The Ultimate Audio Repair Tool? - BRAND NEW iZOTOPE RX 8!
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Today, we get to try out the brand new iZotope RX 8! We have been using the RX 7 since it came out, and are very excited to try out the new features they have added to the latest update! From Music Rebalance, to De-Hum, and De-Verb, there are tons of great features in this plugin.
One of the big upgrades in the RX 8, and one of the things I really wanted to try is the Music Rebalance. This gives you the ability to go in and separate elements out. You can separate out the vocals, the bass, the percussion, and more! This is a great learning tool, and would be great for learning a song! If you are a singer, for example, you can separate out all the elements and then mute the vocal so you can sing along with your favourite songs, and then you now have a soloed vocal as well, so you can learn all the parts!
Another new feature is the Guitar De-Noiser. This removes buzz and noise from bass and guitar parts. It is a really great feature for an acoustic or electric guitar part that had ultra purcussive elements in it from the pick hitting the strings, for example.
There are tons of other amazing features available in the RX 8, including De-Hum, De-Verb, and many more! If you are mastering anything, this is going to be an amazing tool. Think of the amount of work you could get just from people going back and giving you old cassettes, and mini discs, and old CDs, and all different kinds of recordings. The fact that you can take it and clean it up and then give it back to people is amazing. It makes me want to go back through all of my cassettes from when I was a kid and just clean them up!
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What would you use this plugin for?
I think it would work nice on drums and bass !
What is the best pedal noise gate to eliminate 60 cicle hum?
Well i use it to restore old live recordings from glass plates, old 2 track tapes (Telefunken M15) and newer but also already bad going DAT tapes. It is a great tool and i am using is since version 2 or so at my work but also having RX7 for my own work as a recording an mixing engineer to clean stuff up.
Hey Warren, great review. I'd use it to clean up old 4 track cassette / md stuff. It didn't bother me too much, the hiss and general crapness of the recording because I was only sketching out demo songs to work on later or take to a band. Some might actually be 'cleanable'. Ideally I'd try to do it track by track but synching might be tricky due to the "elastic" nature of tape and the inconsistencies in the player transport mechanism. Could probably make it more listenable for other ears. Thanks for the review.
Use it to clean up the Behringer Deepmind 12, because god knows it needs it.
There have been times when a piece of software appears to have found a way of messing with fabric of reality in a way that can only be descibed as the handiwork of the devil. I'll never forget the look of shock and amazement when my friend and I discovered how Melodyne could split an audio file of a chord sequence into it's component notes, albeit sometimes a little 'clunky'. Well, this is another one of those moments, with RX8. It may still be a bit 'clunky' in places, but it is still a work of wonder, and it too, messes with the fabric of reality in a way that I never thought would ever happen - wow! You know those thriller movies, where the forensics team uses some specialist dude his skills to pull the 'masking' from a piece of audio to get the hidden information within, and you're watching and think, 'bah! That's just imaginative sci-fi'. Well, it looks like it's here (gulp!)
Haha very well said! Yes, this is very impressive indeed! They really seem to have nailed this space!!
You can separate the drums and create your own midi drum track via some trigger Software or superior drummer tracking for your cover song (without having a real drummer). Then you have the exact groove to track your guitars or whatever.
That's an amazing idea
Exactly! Great tool for learning!
@@darlenesheffield9835 agreed 100%!
Anything you do in RX should be done in small and many steps to achieve best results. Run one module several times. Best tip I ever got.
I use it every single day. It's amazing.
That's amazing!
RX7 is soooo good. Looking forward to use 8 too.
Fantastic!!
Wow I would totally use this to isolate guitars sounds to use as a great comparison to my guitar sounds or isolate guitar solos to learn them!
Hi Kelly, exactly!
This is the stuff that 10-20 years ago was almost exclusive to the professional post production studios, but now, for a fairly reasonable price all things considered, it's in the hands of everyone. Amazing.
Agreed! You can build a business model around this technology!!
