All Are Welcome... In Hell

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  • čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
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    Increasingly, we’re seeing movements in the #Church that want to say, come as you are, stay as you are, all are welcome as they are - with no simultaneous message of, if you want God’s promises of eternal life, you’re going to have to change, you’re going to have to respond in some way - first and foremost by repenting.
    You’re going to have to recognize your faults and renounce them to begin the process of being healed of them. You have to embrace a process of sanctification. That’s what it means to be a disciple of Jesus.
    And to endorse or give your blessing to someone as they are, in the name of inclusivity, is not inclusive and it’s not loving. And so anybody who wants to say that’s the defining feature of a God of Love, is lying to you.
    A Church that prioritizes unconditioned inclusivity has more in common with Hell than it does with God’s Kingdom. Because all are welcome as they are in Hell. Hell doesn’t expect you to change or become better as a prerequisite to admission. In fact, it doesn’t want you to change, it wants you to stagnate and miss out on your fullest happiness and purpose in life, which we admitted from the beginning, is not where we are. We can all improve, remember? Hell wants you to skip out on all that and is happy to take you as you are.
    Admission into God’s kingdom is conditional. All are invited, but not everyone comes.
    Music written and generously provided by Paul Jernberg. Find out more about his work as a composer here: pauljernberg.com
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  • @villefere6968
    @villefere6968 Před 6 měsíci +295

    Nothing is as diverse, equitable and inclusive as hell.

    • @juancarlosv5136
      @juancarlosv5136 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hell is what you can find at the core of a star like the Sun. That is real.

    • @kennotrogzeug7012
      @kennotrogzeug7012 Před 6 měsíci

      That is why the alphabet soup athiest people say "diversity is our strength".

    • @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell
      @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell Před 6 měsíci +2

      True, unbaptized infants also go there.
      Council of Florence:
      The souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone (i.e. unbaptized infants), go down straight away to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains

    • @baseballmomof8
      @baseballmomof8 Před 6 měsíci

      Perfectly said

    • @catholicguy1073
      @catholicguy1073 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHellwhat you’re stating is incorrect. There are different levels of hell. Hell is the separation from God. Not everyone in hell is treated equally which is spoken about in Scripture. For example when Jesus descended to hell the OT saints were there like Moses and Abraham along with others who led a good life. They were in what is called Abraham’s bosom. If infants are separated from God they would be in a state of natural happiness.
      Lastly God can override the commandments because he’s God. The purpose of the Sacraments is the ordinary way of salvation.
      So you’re either ignorant or trolling. Considering your name on here I’m going for the latter

  • @gingerherringtonSTMM
    @gingerherringtonSTMM Před 6 měsíci +58

    While Jesus meets us where we are, He loves us too much to leave us as we are. An ongoing spirit of repentance and conversion is necessary for Eternal Life

  • @glennrogers5568
    @glennrogers5568 Před 6 měsíci +101

    If the living knew what the dead knew the whole world would follow Jesus Christ…

    • @fishofgold6553
      @fishofgold6553 Před 6 měsíci +3

      That just makes me wonder why Jesus doesn't just clearly show and tell all humanity what it needs to know about Heaven, Purgatory, Hell, sin, holiness and God's Will rather than letting 99.99% of us wallow in cluelessness. But that would actually make sense, so of course He won't do it.

    • @healedsinner
      @healedsinner Před 6 měsíci +13

      ‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:27‭-‬31‬
      [27] And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house- [28] for I have five brothers-so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ [29] But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ [30] And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ [31] He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”

    • @sebastianlionelmartinez6305
      @sebastianlionelmartinez6305 Před 6 měsíci +9

      there are people who sadly would still choose separation from God

    • @mangaranwow2543
      @mangaranwow2543 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@fishofgold6553 Jesus (in John 3:12): I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

    • @dai701
      @dai701 Před 6 měsíci

      NDE...near death experiences mostly reveal a mirror image of your living belief...Christians see Christians...Buddhists see Buddhists...Muslims see Islam. In general this is the norm...interesting.

  • @Chamindo7
    @Chamindo7 Před 6 měsíci +52

    God loves us as we are.
    But, He loves us too much to leave us that way.
    Thank God!
    Deus Vult

    • @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell
      @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell Před 6 měsíci

      He doesn’t love us as we are. We are basically sin itself after the Fall.

    • @emilymarie5413
      @emilymarie5413 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHellI think that was his point if you read the whole quote. He still loves us before we are born again…
      He still loves US through our sin… not our sinful ways themselves but who He knows we are meant to be according to His perfect will. ❤

    • @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell
      @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell Před 6 měsíci

      @@emilymarie5413 I mean, He loves the Elect before they are born again, but He doesn’t love the non-Elect (not in the same way at least)

    • @Chamindo7
      @Chamindo7 Před 6 měsíci

      You sound like you have read and admire Calvinism.

    • @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell
      @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell Před 6 měsíci

      @@Chamindo7 I have read a lot of Augustine..

  • @PolymorphicPenguin
    @PolymorphicPenguin Před 6 měsíci +51

    That's an excellent point, God loves us the way we are, but He doesn't want us to stay the way we are. If religious leaders are saying, "You should just do whatever you want and sin as much as possible" there's something wrong there.

  • @consecratedsoul
    @consecratedsoul Před 6 měsíci +28

    “Abstain from all appearance of evil” 1 Thessalonians 5:22
    St Paul pray for us.

  • @orangemanbad
    @orangemanbad Před 6 měsíci +231

    People think affirming trans and LGBT practice is “nice” it’s actually affirming their soul will be eternally damned. That’s not nice.

    • @user-kf8wb2cq4f
      @user-kf8wb2cq4f Před 6 měsíci +29

      The same thing for Adulterers, Fornicators, Divorced People, Gamblers, Alcoholics, Abortionists.

