% of the population. As far as the rest please write clearer as I don't know what your talking about, but its obvious you racially profiling people, as you're projecting that on to me.

    • @cfosnock
      @cfosnock Před rokem +1

      @@370.y Wow talk about projection. So you learned to despise your roots, and think others did the same. Then you accuse the author of the thread of despising Latinos, while at the same time despising him a Latino. SMH

    • @cfosnock
      @cfosnock Před rokem

      IMHO the reason why the status quo remains is not because of fear. I call it a lack of vision. The independence movement has none. They have no plans for the future except to reestablish control over the masses and get them to work in the fields picking coffee or sugar cane, or in the service industry catering to tourists. IE the only future for Puerto Rico espoused by the Indpenedentistas is for the revitalization of menial labor
      As far as the rest you have allowed racism to dominate your thinking. Their is little to no racism on the island, Puerto Ricans on the island know the stories, and may have experienced it, but they don't have a point of reference. Your cries of being taught to hate themselves falls on deaf ears, because unlike you they were educated in Puerto Rico where they are actually taught to take pride in their heritage. As such they would rather reform the system than abandon it.
      Then people like you come in yelling at them, assuming skin color, motivations, and a lack of intelligence, it just causes them to tune out your agenda. Just my 2 cents....

    • @FujikkoJP
      @FujikkoJP Před 9 měsíci +2

      *Yeah so rather let them become a third world country we can see how it turns out with Haiti.*

  • @NotaTechGuy177
    @NotaTechGuy177 Před rokem +66

    I love that the newspaper at 2:20 have actual articles from the same time period. Amazing attention to detail!

    • @danielbishop1863
      @danielbishop1863 Před rokem +12

      In general, I love HM's habit of putting jokes into newspapers that are only shown on screen for a second or two. Gotta pause it.

    • @chicagotypewriter2094
      @chicagotypewriter2094 Před rokem +5

      @@danielbishop1863 Same, did you catch how he literally named it "Rich Port News", Rich Port being Puerto Rico in English?

  • @HiveTyrant25
    @HiveTyrant25 Před 7 měsíci +4

    As a NATIVE Hawaiian, hearing “over 90% of Hawaiians” is upsetting. That’s because we actually barely made up any of the population at that point, and the immigrants who formed the majority of the population/work force would much rather be Americans than give the land back to their rightful owners.

    • @ianfortuna9385
      @ianfortuna9385 Před 7 měsíci

      Hate the game not the player

    • @zach2382
      @zach2382 Před 4 měsíci

      No that is not true at all actual polls done show that most Hawaiians yes the natives don’t care that they are apart of the US you

  • @ericnorman5237
    @ericnorman5237 Před rokem +16

    Lol…”it was time for can-kicking…”
    I love the dead-pan presentations History Matters gives.

  • @TarenNauxen
    @TarenNauxen Před rokem +4

    The "u" crossed out in Harbor at 0:55 is the kind of details I keep coming back for

  • @starsiegeplayer
    @starsiegeplayer Před rokem

    I was wondering about this.

    • @Historymatters0
      @Historymatters0 Před rokem

      Thank you ✌️for watching and leaving a comment,
      Send a message via TELEGRAM to acknowledge your Prize.🎁🔥

  • @johnnielson4341
    @johnnielson4341 Před rokem +5

    Puerto Rico has held referendums about statehood multiple times and it always gets voted down.

  • @Perico3000XD
    @Perico3000XD Před rokem +34

    In fact, there is a movement in Puerto Rico to reunify with Spain.

    • @koalabear1984
      @koalabear1984 Před rokem +18

      Absolutely based

    • @gabrielmora5092
      @gabrielmora5092 Před rokem +7

      Yes. But it have even less support the the independence movement (which have 2-5% of the votes)

    • @jlm3744
      @jlm3744 Před rokem +2

      There is but its very small. They don't even have a political party for that status option.

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 Před rokem

      =NOT GONNA HAPPEN EVER AS US'S MILITARY BASES WONT GO ANYWHERE,AND ONLY STATEHOOD REALLY PROTECTS PEOPLE
      ......I'LL JUST MENTION ABOUT CUBA WAS GIVEN INDEPENDENCE ONLY TO FORCIBLY ABUSING IT'S PEOPLE BY ANY WAY OF EXPLOITATION WHICH TURNED REBELLIOUS THOUGHTS RISE THERE WHICH TURNED CUBA TO COMMUNIST REGIME

    • @georgehillyer7959
      @georgehillyer7959 Před rokem

      Spain is not aware of this. That may be an issue.

  • @stephenschiffman5940
    @stephenschiffman5940 Před rokem +422

    One detail that he left out is that there was (and still is) no concession to make to conservatives if it were made a state.
    The mostly conservative Alaska and the mostly liberal Hawaii were able to get statehood around the same time because neither party saw the move as "handing the other side two more senators." However, as the US is now out of territories that would lean conservative if given statehood, there's no concession to give to Republicans that would make them vote "Yes" on giving Democrats 2 more Senate seats.

    • @largebubbahubba
      @largebubbahubba Před rokem +209

      so what you're saying is that the will of the people is being ignored in favor of partisanship?

    • @alex_ho
      @alex_ho Před rokem +82

      @@largebubbahubba it's just parliamentary politics yo!

    • @michaelrodriguez2072
      @michaelrodriguez2072 Před rokem +82

      I would argue that Puerto Rico isn't particularly as left leaning as other state seeking territories like DC. In fact many ideas in the island can go either way.

