Meet Officer Mader: Fired For Trying To Do The Right Thing
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Early in the morning of May 6, 2016, Weirton Police Officer Stephen Mader responded to a domestic dispute call. When he arrived on the scene, he encountered R.J. Williams, a young African American man. When Officer Mader asked Mr. Williams to show his hands, Mr. Williams revealed that he was holding a gun. As Mr. Williams began waiving his gun around, Officer Mader ordered him to drop his weapon. Mr. Williams ignored Officer Mader’s demand and repeatedly responded, “Just shoot me.”
Officer Mader did not “just shoot” R.J. Williams. He analyzed the full situation. He did not just view Mr. Williams as an African American man. He didn’t even view him solely as a man with a gun. And given Mr. Williams’ anguished demeanor, his failure to aim his gun or focus any sort of aggression on others, and his plea to be shot, Officer Mader concluded that Mr. Williams was not a threat. He was attempting to commit suicide by cop.
In this tense moment, Officer Mader did exactly what we want our police officers to do. He calmed his voice and attempted to deescalate the situation. He attempted to save R.J. Williams’ life. Officer Mader looked Mr. Williams in the eye and said, “I’m not going to shoot you brother.”
In the meantime, Mr. Williams’ former girlfriend called 911 and reported that Mr. Williams had an unloaded gun and was suicidal. The 911 dispatcher relayed only that Mr. Williams had a gun. While Officer Mader was attempting to deescalate, two other officers arrived on the scene. At that point, Mr. Williams began to raise his gun. One of the newly-arrived officers shot and killed Mr. Williams.
When the officers approached Mr. Williams, they discovered that his gun was unloaded. Officer Mader’s deduction had turned out to be correct-R.J. Williams had not been a danger to anyone other than himself.
A young African American man was tragically killed by law enforcement officers. A father, a brother, a son is dead. And we, as a society, have failed him like we have so many others. Sadly, this is a story that we have heard far too often in this country. But what makes this story different is that a few weeks after Mr. Williams’ death, the Weirton Police Department fired Officer Mader for not shooting and killing R.J. Williams.
A police officer is not constitutionally entitled to use deadly force unless he or she reasonably believes the target poses an immediate threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. Officer Mader had determined just the opposite, that R.J. Williams was no threat to the safety of others. As such, Officer Mader was not constitutionally permitted to shoot Mr. Williams. Essentially, Officer Mader was fired for respecting R.J. Williams’ constitutional rights by not using deadly force.
Firing Stephen Mader for not killing R.J. Williams sends a chilling message to every law enforcement officer on the Weirton police force and across the country; they are to err on the side of killing citizens. And what message does firing Stephen Mader send to the community at large? What value does it assign to the life of R.J. Williams?
Today, along with the Law Office of Timothy P. O’Brien, we filed a lawsuit on behalf of Stephen Mader in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of West Virginia against the City of Weirton. We simply cannot believe that our state’s public policy could permit a police officer to be terminated for not killing someone he reasonably concluded was no threat. After Mr. Mader spoke to the media about his termination, the City then engaged in a pattern of retaliation designed to destroy his reputation. Our lawsuit argues that in terminating Mr. Mader and its actions thereafter, the City violated his rights under the United States and West Virginia Constitutions.
We believe this lawsuit highlights the need for reforms at so many police departments around the state. We will continue to advocate for increased de-escalation training, implicit bias training and suicide prevention training for WV law enforcement officers. We will redouble our efforts to increase police transparency and improve community responsiveness and oversight of law enforcement activities.
We will not forget the tragic death of R.J. Williams. We must attempt to honor his legacy by fixing a broken culture in policing.
It continues to be clear: Police should not be the first responders to mental health crises. Watch this video on police violence with deputy legal director Jeff Robinson:
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Sending an unarmed civilian to deal with a man with a gun is a bad idea. Smdh this cop did the right thing. We need this cat to train other cops. His military background and training saved that kids life and kept him safe.
@@Nick-jn2fq How come our military is capable of non engagement with combatants but we can not train our cops to deal with civilians? Stop licking boots for the sake of it and start to join the solution with real thought
PLEASE, be all means, send someone else first. Can we have an agreement that they won't just call us when the subject of the call is scary? I can't see how sending unarmed social workers to a suicidal person call can possibly go bad.
written by a moron who has never attended a violent call.
Update: Stephen Mader won the case and was awarded $175,000 for wrongful termination. He will not be refused employment as a police officer in any other department.
Thank you for this update!! So glad to hear this news!!
Nice!
@@sunggyuhyung Great to hear, this man is a hero for trying to save a life. Hope another PD hires him.
I’m so happy for him.
@That's The guy GLAD TO HEAR THANKS!
Literally is willing to put his life on the line to try to save another man's life and they fire him..
joshua pranzetti because the suspect was waving a gun around, putt other officers and any innocents around in danger, I don’t think th officer should have been fired but still
Issac Bueno there was context to the call, when dispatch relays a call they give an in depth description of the situation, what the cop sall was a man being ordered to drop his weapon and failed to comply, sense he was non compliantly was shot, yes he was suicidal but there was no way they could of known what that man would have done with the gun
There are many other ways to de_escalate the situation. If non works y kill the man there is always a choice to shoot the person on the leg/shoulder/ armed hand ...
But that's not preferred , And There lies the problem. One need to understand the difference between "needing" and "wanting". Here the dept. "Wants" the cops to shoot down the armed man Rather than "disarming" . Guns can be used not just for killing it can be used for intimidation if that doesn't work it can be used for hurting, disarming .killing should always be the last "choice". And by the looks of it there were many other and they chose to kill him .
If any are saying killing was only option because he was armed and waving the gun(not pointing). I say sry for u
A cop should away access the situation first before taking action .the first cop at the scene did exactly that but the others took the different choice . In Most case there are few types of cop behavior
1. thrive to live in the excitement and would shoot or use force rather than trying make peaceful solution.