We use RX7 in my "day job" of audio forensics for law enforcement. The dialogue isolate function is tremendously helpful in pulling out voices from noisy background. Spectral noise removal is great also.
Thanks ever so much for sharing Sharon! Your job sounds very cool indeed!!
I still use Izotope Ozone equalizer to compare my mix, it's really a wonderful tool !
That's amazing to hear!!
Actually insane
Pretty crazy indeed!
Sir Warren, you've convinced me, in spite of the many dire critics of this version of the tool, it DOES work very well. Great job. Thank you...
Haha thanks ever so much Brian!! Glad to be able to help
I’ve been using RX7 advanced to clean up all of my tracks for all my sessions before I mix down and it’s amazing and worth every penny. The rebalance was decent but I’m looking forward to the improvements on RX8 it really seems even better than it was. :) I used to have to remove all of the squeaks etc by hand I’m very happy they added that algorithm :)
That's amazing to hear John! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
This is a miracle . i wonder if you will mix a old movie with these plugins. I would buy .
I'm pretty sure that will happen!!
This is actually a tool mostly used in film. Specially restoration. But yes its was primarily made for audio post production
@@gregrodrigueziii8075 yes, it’s used heavily by Mastering Engineers for restoring Audio and in Film and TV for removing excessive room tones etc
@@Producelikeapro What course are you familiar with that teaches truly in depth audio restoration/repair?I don't know where to look who's a legit teacher on this subject.
Super useful software, hope i get it in the future.
Only if the price drops down!
It's pretty darn amazing indeed!
Ozone 9 Elements had a sale on sweetwater where they were selling it for free, I’d recommend keeping tabs on that site
RX is near and dear to my heart. User since version 2!... Cheers my friend!
Working with film post audio now and then RX has made my life so much easier, maybe even given me more work since my clients were impressed with the results.
That's amazing to hear Martin! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
RX 8 rebalancer just saved me a ton of work today. Live recording - Female singer had a real low voice and sang next to the drum kit. Way too much bleeding to be even be usable. I was able to make the stem into a valid vocal, amazed!
That’s amazing
With track splitting, you could get any old mono recording of a band from the 1950s or 1960s and make it stereo, or treat every instrument individually. Could this lead to a 2021 remix of The Beatles catalogue?
Yes, there is massive potential in this plug in!!
Damn, the rx de-noise is the plugin I've been waiting for all my life!! Thanx Warren for representing it!!
Thanks ever so much Andrew!! Agreed! You Rock!
Really awesome plugin been using RX7 for a while gonna give a try to RX8 for sure! thank you so much Warren for such a great video!
Thanks ever so much Alexey!
The answer is... Yes! And you haven't addressed the new Spectral Recovery tool which is insane for people who edit podcasts like me! :D
Yes, that looks like an amazing feature!
it's pretty good, but hope they'll improve that algorithm a bit more
@@RichardToth75 yeah it either works like a charm or doesn't at all
Cool!
Thanks ever so much!!
I've used RX7 for healing tape drop-outs, and it works very effectively.
Needs piloting, so not automatic, but way better than any other tool I used for this.
Thanks ever so much for sharing Mickey!!
Been using RX since RX nothing. Besides Music Rebalance: The declip is almost as magical as the re-balance. Eliminated a lawnmower on an interview with Spectral De-noise (going to go back and try Music Rebalance). Nicely salvaged a clipped live vocal. Great on plosives though the automated tool still needs help in extreme cases. De-crackle and de-click can make a decent vinyl record sound like a CD which I like. Used de-bleed to correct some bad micing of a live event. And much much more.
Only downside is that RX 8 is my 7th upgrade to the standard version. Even though each upgrade is reasonably price they add up over 13 years.
Just an amazing tool I wish I had this 10 years ago!
I agree 100%!!!
Crazy
Yes! Th track separation tool is definitely CRAZY good!
