Neural cross wiring, psychedelics, zoos | Robert Sapolsky Father-Offspring Interviews Ep.6
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Episode 6 of Father-Offspring Interviews. In this video, we chat about jealousy, drugs, zoos, and more.
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0:00: Intro
0:27: Question 1 (Value of jealousy?)
3:26: Question 2 (Ramachandran’s cross wiring theories)
9:16: Question 3 (“Determined” vs “predetermined”)
11:10: Question 4 (Psychedelics and other drugs)
13:49: Question 5 (Zoos: good or bad?)
Happy Birthday, Robert Sapolsky! I hope it's been your best ever!
It has to be! He has no choice
Oooh, one of the jokes again hahaha
Hi from Brazil. Happy B-Day, Prof Sapolsky!! Thank you for all the incredible work. Tks Offspring for this channel!!!
Happy birthday Professor Robert Sapolsky. Thank you for sharing your knowledge 😊
Rachel, you lead the session wonderfully
Happy Birthday to the Sapolskys!
when he said ''your mother''
i took it personally
Why is that, Mr. Brahms?
Thanks, Professor. And Rachel. I'm loving these more and more every week. This one was especially dense and interesting and thank you, Dr. Sapolsky for being so willing to articulate your ambivalence in your answers to these questions, so well. I think it potentially teaches more than conviction ever can. We can be conflicted about things that offer some value and yet are in conflict with our values, as it turns out. Real intelligence must include the ability to tolerate ambivalence, interrogate it and to continue to wrestle with it. Bravo.
Love love love this podcast, please please please keep it up! Happy Birthday professor Robert Sapolsky!!!
Well now it's 2 days old, but belated happy birthday Robert!
The Allopathic Medicine of opposing positives and negatives in an approximate balance is the rational argument for drugs, if/when the constructive cooperation of mental balance by Empathic Medicine has been tried and requires further assistance.
See why I strongly support this Professor! Medically speaking.
Happy birthday, Professor Sapolsky! 😊 Your work has made me a much more compassionate person!
I bet you needed that LMAO, 99.9999%+ are just brutes!!!
All the love to prof.Sapolsky from Palestine ❤. You've increased my passion in neuroscience,thank u. And yes..I'm palestinian and my favourite intellectual is Jewish 😂❤❤
This is the first video series I have ever binge-watched! I *LOVE* it! After reading all the books, watching the Stanford lectures, listening to the interviews, I was hungry for more and I'm so grateful to discover these wonderful father-offspring conversations. Thank you for making these, Rachel. (And, as a parent, thank you for your heart-warming and beautiful answer to Q3 in Episode 3). Can't wait for new episodes!
The two of you make a great team. So much love goes into each episode. Happy Birthday, Mom and Dad Sapolsky! 💞🫀🌠✴
Love is just chemical and flow of information, conditioned by immune system, gut bacteria, looks, environement, evolutionary strategies employed by other parties for survival of offspring, ppl because they are aware are capable of more types of LOVe but all as primitive. E.g. TMT you go to the end and assume life is mistake, love is cosmic imbalance... czcams.com/video/hg7qdowoemo/video.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
🩵🎂🩵 Happy Birthday, Dr. Sapolsky! Thank you so much to the Offspring and the Beard for this series❣️
Hi from Estonia. Working my way through 'Behave'. Quite difficult for me as I am totally unfamiliar with the subject(s). But my daughter studies psychology in Amsterdam (NL) and I'm trying to remain an interesting conversational partner for her, so....
If you haven't watched his Stanford Lectures already, I'd recommend you do! The way he teaches makes the topics much easier to understand before diving into the books. 😊
Timestamp 2:50 "I don't know how you get rid of this sense of meritocracy when recognizing opportunities are not equally distributed." Embrace what has been determined, (set by parameters; not singular) and shoot for the best you are! A fellow advocate of determinism and the critics call fatalistic.
My guru
I think you guys should start a daily podcast.
Happy Birthday Dr. Sapolsky!!! Your stanford lectures on Biology should be burned onto a gold disc and put into a museum!