2. Those who get frantic and rash use of Force at the first suspicion of trouble saying they were scared for their life(that's cowardliness not bravery ).
3. There are few who doesn't know shit they are doing and when one of them shoots a suspect to disarm him/ her , and they shoot along with their partners after hearing the first shot it's like competition who hits the target first .
4.then there are those who are like this officer trying to take the right decision and actions. And use force only when necessary if no other choice.that too to in an "appropriate manner".
A cop should know not just to shoot.but to shoot "when, Where (body parts....)and how(coordinated)" but first of all if he should use force or not.Using force is not always "necessary ".
" Presence of mind" is what most needed.
If any are saying they had to shoot because the suspect had a weapon and there is a "probability" that the cops life is in danger. U R WRONG
risking their life is part of job description.- I'm not saying so the cops have to die but what I'm saying is "no one has to".
If cops with above first 3 behaviors are allowed to continue things are only gonna get worse.
Vivek Dwaraka shoring to disarm is not smart, people can take many rounds before they go down let alone drop there weapon, when sombody is waving and pointing a gun at you you can’t shoot to disarm, you shoot to kill
Issac Bueno I just read your reply before that and I am also confused, so basically we agree
This is disgusting that he got fired for trying to help.
Scraprowr nicholas my indian mother grew up in Weirton in the 70s and 80s and it’s sad to see how bad the town has gotten so regarding services
@@stephenpaea177 those damn homophobic people
It’s cool he sued for 175k and will not be refused at any other department for employment
More disgusting is that he is still alive!
"Trying to help" is correct thing but whom is more important, you don't help the man who is probably gonna shoot you or other peoples around in just minutes, I think he was not helping but Digging his own Grave!
"Fired for not shooting." I see what you did there...
Harvey Specter did that ..... trigger you 🤔😂
@@Sda-vh1or Are you taking a shot at me?
Harvey Specter I will suppress you 😎
i will see you at school 😎
WhySoSerious EASTREP is your jokes aimed at younger audience ? 😎
He is a great police officer,we need more cops like him .
Zahir S we have cops like him everywhere.
Finn The Goldfish yes we do. m.czcams.com/video/P2jekvQ76mw/video.html
Finn The Goldfish yes really. the media only wants to show you the bad ones. their is bad in everything good
well he was a US Marine.
@Finn The Goldfish well? this video here is proof. 2nd if u check on youtube there are plenty of good cops lol
His Sergeant was probably pissed off that the officer had more training then he did
More honor than the Sergeant at least.
Yes dude that why I think he deserves to be in training department.. 😄😁
Cop in Tennessee said buying a bullet is cheaper than having an officer trained and since most of our boys come from farms they can kill anything with one shot.
His sergeant was pissed off he didn't shot another black man for no reason!! That's the main reason get me!!
pissed off and jealous cuz there is someone more knowledgeable of the law than that sergeant is
They got rid of him because he showed all the others up.
FACTS
Yea facts! How to risk getting yourself, the woman and child you were called to protect killed 101
That’s not really a juicy title though.
he should be training them
barry nicholas exactly what I thought. The others would’ve shot. Some would’ve cried. Few would’ve ran away. He stood and solved it. That shows leadership... the others hate that... 😁
He’s useless. When a suspect starts waving the gun around like he said in the video, it’s time to shoot, not make assumptions.
This is a guy who should get millions from his department, and deserves it too
www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/02/12/an-officer-who-was-fired-after-refusing-to-shoot-an-armed-man-just-won-175000-in-a-settlement/
FACTS
Jonathan wali I agree!!!!
Millions of tax payers dollars
@@chrissomeone2642 yeah well its none of ur tax money. Broke ass bitch
This guy is a hero. Our country would be so so so so SO much better if we had more officers like him
Are you telling me that American Marines are trained more in de-escalating situations than American police officers. Yikes..
Edit: these replies are fucking weird. First of all Not everyone is American!!!!! Second ok yes lot of cops mostly don't have to deal with high stress situations but it can still happen! Don't you think a cop should have some level of training for if they get involved in a bad situation?? Saying "they will get someone else who is trained in de escalating situations" ok how are you going to do that! Ask the pretental gunman/ panicking drug addict/ suicidal person to wait for a different cop to show up?!!
Seriously guys, just think.
Edit 2: and saying yikes isn't cringy.
Cops usually don’t have to do this that much, and if it’s ever a barricaded suspect or hostages they usually call someone who is a pro at de-escalating
@@Thomas-of6xm I don't know man, in my city I've seen cops help calm down drunks and ice addicts who are freaking out before arresting / drawing weapons on them.
Benjamin there is a decent amount I’ve seen cops help people who are suicidal etc. But it is usually not there strength.
Think about it this way. Around 40 million people got some sort of fine for speeding alone, which requires an officer to give a ticket, but not too much else. In contrast, around 6 million people get arrested for some sort of violent crime, which are cases in which de-escalation skills would be useful. That's about a 15% chance of needing those skills, give a bit due to other things like preventing someone from committing suicide for example. Compare that to marines, who are constantly in warzones where they have to calm people who got stuck in the middle of well, a war.
@Kamil S Did I ever say that? No. I am just giving these fools a base to argue around. For all I care don't train them at all and shoot everyone. However, these idiots aren't really arguing on any logic to begin with, so I'm just giving them some.
Imagine putting your life on risk for the government and all they do is get rid of you. Excellent
You didn't pay attention did you the man was waving his gun around when other officers arrived so they thought they were going to be shot and they shot back officer Mader never said to dispatch "I have it under control dont shoot" that's probably what caused him to get fired and for the man to be shot
@@chrisprizzle278 nahh if you read the article he got fired because they said he "froze" and didn't shoot. Feeling he couldn't handle the job emotionally they fired him
Officers don’t put there life on the line for the government they do it to protect the people that they serve
chris Prizzle nah, they used Officer Mader as a scapegoat to covert themselves. In the report it shows that the woman who called dispatch notified them that he wanted to kill himself and when he found out officers were coming he got a gun that was NOT loaded and had the intent of officers killing him. Mader’s military training helped him grasp the situation until the other idiot cops came blazing into a situation without all the information.
www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/02/12/an-officer-who-was-fired-after-refusing-to-shoot-an-armed-man-just-won-175000-in-a-settlement/
chris Prizzle well he won his case.