    • @BigIdeaSeeker
      @BigIdeaSeeker Před 6 měsíci

      @@user-kf8wb2cq4fEwww, divorced people. 😅

    • @khatack
      @khatack Před 6 měsíci +20

      The mistake they make is the same mistake you're making. They think that niceness is a virtue. What niceness really is is cowardice masquerading as virtue. Jesus was NOT nice, people forget that Jesus was a firebrand force to reckon with. People remember the Jesus of the inane stories we tell to children in religious cartoons and forget the Jesus of the Bible that drove away the moneylenders from the temple using a whip. Niceness is the very essence of choosing the easy way out, avoiding uncomfortable subjects and potential conflict and allowing problems to fester, Niceness is the most surefire way to end up in a very literal hell of your own making, both in life and in eternity. It's incredibly soul crushing to realize how many self proclaimed Christians worship this modern care-bear rainbow-land God; God is not a Teddy-Bear, God is fearsome, and if you're not mortally AFRAID of God, you do NOT truly believe in Him. To know God is to be afraid of God. The best remedy for this is to revisit the Old Testament and give it some serious thought.

    • @orangemanbad
      @orangemanbad Před 6 měsíci

      @@user-kf8wb2cq4f ALL sin.

    • @orangemanbad
      @orangemanbad Před 6 měsíci +16

      @@khatack Jesus brought the sword. Meaning he divided many. He said himself if you don’t love him more than you love your own parents you will not have him.

  • @poetmaggie1
    @poetmaggie1 Před 6 měsíci +43

    Everyone can go to Hell, we have to make an effort to get to Heaven.

    • @t.d6379
      @t.d6379 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Calvanists enter the chat 😂

    • @Unclenate1000
      @Unclenate1000 Před 6 měsíci

      pretty critical design flaw on god's part that one is easier than the other especially when he allegedly prefers who choose the harder one.

    • @robertdolcetti450
      @robertdolcetti450 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I think this is less of a flaw in God and more of a flaw in us. If we are wiling to put our trust in Him, it’s not that hard to go to Heaven. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. The fact that people choose to avoid Him is more on them than anything. If God just wanted everyone in Heaven, then He wouldn’t give us any free will at all. We are given a meaningful choice. When we choose wrongly, we really only have ourselves to blame. God Himself is not harmed by this choice either. Only the damned are.

  • @josephanuga2543
    @josephanuga2543 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I once posted a comment on one of your videos saying that you are one of the clearest voices of reason from the West in our times and someone replied that he pitied my country which is in Africa.
    I remain as persuaded now as I was then. Here you are teaching truths that the Pope appears not to grasp. Truths that are integral to the Catholic faith!.... I'm grateful you made this video.
    Keep up the good work and may our Lord and our Lady be with you and your family always.

    • @tolkienlewis6887
      @tolkienlewis6887 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Many of us in the West are grateful to Africa and its wonderful bishops.

    • @kimfleury
      @kimfleury Před 6 měsíci +5

      May the next Pope be a holy man from Africa!

  • @MyCatholicBookNook
    @MyCatholicBookNook Před 6 měsíci +9

    Recovering overachiever here. Workaholism can be another form of sloth so sometimes it’s good advice to rest and prioritize health and relationships with others and God above self improvement. That being said, I agree we can’t stay stagnant and tolerate sin. But sometimes self improvement and spiritual improvement don’t look the same.

  • @davideskridge9242
    @davideskridge9242 Před 6 měsíci +19

    Respectfully, becoming a better (more moral) person is not a prerequisite to discovering the Church. It is a co-requisite. There's a significant difference.

    • @richvestal767
      @richvestal767 Před 6 měsíci +2

      That depends on what you mean by "discovering the Church."
      Because an immoral person is not going to see the Church through the same ethical or moral framework as a moral person would.
      So becoming a more moral person definitely seems to be a prerequisite for discovering the Church as it actually is vs. that distorted image of the Church that is held by an immoral person.

    • @Thomasrice07
      @Thomasrice07 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Better yet, the result

    • @Thomasrice07
      @Thomasrice07 Před 6 měsíci

      you cant be a moral person without Christ. The Church is the body of Christ.@@richvestal767

    • @khatack
      @khatack Před 6 měsíci

      A better way to see it I think is that becoming a better person is not a prerequisite of faith but the result of it.
      Churches are mortal institutions and a such they're highly corruptible. Churches are not God's representatives for us, they're OUR representatives for God, their state revealing the state of our collective faith.

  • @suzannelangdon
    @suzannelangdon Před 6 měsíci +15

    Brian thank you for this video, my brother took his own life and we found him Christmas Day just gone. The next day my only son who I've just found out is an addict, die in my arms but I called out to God not to take him and thanks be to God and His Holy Blessed Mother we got his heart beating again before the ambulance arrived. Me and my deceased brother were not in contact with my parents, they were very abusive to us as children and as adults. I had to speak to them for the sake of my brothers wake and funeral. I've been wondering why God hit me so hard in two short days and I was thinking that it's to bring me closer to Him and bring Him to my parents before they leave this world. I totally understand that souls are saved through suffering and this is the suffering that will save my soul and my sons soul and please God my parents as well 🙏 I really needed to hear this message today. Thank you for listening to Christ and letting God love people through you and your channel.
    God bless you and everyone here. I beg you and everyone here to keep me and my son in your prayers, God can break addiction in the blink of an eye 🥰

    • @tolkienlewis6887
      @tolkienlewis6887 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I am so sorry for your loss and pain. At the same time in awe that you are seeing what God is doing. Blessings on you. I will pray for you and your son.

    • @suzannelangdon
      @suzannelangdon Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@tolkienlewis6887 thank you so much for your kind words and prayers they are really appreciated. I'm in awe too that God has helped me see His Blessed Beautiful Hand in my life at the minute. Trusting Him is harder than the suffering and I have been praying the last year for the Grace to Trust Him above all else. The Lord is Faithful and Will Give us what we ask, if it's for the good of our souls. I'm going through the fast track lesson for Trusting Him and I know that He Will Carry me through 🙏 I will also keep you in my prayers. God bless you and your family.