Happy, happy birthday! From an admirer!
the last advice is golden, gracias!
Happy Birthday to Dr. Sapolsky!! Thanks for everything and for this excellent fun series of interviews.
Happy Birthday Saploskies.
Happy Birthday Sir and Mam Sapolsky. Thank you for existing❤❤
Thank you so much for doing these, they are amazing, hope you will keep doing them!
The same happened to me with alcohol and drugs! At a young age I observed that the ones that did that were complete idiots, and so I developed an aversion to all that.
You two make the best team. Since emotions make our memories important and highlighted, indexing our memory better, isn't emotions created by our environmental contexts one of the variables that helped our brain evolve as it did, especially for making better predictive choices leading toward better survival?
Happy Birthday! So glad to hear you protected your brain from harmful substances. While some studies are showing promise to brains that are already having big struggles, other studies show the brain likes "fresh, healthy, organic whole food" the best.
Happy birthday to you and your wife. Best wishes for many more years of insight about the world. I’ve learned so much from your videos.
If you watched it, what do you think of the movie Primal Fear?
I draw a lot of my personal judgements from scientific knowledge as well, yet this movie highlighted to me that I tend to use the "it's just a person whose past made them do this" argument on people who look and sound innocent, as opposed to smug people who deliberately try to abuse that and are harder to look at as "just innocent animals".
Dang! I keep accidently hitting the wrong buttons and my comments evaporate into thin air! Poof!
Wishing you all a Happy Birthday 🙂 ~
Intriguing discussion about synesthesia. How does it compare with dyslexia? Similar process? Interesting about a person who can add up a math problem in terms of color. If they view the numbers as distinctive colors do they wind up with a blend of those colors in the answer or another distinctive color? What about sound?
Would be interested to hear Robert's take on people who to some extent predict the future?
Oh good grief - psychedelics. Respect for current research so long as it's well regulated and monitored. If new ways can be found to ease depression and PTSD that's great. Curious what would be the neurological mechanisms involved? Like any other medication, how does it work? That being said, I know that there are a subset of people that don't do well on them. They should be careful. Acid casualties happened in the 60s, 70s etc., not always, but they could be unforgiving. In past lives, I've met a couple of different folks who had challenges with them. One, a friend in a wheelchair I used to jam with on guitar. He had dropped acid and thought he could fly, took a leap into the wild blue yonder off a cliff. He fell into reality.
A gentle word to the wise about kids experimenting with drugs -
It's quite normal for kids to want to experiment. They are trying their wings. But, kids, it's too easy to get into trouble, especially nowadays. Dinosaur that I am, I can tell you that back in the day times were more innocent. Young people would get together and maybe have a couple of beers and a little smoke. Back then, pot was not nearly as potent as it is now. The methods by which it (at least much of it) was grown were much more "user friendly" than I've heard of in today's world. These days the cartels are dangerous in how they grow. There is bad use of harsh pesticides and other chemicals that are carcinogenic. There are many stories of the surrounding environments being trashed, for example, by dumping large amounts of chemicals such as pesticides in local creeks. And then there is the fentanyl crisis. This is no joke. Many people are dying. An innocent joint you might have smoked 30 or 40 years ago now can literally kill you if laced with only a grain or 2 of fentanyl. All it takes is one mistake.
The bottom line is your health. I had a friendly aunt, a bit of a character, who once told me that when we get old we pay for the sins of our youth. She was right. When we're young, it's easy to bounce back. This wonderful ability tends to diminish as we age. It's the way it is. If we take care of ourselves and try to stay healthy, we wind up much better off in the long run. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
My 2 cents worth - from a place of caring -
Enjoyed the discussion. We'll have to save the zoo for another time -
Happy birthday and thanks for everything …
Love this, thank you. And, wow, never a drop of alcohol ever….very interesting, will be thinking about this a lot, in addition to all these other very wonderful answers to awesome questions.