    • @ronkolek613
      @ronkolek613 Před rokem +62

      @@largebubbahubba always has. Why they didn’t let in a free state without letting in a slave state at the same time.
      In this regards though, let eastern Washington & Oregon split off and form their own state. Problem solved.

    • @aaronTGP_3756
      @aaronTGP_3756 Před rokem +38

      Puerto Rico is actually quite purple.

  • @jsgarage8744
    @jsgarage8744 Před rokem

    Maine sinking and empire building has a nice ring to it.

  • @Ralphieboy
    @Ralphieboy Před měsícem +1

    Also, Spanish is an official language in Puerto Rico (along with English) and is spoken by a majority of the population. That is also a stick issue with many Mainland American Linguistic Nationalists.

  • @historiacontaco
    @historiacontaco Před rokem +322

    As a Puerto Rican, I believe the independence movement is not dead but it does have significantly less support. A big consensus of people agree on keeping the status quo for A) not wanting to become a state B) independence can be scary for some. I have to agree with Texxon who commented earlier that most of the support for statehood is mostly because of years propaganda and the belief that the pro-statehood political party instills on its supporters that becoming a state will magically solve all of the island's problems.

    • @shawndemetrios7899
      @shawndemetrios7899 Před rokem +15

      Wouldn't statehood be a huge help though?

    • @Eowunyth
      @Eowunyth Před rokem +6

      Again, PR has voted to be a state numerous times over the last decade. The status quo is statehood, not commonwealth.

    • @_blank-_
      @_blank-_ Před rokem +43

      @@Eowunyth Status quo means "as is", so commonwealth is currently the status quo.

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 Před rokem +3

      =WHAT INDEPENDENCE???THE US WONT BE LEAVING EVER,THOUGH.......SO IT'LL BE LIKE INDEPENDENCE OF JAPAN,FOR EXAMPLE......ESPECIALLY ON OKINAWA,WHERE PEOPLE ARE RIGHTLESS TOWARDS US MILITARY THAT LIVE THERE
      =AND IF PR WILL BE THE STATE,PR'S LOCALS WONT BE SUFFERING ANY POSSIBLE INEQUALITY WITH MILITARY

    • @Eterna7Forms
      @Eterna7Forms Před rokem +3

      Probably? Even if Puerto Rico was brought to the standard of living of Mississippi it would be a material transformation of the island. Still there are cultural considerations.

  • @sgurdmeal662
    @sgurdmeal662 Před rokem +8

    I really appreciate the effort to pronounce Puerto Rico accurately, good speed!

  • @TheRedStateBlue
    @TheRedStateBlue Před rokem +1

    because we wrote a song called "Fifty Nifty United States" and it would be a pain in the as to try to make a verse rhyme with "fifty-one."

  • @andrewcutler4513
    @andrewcutler4513 Před rokem +1

    I do remember President Carter publicly "floating" the idea once. - But I never heard anything more about it after that one time.

  • @cespu_iv4519
    @cespu_iv4519 Před rokem +41

    They didn't press "Grant statehood to Puerto Rico" in the decision tab.
    Weird because it costs only 25pp!

  • @eastmeetswestpresents6923

    Here's some of my ideas for future videos:
    1) Was the Library of Alexandria THAT important?
    2) How did England/Britain/UK acquire the Channel Islands (Jersey, Guernsey and Alderney)?
    3) Why did China not colonise Australia?
    4) Why did China not have an Industrial Revolution?
    5) Why did the Philippines have 5 republics?
    6) How did the rest of the world react to the Chernobyl meltdown?
    7) How did the rest of the world react to the bombing of Hiroshima?
    8) What was the Munster Rebellion?
    9) Who was the most popular/well-liked monarch in history?
    10) Why was there a Anglo-Zanzibar War of 1896 that lasted 38 minutes?
    11) Who was Larry Thorne, the man who fought for 3 sides during 3 wars?
    12) Who was Yang Kyoungjong, the man who fought for 3 sides in WWII?
    13) Who was Jack Churchill, the man who carried a sword and bow to WWII?
    14) Who was Digby Tatham-Warter, the man who carried an umbrella to WWII?
    15) Why did the Jacobite Rebellions of the 18th Century fail?

    • @TheCaptainSplatter
      @TheCaptainSplatter Před rokem

      For one apparently it wasn't. There was copies of everything in other libraries. People like to think it set us back 1 thousand years but it didn't set us back at all. Was still a nice library though

    • @eastmeetswestpresents6923
      @eastmeetswestpresents6923 Před rokem +1

      @@TheCaptainSplatter I agree that it's overrated and other copies of works found in that library can be found in others.
      For some reason, I think that racism might also have something to do with it - after all people romanticise how the loss of the Alexandrine library set us back a lot but the same can't be said of the Baghdad House of Wisdom when it was sacked by Mongolians

  • @ohcrap3263
    @ohcrap3263 Před rokem +9

    Alaska was not annexed, it was purchased from Russia in a deal called “Sewards Folly”

    • @yondie491
      @yondie491 Před 4 měsíci +1

      A nation can own un-annexed land. They're two separate processes.

    • @minelayer26
      @minelayer26 Před měsícem +1

      meaning it was annexed

    • @ohcrap3263
      @ohcrap3263 Před měsícem

      @@minelayer26 using your reasoning everything I purchased I really just annexed it.

