It was fun to actually get to play you MainMan! I would not be the player I am today if it wasn't for your videos, I hope we can play again offline in the future
As someone who has no interest in Lucky Chloe whatsoever it's just really cool to see the oddball characters get picked and completely wash the more common ones.
I hate Chloe but I love her, I like the idea make a character for 'bitches'. Like no way are you meant to like this character with THIS gameplay. Gameplay fun tho try her 🏴❤️😎
You can tell TMM was frustrated near the end. He was missing punishments and fell for several things that he has done well against before. Tough match to be honest. As he said, knowledge checks. GG to Kaizur and TMM.
@@Shibu_PL This game has so many characters and each of them is really complex. Moreover, Lucky Chloe is just one of those rare characters you encounter once a year or so. TMM had no chance of knowing the matchup. Same goes for top players, they don't know every single matchup in the game
Big props to Kaizur. He put in the work and just has the talent for Tekken. Unfortunately I heard in one of his streams that he is going to focus more on building a successful stream instead of trying to become a pro Tekken. As he stated and someone else like Lil Majin has before, the financial reward is just not there to pursue being a Tekken pro. I hope that changes someday.
Kaizur's a real chill dude and he ultimately plays with the mentality that I can only describe as "...fuck it" it's why he's hit some of the most random backswing blows ever, he'll clip you outta no where with the weeb slide, he genuinely just loves playing the game and he just plays with the ultimate party mentality which, for LC, is perfect.
Kaizur is a free spirit. You gotta not play how you normally do to win. It's almost a mixup after another mixup; if he thinks he can crush your highs or jumps over your low or if he's at a certain by the wall expect armor moves as well. If he's -4- -8, you have to always watch out for that backswing. I would recommend going into practice mode and pick lucky chloe and have your recorded computer be your main. Do your normal things on hit and see if Lucky Chloe can backswing blow it. I had to do this for Ling's Running 3 into AOP bc my AOP4 will get backswing blown, so i look for my other options that can kill that. I'm just a scrub that lives in his state; he terrorizes our locals all the time :P I also like to jump backwards at a certain range to deal with yeetsweep. The jump will go over the first and I will usually have time to land and block the 2nd one. It's tough, but you can't play your normal tekken against chloe is what I've concluded, playing Kaizur.
@@chucklos391 He's a good kid, plays CRAZY, but he's very fun and chill to be around!!! His playstyle is not something our grp is used to AT ALL, but it gets the job done. IF we lose to it, it's our own fault for not doing our homework. Funny thing is his brother plays Rashid in SFV and plays the same way, all-out offense. Must be genetic!! 😂😂
@@jimmypikachuchoi Haha! I love it! I seen a few of his streams and I could tell he's a good kid. No doubt. I wish he kept pushing his progress, but he's mentioned in several of his streams that he would rather be a streamer than a tournament pro. I get it his reasons, but great tournament results help with exposure for streams. He's so young and already talented he could develop into a true world Tekken monster.
8:00 TMM calls it BS I call it big brain plays, he did the double flip and low crushed TMM mashing wakeup3 and that was Oki from his jump over at the wall
Lucky Chloe is Eddy on steroids! She is annoying but her damage output is ridiculous. I see why someone would want to use her. This was a fun match to watch.
The main man love your videos and your funny personality, but I need help with Chloe as well, I was wondering what is the use of the backswing I am in orange ranks as a totally blind fighter with Chloe and her mixups help me along the way
The 2nd set/game. Kaizur only did one dash I believe - a backdash, if you exclude him running up for oki. He barely move at all, he just uses buttons. It's like watching someone on initiate play.
That backsway move is a crime against humanity. The fact you can be in a majorly advantageous position and then get launched by that move? That has to undermine a player's confidence something fierce having to face that. Credit to Kaizur though, his ability to read his opponents and his sense of risk vs reward is terrifyingly good.
That's what evasive moves do in fighting games. You can absolutely be +3, but you have to keep in mind your opponent's options: some characters have to respect you, others don't
If it helps I am wondering how people get up so fast after a screw attack, because sometimes I don’t expect them to get up so fast like that, I have a plan after knock down moves but they just come back so fast sometimes and it surprises me
The moment you notice that backswing is launch punishable and not 1 single punish for that Means he isn't doing it to unga bunga and he was reading and predicting his opponent
He wasn't salty. He lost at something he wanted to win very badly and took a competitive L so he expressed a lack of happiness but "salty" is just side line, instigator, internet talk.