I am working as an audio engineer and using this tool from version 2 to restore old classical recordings from the 50’s and on and all kinds of problems and it is getting better and better every version. Love the spectral denoise and the declick it helped me a lot to do a fine job. Lately i had to record a sort of theater thing with talking, music and interviews for a podcast, but it was also a theater kind of show with public and the theater had only cardioid headsets. And those are a hell for this talk kind of things because all things like hairs or a blouse that moves along the headset or part of the microphone cord creates noise cracks, pops etc. And the dialogue isolate of rx7 saved my butt there couple of times. And off course i could do it orherway with ither headsets, but it was a very tight budget and technicians from the theater so it was not possible but RX saved it. I love RX i tis expensive but worth it for me, however the new features are not for me and it seems the ones i use most often did not change so i think i will skip this one and see what 9 brings, at least for now... so for me i tis a tool that i use daily. Specially on classical music it has so much different dynamics that you have to be aware of artifacts and let is sound very clean it is so fragile but RX does do a fantastic job for years for me.
I remember I was skeptical about the videos, then I used this thing to clean up some click track bleed that I had been struggling with....I was shocked at how the track retained its sound and was able to remove the freaking click entirely. There is sorcery behind the algorithms in this thing.
That's amazing to hear Noe!! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Tanks:)
Note that the volume of your speech is sometimes a little bit higher than the computer sound.
Which made it hard to turn up the volume of my speakers to hear the small differences
Thanks again :) sorry for my English
Posilutely fantabulous! How great for recording in places where you can't control the noise like live venues!
Since Sound Forge went a bit rubbish (coincidentally around the time Sony sold it to Magix!) I've switched to RX 7 Standard for destructive wave editing. The tools for fixing vocals work equally well on spoken voice for video narration. It's incredible value for money, particularly if you get it when it's on sale. The Music Rebalance is machine learning-powered black magic and a lot of fun for picking apart tracks you love.
Thanks ever so much for sharing your experiences with us Sunita!! I really appreciate it
I’ve been using RX7 extensively for dialogue editing. It is pretty incredible. Like Photoshop for sound, really. Look forward upgrading to this new version.
I have RX 7 and I have used it to remove unwanted stuff, looks like 8 takes it to another level. Might just have to upgrade.
Yes, very impressive indeed!!
Wow. On that first track, "other" managed to pull out the rhythm guitar part. The second guitar part lost a touch of high end with the de-noise, but not tragically. Almost like de-essing a vocal. As someone who deals mostly with commercial radio and vocal production, cleaning speech is really good, quite natural.
Preservation and restoration of archival audio, especially speech, is important. There are entire libraries of irreplaceable material that could and should be restored from ancient analog sources and digitized, as we learned from the UMG fire that destroyed so many priceless music master tapes. These tools are a major step in keeping history intact. I'd love to hear what it would do with the audio from the Apollo 11 moon landing or the recordings of the radio broadcasts of D-Day, for example.
Love iZotope Products, always top quality ! RX7 already fascinated me but RX8 - OMG 🤘Thx for this great review !
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
This shnizzle blew my mizzle! :) Insanely good software!
nice
Thanks ever so much!
Warren, have you tried Steinberg Spectralayers Pro 7? They've introduced exactly the same feature. I bought it for £256 recently because I'm mixing a 2 CD live album. It really helps to control spill on vocals and other tracks. It gives very similar results to RX8. I'm guessing the AI inference technology has probably been developed in combination behind the scenes. It really is game changing!
Oh, and with Spectralayers, you can go EVEN DEEPER! You can split each extracted stem into "Transients", "Tonal" and "Noise" elements. This allows you to rebalance each stem if you want. So, if the drum kit sounds a bit swooshy, you can reduce the noise element and perhaps increase the transient part. You can extract each track and import into your DAW and apply insert effects to each stem/element. It's so powerful. I'll have to make a video showing it in action.
I used Spectralayers while it was owned by Sony and before I used RX. It was good when used properly; but was extremley dangerous when not. I stopped using it when it was sold to Magix and since Steinberg have purchased it, it was improved slightly. However it is not as focused as RX8 Advanced and also appears to havesome of it's more advanced features removed.