    • @minelayer26
      @minelayer26 Před měsícem +1

      @@ohcrap3263 the USA purchased alaska from the russian empire, two governments participating in a land exchange, where russia granted the united states full sovereignty over alaska, therefore annexing it, utter strawman argument

    • @ohcrap3263
      @ohcrap3263 Před měsícem

      @@minelayer26 Annexation: A nation occupying a territory and taking direct control of it.
      Acquisition: Getting possession of something. (in this context, a nation taking, or being granted, a piece of land or territory)
      Annexation is a more direct form of acquisition.
      For example, when Britain first conquered India, they acquired it and placed it under the jurisdiction of the East India Company. Later, Company rule was dissolved and replaced with direct administration of the British Raj. This would have been the annexation of India. Parts of India remained semi-sovereign and not-annexed -- the Princely States and these were pseudo-independent 'kingdoms' that were under British control but not part of the Raj.
      When the United States purchased Louisiana from France in 1803, it was made into the Louisiana Territory. This was an acquisition of territory, and could be argued, even before statehood, to be annexation because it was an organized incorporated territory. Parts of the Louisiana Territory were partitioned and admitted as states, like Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, etc., into the Union.
      In the late 19th century, European powers colonized the South Pacific islands. They were acquired, but remained overseas territories that weren't directly annexed. To this day there are a number of British and French overseas territories.
      Britain has not annexed their overseas territories, which are not part of the United Kingdom. France has annexed their overseas territories, which are regarded as Overseas France and governed partially or fully by the French national government.

  • @raulvega3335
    @raulvega3335 Před rokem +2

    When the constitution of PR was put in place, the Gag law was already in place which made it illegal to be patriotic towards anything Puerto Rican including owning a PR flag, singing any hymns, speaking Spanish in school, and most importantly being pro independence. The fact PR is a commonwealth was the perfect manipulation of a People

  • @CoconutPalmPictures
    @CoconutPalmPictures Před rokem +27

    You are among the best video makers on CZcams: concise, lots of facts, very little fluff, always fast-paced and enertaining. Thank you!

  • @kaizersolze
    @kaizersolze Před rokem +10

    1:32 I love the look of shock-horror.

  • @TheAestheticSoul
    @TheAestheticSoul Před rokem +3

    Puerto Rico 🇵🇷❤️ is a Country more than a Territory.

  • @danielhuneke5862
    @danielhuneke5862 Před měsícem +2

    Short answer; it's going to happen, just after we do the paperwork, later.

  • @adriansz343
    @adriansz343 Před rokem +5

    Bruh that newspaper at 2:20, I'm dead

  • @jasonquigley2633
    @jasonquigley2633 Před 5 měsíci

    I think another important factor in the Puerto Rico statehood /independence question is the Puerto Rican diaspora in the Continental United States. It's massive, and there are now more Puerto Ricans living in the continental United States then on Puerto Rico itself. This is a relatively recent phenomenon (this immigration mostly occurred after ww2). This means that almost every Puerto Rican has siblings or cousins living in the 50 states. Such family ties makes closer relations (like statehood) more appealing. It also makes independence more difficult, as it would essentially tear families apart (a post independence PR probably having as difficult immigration/visa rules to the USA as anywhere else in Latin America).

  • @tropicaussie4572
    @tropicaussie4572 Před rokem

    There's no more room for another star on their beloved Stars and Stripes !

  • @CarlosRiveraFernandez
    @CarlosRiveraFernandez Před rokem +153

    Puerto Rican filmmaker/anthropologist here! Would like to offer some corrections if I may. The issue of statehood vs independence is a bit more complicated than you put it (though for a three minute video on history I suppose it suffices). Throughout the twentieth century, independence movement leaders were viciously targeted by federal agencies like the FBI and many were jailed in McCarthy-like trials (some even without). The movement itself was also severely repressed, with laws like the Gag Law (1948-1958) making it illegal to espouse any emancipatory rhetoric and even prohibiting the display of the Puerto Rican flag. As such, many people who desired independence were forced to hide their sentiments or were jailed for expressing them.
    Today, while the referenda have increasingly shown pro-statehood desires, many people end up boycotting them because they are written by the leading (and corrupt) pro-statehood party, and are thus often skewed in the favor of statehood. The 2017 referendum, for example, had a 97% majority vote for statehood, but something like a 23% voter turnout. Word of mouth sentiments on the island, especially with younger generations, are increasingly anti-statehood and pro-independence, as the last decade has especially shown how apathetic the US government can be towards the island.
    In general, a well made video, just offering some perspectives. Thank you for highlighting the subject!

    • @reeyees50
      @reeyees50 Před rokem

      Ruben Berrios, Toño Gonzales.....Juan Mari Bras 1977

    • @lars1701again
      @lars1701again Před rokem +6

      what does it matter who wrote the referendum? Don't get me wrong I couldn't care either way if its a state or a independent country (i'm against keeping the status quo)

    • @briancartwright7
      @briancartwright7 Před rokem +2

      Puerto Rico is a liability

    • @reeyees50
      @reeyees50 Před rokem +1

      @@briancartwright7 Liability!? Puerto Ricans dont even have that dumb politically charged word. Listen to this expert, CIA were actively crushing any independance movement. Also, be real. Cuba is next door, Cuba had missles pointed at the USA, naturally the USA needs a good territory for invasion in case diplomacy goes south

    • @lars1701again
      @lars1701again Před rokem +7

      @@reeyees50 I could be totally wrong but they have the best of both worlds now, if they become a state they have to pay federal taxes and if they go off on their own they have to pay for defense, infrastructure etc.