KWiss gave respect where it was due. Kaizur's throw break harassment, wr3+4, and back swing placement are all terrifyingly effective. Especially in a tournament setting.
K-wiss wasn't that salty. He had a few moments of salt, but overall felt like Kaizer played well and he had an off day. He handled it way better than most people do when they lose to a LC. He did say he could probably beat Arslan in the breakdown video though of him getting beat by Kaizer tho, so I gotta call BS when I see it.
Dickjab to ws4 was such newbie things to do against competitive player. Kaizur capitalized that so hard with backswing launcher everytime TMM did that.
Agree. Moreover TMM is playing Kazuya, a character that relies on knowing the matchup, which he didn't. It would have been easier if he picked a character that goes unga bunga
How can TMM rate a character when he barely knows anything about them and how to deal with the character... It just shows how he has no idea what he's talking about when It's with characters he doesn't play much or at all.
When he wasn't a full time streamer his main excuse was "oh, koreans know all matchups because they can afford playing the game for 8+ hours a day". Now, It's been a couple of years since he plays Tekken 7 for a living and whenever he plays vs any female/evasive character he still cries because he doesn't know the matchup... I mean, how hard it is for him to ask someone during his stream to teach him how to defend vs certain characters? People would be happy to play vs him on stream. But I guess it's easier to just cherry pick your opponents and only play vs mishimas, bryans, armor kings etc. and then complain that T7 is impossible to learn because "too many characters and not enough time" excuse.
I know this video is old, but I remember playing this when it came out and immediately played as Lucky Chloe. Soon as I got the plat I stopped playing. If I had any ounce of patience for fighting games, I think I'd be a pretty annoying Chloe if I kept going 😂
Not to be the new guy in town or anything, but new to Tekken, and fighting games in general honestly. What does he mean by saying, "what is her backswing? Minus 14?" Emphasis on the minus. Is that referring to the initial back step and how many frames her character backs off, and I assume that's moveset and char specific as to how much "minus" exists? Great video by the way. Chloe's moveset and the animations drew me into the game along with friends playing fighting games constantly and me being trash! All
Third time watching this video in the span of a year. I picked her up after my friend picked her up after first starting. He'll only play her and Negan and it always perplexed me why he was so into this character. In my experiences the fun comes from watching how the other player dances w/ Chloe. Which is why I like this video. TMM 100% can't dance.
It's like those martial arts movies were the old and respected sensei gets his ass clapped by some thug dojo hunters and the young protagonist swears revenge to restore his master's honor.
Lol why is he constantly getting hit by the same counters? Or just stay on the floor, wait a little…. Tmm is so nervouse he can’t help but press buttons
A lot of the times I think I kind of killed myself by doing big broad moves and stuff, also I’m not really good at movement yet this might sound crazy but Close quarters is easier than moving around because I don’t know how far you are and when you are about to strike, so I guess that will be hard to explain, also my ground game is weak I don’t know how to get up or to move sometimes, what I mean by close quarters fighting is that I can read the flow of the fight and pick up on the players aggression or spamming, I guess it’s a gift or something
Idk, for me as former soul calibur player(every single entry before 6) this backswing blow looks like a very strong move, if not one of the best, utilizing it would feel natural. in soul calibur everybody has lots of range, so players pay much more attention to utility of moves like step back and and then attack, these moves are always very strong, always, no exception i am not sure, but to me, it looks like maybe the best launcher in the game, you dont even have to press block, you just attack, and in soul calibur pretty much every character has at least one move like that i wouldnt even be surprised if kaizur is a former soul calibur player, but i am surprised that tier list says chloe has no op moves
also, it feels like tekken players focus on anything but utilizing range to its full potential, like hitting at the very edge of the hitbox, because they have to be closer anyway to land a combo, so thats why maybe they dont care about these small step moves as much i looked into chloe gameplay more, i still believe its one of the best launchers in tekken
TMM say she's weak when compared to most of d cast. Which is true. Oppressive frames doesn't make u a strong character. If it did hwoarang would be the strongest character in d game
It was fun to actually get to play you MainMan! I would not be the player I am today if it wasn't for your videos, I hope we can play again offline in the future
Did your eyes hurt after the set?