So he was fired for not shooting someone
Classic America
Pig in a Blanket are you being sarcastic
Pig in a Blanket but it wasn’t even loaded
Pig in a Blanket In England someone had a big knife 🔪 and they didn’t shoot him they did the exact same thing that the officer did and there was people around
Pig in a Blanket they could of asked him if it was loaded
Pig in a Blanket and plus there was probably no one around
WTF is this?! As soon as I learned that there is one good cop in the world, I also learned that he is no longer a cop.
Sue their ass.
Archie Hung good cops don’t exist. They’re fired for doing the right thing. One cop elsewhere was fired for charging his chief and mayor for forgery. He literally walked in as a cop, to serve papers, and was fired.
Some one get a GO FUND ME account going for this guy, I'll pitch in.
99℅ of the cops make the rest look bad.
there was also a cop here in australia who was fired for doing the right thing, he and some of his fellow officers were out patrolling one night and one of the officers said something along the lines of "i wonder who we'll get to beat up tonight?", which the good officer found really disturbing. they came upon a drunk man and police brutality from the bad officers ensued. the good officer noted the incident in his report, and was fired afterward.
Archie Hung - yes because the U.S. is focused on lying, abusing and shooting! there is no place for normal (especially professional) behavior!
@@PurpleObscuration Sorry, but there ARE no good cops. I Challenge anyone to refute the following facts and logic.
medium.com/@petrostsimigatos98981989/all-cops-are-bad-people-by-dr-robert-higgs-a0a42ca8deee
Escalating is easy. De-escalating takes skills and intelligence. Obviously he was too intelligent to be a cop.
Correct most cops are followers to the demon they serve a cop has now become the enemy of our community and no leader is willing to listen and act so what the outcome will end up becoming is lots of cops being hurt which will in turn bring on a communist agenda that the demons in gov really want.total control of freedom is the agenda and it's happening as we speak.
The police department in my small town is cool and has some real nice cops, this ugly department is another thing.
@Paper Eazy Man you are unbelievable. An absolute cretin. If he said woman would that be sexist by your standards. If he said white woman would that be racist and sexist, no? If you said black woman by heck you do your fruit shouting! He is simply setting the scene, why is that so hard to understand? You're just stupid? Is that it?
@Paper Eazy because he was trying to get people to understand the situation if he would have said white man a lot of people wouldn't have given a fuck and that is where the true racists come in
Paper Eazy because ge tried to save a black man he was fired
People like him needs to be a police chief. Running the whole department
Facts! Weed out the gangsters and the incognito one's will then level up! They only get away with their corruption because officer's chain of command are in position to make decisions to cover-up brutalities, deaths etc. The most trusted profession in my opinion are firefighters! Do you really think during an emergency response and their like," Nah I ain't helping them or going up in there because they're orange, purple, maroon, black, spanish, white, muslims, hell fucking no!Firefighters save lives, straight like that! Officer's took an oath to: Serve and Protect the community and obey the law they' damn selves too. Now they pull people over and wanna block and obstruct traffic.. Park in parks, sidewalks where people walk through.... They wanna give someone a summons for turnstyle jumping when someone is shooting heroin, smoking crack or K2 literally nearby! About a month ago in NYC, I was shocked witnessing a heavy set guy smoking crack out of a freaking soda can next to people who were in close proximity... I'm like wtf! No bullshit, 2 cops just so happened to walk by and noticed the guy.... Kid you not, they told him basically," wtf man" train pulls up and they let him board the train smh
Let that would've been me smoking a practically NYC half legal joint? Yeah they would've ticketed me. They don't wanna deal with the homeless, drug attics, the paperwork, for what? Same guy they take to the hospital for tweaking out on drugs, comes right back out and do the same drugs that hospitalized them. It's a genocidal drug too. The Cops know what I'm talking obout. Salute to the scarce few who are professionals, straight like that! 🙏
@@JohnDoe-ru1md Sooo who's going to read all of that?
@@Sraxton It sure got your attention! And thank you for making me feel picked out, good job! 💪
No kidding. The officer who tackled an eleven year old girl got fired for not engaging in "de-escalation" practices, yet this officer was fired for practicing them. Hypocrisy at it's finest
What you are missing is that he failed to follow protocol and in doing so, endangered other officers and members of the public.
@@stevewalsh5956 I understand your point. My point is this Officer would have been damned if he did and was damned when he didn't. He had a moment of humane weakness and now he is fired. If he would have shot a man who is empty handed with his back turned, then he might have got a paid week off.
Steve Walsh Officer Mader was overqualified to be a cop considering his background.
Why the quotation marks? The criminal whose reaction to an eleven year old girl was to physically attack her was a moron and he did not descalate the situation. This man tried to and he was fired, the dispatch clearly didn't transmit all the details, thus failing their principal job, the other cops were less trained and capable, nothing makes tackling a girl and over "taking too many milks" the correct course of action.
@@nicolegomez_144
Putting his own life in danger is both humane and brave but he didn't have the right to endanger his colleagues or the public.
We need more cops like him. He brings honor and respect to policing
Yea why blast a guy to death if he "appears to be self-suicide" by cop? That cop could have shot the guy and it would have been justified according to the cops testimony! But he's obviously not the kind of cop who gets the kick out of doing that... And knowing that his department would have most likely covered for him if it was unjustified had he shot the guy.... For that cop, yea it was chancy! But not trigger happy, big difference!
Unfortunately the police today have a shoot first ask questions later mentality. This is a trading problem. They've been taught they can do anything they want and the police union, the DA, and the judge will back them up. It's the good cops that pay the price for the othe overzealous insane people hating cops.