  • @ThatSlowTypingGuy
    @ThatSlowTypingGuy Před rokem +5

    2:34 I always like these timelapse bits.

  • @NatureXwars
    @NatureXwars Před rokem

    Do Guam next?

  • @Earwaxfire909
    @Earwaxfire909 Před rokem

    How do weather costs affect ideas about PR joining the US?

  • @utonation1
    @utonation1 Před rokem +15

    Make an episode on James Bissonette! Lets support this idea guys!!!!

    • @enovos3138
      @enovos3138 Před rokem +3

      I'm more of a Kelly money maker guy myself.

  • @hfar_in_the_sky
    @hfar_in_the_sky Před rokem +143

    Ah yes, the fine tradition of "kick that can down the road, we'll deal with it later." An American political tradition as old as American politics itself

    • @folofus4815
      @folofus4815 Před rokem +23

      Nothing more permanent than a temporary solution!

    • @xraymind
      @xraymind Před rokem +12

      "All men are created equal"
      But we have slavery in the South
      Kick that can down the road, we'll deal with it later
      Well, that's was a BIG deal

    • @RK-cj4oc
      @RK-cj4oc Před rokem +5

      Not just American political tradition. the entire world.

    • @romanboi3115
      @romanboi3115 Před rokem +2

      @@xraymind kicking the can out of necessity, America dividing over slavery right after independence would've simply caused the britts to come back

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před rokem +3

      @@romanboi3115 except Thomas Jefferson one of the most prominent people in the south almost supported abolition in the Declaration of Independence. Had he done that we would live in a different country

  • @alejandrorobles1343
    @alejandrorobles1343 Před rokem

    Ahhh, can kicking. Great sum up

    • @Historymatters0
      @Historymatters0 Před rokem

      Thank you ✌️for watching and leaving a comment,
      Send a message via TELEGRAM to acknowledge your Prize.🎁🎁🔥

  • @Jomonoupapjanmbliyew
    @Jomonoupapjanmbliyew Před rokem

    Can kicking 😂 I love that term.

  • @ericbergfield6451
    @ericbergfield6451 Před rokem +5

    I was just wondering about this very topic, thanks for the research & sharing the info!

  • @BrownFoxWarrior
    @BrownFoxWarrior Před rokem +124

    One of my family's friends was from Puerto Rico. He started dirt poor and worked his way into a comfortable life with a good family in the U.S. Being big into economics, he one day explained to my mother and I many reasons about potential statehood of Puerto Rico and why it likely wouldn't work without prior political reforms. Wish I had wrote some of them down, because at the time I was way lost in the economic explanations to really understand his points at the time.

    • @calebrivera8913
      @calebrivera8913 Před rokem +10

      @@robotnikkkk001 The only way to protet our interests is independence, statehood would mean, our law (federal) would be dictated by what the majority of American representatives want, not the majority of puerto ricans.

    • @Nperez1986
      @Nperez1986 Před rokem +1

      My father and before literally had a dirt floor to live on

    • @huffingpuff
      @huffingpuff Před rokem +2

      @@robotnikkkk001 Christ your caps lock is on you know

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 Před rokem

      @@calebrivera8913 Would cutting the citizenship benefits to Puerto Ricans help them maintain their autonomy too? Lets limit Puerto Ricans access to FULL citizenship benefits while living in the US until they sign a formal document of allegiance to the US. Are Puerto Rican men subject to the draft, the way American men are? I never bothered to ask them before.

    • @charlemagnethegreat2916
      @charlemagnethegreat2916 Před rokem +5

      @@inconnu4961 Puerto Rican men are drafted during WW2 and Vietnam War. Puerto Rican National Guards can be called up as well.

  • @JoeVirella
    @JoeVirella Před rokem

    Thank you so much for the video. Glad it blew up!

  • @Firebringer121
    @Firebringer121 Před rokem +1

    Some forgot where the incorporate state button was.

  • @marvincolon
    @marvincolon Před rokem

    Thank you

  • @gideonmele1556
    @gideonmele1556 Před rokem +28

    Finally an easier way to answer this to foreigners. It’s more complicated than shown but a good rundown so instead of a giving a mini university lecture to foreign friends I can just send them this

    • @DonesdeMotivacion
      @DonesdeMotivacion Před rokem +1

      mano, calling everyone who's not a puertorrican a foreigner is not nice

    • @zackg6216
      @zackg6216 Před rokem

      @@DonesdeMotivacion
      for·eign·er
      a person not belonging to a particular place or group; a stranger or outsider.

    • @gideonmele1556
      @gideonmele1556 Před rokem

      @@DonesdeMotivacion es más para personas fuera de 🇺🇸 que desean comprender la dinámica única. Pero bueno, si así lo quieres entender

    • @DonesdeMotivacion
      @DonesdeMotivacion Před rokem

      @@zackg6216 you have a big problem if you pretend to call everyone you don't know a
      Fo-reig-ner. a little bit of grandiosity on the statement, BTW you have a Foreign name

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 Před rokem

      @@DonesdeMotivacion You are right! Foreigner brings negative connotations, especially when directed at fellow Americans! There seems to be a fair amount of hostility between Puerto Ricans and non-Puerto Ricans in our urban areas, ESPECIALLY during political seasons! We need to tread lightly here!