Lowtier god lfg ur the goat
Hey, kaizur not sure if you know this but if you hold back after Chloe’s second summersault she’ll stay back turned, you’re lucky Chloe’s amazing btw
@@Darthlightskin he probably knows that as a TGO Chloe/Tournament level player. Just a guess
@@999LightBeam666 why do you say that
TMM: And the first round goes to MainMan!
Kaizur: So you have chosen death
lol
So funny!! Love Kaizur!
Heiachis been searching for the answer to finally kill kazuya when really all's he has to do was send the kawaii girl in against the demon.
the cat work for kazuya...tho...
Even after TMM closing the win screen you can still hear Chloes haunting words: Ha ha seeee youuu next timeee 😃👍🏻
Kaizur 8-0
Kaizur won 24 rounds, lost 10
Kaizur landed 13 backswing blows in the set
And didn't get launch punished for spamming the back swings
Attaboy
@Ashish Arora It honestly hard to punish with Kazuya. You try electric punishing things on block in an online game.
That instant running sweep execution is so hard to master...
Probably much easier if you've been doing the true iWR Shining Wizards, I reckon.
not really
@@UltimateBallaPOM hey shut up
@@thevirusza 🤣🤣🤣
At first.. but u get more consistent the more u practice and attempt it in fightd
I dont know if you have to respect the chloe dance but I definitely respect the Quake II OST always blasting in your videos
Best quake OST
Iwas literally going to ask what this music was thank you man
I just realized he played Quake 2 theme... Anyway, lets leave Tekken and play Quake... 😂😂😂
"Oh what a drop,,, 😳😮😳😮" 4:47
Upvoting this for the pure fact that I happened to read it right before main man said it. 😂
As someone who has no interest in Lucky Chloe whatsoever it's just really cool to see the oddball characters get picked and completely wash the more common ones.
I hate that for you 💖
I hate Chloe but I love her, I like the idea make a character for 'bitches'. Like no way are you meant to like this character with THIS gameplay.
Gameplay fun tho try her 🏴❤️😎
@@Guitar-Dog I hate that you feel that way .
Chloe is a character you have to wait and punish, you are not the one in charge when playing against this character. Annoying but what can you do
@@paradiseb5950 Feels like people who play more classic characters feel entitled to always dictate the pace of the match so they hate this lol
1 second into the match : “Back swing blow?”😂😂😂
That back swing launch is the best move introduced in tekken to me cuz of how dumb everyone feels eating it 🤣🤣
it's best attribute is psychological damage
@@Carsu12 yes that!! Lmao
2:13 Chloe: "One-two..." *gets one-two'ed*
Bro this Chloe is sick, I enjoy watching this😂
You can tell TMM was frustrated near the end. He was missing punishments and fell for several things that he has done well against before. Tough match to be honest. As he said, knowledge checks. GG to Kaizur and TMM.
tmm can't stop pressing and think for one second. he ate that back swing launcher so many times with the same setups
Dude plays the game since release for like 5-8 hours a day. There's no excuse for him not knowing the matchups in this game.
@@Shibu_PL Tekken coach btw
@@Shibu_PL This game has so many characters and each of them is really complex. Moreover, Lucky Chloe is just one of those rare characters you encounter once a year or so. TMM had no chance of knowing the matchup.
Same goes for top players, they don't know every single matchup in the game
@@Shibu_PL a world class tournament player fell for the same thing in December. What are you saying
That was awesome! Both of yall are beasts. But as a newb Chloe player here I gotta say, that was fun to watch.
harada looked at marie rose and was like "yeah i can make that wayyyy worse"
7:04 Damn never get out of your contract with Kazuya 0_o
(nice comeback by mainman, awesome slow mo finish)
Thank you TMM SWE. This was one of the funest matches that I have seen in a long time.