Put my life in someone else's hands on the idea of awe he's probably suicidal . Um no thank you. 50/50 chance this guy may shoot you. Plenty of other cases and videos in which individuals tell the officer to shoot them. One case the officer did not and paid the price with his life. In my opinion the officer put other responding officers life in danger.
He passed the test given to him from "Heaven."
So, very proud of this officer. May his deeds be counted as "Righteousness" of The Saints.
Most of them are... You just don’t hear about them. You do 1 good thing nobody hears it, you do 1 bad thing and you’re in the news cycle for a week...
Respect for this officer. If only more cops were like him.
Ok.This man is not a pig. He's a veteran, a brother, a human being.
Damn can’t even do your job right without being fired.
@Jumping Jehosafat Lay off him, you dont know what YOU are talking about, we white people often indicate race when its not relevant, almost unconsciously
So if the cop that fired was a veteran, hes a pig? Not a brother or a human being? Go fuck yourself you closeminded jackass
@@TJ-di1iq if your that motivated and cant figure it out for yourself, join the crowd of your fellow ignorant commenters
Facts! Real recognize real and I like how calm, professional and prudent he was!👍🍾🙏
Beat up or kill a person, no problem. Try to help someone , get fired. Makes sense?
Kathleen Tate - it makes total sense in the corrupt U.S. government!
You got it all wrong. It's more like, beat up or kill a person, get a PROMOTION. Try to help someone , get fired.
@Drew Norton, you beat me to the punch! I was going to respond with, Only if you work for the government!
@@Steve-cc4tl - totally true in the U.S.!
@@@DrewNorton3712, Yes, Unfortunately.
Imagine talking to a guy in a calm way, and then the other officers pull up and shoot em. Damn
@Pig in a Blanket that gun was not loaded...
Ayesha Qureshi How were they supposed to know
Damn. all that work for nothing
@@CrispDuck maybe but it takes nothing to pull the trigger by accident, if the gun is waved around the bullet has a chance of hitting an officer or innocent bystander or child even, in which case they then have to answer questions to parents and families on why he wasnt shot in the first place. While i agree the officer shouldn't have been fired for trying to de-escalate the shooting is justified. It's not always about what the persons intentions are, it's the outcomes that can happen from their actions while clearly not thinking straight, it's better he got shot than an officer or just someone random nearby.
@@shroomzgames7370 it been better if they let the first officer on the scene do his job instead of taking action in his own hands they said other officers showed up but only one other one shot which means the one that shot was the only one who didn't access the situation
An actual soldier run through the mud by pretend soldiers, for trying to do the right thing. I want to say I'm stunned but...
But what good would it do?
Many police officers are or have been soldiers so be stunned BAD MAN
Blue Falcons are named this for a reason lol
po4RP20361 PRETEND SOLDERS
@@po4RP20361 one thing got me when I went to a party with my army mates and that was how fat some were!? As my friend stated "some do it to protect the country and some do it for the money"!? The problem with our military is that commision can be bought, the blokes that actually do the job are ruled by pricks that come out of military school and university!?
He got fired for calling that man his brother thats the real conspiracy
Raija wtf?
He said someting a true mason would acknowledge ....not just a mason but a person who is in touch with humanity and the truth ....because all humans are brothers and sisters to one another .....people just don't accept the reality of things
He pulled his gun out he asked for it
@@simonklein6082 You Simon are fired! 👎
@@simonklein6082 It was suicide by cop...there are great chances that the guy was never going to harm anyone...Our police have a duty to protect us...whether that means shooting at the last second or even taking a bullet first.
This is why I trust soldiers more than police officers
ShyrentArtKill yeah and what’s sad is the fact that cops will harass off duty soldiers and vets.
Well a lot of military personnel join the police after they finish service...
@@BigJ0hn_steez proof?
Bob Bee I’ve seen it a lot but idk 🤷🏿♂️
And give soldiers more respect than cops
Good cop “I’m not gonna shoot you brother”
Bad Cop “ hold my beer”
hold my donut*
Good cop "I am not gonna shoot you brother"
Bad cop "You are fired"
Good cop: immediately stops a dangerous threat
Bad cop: allows suspect to wave a gun around assuming he won’t shoot anyone.
@@StannisTheMannis305 I knew we'd get some bootlickers like you in here. Good job, man.
@Lyle Walker
Thanks criminal lover!
He risk his life by serving for our country and this is what our country do to him!! As Black people we need to standup for police like this.
Gregory Denis you should stand up for all police they’re job is to serve and protect these men and women don’t know if this is the last time they’ll come home Alive next time it might be a coffin
Covfefe u fool he said like this meaning all the good cops why would he stick up for corrupt police officers u dimbo
Why the fuck would you stand up for all cops, they don’t give a fuck about you. This week alone 2 departments in the us are under fire. Miami police for the ups driver and using civilian cars as shields while civilians are still in them. & LAPD with the beating of protestors.
They have no obligation to protect you. What I don’t understand is your tax payer money goes to people who don’t think about consequences and value $$$, racial profiling>human life
@@covfefe1787 Why stand up for cops that would rather shoot first and ask questions later you boot licking clown. This guy here is a HERO. These are the cops that deserve respect. You dont understand simply morals and ethics..
Just commit less crime.
13/52. 🙄
We need way more officers like this very honorable man.
Well Americans who live in him state shall gather together and demand to bring him up to service.. Power to the People.
The lawsuit should include termination of those who fired him.
Termination from the universe
Fired the cop or "fired" the victom?
Well now.. To discern that we've gotta draw a line in the bull manure. We'll call it a legal document just to keep it simple.
Timothy Parsons what's sad is they probably got a promotion. America is fucked
You said it best, and I hope he wins.
So he had more training, experience, good heart and integrity than the whole police department he served with. I am starting to think that one must serve in military before they apply for law enforcements.