Happy birthday 🎉guys from Sydney Australia
KEEP THESE COMING LOVE THEM
HAPPY BELATED bday, absolutely loving the content!!!
HBD!!!! You are my inspiration🎉
Happy Birthday! 🎂🎉🎈
I have a sense that I think, sheer interest will drive people with a understanding of no free will. I also have a sense that I think, it would start with automation that is for all.
Happy happy birthday!🎉
I absolutely love this channel! ❤
Never tried drugs or alcohol... I'm kind of surprised, and perhaps even disappointed.
Happy Birthday Prof.
Happy Birthday🥳
Happy Birthday 🎉🎊
Happy Birthday Sapolskies! Another great episode! Absolutely love your videos! Thank you ❤
Best wishes Mr Saplosky. Long live and prosper.
Happy birthday, professor! Enjoying this kinda silly, shorter format question series.
very enjoyable, great questions
merci
Awesome questions. Happy birthday!
Happy birthday!!!🎉😂
Happy birthday 🎉
Happy Birthdays 🎉🎉🎉 ❤❤❤
First!! Happy Bday Professor! 🎉🎉🎉
Happy bday professor!!! Its mine tomorrow lol! Im cooking up a question for ya :)
How do people change, then? What is the role of my thinking and reflection in changing me?
13:49 - The song Christmas At the Zoo by The Flaming Lips comes to mind, in which in response to a human attempt to free them from the zoo the animals acknowledge they're not happy at the zoo but they want to free themselves and "seem to think they could"*. And they say, "Thanks but no thanks man, but to be concerned is good".
*The delusion of gumption! 🤪
Happy birthdaay 🥳🥳❤❤
happy birthday
happy birthday :)
Please get this wonderful man a better camera for his next birthday.
As she launched into it the irony of his daughter asking a 60s/70s era long hair about his drug use struck me immediately. Anti-climatically I already knew the answer but it was still fun
Happy birthday btw
Happy B'day Prof Sapolsky! :) I'm loving this series, and you two, needless to say. Of course that doesn't mean I have 100% comprehension of the content.
So, I'm trying to get solid on the predetermined vs chaos thing and even after having watched Stanford lectures 21 & 22 multiple times I haven't quite reconciled the cellular automata thing with randomness. Is that because I conflated the two distinct(?) concepts? i.e., given the assumption that there was an initial starting state, and a few simple rules, wouldn't that predetermine all going forth despite that fact that we can't predict the form that will evolve without iterating from square one? Or does that even makes sense?
- Confused in Ventura, CA
Our current understanding of quantum mechanics tells us that nothing in the future is ever certain. At best, predictions can be made with a probability attached to them. On the cellular level, the further into the future you go, the more likely it becomes that some of the more unlikely stuff actually will have happened. For example, it is unlikely that an atom of 40K (a radioactive isotope of potassium we all have in our body) will decay at any given moment. However, it will decay eventually, which, as far as we can tell, is determined by chance. This typically releases a high energy electron, which is capable of inflicting major damage on the DNA (and other stuff). Whether it is absorbed by a nearby DNA molecule and the type of damage inflicted is also largely determined by chance. In very rare cases, this can of course cause cancer. In a similar way, a protein channel may be activated by some chance event, releasing a neurotransmitter and, several steps down the line, you may experience a thought because of this.
@@bladdnun3016 Thank you very much! That is the clearest and most profound reply I've ever received on YT. It's clear as day as you write it so well, but I still need to build my mental model so I have a more intuitive understanding. Sounds silly but I'll bet I'm not the only one who holds this in their fingers like egg whites.
Happy Birthday Dr. Sapolsky. Dr. I also have a question, What do you think of enlightenment(last stage of yoga, also known as moksha) as described in eastern philosophy, Buddha, Swami Vivekananda, seem to be enlightened? Do you think this kind of thing have some neurological analogy/correspondence?
Hi Maria from Australia, can you tell anything about tinnitus? Thanks
O great another.