The only advantage I feel Spectralayers has over RX is it's ability to copy things to layers and seperate them. This way you can copy what you've removed and take back anything you might have over done. And again to seperate. However RX8 can work on full surround recordings, enabling you to work on each seperately, rather than having to first seperate them without using layers. Outside of layers Spectralayers falls far short of what RX8 can do when it comes to audio restoration. It is rather like using a sledge hammer instead of a fine needle. It greats far more artifacts than RX which are far more audible.
It is a great tool, but RX8 is a fantastic tool and has ne advancements added in each release. Whereas Spectrallayers has hardly advanced since version 3. It has actually taken a step back, having had tools either removed or handicapped. But that could have been deliberate in order to make it an easier task to restore audio, rather than blitx everything on the same audio frequencey. It did help me start out and enable me to have a far greater understanding of how to use RX when I made the move. I have no regreats and wouldn't go back now.
This is genuine Sorcery.. Although not perfect currently, it won't be long before it is. There are so many amazing advances now, it's hard to keep up!
Oh man, I have had two previous versions and rarely use them but this makes me think I better get the update…just in case! ;-)
Agreed 100%!!
I would love this just to clean up my acoustic tone alone. Gonna have to save up some cash... again. lol
Great stuff Bobby!
Hi Warren, wow another great product from Izotope, loved the de reverb, especially when you solo'd the bands, i would probably use that to create some psychedelic effects for an intro or bridge section, but all in all a great tool to save lots of time, thanks for the review, all the best.
So can we expect a new line of "Music minus One" albums to be released for the learning musician? Hard not to skip those LP's when you were a drummer in a house beside a turntable trying to learn the Samba on the old Silver Tone Blue sparkle kit. I can still smell that kit when I unboxed it at 12 years old, mostly the glue smell really. I never thought we would be recording at home with this kind of equipment then, 4 tracks used 1" tape and weren't cheap. Izotope have never let me down yet, this can open up small home studios to a new income repairing music, like those jam tapes you and your friends made in the '70s. That's impressive.
Yes, indeed! This tool is going to create an amazing opportunities! Thanks for sharing your experiences with us!
Really cool plugin
HI Michael, yes, agreed!
I was pretty blown away by the Master Rebalance section on Ozone 9 but this... this is witchcraft. Please, fellow bedroom producers, just don't use this for second guessing your mixing choices in mastering stage. At the very least let someone else do that second guessing. 😅
It seems to be so amazing Jesse
Agreed Jesse! I will be using this plug in a lot!
@@darlenesheffield9835 agreed 100%!!
Warren can you do a de-reverb on a snare ?
If you mean methods for removing Reverb from something like a Snare, Warren already did that here.. czcams.com/video/KxDuqqN21vo/video.html
There are many ways to do what you're asking but the link above is pretty much exactly what you're requesting.
Yes, you can Andre!!
RX is magic :O
Do you have any plans for another mix contest in the near future, Warren? : ) I've loved the ones you've done so far.
I use something like it in acid
Wow wow wow this is crazy!!!
Yes, amazing!!
I briefly managed the keyboards department in a guitar center 14 years ago. The amount of people who asked for a software which would isolate the vocal track versus the drums was staggering.. and GC employees would laugh and say its not possible. Now isotope is laughing. It may not be "perfect" but it is unbelievable. People throw out the "mind blown" term too casually.. but it blew my mind. Ill buy it just to isolate drum grooves for inspiration (obviously the days of sampling for a record at any type of affordable rate are gone)
🤘😜🤘
Marvellous!
Izotope is king 👑!!!!
Amazing!! So good!
Voodoo
Haha agreed! Crazy good!!
As they say, 'practical magic'. The de-noising and squeak removal are damned amazing. One thing though, in a lot of my mixes, the odd squeak is far less noticeable and also makes me sound "human". I like remaining on the human side of things. I am all for removing non-musical artifacts like AC hum though.