13:50 I might pick her up cuz that damage is ridiculous
100 dmg counterhit launcher :)
Big props to Kaizur. He put in the work and just has the talent for Tekken. Unfortunately I heard in one of his streams that he is going to focus more on building a successful stream instead of trying to become a pro Tekken. As he stated and someone else like Lil Majin has before, the financial reward is just not there to pursue being a Tekken pro. I hope that changes someday.
Way to keep your composure m8 because I woulda been pissed......
20:33 Look at this damage
She returned the same energy😘
It's always nice to watch amazing character loyalist
Except when they’re loyal to a character you don’t like
@@lt_johnmcclane it gets worse when that character ate your mains
I love your style with Kazuya, so awesome!
Damn he's good.
He has so much mastery with Lucky Chloe.
Kaizur's a real chill dude and he ultimately plays with the mentality that I can only describe as "...fuck it" it's why he's hit some of the most random backswing blows ever, he'll clip you outta no where with the weeb slide, he genuinely just loves playing the game and he just plays with the ultimate party mentality which, for LC, is perfect.
@@IndieSmack
His Backswings aren't random.
@@edlerkrieger8045 sometimes he just spams them, lets be honest, you have to be blind to not see it.
@@madln5070
Nope, he has downloaded your timing, he knows you'll press.
@@madln5070 he literally sits and labs the backswing blows. There is a video online that tells you every move in the game you can backswing blow.
Kaizur is a free spirit. You gotta not play how you normally do to win. It's almost a mixup after another mixup; if he thinks he can crush your highs or jumps over your low or if he's at a certain by the wall expect armor moves as well. If he's -4- -8, you have to always watch out for that backswing. I would recommend going into practice mode and pick lucky chloe and have your recorded computer be your main. Do your normal things on hit and see if Lucky Chloe can backswing blow it. I had to do this for Ling's Running 3 into AOP bc my AOP4 will get backswing blown, so i look for my other options that can kill that. I'm just a scrub that lives in his state; he terrorizes our locals all the time :P I also like to jump backwards at a certain range to deal with yeetsweep. The jump will go over the first and I will usually have time to land and block the 2nd one. It's tough, but you can't play your normal tekken against chloe is what I've concluded, playing Kaizur.
I laughed at the “he terrorizes our locals.” 😂😂😂
@@chucklos391 He's a good kid, plays CRAZY, but he's very fun and chill to be around!!! His playstyle is not something our grp is used to AT ALL, but it gets the job done. IF we lose to it, it's our own fault for not doing our homework.
Funny thing is his brother plays Rashid in SFV and plays the same way, all-out offense. Must be genetic!! 😂😂
@@jimmypikachuchoi Haha! I love it! I seen a few of his streams and I could tell he's a good kid. No doubt. I wish he kept pushing his progress, but he's mentioned in several of his streams that he would rather be a streamer than a tournament pro. I get it his reasons, but great tournament results help with exposure for streams. He's so young and already talented he could develop into a true world Tekken monster.
Great video! 👍
8:00 TMM calls it BS I call it big brain plays, he did the double flip and low crushed TMM mashing wakeup3 and that was Oki from his jump over at the wall
It's bs because No one else can do that m8 u don't get it
@@BlaqPharaoh bryan orbital would’ve clipped his wake-up 3
I don't think he meant it literally.
Lucky Chloe is Eddy on steroids! She is annoying but her damage output is ridiculous. I see why someone would want to use her. This was a fun match to watch.
really nice match. can see why kaizur has done so well on pro, high pace
I've never felt bad for someone like I have for MMSwe
U went happy 😊 for depress so quickly 🤣😂
Man ....he made you look like I was playing... And imo you are one of the best...still!
Yessssssss😀😍😍😍 Tmm Kazuya is back again😀
tmm can't stop pressing and think for one second
Even Arslan Ash gives some respect this Chloe. He is even playing as her.
The main man love your videos and your funny personality, but I need help with Chloe as well, I was wondering what is the use of the backswing I am in orange ranks as a totally blind fighter with Chloe and her mixups help me along the way
The 2nd set/game. Kaizur only did one dash I believe - a backdash, if you exclude him running up for oki. He barely move at all, he just uses buttons. It's like watching someone on initiate play.