With relation to psychology / game theory: situations have affordances, agents having goals - taking the intersection of the two sets [set of agent-goals with set of situation-affordances] gives the game theory moves under the game for consideration as a set. Providing the set of all moves for any game, we can predict e.g the problems of a situation in say politics regarding the agents, their desires (goals) and the affordances of the situation(s) for considering. It is a rule of thumb formula giving an abstract starting point for consideration which can be used say to explore invention, 'novelty' etc as a mathematics sub-space. It gives all of the 'verbs' which since human invention is an action provides a formula for 'novelty,' along with corruption within an institution for example. An application: a lecturer can take advantage of a student in equilibrium given their position if they mark the exams themselves, since there exists a reciprocal - hence - why many universities have exams sent away to be marked by an external entity. I've seen this sort of thing happen at a real university where one of the students was about 21 and I won't list the age of the lecturer, but my point being that first years can be as young as sixteen, so it depends for example on the agent-goal-desire-state if they are willing to for instance face jail time, which is a 'price' in a transaction - but even more depends deeply on the entire psychology, life experiences, etc of that individual, so it's about constructing situations so that they do not have negative equilibrium, e.g 'the apple ripe for the picking will be picked.' So moving the apple outside reach.
it is: I(X) = {x(a_p, g_q) | a_p is in S and g_q is in A where p = q} this is to mean I(X) gives all moves of game where S is the situation, A is the input agent and a_p is affordance of the situation, g_q is the goal of the agent. It can be extended of course to games with multiple agents but I'm lazy and not a mathematician in the real sense. Interactions such as the environment (including us and animals etc) are of course factored in - also - just because a move is in the set doesn't mean it can be played due to constraints etc.
It only really provides a starting point for consideration it isn't a magic fix all get rich formula, it still requires a creative process etc.
Our environment, experiences and genetic make-up, determine the decisions we make, in an emergent universe unfolding.
We are not predetermined. That is what I thought you have been saying that.
The synesthetic man (Solomon Shereshevsky) that Sapolsky describes might be the most similar a real-life person has been to the fictional Funes the Memorious.
I want to say I really respect your view on alcohol. It's toxic and damages your whole system. But you gotta try a shroom, just once haha
Happy B-day. These sessions are wonderful. I am agnostic but I do wonder if religion plays a role in mitigating effects of nature such as survival of the fittest and meritocracy. We are all equal under the big tent, and god is the ultimate unassailable authority? We trade that for the rational view that we have no free will, and it's about luck, winning the nature/nurture lottery...the leftist view.
Y. E. S. I. N. D. E. E. D
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"Predetermined, once you get rid of its theological implications, which I do not want to go near with a ten-foot pole...." Dr. Sapolsky often mentions how he concluded at the age of 14 that there is no God. I'm sort of curious why he mentions that because it sounds like a kind of point of pride, as if he is saying, "See, I already knew there was no god when I was 14." But I wonder if he has read some books on near-death experiences. The reason I wonder that is because very often those who have had NDEs mention in their accounts of their NDEs that they felt that they were in the presence of a divine being--God/Jesus/First Mover. And sometimes speak (although telepathically) with the divine "One." And are, of course, ultimately told that it is not their time, that they should go back because "there is still work for them to do" of some sort. In short, it would seem that--outrageous though it must be to scientists of a certain sort--there might well be some "divinity" (however you would name it) and there might well be some "predetermined" aspects to our lives, since NDE folks so often report that they were told they should go back since there were things left for them to do. I guess this subject matter does not interest Dr. Sapolsky--and "precious few" followers of the professor, since I never receive any responses to my NDE-referencing comments--but it seems to me that scientists ought to look into NDEs before making suggestions that there is no "divinity"/God/First mover/etc. I've never had an NDE and wouldn't claim to have any ultimate knowledge, but I wouldn't dismiss an entire field or history without considering what others have experienced and written about. Okee then. Just the same, I enjoy hearing Dr. Sapolsky speak. I like the sound of his voice, and I enjoy thinking about what he relates--much of which is often fascinating!