    • @tolkienlewis6887
      @tolkienlewis6887 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@suzannelangdon your words and faith strengthen my faith. What you write is so true and we all struggle to trust. We will pray for one another and j greatly appreciate your promise to pray for my family. Have a blessed Sunday 🙌

    • @suzannelangdon
      @suzannelangdon Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@tolkienlewis6887 isn't that what faith is all about, our Communion with each other. The Lord's Prayer starts with "Our Father" not "my Father". Your words of kindness and encouragement are nourishment. You and yours are now in my prayers before bed 🙏 please God we'll meet in heaven, I'll be eternally grateful for your prayers. God bless you and your whole family my friend 🙏

    • @tolkienlewis6887
      @tolkienlewis6887 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@suzannelangdon and you and your son. I hope a reconciliation with your parents will be possible 🙏

  • @racheljames7
    @racheljames7 Před 6 měsíci +27

    Very well said, brother. They're harsh words, but its needed, and you delivered the harsh words in a kind and gentle way.

  • @sinfall5280
    @sinfall5280 Před 6 měsíci +13

    I saw the video title and thunbnail and immediately thought "Oh good, a video I can send my mom"
    Wasnt expecting to get called out the first 10 seconds of the video. Thank you. You truly care and I need to make some changes.

  • @wendyfield7708
    @wendyfield7708 Před 6 měsíci +9

    St.John of the Cross said at the end of life we will be judged on LOVE, not by other people’ s opinions and judgments. +

  • @consecratedsoul
    @consecratedsoul Před 6 měsíci +10

    The fact is that a blessing has an objective reality of its own and thus cannot be redefined at will to fit a subjective intention that is contrary to the nature of a blessing.
    When we bless a couple we are blessing a relationship. When that couple is engaged in a public sinful relationship and has no intention of repentance, we are blessing sin.
    “God cannot send his grace upon a relationship that is directly opposed to him and cannot be ordered toward him. Sexual intercourse outside of marriage, cannot bring people closer to God and therefore cannot open itself to God's blessing.
    Therefore, if this blessing were given, its only effect would be to confuse the people who receive it or who attend it. They would think that God has blessed what He cannot bless. This “pastoral” blessing would be neither pastoral nor a blessing” -Cardinal Muller
    God will not be mocked.

    • @harleymann2086
      @harleymann2086 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The Church has MORE THAN ONE type of blessing. There are different forms of blessings. You only focus on sacramental blessings for “approvals sake”.
      Can you tell me what is wrong with this practice?
      The Priest can recite a simple prayer like this over two gay people:
      “Lord, look at these children of yours, grant them health, work, peace and mutual help. *Free them from everything that contradicts your Gospel and allow them to live according to your will.* Amen”.
      Then it concludes with the sign of the cross on each of the two persons. This is all *done in private.*
      We are talking about something that lasts about 10 or 15 seconds.
      Can you tell me what is wrong with this practice?

    • @blessedvirginmaryisqueen8448
      @blessedvirginmaryisqueen8448 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@harleymann2086Amen!!!

  • @cwthomas
    @cwthomas Před 6 měsíci +5

    Listening to this I suddenly realized the contradiction of the "Jesus did it all so you don't have to do anything except rest in that fact." It's essentially the same as saying "Don't pick up your cross because Jesus picked up everybody's cross when he carried his." Which of course isn't remotely what happened or what he said.

  • @tolkienlewis6887
    @tolkienlewis6887 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I might for the first time have understood the part in the Bible where the man not wearing a wedding garment is evicted from the wedding feast.

  • @josezarraga9474
    @josezarraga9474 Před 6 měsíci +13

    This is the best video tittle I've seen. Your content is great.
    I send you my blessings from Venezuela

  • @killianmiller6107
    @killianmiller6107 Před 6 měsíci +5

    “All are welcome” and “come as you are” are both important elements of the Church’s pastoral mission. God wishes that all will repent and be saved, and they usually do not repent if they don’t think they are welcome in the hospital for sinners. But of course, while sick people are welcome, sickness is not welcome in a hospital. You don’t go to a hospital if you have no intention of getting better. How do we help them want to get better? We must show them what it’s like to be healthy, that’s evangelism.

    • @Zeero3846
      @Zeero3846 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'll accept that the slogans aren't outright wrong or even evil, and I'm not even saying that they need to be paired with anything else (although maybe they should), but the parish or group that says these things need to conduct themselves in a manner that actively, openly, and explicitly demonstrates the power of repentance and accountability to life ordered in Christ. They can't just be social groups, which is exactly why slogans like "all are welcome" and "come as you are" become corrupted and has largely not convinced sinners to seek the Church for God's mercy, not even realizing the purpose of His grace that He still offers despite their choices. Yes, all are welcome to come as they are. That's how anyone starts, and the Church does give them a place to go, but sometimes her children have a bad habit of convincing others that it may not be worth the sacrifice.
      Don't get me wrong, I understand why we sometimes do that, and it's not simply because we are just trying to be nice, but we understand the reality that for some people, their journey involves a sacrifice and a life change that we were blessed to never have to endure, and that is a difficult thing to demand of someone who is so spiritually impoverished.

  • @FSR431
    @FSR431 Před 6 měsíci +13

    Faith in Christ is accessible to everyone. Repentance is the only thing we need. It's not like we have to reach an unreachable level. the Church in the mercy of Christ has the bar only 6 inches off the ground. It's not a huge jump, but only a simple step.