Fantastic! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
I have decades old four track tapes, some professional done in studios and most recorded at home. I have them all converted to digital format and have tweaked them a bit with EQ but they are still lacking. Based on this video it appears that this plugin would allow me to separate the key components of these old recordings and then clean them up. What do you think?
Wow awesome 👍
Thanks ever so much Hitesh!
@@Producelikeapro welcome Sir 🙏💐
Damn. Need that. And then time to play some records and learn some stuff.
i abhore vocal tracks but this one felt really good
This would be a great tool for DJs. When they wanna mix two songs together and want just the bass line or drums against another beat matched song. I actually think there’s a brand new DJ app that does this very well. Wonder if it’s using the same technology?
Hi Warren, I’ve heard about RX8 previously, but you’ve just sold this to me! Haha, excellent tool in deed! Getting it today! 😊 I take it it’s the advanced edition not the standard one you’ve tested didn’t you? Many thnx
Wow!
Yes, amazing!
Is the rebalancing section only in the advanced version? And if it's in other versions example elements/standard then is it less intuitive/less controls? thanks and marvelous demonstration as ever 🤘🏽
Thanks for the marvellous comment! I only tried the full version so I could pick and choose what I wanted to try, so I'm not sure if Rebalance comes in the other versions?
What does Rick Beato use?
I kind of almost can't believe this and it just keeps making me laugh. 😂 Did you tell Rick Beato about this? 🤣 😆
I wonder if there is a certain x-factor that can be diminished in rock tracks by using this. We love Neve ore's and SSL compressors for very subtle reasons. On my last record, I would go through and, albeit in a reasonably calculated / subtle way - using "learn" etc.. I would de-noise all guitar and bass tracks. I did a lot with a Strat and my Vox AC-15 (noisey). I wonder if i was raking some x-factor or grit away. perhaps not. Oh and i just noticed your next video .... on my way there!
TBC I am a professional podcast mixer and RX has completely changed my career.
Hi Merritt, thanks for the comment! Yes, like anything tools when overused can diminish the overall effect! However, used sparingly this is quite amazing!
@@merrittjacob5454 thanks for sharing your experience!
Why would you remove the squeak ? that's the best part.
I would use it on my guitar to clean it up a bit. Also sometimes it's hard to find backing tracks with vocals and no guitar, I wonder if I could remove the guitar with this so I just hear mine.
Look like oversampling technique?
HI there! Amazing plugin indeed but so is the song, love it!! Its got THE groove! What is the name of the band? Thank you Warren!
Aw shucks! Glad you like the song! It's Little Empire 'Shoot You Down' which we did as a course with Bob Horn!
@Frank Lee that is correct!!
hey ..what pro tools version are you using ?
Hi Armin, it's the version I believe!
How do you get rid of the artifacts left over after removing a vocal or music using rebalance?
The stand alone version rather than the plugin is much preferred.
It's just straight witchcraft, wow
Haha yes, indeed Nathan!
Hey Warren, will you do a review of Hitnmix RipX? It seems something new and beats out all the other...what you think...?
What song is that sounds cool 👌
It's a song by Little Empire! 'Shoot You Down'. We did a course with Bob Horn using the song:- promixacademy.com/course/anatomy-of-a-mix-with-bob-horn-warren-huart/
I thought people liked keeping the squeaks in?
Sometimes I get remote podcast contributors who’s recording sounds like a bag of arseholes. I can’t do anything about their capture. I just spend a lot of time on EQ and compression etc to get someone acceptable. Could this help me?
Yes, yes and yes! Haha If you look below a lot of people are talking about how this helps them tremendously!
Produce Like A Pro thanks
@@JDODify you're very welcome!
Is this song on spotify?
My AMD Ryzen 7 3700x can handle this easily, but I'm not sure my wallet can... Thanks for the preview anyway, Warren, awesome plugin tool it is.
Is this plugin compatible with Reason?
There are three versions of this. Which one did you use? I just need to cancel hum on my old amp and mic's - Which version should I buy?
Hi Karsten, this was the full version. You can use it as a stand alone or individual elements.