Some believe April 6 is Jesus's actual birthday. You've got the look and some beliefs in common, then some differences of opinion.
Why do some people like me have feet fetish?
Free Will, I see your determination to recognise Singularity-point positioning in that particular interpretation, but Actuality is a Totality of Quantum-fields Conception, ..All-ways all-at-once sync-duration holography dimensionality, hyperfluid=logarithmic information quantization cause-effect coherence-cohesion sync-duration objectives In-form-ation. This is what Philosophy of Physics has the answer for, but real-time relative-timing surrounds the null set, and deludes into foolish misinterpretation. (?)
Why am I so shocked (disappointed?) he's never tried a drug?
He's delt with depression so it makes sense not wanting to mess with his brain chemistry.
@@twistedoperator4422 It makes great sense in practice. But most of us experiencing regular depression are more likely to self-medicate. Do you know if he has taken any anti-depressants?
@@jonathancrick1424You should listen to his first podcast, with Sam Harris, he explains there why he hasn't taken any drugs and never drank alcohol! And yes he is on antidepressants. That podcast is #91 (you can find it here on youtube), he also talked with Sam recently, #360.
@@jonathancrick1424you should listen to the podcast he did with Sam Harris, number 90, it's here on youtube, he says there why he hasn't ever done drugs or drank alcohol.
Robert Sapolsky is only normal person in whole world, Dennett started first sentence with personal attacks and is arrogant as hell. I find it cringe everyone wants to be positive 100% times (this toxic positivity)... When you are positive 100% times you were wrong somewhere. Life is both positive/negative, it is neutral but ppl ascribe value judgements to things ... The very basis of reality is irrational... Ppl like Bernardo Kastrup, Donald Hoffman make theories about consciousness - Kastrup doesn't believe in free will either! None of biggest geniuses in history believed in fw... They make theories everything is one consciousness , but then don't look at implications of their own theories - one would suffer all painful deaths and tortures since 2.6M ago - that is totally absurd!!! Schopenhauer said: there are turtles that go lay eggs on beach and some wolves come and bite them from under their armor and this cruel cycle repeats each year... This worls is either indifferent absurd cosmos/reality of straight up evil. Father and dad go swimming and some youth gang comes fuck with them and father just says: to leave them alone enjoy swimming with his son and they shoot him to head, but then if someone does 1/10000000 to them they cry and invent ethics - PATHETIC! Unit 731 experimented even on scientists and some scientists after doing terrible things when they dissected him alive yelled "brutes" HAHAHA ppl are hypocritical like that! "Sudō had, a few days previously, been interested in talking about women, but now he was thin as a rake, with many purple spots over his body. A large area of scratches on his chest were bleeding. He painfully cried and breathed with difficulty. I sanitised his whole body with disinfectant. Whenever he moved, a rope around his neck tightened. After Sudō's body was carefully checked [by the surgeon], I handed a scalpel to [the surgeon] who, reversely gripping the scalpel, touched Sudō's stomach skin and sliced downward. Sudō shouted "brute!" and died with this last word." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 Some VIkings tried to steal goal from Indian tent, but then indian catched him and wasn't even threatening him just let him knew he disapproved and told him just he is stealing and he slit his throat how he was entitled like he deserved that gold and was above them! But then when his clan tried to punish by blood eagle: he pussied out. Ppl even knowing harsh punishment will come hurt others and like they are better ,but when someone tries to do 1/100000000 to them suddenly they completely flip out and accuse other of what they were doing! Life is hell. "life is so terrible it can exist only based on lies" - Nietzcshe I hate whole humanity! Everyone is rapist, sadist, murderer and thief! scholarcommons.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=phi
Robert, no free will. So you're a zombie😂 . If we have no free will, evolution would not have created fear, pain, love as they are the primary controllers of human behavior or changing our decision. Think about it. Best wishes
Happy birthday Robert, thanks so much for your work and I love this series.
I might even join Instagram just for your account 😊
Please go away. Why am I getting this upload? This is just another advertisement for his book. He is a very clever guy. Help save our Earth.