    • @khatack
      @khatack Před 6 měsíci +8

      How do we repent if we do not understand that we're sinners? How do we understand that we're sinners if we do not understand that what we do and what we desire is sinful? Repentance is not the only thing we need, we need a whole lot of other things before we can even get that far. IF you are to do God's work here on earth and save souls of fellow men, you need to first have the humility to understand that sin is not so easily overcome, faith is not so easily discovered and prideful arrogance not so easily dismantled. Most Christians fail in their basic duty to God precisely because in their arrogance they're blind to their own sin and blind to the struggles of others. They're like the Pharisee who thanked God in their prayers that they're not like the sinful publican, thinking they were so much better, rather than being like the sinful publican who sought forgiveness. Do NOT discount the monumental struggle against sin, nor how difficult it is for a sinner to reach that bar even if it is only 6 inches off the ground. If you're honest to yourself you will find times you cannot even reach that bar yourself; saying that you repent and truly repenting in your heart are two VERY different things.

    • @FSR431
      @FSR431 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@khatack you are right repentance isn't the only thing you need but it is the first. The first step is the acknowledgement that there is sin in our life and that are willing to turn to God for forgiveness. That is the "6 inches" off the ground that we can recognize our sin and acknowledge it before God, confess, and begin the process of the healing from sin. It's about personal response to God.
      You are correct to say that there is a monumental struggle against sin. It is, in fact, impossible to overcome your sin which is why God became man to overcome your sins for you. This is why the Catholic faith is a religion of Grace. Grace is the life of God that Christ gives you through His forgiveness and comes to you to give you new life. You aren't meant to overcome your sin by your own power but by his love.

    • @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell
      @UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHell Před 6 měsíci

      Faith and repentance are not accessible to everyone.
      correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth ~ 2 Timothy 2:25
      He “may perhaps”. Not: “Hey, I am definitely open to give it to everybody”. Also, Philippians 2:13 says that it is God who works in us to will and to act. So it depends upon Gods willingness, in order for us to even will. That’s why we pray for somebody’s salvation, like Paul in Romans 10:1. Praying for somebody’s salvation doesn’t make sense if people have to autonomously respond to or cooperate with God, since how can God save them then? God would have no control over it
      I recommend all of Augustines anti-Pelagian work, but most specifically his two works against Julian of Eclanum.

  • @cucumber9864
    @cucumber9864 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I love this video. As an educator, I always question myself if I should be gently pushing my students to reach greater heights. Now I know what I am doing is right and I don't have to wrestle with my conscience on this anymore.

  • @3ggshe11s
    @3ggshe11s Před 6 měsíci +35

    You can conform to the church or conform to the world. When the church begins to conform to the world, we're in deep trouble.

    • @khatack
      @khatack Před 6 měsíci

      If you conform to the church instead of conforming to God, you're just as lost as those who conform to the world. Worship God, not the institution created by man, run by man and ruined by man. The Church does NOT represent the power of God on earth for man, the Church represents the dedication of man to the God in heaven, and if man's dedication to God is false, so will be the Church he builds for God.

    • @johne.8939
      @johne.8939 Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@khatackthat’s where you’re wrong haystack….. aligning with the is aligning of God……you cannot be sure the God you are aligned with is the real God without some guidance….. to think otherwise is not rational but is arrogant.
      BTW, the Church was created by Christ, so is a DIVINE institution.

    • @3ggshe11s
      @3ggshe11s Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@khatack - there should be no difference between conforming to God or to the church, as the church ought to reflect his will. That they are increasingly becoming two different things is exactly the problem.

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@khatackthere is nothing in this world which God does not ultimately control.

    • @adam12732
      @adam12732 Před 6 měsíci

      But it will never.

  • @Zeero3846
    @Zeero3846 Před 6 měsíci +2

    A simple way to think about it that all are welcome in a gym, and you are free to come as you are, but even a gym has rules about what you come there for (especially if you're trying to cause trouble to prove some point), and a good gym will also prevent you from using equipment in a way that is highly unsafe, but ultimately, it is understood that everyone is there to exercise, strengthen, and maintain themselves. Anything that disrupts that purpose is likely going to get you kicked out, and no one, except those doing the disrupting, finds that unreasonable or unfair.

  • @LeoOrlando-yd2ut
    @LeoOrlando-yd2ut Před 6 měsíci +2

    I ALWAYS am aware I can and should be a better person. Holiness is a hike uphill, not a walk in the park.

  • @peter-pi8bc
    @peter-pi8bc Před 6 měsíci +2

    To love truly requires the courage to rebuke and to punish.

  • @jntwyatt
    @jntwyatt Před 6 měsíci +6

    You’re a very good communicator. I love the way you articulate and present your thoughts.

  • @Netheferious
    @Netheferious Před 4 měsíci +1

    The fact that this pisses me off proves that I needed to hear it. Thanks.

  • @Tatkirbologna
    @Tatkirbologna Před 4 měsíci +2

    It’s always good to listen to religious people talk about an argument for their religion. It helps me to remember that it’s not true. What a loving God sending people to burn for all eternity just because there is not sufficient proof to prove that the God of the Bible is real. The same standard exist in Islam and yet Christians don’t convert to Islam.

  • @SandraVonRR
    @SandraVonRR Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you, Brian, I, for one, definitely got your message. GOD bless you!

  • @rosecotton2991
    @rosecotton2991 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Well said, thank you!

  • @izic6450
    @izic6450 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thank you for making this video, god bless you Brian!

  • @GranMaese
    @GranMaese Před 6 měsíci +2

    Well said, Brian. And that's part of the beauty of blessings, to help those in need find sanctity in their lives and overcome their sinful ways. Blessing a sinner doesn't mean one is blessing or pampering their sin, but having faith they'll find the necessary strength to change their lives for good and be saved.

  • @ronmartinez2766
    @ronmartinez2766 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you! Great talk to inspire the occasionally necessary course corrections in our lives.