  • @TheFishAteYou
    @TheFishAteYou Před rokem +8

    A fun special this channel could do is the history of Star Wars. Like I’m phases. The fall of the old republic. The clone wars. Idk. I bet it would be fun listening to this person just explain Star Wars with his jokes and fun animation

  • @TheMostSLENDERking
    @TheMostSLENDERking Před rokem

    THANK Goodness

  • @DRew2KRup
    @DRew2KRup Před rokem +2

    Not sure what's stopping them now but as I remember my time there when I was younger I remember Puerto Ricans absolutely hating Americans but loving our money

  • @harrytheprince6951
    @harrytheprince6951 Před rokem +6

    I love the detail you put in those newspaper articles shown in your video

  • @payodomingo6789
    @payodomingo6789 Před rokem +51

    As a puertorican i hope you can cover el grito de lares/ scream of lares

    • @jasondiaz8431
      @jasondiaz8431 Před rokem +1

      Anything the American Government has ever done pales in comparison to what has been done to the western states.

    • @jaimepujol5507
      @jaimepujol5507 Před rokem +4

      I don't know the actual history, but I think that unfortunately an unsuccesful attempt at independence in a country that never achieved independence wouldn't make a great story in a general history channel. Maybe in an episode dedicated to the several uprisings towards the end of the Spanish Empire?

    • @payodomingo6789
      @payodomingo6789 Před rokem +2

      @@jaimepujol5507 ouch

    • @Nperez1986
      @Nperez1986 Před rokem +7

      Against the Spanish, we also have alot or rebels/turmoil in US history that no one talks about, part of Manifest Destiny time frame

    • @enovos3138
      @enovos3138 Před rokem +1

      @@Nperez1986 Hey someone else knows about the rebellions against the US.

  • @tavonfenwick-yb5xv
    @tavonfenwick-yb5xv Před rokem +1

    I think as of summer 2023 the idea of statehood for Puerto Rico is FINALLY being entertained

    • @VMan29397
      @VMan29397 Před 17 dny

      No it's not. State hood is dead in Puerto Rico. In the last major election in Puerto Rico 67% of puerto ricans who voted voted against the prostatehood new progressive party the only reason they even won the governor's house was because the vote was split between the popular Democratic Party the puerto rican independence party the citizens victory movement party and the far right-wing project dignity party. In fact going into this current election the 2 left-wing parties the point of region independence party and citizens victory movement party have joined forces and are behind pro-independence candidate juan dalmau For governor and he's currently in second place in the polls by under 2%

  • @JoseDiaz-so6hf
    @JoseDiaz-so6hf Před rokem +1

    There's a saying among Puerto Ricans that goes... "my heart has place for one star, not 50". And another is.... "every Puerto Rican believes in independence after two beers".

  • @PHX787
    @PHX787 Před rokem +53

    After hurricanes Irma and Maria, it became pretty obvious that the US Gov needed to really take a look at the status of Puerto Rico...only thing is, as you stated...the resulting action is not just kicking the can but more or less punting it

    • @SuperCatacata
      @SuperCatacata Před rokem

      US govt supposed to start nuking the Hurricanes before they hit PR or something?

    • @taranwanderer7747
      @taranwanderer7747 Před rokem +2

      If Puerto Rico wants statehood they're going to have to be louder about it. The US Gov is unwilling to force statehood or independence onto Puerto Rico because the modern Western belief is it's the choice of a territories residents.

    • @kassiogomes8498
      @kassiogomes8498 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@taranwanderer7747they voted for statehood several times. The congress just didn't accept it.

  • @notanotherremix9791
    @notanotherremix9791 Před rokem +4

    Man I love your videos, you making them at such a fast rate now! So impressive.

  • @00_rei90
    @00_rei90 Před měsícem +1

    As a young zoomer puerto rican I feel the issue of statehood to be less relevant as domestic migration become more prevalent in the last 20 years. A more pressing issue is the need to address an essentially bankrupted puerto rico government as these migration caused declining revenues which spiralling into more people leaving PR to the mainland.

  • @hisham_hm
    @hisham_hm Před rokem +21

    Thank you Kelly Moneymaker, Charles Paskowski and Boogly Woogly for sponsoring another short animated documentary!

  • @Mr_M_History
    @Mr_M_History Před rokem +383

    Imagine being able to be conscripted but unable to vote...

    • @stevenarnold5151
      @stevenarnold5151 Před rokem +7

      Loved your Boris Yeltsin video. Very helpful!

    • @HannoversSoap
      @HannoversSoap Před rokem +10

      Well do you know how most British lower class people got voting rights in the 1910s?

    • @kingdmind
      @kingdmind Před rokem +8

      Yep. WW2, Korean War, Iraq War…
      Grandfather saved himself from the Koreans by calling himself sick

    • @wederMaxim
      @wederMaxim Před rokem +1

      О, недавно видел ваше видел про нашего алкоголика.

    • @Angiie884
      @Angiie884 Před rokem +5

      I've had family members that went to serve Korea and suffered from physical problems as a result... and we still can't vote

  • @romulusnr
    @romulusnr Před rokem +125

    It's interesting that Hawaiian statehood was so popular in Hawaii considering it was literally overthrown by a US corporation's coup and then annexed for the profits it would enable. I guess time heals most wounds.
    My understanding of PR is that independence sentiment isn't really dead, but it's more work than most people are willing to deal with, and the status quo ain't that bad. Now, post-Maria, post-toallas-papeles tossing, maybe that's drifted a bit.