Or just get a “Gendarmerie” of your own since they are soldiers who are part of the military but stay on the territory to insure the protection of the citizens.
@Mario Meza 😂 joke
@Mario Meza (bleep) you too (bleep)
Never mind these others here, that is an outstanding idea. But why not go one step and make the military also the law enforcement. Just think alone how many more checkpoints we could have.
Really... "than the whole policd department?' Can you say that? It's neither logically nor mathematically possible? He's the only virtuous person in the entire department... meter people... janitors... accountants... administrators---such hyperbole is so unfortunate and over the top.
Credit where credit is due well done Officer Mader.
The officer that killed the man probably got a raise.
And a promotion.
They had to do it
Lol XD
@@eugene4584 No they didnt! Stephen was descalating the situation correctly and nobody would of have gotten hurt had the other officer not shot. The gun wasnt loaded, remember?
@@icebiirb9440 how are the police supposed to know that? All they see is an armed suspect refusing to comply with simple commands and is an extreme threat to the safety of not only the officers but anyone in the immediate area.
He is truly a hero, moral courage is what's missing in today's society. I am proud of you brother.
Wtf? He should get reinstated to his job we need more officers like him.
Tbh they don’t deserve him he’s gonna get way farther in life now
Probably in 'Democratic Party', what do you think? He seems more like minded there! 😁😆
"They don't deserve him," The whole department is full of criminals. The people need an actual police department here! You're missing the point!
The police department in Weirton are WEIRD! Kudos Mr. Mader, and thank you for your service not just to your city, but to this country!!!
Probably they reflect their citizens or the citizens who know them well enough to call them wierd, right Goddess Love
This is what a cop should act like not like chickens
I completely support this officer and what he did. The police department that fired him should be sued and forced to take this kind of training for the rest of its officers.
They all have this training, it doesnt come before safety of others though
No they need to be fired and implement new leadership if that’s supposedly their mentality. Wouldn’t want them on our streets.
This is so wrong in so many ways,I can’t believe this happened.
Thats because you live in a dummy bubble
oh, i can believe it. see my OP.
@Paper Eazy Maybe because he was telling us what happened exactly. Maybe if the man was asian or Mexican or anything, he would've said that instead. You're reading too much into this.
Because if it was a white man he would look different🤔
@Paper Eazy you got problems
More policemen like him is need not only in the US BUT worldwide
piggywar swamp no cop is talking a criminal into doing hard time. Period. Talking about it will ONLY allow the criminal to escape after shooting the officer. Its not wven fair to consider that the officer should give up his own life because a policy states that talking should be done first while having a gun pointed at his head. You dont bring a knife to a gun fight and you sure as hell aint killin em with words. If that policy should ever be enforced, there will be less cops around. And while some say “ fine with me “ yall forfeit/ compromise your safety. The fact that police respond to situations like this while you hide for safety is pretty damn righteous if you ask me. If the criminal had a gun to your loved ones head and blew his/her brains out cause the cop failed in his attempts to talk, who can you blame? We dont need more cops like this guy. Sorry. Uou give the criminal an inch and he might take your life. With all do respect sincerely and i really mean that. But fuck that. Most coos are good people with families and children. They dont want to die and im positive their kids dont want that either. You guys seriously need to utilize critical thinking and consider the outcome of the policies you propose.
@@lordgargamel4124, you have to be a STATUTE ENFORCER GANG MEMBER THUG.
Or a MAJOR BOOTLICKER working your way up to suck that asshole of FOLLOWERS.
ALL "good" THUGS are DEAD or FIRED and they are glad not to be part of that GANG anymore.
Taking the OATH and STOMPING ALL OVER THE Constitutions of OUR COUNTRY!
Yeah Real Good THUGS (NO MORALS or VALUES!)(aka) PSYCHOPATHS!
This officer deserve to be chiefe of the police
I hope some department with class has hired this exceptional man!
Nope he is now a truck driver. Hauls condensate from oil wells.
Fletcher Chad if that’s tru then ?!
Can't happen because their all corrput
Bwahahaha a department with class?!?!? Like saying a politician who isn't on the take or in someones pocket. There is NO anything law enforcement related with anything close to having class when they police for profit.
@@mikecheeze4312 That whole dept is scum of the earth.
Good cop: let's not kill everybody some people just need help
Police dept: ur fired
This coming from the guy who glorifies gangs
@@po4RP20361ur profile pic and channel name shows ur a weakling who hides who u are.. Troll
@@po4RP20361 So the supposed gang member (Bloods,Crips, and Essay's) makes an honest statement and you call him names? Easy to see that your probably one of those bootlickers.
@@fred5nyc to be honest the crypts and bloods kill more innocent children with their bad aim then the police do. Gang violence kills more people daily than any other form of violence. Not to mention the overdoses from their drug sales . A man glorifying gangs has no real place talking about how he hates violence. He Clearly loves violence and is only upset because the police won't let him sell crack and perform drive bys
@@kristingallo2158 how would u know?🤔
The cop who killed that kid probably got a raise and a promotion while this guy gets fired for trying to do the right thing
@FreeThinking TruthSeeker ffs he is 23 that's so young.
FreeThinking TruthSeeker wtf dude
FreeThinking TruthSeeker kinda uncalled for
FreeThinking TruthSeeker it’s just you come across as like you care more about correcting him then caring about the innocent person that has died 23 is still too young to die
ImKydd 23 is not a kid - he’s a young man.
That's sad😢! Hope he gets all the money he needs to re-start his life!
Sandy Red He only received a $175,000 settlement on this case. He deserves at least half a million on a wrongful termination case. I am surprised at this low settlement. I hope he can become a cop again but in a different department that honors the badge and his character and wouldn't discriminate against him based on the choices he makes in trying to rationalize with the troubled man, instead of shooting first and asking questions later.
@@pacifist1360 probably because the lawyer took 70% lol
He broke the cardinal rule of "Shoot first, apologize NEVER."