  • @TCM1231
    @TCM1231 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you for providing the music you use in the description I have always loved the sound

  • @Justeelisjust
    @Justeelisjust Před 6 měsíci +4

    Fiducia supplicans is not denying that the change is necessary. It shines a light on scenarios where an individual or a pair of people asks spiritional strength to change from God. This supernatural help would be poured by God in a form pastoral blessing.

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 Před 6 měsíci +1

      No, it specifically says blessing as a couple. We don't all want to see priests blessing sinful couplings.

    • @Justeelisjust
      @Justeelisjust Před 6 měsíci

      @@sliglusamelius8578 couple = pair of people

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Justeelisjust
      Keep gaslighting. It's clear to all that if I approach a priest with my wife and ask for his "blessing", that we are asking for a blessing for our relationship. If I wanted a personal blessing, I would not approach with my wife. Also, he would not bless us simultaneously if it were individual.

    • @Justeelisjust
      @Justeelisjust Před 6 měsíci

      @@sliglusamelius8578 blessing doesn't always mean approval! And the document is also clear about this. What do you benefit from willingly interpreting the document's message as a total opposite?

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Justeelisjust
      It's convenient that I am a native English speaker and understand the plain meaning of their texts as written:
      III. Blessings of Couples in Irregular Situations and of Couples of the Same Sex
      31. "Within the horizon outlined here appears the possibility of blessings for couples in irregular situations and for couples of the same sex, the form of which should not be fixed ritually by ecclesial authorities to avoid producing confusion with the blessing proper to the Sacrament of Marriage."
      Section 4 of the clarification statement:
      "The real novelty of this Declaration, the one that requires a generous effort of reception and from which no one should declare themselves excluded, is not the possibility of blessing couples in irregular situations. It is the invitation to distinguish between two different forms of blessings: “liturgical or ritualized” and “spontaneous or pastoral”.
      So they are merely saying that there cannot be a liturgy attached to the blessing of the COUPLE. The COUPLE is being blessed as a COUPLE. But no LITURGY is attached to the blessing of the COUPLE.
      We are not stupid. James Martin SJ proves by his actions that they are lying.

  • @xiomarablanco5598
    @xiomarablanco5598 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent reflection! We all have the potential of being better or being bad, our choice!

  • @andyhandy997
    @andyhandy997 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Today is the first Saturday of the month. Do the first Saturday devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, requested by Her Majesty at Fatima.

  • @mschmidt1645
    @mschmidt1645 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is what I needed to hear today. I need to get better with this.

  • @tolkienlewis6887
    @tolkienlewis6887 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Wonderfully presented. The current word from Rome is for me lazy theology. I belueve Bonhoeffer called it "cheap grace".

  • @Avinkwep
    @Avinkwep Před 6 měsíci +4

    I agree with the start of the video but disagree that playing video games is a waste. It stimulates the brain more than watching a movie, challenges our puzzle solving, creates hand eye coordination, and multiplayer games can create lasting friendships and bring together existing ones easier than making in person plans

    • @shawnboahene5231
      @shawnboahene5231 Před 6 měsíci +2

      True, but we need to do things in moderation. It’s just an easy example.

  • @kimlevesque6103
    @kimlevesque6103 Před 6 měsíci +1

    A great lesson.

  • @toxicharm7239
    @toxicharm7239 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I thought the same thing today when I saw a downtown store with its door smashed in and boarded up with a sticker saying "all are welcome" with a rain ow background.

  • @brigidmartin
    @brigidmartin Před 6 měsíci +8

    Keep going to Mass, pray for our Church and remember this is all a distraction from the financial corruption going on in The Vatican

    • @11-AisexualsforGod-11
      @11-AisexualsforGod-11 Před 6 měsíci

      Only a Calvinist devil could think them selves to be more clever then the Vatican

    • @Metanoia000
      @Metanoia000 Před 6 měsíci +2

      That’s a complete stretch, I don’t know how you even connect the 2 lol

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@Metanoia000there are no coincidences. They simply don't exist.
      That said, just because everything is connected doesn't mean it's connected in a particular way. So it could just as easily be that difficult sorts of corruption have a common cause, rather than one inspiring the other

  • @Llyrin
    @Llyrin Před 4 měsíci

    I’ve always used that term is a different manner. Indeed, I’ve often said the Lord is a “come as you are” God. But I’m so saying, I mean that it is the invitation to come to worship. Come to the house of God, open your heart to Jesus, listen to what He has to say.
    The Lord doesn’t care what you look like, how much you weight, or what clothes you’re wearing. That doesn’t mean there isn’t work involved. The Lord will ask things if you, but the invitation goes out to all, and all are welcome to come as they are.

  • @evancawley3236
    @evancawley3236 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I'm that student watching this video 😂😂

  • @diegoborges3716
    @diegoborges3716 Před 6 měsíci +1

    We pray in the Rosary, as our Holy Virgin asked: "lead all souls to Heaven". Which doesn't mean that no one goes to hell. And many, many souls will be saved, but a long and painful purgatory awaits for them.

  • @Isaac_El_Khoury
    @Isaac_El_Khoury Před 6 měsíci +1

    Mr. Holdsworth, would you consider making a video on "the fewness of the saved"? I think you could articulate that very well as this is something that must be brought to the light more.

  • @johncox2284
    @johncox2284 Před 6 měsíci +1

    St Paul makes it clear that we are to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. He describes it as a race that needs to be finished. Jesus Himself says that we are to conform to the efaith, not the other way round.

  • @maltesefalcon92
    @maltesefalcon92 Před 6 měsíci

    Anyone have a link for that lantern Brian's got displayed in the background? TIA

  • @youtubeKathy
    @youtubeKathy Před 6 měsíci +2

    can you do some content on the fewness of the saved?

  • @albertoascari2542
    @albertoascari2542 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Very good talk

  • @femmina63
    @femmina63 Před 6 měsíci

    I love how you put in words what I’m feeling. A problem is that many people don’t think that the declaration is saying what some of us see; many people have told me that the document did not say you can bless illicit couples. It clearly does, although it says not in official ceremony, and do it in private. And then the debate continues and still does and everybody is confused.