It's effective
what arcade pad/controller du you use? rly need a good one
Wholesome
That backsway move is a crime against humanity. The fact you can be in a majorly advantageous position and then get launched by that move? That has to undermine a player's confidence something fierce having to face that. Credit to Kaizur though, his ability to read his opponents and his sense of risk vs reward is terrifyingly good.
Dragon punches work that way, you have to respect it.
That's what evasive moves do in fighting games. You can absolutely be +3, but you have to keep in mind your opponent's options: some characters have to respect you, others don't
This reminded me of when Vegeta fought Arale
🤣
If it helps I am wondering how people get up so fast after a screw attack, because sometimes I don’t expect them to get up so fast like that, I have a plan after knock down moves but they just come back so fast sometimes and it surprises me
The moment you notice that backswing is launch punishable and not 1 single punish for that
Means he isn't doing it to unga bunga and he was reading and predicting his opponent
No shitt sherlock. He's a pro after all. It's just the fact that you could barely react to it and it has a good range.
TMM mashes so u might as well spam d backswing blow
okay weeb profile pic, defend your waifu
"I wish I had more knowledge" what? hu u kiddin
and this is the guy who wanted one on one with knee.
Always gotta be patient against any Chloe tbh
true omega vs fake omega "i don't know the matchup" , can't use this excuse when you fall for the same trick 20 times
exactly, themainscrubswe is on the same level as ltg in that regard 😂
TMMS I really love your humility and posture- truetekkengolike --- nice match
That whole first round at 7:00 was great. Badass use of Devil's mid electrics. I love that MainMan never sleeps on Devil, he's underrated.
does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 6:27?
Is it a gamer thing to drink from mason jars? I do this. my gamer friends do this, and now I see it on a gamer video.
Love you mainman
I like Chloe, she is easy to confuse opponents with, in my experience. Win or lose she's just fun.
What it’s like to fight her, ling, lei and yoshi, but at least you see more Yoshi’s and Lei’s
I remember how salty K-wiss was after he lost against Kaizur lol.
He wasn't salty. He lost at something he wanted to win very badly and took a competitive L so he expressed a lack of happiness but "salty" is just side line, instigator, internet talk.
KWiss gave respect where it was due. Kaizur's throw break harassment, wr3+4, and back swing placement are all terrifyingly effective. Especially in a tournament setting.
He thought i was luck lol
Nah hes salty
K-wiss wasn't that salty. He had a few moments of salt, but overall felt like Kaizer played well and he had an off day. He handled it way better than most people do when they lose to a LC. He did say he could probably beat Arslan in the breakdown video though of him getting beat by Kaizer tho, so I gotta call BS when I see it.
You have to sweep the backswing and you need a solid whiff punisher
As a chloe enthusiast, albeit very new to tekken, the best advice for the matchup is to be aggressive. Chloe struggles extra hard when in disadvantage
Yeah this is what happens when you don't know the match up.
Man so many 3-2 matches. Just couldnt get that last pesky round. Wp
Kaizur TMT enjoyer, man of culture
Yolo lucky chloe 😂
hows the lag when playing eu vs us?
Dickjab to ws4 was such newbie things to do against competitive player.
Kaizur capitalized that so hard with backswing launcher everytime TMM did that.
the classic kaizur experience lmao
whats the music in the background
RIP Main Man 🪦
Big day for me it was,
first time watching TMM stream, and he replies to my comments twice,
Feel like I should frame this video or something
Although it was 8-0 for Kaizur, Tmm did very well I feel. A lot of matches were really close.
Well, TMM is fraud TGO :D cherrypicking to get it.
Agree. Moreover TMM is playing Kazuya, a character that relies on knowing the matchup, which he didn't. It would have been easier if he picked a character that goes unga bunga
How can TMM rate a character when he barely knows anything about them and how to deal with the character...
It just shows how he has no idea what he's talking about when It's with characters he doesn't play much or at all.
When he wasn't a full time streamer his main excuse was "oh, koreans know all matchups because they can afford playing the game for 8+ hours a day". Now, It's been a couple of years since he plays Tekken 7 for a living and whenever he plays vs any female/evasive character he still cries because he doesn't know the matchup...