    • @RM-el3gw
      @RM-el3gw Před rokem +64

      Honestly if you're a random relatively not-well-off island, being part of the US is a very enticing proposition. Lots of benefits in the forms of investments etc, and the best military protection you can get on this planet

    • @marw9541
      @marw9541 Před rokem +56

      Hawaii was predominantly Asian at the time, and a lot of the people that immigrated to Hawaii benefitted from those plantations, so actually makes quite a bit of sense. If it were predominantly Native Hawaiian that would be a different story, but demographics win in democracy over actual cultural ties, unfortunately
      Edit: To everyone misunderstanding, it isn't about one group having control over another or one being subject to another, but that to ignore one segment of a population for the sole benefit of another is the issue. That there should be a system of compromise and communication. Everyone trying to imply that I am saying "Native Hawaiian should have 100% political control over the majority Asian that live there" are missing the point by miles, when it was never implied in the first place. I only expressed concern with numbers being the sole decider in the lives of people.

    • @crocidile90
      @crocidile90 Před rokem +51

      The actual Hawaiian population is a minority on the islands and the US government takeover of the corporations was better than being a corporate puppet state. Also WW2 and pearl harbor kinda makes some past misdeeds forgivable. Also statehood has allowed Hawaii to stay financially stable after fruit and coffee markets went foreign in the 70's and no customs for Americans to deal with made tourism Hawaii's life blood. (And as a former Florida resident, I understand the PAIN of dumbass tourists making NPCs look intelligent).

    • @strongback6550
      @strongback6550 Před rokem +13

      I mean, considering that without protection from US, Hawaii would have been seized as a Japanese territory, so realities of their own ability to defend themselves, state of other nations on US' "backyard" and the geopolitical prospect of a statehood sounds pretty good in contrast to the alternatives.

    • @Zeruel3
      @Zeruel3 Před rokem

      @@strongback6550 It would have probably been either a British protectorate or Japanese puppet by WW2 if the US hadn't helped overthrow their queen. If it was Japanese the US would've pushed them off of it and probably admitted it as a state at some point, maybe post civil rights movement

  • @kiko_animal1459
    @kiko_animal1459 Před rokem +3

    As a Puerto Rican born and raised I have to say is that the video is well resumed the only thing is that right now pro state movement and the pro independence are pretty equal in supporters plus there these 2 are not the only major political movements, there pro state/ pro independence/ pro being just an US territory. And I’m finishing with this the majority of pro state supporters are older generations while younger generations tend to lean more pro independence.

  • @JuanTorres-hv5ig
    @JuanTorres-hv5ig Před rokem +2

    P.R., the World's oldest Colony. 529 YEARS!

  • @tommunism8778
    @tommunism8778 Před rokem +4

    Love this channel

  • @patrickmulligan4440
    @patrickmulligan4440 Před rokem +28

    The US also received Cuba from Spain during this war, but Cuba was given independence in 1902

    • @XxTurk3ybo1xX
      @XxTurk3ybo1xX Před rokem +5

      0:35 read the document

    • @admiralkaede
      @admiralkaede Před rokem +9

      Yea and look how cuba repaid us

    • @robotnikkkk001
      @robotnikkkk001 Před rokem

      =AND WHAT WAS RIGHT AFTER????EXPLOITING LOCAL PEOPLE THAT WAS SO TOO MUCH SO CASTRO EMERGED
      ......IF CUBA WOULD'VE BE GIVEN A STATEHOOD,NO CASTRO WOULD'V2E EVER HAPPEN....UNDERSTAND????

    • @FirstnameLastname-kn5sw
      @FirstnameLastname-kn5sw Před rokem

      @@admiralkaede How they repaid you after Batista and the mob or after the Bay of Pigs?
      And why do you think the US went into Cuba? Because of 'The Main' lol?

    • @Nperez1986
      @Nperez1986 Před rokem

      @@admiralkaede Look at how WE repaid CUBA. If you read the Constitution of Cuba, the US forcibly placed in writing that the US had FULL Authority to come in with its military in interest of ITS OWN Business sectors...imagine China having the Ability's to take away from the US New York city or even worst, Texas, free willing? You sew what you reap...why do you think Leftists were rising in Latin America in the 1940-1960's? It's not random

  • @oguzman196419821996
    @oguzman196419821996 Před rokem +1

    There is a minor misconception about federal taxes. While most residents of 🇵🇷 do not pay federal taxes, the same can not be said for federal employees (to include federal retirees). All federal income is taxed for federal workers based on Puerto.

  • @rebelbatdave5993
    @rebelbatdave5993 Před 9 měsíci

    Beautiful Island!
    Just crazy drivers!
    Pryer Coast Guard!

  • @ZhongXina01
    @ZhongXina01 Před rokem +47

    Thanks this is sure to help me pass the Pro-State exam!

  • @oneminuteofmyday
    @oneminuteofmyday Před rokem +65

    I’ve actually heard a few people say the reason is because the US doesn’t want to redesign the flag again to add another star. These people apparently haven’t recovered from having to buy new flags when Alaska and Hawaii became states. Because, you know, that’s asking a little too much.

    • @mikekostrzewski7813
      @mikekostrzewski7813 Před rokem +49

      I’ll be cold in the ground before I recognize Missouri.

    • @gobblox38
      @gobblox38 Před rokem +2

      There are already designs for 51 and 52 star flags.