  • @catholicguy1073
    @catholicguy1073 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Fantastic topic you covered today. 🙏

  • @joaniesart
    @joaniesart Před 6 měsíci +1

    Well said. Thank you.

  • @AlixInSalem
    @AlixInSalem Před 6 měsíci +1

    Come as you are, but definitely don’t stay and end up as you are.

  • @marie4585
    @marie4585 Před 6 měsíci

    SOUNDS LIKE OUR WORLD RIGHT NOW IN SPADES!!

  • @Corolla97ww
    @Corolla97ww Před 6 měsíci

    Enlightening. Good message.

  • @Jean_sans_peur
    @Jean_sans_peur Před 6 měsíci +2

    Read : The little number of those who are saved by St. Leonard of Port Maurice. Adjust your life accordingly ✌🏼

  • @dabhidhm4093
    @dabhidhm4093 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video, thank you.
    Dumb question: Where do you get your waistcoats? I want one.

    • @bobjenkins3rd
      @bobjenkins3rd Před 6 měsíci

      Go to a tailor and have him make one for you. They’re notoriously hard to fit otherwise.

  • @FanofAslan
    @FanofAslan Před 6 měsíci +1

    "Unless you do X, you will not inherit the Kindom..." is a warning that everyone falls short every day, and that we need the righteousness of Christ imputed to us. Changes in our behaviour result from accepting that amazing gift. The change in us is born of divine love bestowed on us subsequently requited.

    • @solesurvivor7989
      @solesurvivor7989 Před 6 měsíci

      My issue is that I'm taking Logos Spermatikos too far and enjoying Pagan aesthetics that I like like the music and good ideas of spirituality that aren't contradictory to the Logos and because I take my skepticism too far and I rarely agree with Christians anymore yet Christ and His teachings are still the most Holy and perfect thing we have and He is the only true eternal imperfect Divine masculine to worship it would seem and atheists also seem to go too far with dogmatic skepticism while pagans go too far with nature and death worship rather than veneration and respect those are my only issues and I don't know what Heaven and Hell means based on reading the Bible and hearing Christian's talking about it all day because we're all agnostic towards death and sin seems so subjective

  • @patchbeard
    @patchbeard Před 6 měsíci

    I've been dying to know what your intro song is

  • @delux0365
    @delux0365 Před 6 měsíci +2

    There's nothing wrong with the phrase, it's just incomplete. It should be "come as you are, leave a better person."

  • @abbyschubert5637
    @abbyschubert5637 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Tagline creds, @ Gabe Finochio?

  • @martinospitaletta8198
    @martinospitaletta8198 Před 6 měsíci

    Hell is an all inclusive, very diverse place with everyone welcome without any need for change! Like the Synodal church in Germany ....

  • @peterliggett5233
    @peterliggett5233 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Yes if you are physically fit you can unretire over the age of 65.
    The oldest truck driver, regional driving unretired at 67 and drove till the age of 92..

  • @fr.hughmackenzie5900
    @fr.hughmackenzie5900 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks. Wise men from the East were prepared to change direction, as shown by their perseverance to find the new born King and their taking a new way home. Herod's wise men, the religious leaders of the day, were not so prepared -- even to go ten km south.

  • @Topazdemonia
    @Topazdemonia Před 6 měsíci +2

    Wow what a loving god you worship

  • @MikeDPV01
    @MikeDPV01 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The Roman Catholic church does not believe its call to inclusivity and it's welcome to bless and walk with the people, most especially those in need of grace, will lead "all" souls to Christ. Indeed that is an individual's right to choose. But by walking with our brothers and sisters, whoever they may be, however sinful they may be, like you and me, the church will have dialogue with all people in the hope of conversion.

    • @kimfleury
      @kimfleury Před 6 měsíci

      It should be honest dialogue. Not deceitful.

  • @harleymann2086
    @harleymann2086 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Can you tell me what is wrong with this practice?
    The Priest can recite a simple prayer like this over two gay people:
    “Lord, look at these children of yours, grant them health, work, peace and mutual help. *Free them from everything that contradicts your Gospel and allow them to live according to your will.* Amen”.
    Then it concludes with the sign of the cross on each of the two persons. This is all *done in private.*
    We are talking about something that lasts about 10 or 15 seconds.
    Can you tell me what is wrong with this practice?

  • @rosemaryelliott5318
    @rosemaryelliott5318 Před 6 měsíci

    Very well spoken

  • @lewisthelibrarian
    @lewisthelibrarian Před 6 měsíci

    What's the intro song name ?

  • @harmonygordon6901
    @harmonygordon6901 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent video

  • @therese_paula
    @therese_paula Před 6 měsíci +2

    So, in heaven, all are invited...but entrance is conditional.