Jean Baptiste what’s that a cardinal rule of
@@Gwazi American government policy. All over USA and wherever they deploy their military.
That's not true at all. Probably like 95% of police shootings were absolutely necessary.
Kiz Epic Journey yep these guys can’t accept facts. they also probably think that cops kill 15,000 people every year even though it’s only like 1,000
@@Gwazi "Only a thousand..."
Your standard for acceptable murder counts by cops is very revealing. Cops cover the crimes of other cops! Wake up.
What a america , this man is a Hero , you don't fire HIM , he should be promorted , . They should make HIM the head of the police . Bless you
This is a cop that I can respect. Unfortunately, there are not many of his kind.
Cause they get fired :-(
Unfortunately you cannot respect him as a cop because he got fired
They won't hire him because they already know what's he is about.
@@degenerals6127 He was a cop when actually tried to "serve and protect" a civilian in distress. Because he was a competent Marine, he didn't freak out and kill an innocent civilian. So yes, I can respect the cop he was at that time. That he was fired and not rehired tells me all I need to know about that institution of cowards. He lost his job, but he didn't commit murder - I salute him for that. I hope he gets a better job. He was fired because they want to protect their cowardice and offensive narratives.
Thank god
Officer Mader you're a real Cop: not just a bully with a badge!
He's not a bully, he's a hero.
Everyone should call his old office and tell them how great he was and is as a officer and that they should have him train the other officers.
My guess is he was fired to protect the other cop who shot the guy in the head, can't have his judgement and official report undermining the actions of the shooter.
Hardest Khakis you're absolutely right this is what really went down.
Yer these where my thoughts exactly. Well said
@Glorious Bastard hardly looked like he froze. Looked more like he realised the situation. If that guy would of lifted his aim at him he would of dropped him before he had the chance. It appeared to me like an assisted suicide. Reguardless of if he had a firearm or not the cop had control of the situation.
He passed the test given to him from "Heaven."
So, very proud of this officer. May his deeds be counted as the "Righteousness" of the Saints.
U sound fried
Regulus & Yah Garden of Eden AMEN 🙏🏻
@Falwen Valendur
Psalm 11:5 ►
Parallel Verses
New American Standard Bible
The LORD tests the righteous and the wicked, And the one who loves violence His soul hates.
King James Bible
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
Darby Bible Translation
Jehovah trieth the righteous one; but the wicked, and him that loveth violence, his soul hateth.
World English Bible
Yahweh examines the righteous, but the wicked and him who loves violence his soul hates.
@Falwen Valendur
The Lord trieth the righteous - That is, he "proves" them, searches them, tests the reality of their piety. His dealings with them are such as to test the genuineness of their religion, and are designed to show their sincerity and the real power of their religious principles. It is not for the purpose of destroying them, or punishing them, that he deals with them as he does, but it is to show the reality of their attachment to him. This language seems here to be used to show the feeling of the persecuted and afflicted author of the psalm. He understood the reason why these calamities were suffered to come upon him - to wit, as a trial of his faith; and therefore it was his duty to remain and bear these troubles, and not to attempt to escape from them by flight. He says, therefore, that these troubles in the case of the righteous were in strong contrast with the purpose of the divine dealings toward the wicked, on whom God would "rain" snares, fire, and brimstone. In their case his judgments were for the purpose of punishing and destroying; in the case of the righteous it was to "try" them, or to test the reality of their religion.
But the wicked - The wicked in general. All the wicked.
And him that loveth violence - Referring particularly here to those who were engaged in persecuting him who was the author of this psalm. They were contemplating acts of violence toward him Psalm 11:2; he says that all such persons were the objects of the divine displeasure, and would be appropriately punished.
@Falwen Valendur
Deuteronomy 8:2
"You shall remember all the way which the LORD your God has led you in the wilderness these forty years, that He might humble you, testing you, to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not.
Psalm 26:2
Examine me, O LORD, and try me; Test my mind and my heart.
Psalm 139:23
Search me, O God, and know my heart; Try me and know my anxious thoughts;
Jeremiah 17:10
"I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give to each man according to his ways, According to the results of his deeds.
1 Chronicles 29:17
"Since I know, O my God, that You try the heart and delight in uprightness, I, in the integrity of my heart, have willingly offered all these things; so now with joy I have seen Your people, who are present here, make their offerings willingly to You.
Psalm 7:9
O let the evil of the wicked come to an end, but establish the righteous; For the righteous God tries the hearts and minds.
The ones who fired him should be fired themselves
Unbelievable he's was trying to save a life. He used his training. Yet he got fired. That tells you that the police department he worked for doesn't care about lives. The Criminal on Patrol that shot that man...shot him in the head? You can clearly see he wanted to kill him. Welcome to America the Great. My respects go to you...Sir for trying to save a life. You are a great human being. God bless you and I hope you win the lawsuit!!!
andres perez Exactly, in most other western countries, IF they shot at all, they would not aim for the head.
yeah BUT it took him 4 shots to him once in the head!!!!! wonder where the other 3 ended up!?
That's the kind of cop you want to show up when you need help.
He deserves so much respect, a true hero who value lives not eger to take them. We need more men like him
Of course he is fired from the body.
Such intelligent, patient, civilised and calm people can't be in it.
Well they can. m.czcams.com/video/P2jekvQ76mw/video.html - just you’re too blinded by hatred for the police.
Nothing surprises me anymore, however I reserve the right to be amazed
This Officer deserves a Statue and Medal for Excellence.
Great Cop! That POOR man was obviously in distress!
That "poor man" had just assaulted his girlfriend and was holding a gun. He was not a good person. This happened 2 blocks from my house. And now the former police officer who was fired for potentially putting lives in danger works at the same place I work making a lot more money than any cop does.