    • @scottmolnar4132
      @scottmolnar4132 Před rokem +6

      I still fly my 48 star flag

    • @oneminuteofmyday
      @oneminuteofmyday Před rokem +2

      @@mikekostrzewski7813 Your comment literally made me laugh out loud. lol

    • @crocidile90
      @crocidile90 Před rokem +4

      There was at one point (pre American-Mexican war and just before the American Civil war) where the US just kept adding states with the shortest lived flag only being around for 8 MONTHS before another state was added.
      Also if we want even stars for adding Puerto Rico, just chop off south Oregon and Northern California (i.e. Chico and up, Sacramento is central Cali) and make the state of Jefferson.

  • @Rayven001
    @Rayven001 Před rokem

    As a person who lives in PR, I'm interested

  • @WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle
    @WhydoIsuddenlyhaveahandle Před 7 měsíci +1

    My favorite is when, in the World Baseball Classic, the United States plays against Puerto Rico. I didn't realize a country could play itself rofl
    The idea of them being seperate is like how the Marines and Spaceforce don't accept they are part of the Navy and Air Force departments, respectively.
    Great video as usual! Thanks to all the Puerto Ricans commeting!

    • @tigeruntamed6036
      @tigeruntamed6036 Před 5 měsíci

      Don’t know why the idea of a Marine is to approach from the sea. Hence Navy. Space could technically be considered in the sky that’s why it’s part of the Air Force

  • @JustJohn505
    @JustJohn505 Před rokem +31

    I'm puerto rican that moved to the U.S and I would love my island to become a state but sadly not everyone shares my idea

    • @evelynbeveraggi8724
      @evelynbeveraggi8724 Před rokem +6

      I share it!😊

    • @DonesdeMotivacion
      @DonesdeMotivacion Před rokem +6

      As a Puertorrican, I support Statehood.
      Our Island needs the robust and straight forward model that only American Democracy and Statehood could provide, and yes, the transition wouldn't be easy.
      Otherwise with Independence we wouldn't be able to close the GINI gap since European Descendant elites with French, Irish and Italian Last Name will rise to power quickly.
      Independent we will experience a significant drop on PPP as institutions leave, people leave and the exodus of industries
      Independent our GPD will receive a blow and easily reduced to Haiti's or El Salvador's level

    • @laveredasecreta
      @laveredasecreta Před rokem

      How old were you when you left the island?

    • @JM-nt5ex
      @JM-nt5ex Před rokem +2

      @@DonesdeMotivacion So you think that outsiders will gain more power independent than as a state? Have you *ever* been to Louisiana? Or maybe Hawaii?

    • @chiensyang
      @chiensyang Před rokem

      Ask James Bisonette to support PR's statehood. You will succeed. Good luck.

  • @Angiie884
    @Angiie884 Před rokem +217

    Proud to be Puerto Rican and to learn the story that was never taught to me in school!!! 🇵🇷❤️

    • @Warlock_Lelouch
      @Warlock_Lelouch Před rokem +4

      That’s cool my dude 👍. Quick question though, is it true what he said about more people wanting to become a state?

    • @michaelrodriguez2072
      @michaelrodriguez2072 Před rokem +3

      Same here🇵🇷

    • @adrien.p4070
      @adrien.p4070 Před rokem +4

      Same 🇵🇷👍

    • @komododragon410
      @komododragon410 Před rokem +1

      So you guys want to be State?

    • @Angiie884
      @Angiie884 Před rokem +11

      @@Warlock_Lelouch In recent years yes, most recent poling shows great support for it, but nowadays I can't say for sure, you see, there's a growing movement in opposition to rich American folk who come and place property on our coasts which by law are supposed to be public, meaning the law hasn't kept up with this making us the locals mad at this.
      Related to this issue is also the increase of Americans taking advantage of tax reductions by establishing their businesses here.
      Finally the response to the last few hurricanes (Irma, Maria and Fiona) have left a lot to be desired, the money wasn't well used and there were entire containers of water and supplies that were never put to use. Thousands of death are the result of these malpractices and I'm pretty sure that reduces support.
      I hope my answer responds your question well

  • @lugano1999
    @lugano1999 Před měsícem +1

    I am a native New Yorker who fell in love with PR back in 1981 when my company held a sales conference there.
    I have since spent on average 3 weeks there a year for the last 40 years.
    I am also fluent in Spanish and have many friends there.
    Based on my experience, as well as study, I would agree that the many polls that have been taken over the years show one thing fairly clearly: independence is favored by only about 4-5% of the population.
    The rest is murky.
    For years it seems that status quo was favored by about 55%, statehood by about 40%.
    Lately, a greater number of people prefer statehood: I think it's about 50-55%.
    Puerto Ricans residing in the 50 states proper however overwhelmingly prefer statehood.
    And, the irony is that there are several times more Puerto Ricans living in the 50 states than in Puerto Rico proper.
    So, as of now, there is still no overwhelming majority who favor statehood.
    It probably needs to get to about 80% before it could happen.