I mean, how hard it is for him to ask someone during his stream to teach him how to defend vs certain characters? People would be happy to play vs him on stream. But I guess it's easier to just cherry pick your opponents and only play vs mishimas, bryans, armor kings etc. and then complain that T7 is impossible to learn because "too many characters and not enough time" excuse.
I know this video is old, but I remember playing this when it came out and immediately played as Lucky Chloe. Soon as I got the plat I stopped playing. If I had any ounce of patience for fighting games, I think I'd be a pretty annoying Chloe if I kept going 😂
Not to be the new guy in town or anything, but new to Tekken, and fighting games in general honestly. What does he mean by saying, "what is her backswing? Minus 14?" Emphasis on the minus. Is that referring to the initial back step and how many frames her character backs off, and I assume that's moveset and char specific as to how much "minus" exists?
Great video by the way. Chloe's moveset and the animations drew me into the game along with friends playing fighting games constantly and me being trash! All
I thought he was asking for block frames of that move. If you block it how minus is it. It's-16. You can launch chloe after blocking the swing.
Lucky chloe is fighting for a pay rise
he just got lucky lol
get em Kaizur!!!
Third time watching this video in the span of a year. I picked her up after my friend picked her up after first starting. He'll only play her and Negan and it always perplexed me why he was so into this character. In my experiences the fun comes from watching how the other player dances w/ Chloe. Which is why I like this video. TMM 100% can't dance.
That stupid K-pop idol throwing a grown man 10 meters into the air like a grown ass bear never gets old
It's like those martial arts movies were the old and respected sensei gets his ass clapped by some thug dojo hunters and the young protagonist swears revenge to restore his master's honor.
😂 help ain't it get help... broken ass Chloe
I love Kaizur
So this is what the real final stage of Ultra Hard is... 😂😂😂
Kaizur is legend ❤❤❤👑👑👑👑
Music ?
Me wants too
Kaizur you madlad iwr on 3-4 bar thats muscle memory
How does a stable 3-4 make it harder to iWR?
feels like kazuya lacks of hopkick
you had to F+3 to keep her away and make some parries
This is how the situation is when you face a champion 🏆 even with LC .
Talk about getting wrecked lol
Lol why is he constantly getting hit by the same counters? Or just stay on the floor, wait a little…. Tmm is so nervouse he can’t help but press buttons
13:55 BRUTAL🔪💀✨
@11:38 this move is -12 or -13 I have punished it with laws 3,4. Before and its a high.
It's -14.
Paul's b4 is a high, knee launcher and it punishes consistently
That 1hp win tho
i think mm got really angry about 7 minutes
Change my mind. Electrics are the coolest move in any fighting game period.
It’s an uppercut with a blue spark on it. Not that cool really
A lot of the times I think I kind of killed myself by doing big broad moves and stuff, also I’m not really good at movement yet this might sound crazy but Close quarters is easier than moving around because I don’t know how far you are and when you are about to strike, so I guess that will be hard to explain, also my ground game is weak I don’t know how to get up or to move sometimes, what I mean by close quarters fighting is that I can read the flow of the fight and pick up on the players aggression or spamming, I guess it’s a gift or something
It’s called mashing you just get lucky
Idk, for me as former soul calibur player(every single entry before 6) this backswing blow looks like a very strong move, if not one of the best, utilizing it would feel natural.
in soul calibur everybody has lots of range, so players pay much more attention to utility of moves like step back and and then attack, these moves are always very strong, always, no exception
i am not sure, but to me, it looks like maybe the best launcher in the game, you dont even have to press block, you just attack, and in soul calibur pretty much every character has at least one move like that
i wouldnt even be surprised if kaizur is a former soul calibur player, but i am surprised that tier list says chloe has no op moves
also, it feels like tekken players focus on anything but utilizing range to its full potential, like hitting at the very edge of the hitbox, because they have to be closer anyway to land a combo, so thats why maybe they dont care about these small step moves as much
i looked into chloe gameplay more, i still believe its one of the best launchers in tekken
7:16 this was craxzy
You keep saying she is weak yet she has very oppressive frames. Just play her and see why she's actually good
TMM say she's weak when compared to most of d cast. Which is true. Oppressive frames doesn't make u a strong character. If it did hwoarang would be the strongest character in d game
15:18 😂😂😂😂😂
Of course his Oshi is Towa