@@fletcherchad9434 stfu, bootlicker
Fletcher Chad ....holding a unloaded gun. There’s no way of telling if he was a good or bad person, plenty of decent people are driven to “assault” someone, plenty of terrible people “assault” people with no reason. Very few things are black and white like that
@@rayray6490 refusal to drop the gun when a police officer says drop the gun is more than enough. The guy has a serious criminal record. And to be honest real men dont hit women period. Walk away if it's that bad. The fact is no way for a cop to know if a guns loaded if they refuse to comply they are putting the cop and people in the area in danger. There is protocol and reason for it. It's pretty easy to not get shot by a cop. Simply dont make them think you are a risk. People like you are quick to stick up for a guy who isn't worth it but if someone you cared about was killed by someone because a cop refused to shoot them then I bet your tune changes. And by the way the cop who did end up shooting the criminal is still a police officer so it was obviously justified.
@@fletcherchad9434 obviously this man had mental health issues. He NEVER ONCE pointed that gun at them. He wanted to die and the trigger happy cop gave him just that. Who cares what his background looks like! That shouldn't be a reason to be killed. He didnt beat his gf or hurt her for that matter. Please know the facts before speaking on shit you obviously know little about.
If you have a problem and you call the police you just made that problem ten x worse.
chances are, you didnt need to call anyway
Here's a story, There was this guy in his apartment that was upset because his girlfriend fucked another guy, his girlfriend didn't like the fact he was pissed off and wanted her to leave, so she called the cops and told them he was upset and didn't know what he was going to do. So the cops show up at this guys apartment and the girlfriend lets them in, the guys setting on his couch on his cell phone and he didn't put down the cell phone and his hands up fast enough so the cops shot him dead.
This is such a unique officer. An officer that actually takes his training seriously, instead of throwing it all out the window to be a tough guy. Officers like these should be an example to ALL police departments in this country.
This is what we call "to protect and to serve"
It's bewildering and beyond disgusting that cop authorities would stoop so low...
@Bubbas32, It's sad but true - law enforcement is a government machine to protect and serve the government and it's regulations (always favoring the rich and more the mega rich.)
Uh.. hello? Female victim? Domestic dispute? At least one cop was there to protect and serve her.. the actual victim. Good riddance to the other one.
This man deserves an applauded 👏 best officer i have ever seen
This world is upside down and it will only get worse smh..
The cop's gift is maybe being a counselor, mentor or maybe a suicide prevention advocate. He did the right thing yes, but it could have quickly cost him his life at the same time. Protocol in police training is everything. It is not based on emotions feelings etc. No room for hesitation. It is based on the situation in front of you. Also, by this cop not shooting the suspect, the way the police department look at it is that he could have cost another officer their lives by not acting. So regardless if we agree or disagree with what this cop did, training protocol tells you that if the suspect has a gun and goes to grab it you must shoot.
Razor's Edge I get protocol. It’s there for a reason. But why fire him? That’s the part where you kinda start wondering. I don’t have all the facts but when I say the world is upside down, I mean that, unfortunately there’s more crime in this world which good cops are doing everything to protect and get those idiots arrested and all that’s great and all, but there’s also cops doing dumb shit like the crispy cream donut guy from Florida or the well known cases of police brutality that just adds up to cases like this that you get fired for trying to save a life. That’s all.
@@HeathJ.Ledger I agree with you. I think he did a great thing. All I'm saying is that the police training is run by protocols. Unfortunately they do not really see any gray areas in these situations very often. Crookedness rules the day there too
He was overqualified for this job that is why they fired him.
This is the problem, when a cop does the right thing, they're fired, or persecuted for it, by people like the COWARDS who shot the perp.
Facts!
The law doesn't immune them, it's the fucking people in power, in position that do! Sgts., Lieutenants, Captains, DA's and judges!
YT recommendation 2019: Cop fired for shooting.
YT recommendation 2020: Cop fired for not shooting.
Now that's a good officer .
You wouldnt know a good one from a bad one. In real life there are consequences and things to consider in the heat of the moment when dealing with someone who holds other lives in their hand. That suicidal guy could have fired off rounds if it wasnt for that head shot but you dont want to consider that. Life is precious and when your the one who has to take a second to consider all the things that could go bad by your inaction, you have already failed.
I want this guy to come work for our Police Department..
👍😍
Same
He didn't deserve that, they should take him back on as a police officer
ej the dj oh boy guess what
@@sapnupuas2810 what?
@The Tactical Ninjas oh ok then, at least he got $175,000 for it👌
There's a difference being just a police man that eats donuts all day
And a veteran that turned into a police man
RhinocamoGaming omg shut up last time I heard that insult to police I laughed so hard I fell off my dinosaur
*GREAT JOB SIR, YOU ARE DEEPLY APPRECIATED BY MANY FOR YOUR SERVICE AS AN OFFICER & AS A SOLIDER. YOU DID THE RIGHT THING, THANK YOU!!!!*
Thank you, Officer Mader, for your integrity. If the situation was left up to you, you would have saved a life.
Cop who shot and killed the man was promoted and awarded a medal.
The man was suicidal but he still wanna live, he just wanted his pain to go away. this cop had realized that unfortunately the others didn't.
🎯
We need more officers like him I commend u bruh and good luck I pray u get a nice lawsuit outta them
Just like every other gang, when you refuse to put in work, they kick you out of the hood
Tien Shinhan look at it logically, the man was waving a gun around, at this point the officers and any innocents around them are in danger, if the suspect opened fire then sombody innocent could have lost there’s life’s, that’s why this cop was fired, and any job if you don’t put in work you get fired, that’s why we call are jobs work
I like chees Cake
The first thing a cop should do is de-escalate the situation, not shoot to kill. Cops were supposed to protect us, not murder people. There are better ways to deal with an obviously suicidal person.
Tien Shinhan and we’re not supposed to wave guns around and put people in danger
I like chees Cake Of course but shit happens. Police have a responsibility. Their first reaction to a situation like this shouldn't be to blow the person's head off. A mentally ill person lost his life because police don't know how to de escalate a situation. If they had to shoot, it could've been in the leg. But they shot him in the head.