    • @VMan29397
      @VMan29397 Před měsícem

      Really thats why the pro independence canidate for gov is going to win the election. Dude the pro independence camp protest those referendums. Statehood when factoring the entire voting base compared to those that partake in those referendums comes out to 27% in favor of statehood

    • @VMan29397
      @VMan29397 Před 17 dny

      This is where you're wrong. Statehood has actually declined in support. Remember you can only go by those who actually vote in the referendums So when calculating the percentage of support you have to factor in the percentage of turnout they get the actual number the 61% you saw in 2012 wasn't actually 61% but more like 46% when factoring in turnout so then when you look at it at 2020 the 52% that said yes to statehood were compared to the 54% turnout comes to around 28% support So in fact stay put over the last few years exactly substantially decreased in support. In fact with the current polling done in Puerto Rico right now the pro-independence candidate for governor is in second place In polling by only 1.5%

  • @famouscriminals18
    @famouscriminals18 Před rokem +8

    So only like 1/3rd of the island votes. Most people outside of San Juan don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other. The current governor of Puerto Rico wants statehood, he got 39 percent of the vote. The 2nd place candidate wants Puerto Rico to stay unincorporated, he got 34 percent. Finally, the Independence Party got 6 percent of the popular. Which is interesting because if Texas had an Independence Party, it’d get like 20 percent.
    People who don’t want statehood believe making Puerto Rico a state would be complicated. Their political parties are a little different from ours. Thinking they’ll embrace our two party system is a stretch. Some the federal laws are different, for example the drinking age is 18. If they had to follow our laws and pay taxes like Americans then it’d create frustration.
    People who do want statehood are irritated with the local government corruption. They believe the US would be more concerned with the issues of PR if it were a state. They also want a say in American Elections because the president can make crucial decisions involving Puerto Rico. More American politicians would make promises for Puerto Rico if Puerto Ricans had voting power.
    The independence movement barley has traction. Folks in Puerto Rico enjoy being able to travel to the US freely without a passport. In fact, there’s actually more Puerto Ricans on the mainland than the island. Taking that away would create some issues.
    It wouldn’t help the island very much. PR would stop receiving disaster relief from The US, less benefits in general. Independence is like a symbolic thing mostly. A fringe group of people who believe their country was taken from them and don’t like being considered a colony. It’s more of an ego thing rather than a “how are we gonna make our country better?” thing.

    • @VMan29397
      @VMan29397 Před 17 dny

      Independence is not a Fringe group their govenor Candidate is currently second in polling

  • @betitovader
    @betitovader Před rokem +29

    0:23 Correction , Puerto Rico was an overseas province of Spain … not a colony.

    • @thecris6100
      @thecris6100 Před rokem +2

      JAJAJAJAJA

    • @katmannsson
      @katmannsson Před rokem +2

      "Corporate needs you to tell me the difference between these two pictures" "They're the Same Picture"

    • @betitovader
      @betitovader Před rokem +9

      @@katmannsson a colony is a territory completely dominated by another larger country without a say or voice in its political future or the larger government. As a province of Spain Puerto Rico enjoyed representation and autonomy with Madrid

    • @Olsjaz
      @Olsjaz Před rokem +1

      @@betitovader the only people who confuse those things are the British pirates. because they think that, they are all colonies like the ones they made.

    • @cfosnock
      @cfosnock Před rokem +5

      Not really it was granted autonomy a few years before it was annexed, but calling it a providence is being very generous. "Spain had the power to give Puerto Rico away. Puerto Rico was clearly a colony of Spain." "On November 25, 1897, when the Carta Autonómica (Charter of Autonomy), which conceded political and administrative autonomy to the island, was approved in Spain....The charter maintained a governor appointed by Spain, who held the power to veto any legislative decision he disagreed with..."

  • @GratefulRobin
    @GratefulRobin Před rokem +56

    Currently there is a bill in the House of Representatives (H.R. 1522) that would give Puerto Ricans a referendum that would make Puerto Rico either a country or a State

    • @zachatck64
      @zachatck64 Před rokem +33

      It's gone nowhere for a whole year

    • @B727X
      @B727X Před rokem +4

      If it becomes a state then Northern California needs to become one to balance it out

    • @gustavosauro1882
      @gustavosauro1882 Před rokem +8

      @@B727X balance what?

    • @Astro_Guy_1
      @Astro_Guy_1 Před rokem +9

      @@B727X We aren't in the 19th century anymore, where the US decides states based upon creating a "balance" between political ideologies.

    • @evanlovesbacongames161
      @evanlovesbacongames161 Před rokem +6

      @@gustavosauro1882 51 stars would look weird, i suggest also making quam a state for 52

  • @jimdellavecchia4594
    @jimdellavecchia4594 Před rokem

    I had a meeting in PR a few years ago. They said it started early, at noon!!! LAZY!!

  • @f3n1xplat3ad0
    @f3n1xplat3ad0 Před rokem +5

    I'm born and raised in PR. I have been living in the continental USA for 10 yrs.
    I wish for P.R to become a state. However, I don't see it happening any time soon.

    • @Historymatters0
      @Historymatters0 Před rokem

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    • @VMan29397
      @VMan29397 Před 17 dny

      State hood is dead man. From 2012 to 2020 it dropped in support by 18%

  • @wannabedal-adx458
    @wannabedal-adx458 Před rokem +10

    1) Thank you for spelling "Harbor" correctly at 0:55. 😉😂
    2) 2:54 , "In the American political tradition, it was time for can kicking!" So true on many, many things.
    Great video, mate!

    • @SkepticalSteve01
      @SkepticalSteve01 Před rokem

      @wannabedal-adx458 No he doesn’t. Have another look at 0:55 - it says “Pearl Habor” on the welcome sign, which as far as I know is wrong in anybody’s language.