  • @ShimobeSama
    @ShimobeSama Před 6 měsíci +3

    People have this really hippy image of Jesus as someone who just accepts literally 100% of everything, and people who go to those churches have no reason to go to church if it's just going to say what all the corporations and governments are saying anyway, instead of what the Bible says and the churches historically taught. It's nice to hear someone say almost the exact opposite, that accepting everything is a direct path straight to Hell.
    In contrast, it's really hard in the modern day to think of Jesus as something, say, a warrior could invoke to inspire him to do better in battle, when although He is a symbol of mxrtxrdxm, he is also a symbol of an explicitly pacifist form of mxrtxrdxm. So Christianity is good for elxmxnating fear of dxxth, but not really for any of the offensive aspects of cxmbxt. And the "swxrd vxrse" is generally interpreted metaphorically, of course.
    But a stronger image of Jesus that does comport with scripture, etc. is that of a judge. To me, that's the only way I can inject any masculinity back into the religion in any way that seems viable for a young guy in the current year to live by.
    But then again, Jesus never commanded any humans to K or fxght anyone, and no one can claim to speak on behalf of God (right at the beginning of the ten commandments), so there still is no real Christian justification for wxr or K-ing that would make a modern Christian not doubt every single thing they do which they actually need to do in order to win.
    Especially now that the entire apologetics-industrial apparatus has been completely transformed in the modern age into almost 1000% a tool of convincing non-Christians that Christians aren't evxl or mean, and as a result of that, they haven't convinced anyone and the enxmies just double down, while worst of all the entire body of Christians themselves have been indirectly brainwashed by secular fxrces in the world via the secular-facing apologetics community into genuinely believing this watered down, biologically unviable (anti-viable even) version of their own religion that barely resembles what their ancestors believed and practiced and used to inspire them to survive and thrive.
    Instead it turns Christians into collectively s-cidal pacifists (even dragging down non-Christian co-nationals down with them) who define themselves purely as people who accept literally everything in the name of tolerance and pacifism, want to be replaced by foreign hxstile invxders who just have to say they're Christian to be preferred over much more patriotic co-nationals who are less (or not) Christian, and then be used by the state to prop up Mxrxism and post-humanism, or even worse when Christians embrace being replaced by people from a completely different hxstile foreign religion, and focus 10,000% of their political capital on fxghting against abxrtion and gxnder stuff and nothing else (which causes them to embrace being invxded by hxstxle foreigners even more, when the invxders happen to agree on abxrtxxn and gxnder stuff).
    If one religion says to convert the entire world by the swxrd BAMN, and then the other says to turn the other cheek 77 times and then wait 4 whole centuries to wage any kind of reactionxry counter-crxsxde, then it's obvious which will win in the long run. Especially if you look at the chronological order the religions appeared in, and that the later one specifically appears almost as if intentionally designed to counter and defeat the earlier one.
    If Christians are losing at literally everything by constantly appeasing cxmmies, anxrchxsts, and Mxslxms while alienating other parts of the political spectrum who support their religion but reject it out of disenchantment when all the Christians spend all their time appeasing the very people committing civilizational ethnxcide against them while ignoring the victims of the g-cide in such a way that accxlxrates it, then they're probably discerning the will of God a bit wrong, is what I'm mainly saying.
    Europeans evolved under 1 to 2 millennia of ancient and medieval selection pressure which can no longer be replicated in the modern world, and evolved as such while under Christian law and within a Christian worldview, so to completely discard the entire European gxnx pool as something useless, frivolous, even evxl, is to discard the long-term evolutionary effects of the entire Christian religion in and of itself, and do so in a permanent way that will never be reversed, and that in and of itself will be the long-term downfall of Christianity: its inability to defend even the physical existence of the initial people who converted to it and spread it around the world in the first place. (I thought the whole point of Jesus sacrificing Himself was so we don't have to, let alone have an entire arbitrarily-defined chunk of the human gxnx pool commit g-cide against themselves out of some kind of Jesus complex, as if their entire gxnxtic group is some kind of second Jesus that needs to be sacrificed for the rest of humanity; very weird.)
    The fact that all Christians would just buy into this and embrace it and help accxlxrate it is ridiculous, just because a bunch of cxmmies and people of hxstile fxreign religions who are g-cidal against them got control of all the West's corporations and governments and convinced them that their entire gxnx pool is inherently hxteful and must be phased out of existence to replace them with people who openly have declared g-cidal intent against them, and are the polar opposite and furthest from the cultural values that Christianity has evolved Europeans into instinctively promoting and living out.
    Hopefully though we can find some way to reframe this image of Jesus as a judge into something that is more faithful to the way that the original Christians in ancient and medieval Europe practiced and believed, such that the religion actually helped their nxtxxns survive and thrive, rather than accxlxrating any kind of collective s-cide as the religion is mainly used for by enxmies of the West today.
    I don't remember ancient or medieval Christians ever deciding to collectively at all levels of society replace everyone on their entire continent with hxstile foreigners of any type purely out of self-hxtred, so I have no idea why that's the "conservative" form of Christianity that's still mainstream today.

    • @Ransetsu
      @Ransetsu Před 6 měsíci +2

      This is A great post. Very insightful. Thank you!

    • @ShimobeSama
      @ShimobeSama Před 6 měsíci

      @@Ransetsu Thank you! Did you like any certain point in particular?