@Andre B Porter but that's nice t the point first off the police officers came to the situation seeing the man waving a gun around. What would you do in that situation. If anything I would have draw my gun and head to cover and tell to put the gun down. If not then I would rather taze him
may God bless him in his litigation.
I am not going to shoot you "brother" says everything
America: where laws, rules, and “morals” don’t apply.
It's been this way since day 1
I hope he wins this case because we need more officers like him in the field
This just shows how corrupt the station is.
Thank you sir for behaving as my country officers do .un like your own officers .your skills and experience are best suited where they will be appreciated. Cheers to you
Mr.Mader is the kind of Police Officer all cities should have level headed when under pressure instead of the so called cop crying I was afraid for my life if your afraid for your life don't become a Police Officer
If you think there is one police officer who is any less afraid for his life as you are, you let me know. The ones that arent afraid for their lives are the ones that get people killed.
First recommended video of Jan. 1st. 2020 and it's this one. CZcams actually did a good job today.
You almost allowed a black man to live that’s why you got fired
Black men is normal people and i don't know why some of people don't like black people....
@@idunnarnadottir2278 idk maybe my skin is scary and I’m very violent that’s why they hate me and my people.
@@wixy6638 if you're black, just remember that you're amazing just the way you're 😊💞
@@idunnarnadottir2278 thanks brother😊
@@wixy6638 i'm a girl but anytime haha 😊
Wait i was like: what a Great human did he got a medal or something like That? No he just got fired Crazy world
The officer did an amazing job thru an opposing situation. He was willing to give his time to read a situation without enabling a situation to go wrong.Not that every situation can be dealt with in the same manner but who would know unless u take ur time before acting. Hats off to not only an outstanding officer but a true man to rise above . Get back into law enforcement .The world needs u there.
He was fired for doing the right thing trying to save a life
It never made sense to me that they go to a suicide call and kill the guy. Isn't the point to get him to the funny farm so he can get better? How is killing him a good idea?
@@theresahall8206 you're right it doesn't make any sense what is the point of killing him
@Glorious Bastard the caller stated he had a gun want to kill himself and the gun was probably unloaded and he wanted the cops to do the dirty work.
@Glorious Bastard he didn't call his girlfriend did. Plus the whole point of going to a suicide call is to get the guy to the funny farm. If we are going to grant their wishes then why not spend energy on other stuff beside killing the guys we are supposed to be saving? I am sure there are other crimes they can work on.
@Glorious Bastard you aren't exactly getting the point. Cops shoot anyone with a gun. Suicide call comes in with the purpose of saving the guy. Now some people suicide with a gun. Now if we are just going kill them anyway then why not make the cops not go because the people they are supposed recusing from themselves end up dead.
We need more cops like him. He needs to be training officers!
Josh Murray this is a great idea
We need more cops like him out there.
The cop who shot him should lose his job, imagine how he interacts with the public.
Okay
1. He had a gun
2. THERES no way you can tell if it’s loaded.
3. The shooting is justified however not firing your weapon when others lives are possibly in danger is “dangerous”
I agree he shouldn’t have been fired but there’s a line. If he wants to talk down a suspect 1 on 1 while he’s waving a gun around, then I don’t mind. Whatever yes the job done.
Emile Belanger The lead officer had it under control only for a hot head to jump out of the car shouting put the gun down then firing 4 shots one in the head. Why 4 shots with the intent of killing him? Why no try to de-escalate the situation?
@@northnsouth6813 in the end we didn't see the situation on tape, and every officer had a different point of view on what was going on. The other officers _probably_ pulled up to what they saw as a man waving his gun around and acting erratic, but we don't know the whole story. Those officers who just pulled up didnt know the whole story and had to act on what they knew and interpreted what they saw at the time. We can't judge just based off of one point of view.
@@PlanetXtreme The fact that he was fired for not shooting shows to me that he didn't feel threatened enough to use his weapon. Perhaps he was right in trying to reason and deescalate the situation. The officer who used his gun fired 4 shots and one to the head shows he intended to kill the man and not disarm him. How come he was the only one to use his gun and not any of the other officers? My brother in law a serving policeman, took a shot gun from a gypsy who had it pointed at him by talking with him. In the first 24 days of 2015 the police in the USA shot and killed 59 people compared to the UK of 55 over 24 YEARS in Stockton CA alone it was 3 killings in the first 5 months of 2015 compared with Iceland with a bigger population it was 1 killing in 71 YEARS. Do American police shoot first and ask questions later?
Emile Belanger ur stupid dawg why he shot him 4x tho that was over kill that niggas job was to stop him not kill him 2 shots in the chest should have been the max and then he went for the head 4 shot that’s a dirty ass pig
So hold up 😂 the cop got fired bc he was actually doing his job 🤯💀.
Most military personnel have good composure in stressful situation. And it all starts from basic training.
Best police officer I've seen on CZcams
I hope he was able to use his tolerance, skills and courage in a better way.
That brave man WAS Deescalating!
Only a marine can be so fearless and bright.
@Old man Spooky
How do you know the situation would’ve deescalated?
The clear difference between murderer cop's and hero cop's.
He's the kind of man that you want in a police uniform representing your community!
Cop that took the shot gets payed vacation and a promotion. God bless America
Probably put on paid leave and given medal for bravery.the shooter will have a long career and the fired cop will realize he's in the wrong business.its just getting worse and it all starts at the Academy.who the he'll is training these badges
So why didn’t the cop just holster his weapon if the goal was to “save his life” and not neutralize the threat. Why draw it in the first place? Are you two aware of the amount of time officers have to react to someone pointing a gun and pulling the trigger?? It’s literally a split second.. The officer that took the shots clearly understood that. The other was too busy trying to have a tea party with the *perpetrator* and was rightfully fired.. he can’t be relied upon.
Edit: key word.. *Perpetrator*
Wow, this is truly so sad. R.I.P to the person which got shot❤