@@Producelikeapro Damn, I hoped these features was in the small package :o)
@@soulmine1970 you should check what features you'd need then choose the best one for your needs
@@Producelikeapro Only need the hum cancellation as I'm putting a mic in front of my old amps. Was just informed that Wifi can interfere and add noise and I am living on the main street with busses (Wifi on wheels) driving by all the time :o/ Never considered that to be an issue, but then again, I am a guitarist not an engineer :o)
For some reason this do not happen when I plug into my 6176, but I really enjoy the sound of my old amps. I only use the 6176 for bass and vocal and I do not like tracking going into my UAD Apollo directly, which also seems to be sensitive to outside signals.
I already use a de-noise, but it rolls off some of the highs.
@@soulmine1970 thanks ever so much for sharing your experiences! Yes, it sounds like you may have some grounding issues with your amps in your room!
Incredible! This new generation of software is using our computing power in fantastically innovative ways rather than just emulating old hardware. Stuff like RX8, soothe, gullfoss, Sonible plugins, are already amazing, it's hard to imagine what we will have 10 years from now.
What is the best pedal noise gate to eliminate 60 cicle hum?
What is this sorcery?
Yes, pretty darn impressive to say the least!
I've used RX7 to remove noise from acoustic guitar tracks with the vocal tools. It actually does pretty well. I would like the extra features of RX8, but the upgrade is more expensive than the difference is worth, at least right now. I'm sure they will discount it (hopefully soon for RX7 and/or bundle owners). The intro price to upgrade from 7 to 8 is almost insulting.
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ANNNND I WANT IT!...*Looks up price!* Nevermind...
Hi Axl, I agree with Frankl! You can build a business doing restoration around this!!
@Frank Lee yes, indeed! Doing tape transfers etc would be fantastic!
Produce Like A Pro I totally would love to do that, just wouldn’t even know where to start or anything like that. Working 46-50hrs a week since the start of this pandemic as a Essential worker it’s been awhile since I’ve been able to focus on music of any sort sadly.
Mostly, i say Mostly It's like puting the heartbeat away from a human body. You need a pick to hit the strings, it's the soul of playing. Imagine putting the picksound away from the intro Wish You Where Here by Pink Floyd....got it?...
Im wondering how they ended up with such noisy guitar take anyhow ?
Wow
Yes! Haha!
Don't take the sqeak out! Imagine Dust in the Wind w no finger slidey sqeakage! Lol, totally understand tho, amazing product!
I'd probably only partially remove squeaks from acoustic stuff because it can be super abrasive.
Haha it depends! Sometimes the squeak is cool, many times is horrific and is ear piercing! haha
@@randychurchill9426 exactly! Agreed 100%!!
so can we get RX for 50 bucks with the academy discounts now ? ahah
If anyone is interested on the track-splitting thing and doesn't have the cash there is a couple of AIs that do the exact same thing for free. Just have to google it and try it! I'm betting the iZotope one is a little bit better, but... it's worth a shot!
Hi Bani, what free ones are you suggesting? How have they worked for you? What kind of results have you got? I personally haven't had any success before this.
Spleeter does this. Dylan Tallchief has some videos about it.
@@razhmazh thank you! I'll google it!
@@razhmazh I would love a spleeter comparison
@@bboymac84 To be honest, I haven't tested Spleeter myself, because the last time I heard about it was when I upgraded to RX7 Standard. (At the time, Spleeter was a python-script. Now it has a GUI)
Spleeter does the job quite similar to 7, from what I heard. It's good enough to get decent a cappellas, or make a karaoke version of a song.
It is free, so if you want to, go test it! Dylan Tallchief has videos how to operate it. He also made a DAW in Excel, so he knows his way around. 😁
Please don't remove guitar squeaks.
Remarkable! We're entering a new age of bootlegs
Agreed 100%!!
This is witchcraft.
Haha yes, indeed Randy!
Filter out the beef in mom’s stew.
Thats a terrible recorded song or singer dunno .
still sounds like crap