    • @ShimobeSama
      @ShimobeSama Před 6 měsíci

      If you think about it, in the Old Testament, who is the focus on the entire time (aside from God obviously, and all the thematic connections to Jesus, etc.)? If you had to pick one single name, you would probably pick the nation of Isrxxl, because that's the entire narrative and collective of individuals summed up with just one name.
      Christianity has individualist elements, but people forget that it is fundamentally a collectivist religion on all sorts of levels. People's fear of the concept of the new nation of Isrxxl causes them to take on all these collectively self-destructive ideolxgxcal ideas from the secular world dxstroying itself around us and implement those same beliefs in the church, warping it into the weird anti-reality inversions of itself it is today.
      Although acknowledging that the Biblical nation of Isrxxl and the current nation-state with the same name are two separate things (with some minor degree of spiritual overlap from a Christian perspective, and a massive, overwhelming overlap from a physical and biological perspective [Theology of the Body, right?]), despite that, it's still fair to say that the modern nation-state of Isrxxl is by far overwhelmingly the one single real nation-state on Earth that anyone would expect to embody the spirit and legacy of the Old Testament more closely (or at the very least even be attempting to embody) than any other nation-state on the planet, for many obvious reasons I won't bother to list.
      And yet, the second that some Cxthxlics become cxsxxlties in the Strip, the most authoritative human Christian on the planet IMMEDIATELY jumps to blaming Isrxxl without even suspecting the enxmy staged some kind of obvious prxpxgxnda op like they always do constantly.
      Both sides are accusing each other of g-cide, and the top Christian instantly, instinctively, and impulsively with no reflection or suspicion or contemplation unequivocally blames the J's who currently identify as being targeted for g-cide (more credibly than the T activists liberal Christians prefer so much), and doesn't even so much as suspect the M's for a second. It's like the thought never even crossed his mind. Very interesting. Almost like he's under some kind of dxmxnic spell or something. Technology-induced, perhaps. The internet. The liberals and lxftxsts who control it.
      So his instinctive reflex is to be a trxxtxr against the surviving physical/biological nation of Isrxxl (imagine if Jesus had descendants or relatives still alive and Christians supported what leads to them D-ing), and to support those committed to elxmxnating them to fulfill their sxck, twxsted religious prophecy.
      Does the Pope think the Ms are going to stop there?
      Is he not aware that Christendom is analogous to the new Isrxxl?
      Does he think the Ms aren't going to try and erxdxcxte anyone analogous to Isrxxl in spirit after they solve the biological component that all these misguided fundamentalists (who are all more true and accurate than each other despite disagreeing on everything; fundamental indeed) give zero crxps about.
      Obviously the physically surviving biological descendants of the OT should be kept alive if your religion cares about . Pretty weird they would flip over some random groups in Afrxca no one's ever heard of, but take the opposite side in this cxnflict of all cxnflicts, against this one group of all groups.
      Think about it. If the West pushes back and the Js win and the Ms lose, what is the risk of Ms suddenly no longer existing? Close to zero.
      But if the West only pressures the Js and helps the Ms win, giving the anti-Western lxft everything they want, then what is the risk all Js in the Holy Land will no longer exist? Close to 100% if it ever gets to the point where the defense forces cxllapse and everyone invxdxs them. The risk of the opposite happening in the opposite direction is zero.
      So the Pope and USCCB are siding with the army of wolves outside the fence over the lamb inside the fence.
      I think the confusion here is around the concept of sxcrxficing yourself to save your enemy persecuting you, vs. their apparent interpretation of sxcrxficing the Js on their behalf for them without consulting them first, and then also sxcrxficing the whole of Christendom and Western civilization (the latter part concerns me the most, personally), in order to save the Ms persecuting everyone (even the Hindus and Buddhists and atheists and pagans).
      Seems like a weird thing to do, sort of dxmonic almost.
      Especially considering that Jesus as a poor carpenter with just a few armxd followers was in the mxlxtarily weaker position vis-a-vis the local authorities, needless to say Rome at large, whereas the West and Christendom are in the superior position where we could stop a lot of the injustices happening if we really wanted to, or at the very least not import all the chaos and problems from the worst parts of the world and dxstrxy ourselves so we never have any chance of trying to uphold justice anywhere ever again.
      It's like the USCCB who work with mxss mxgrxtxxn NGOs to funnel as many people from M countries and Afrxca as possible are literally just welcoming the opening the gates to hxll to let it engulf the planet, rather than taking what little bit of heaven we have left and rebuilding it to spread it to the rest of the world.
      Should they just excommunicate themselves, or what?
      Their interpretation of the overall geopxlxtxcs of the Bible is almost as if they imagine the Js were in charge of Egypt and the majority population, and then let mxgrants in until they become an enslxvxd minority, and that's where the story begins, and the first half was a good thing that they just gave up everything voluntarily and got enslxvxd for no reason.
      Except in real life the West doesn't make it when we get to that point (probably century after the Js are gone pretty soon if the lxft keeps winning elxctions), and once we go down, the rest of the species goes down in rapid sequence after us. They won't survive the power vacuum and cxnflxcts between them with the tech that'll be out there by then.
      But that's exactly what they're having the West do right now. I can't think of any actual parallels in the Bible to what they're doing to us (including non-Christian Westerners who oppose this, just everyone in general), but I'm not an expert. Either way, it seems like they're doing whatever the villain in the story would be doing.
      I guess that's one way to interpret realpolitik in either the Bible or modern reality. No wonder America was founded on separation of church and state, if the church is having people who have zero understanding of political science, or even any kind of biology for that matter (young Earthers still holding out), interpreting the Old Testament and influencing religious pxlxticians with what they teach.
      Anyway, long live Isrxxl, or whatever, I guess. Either one, I guess.

  • @TheXone7
    @TheXone7 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Church welcomes all, yes...come as you are, but does not mean hell as some trads present. There is a BIG part of work done by Holy Spirit after they come. Don't forget about this part, because then you are not far from sedevacantists.

  • @Westyrulz
    @Westyrulz Před 6 měsíci +2

    Missed Mass today. First time in 20 years. Not sure if I will ever go back. If Sodomy is no longer a mortal sin how can missing Mass possibly be a Mortal Sin.

    • @kimfleury
      @kimfleury Před 6 měsíci

      In all seriousness, why did you bother to go to Mass for the past 20 years? If you don't believe you meet your Lord and Savior at the altar, why did you ever go?

    • @Westyrulz
      @Westyrulz Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@kimfleury Because I believed everything the Church taught. Now that the Sin that cries out for vengeance for has been given the 👍 thumbs up how can anyone possibly believe anything the Church has taught? How can something be true for 2,000 years and then not up to 3 weeks ago?

    • @jslizzle84
      @jslizzle84 Před 6 měsíci

      The church has never taught that. Sodomy is still one of the four sins that cry out to heaven. New Revelation died with St. Paul, come back to mass my friend, find a reverent parish that emphasizes truth.

  • @MM22272
    @MM22272 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Here is a theme song for what appears to be the general moral outlook of at least some of the clergy:
    Let the good times roll
    Let them knock you around
    Let the good times roll
    Let them make you a clown
    Let them leave you up in the air
    Let them brush your rock and roll hair
    Let the good times roll
    Let the good times roll-oll
    Let the (good times roll)
    Let the stories be told
    Let them say what they want
    Let the photos be old
    Let them show what they want
    Let them leave you up in the air
    Let them brush your rock and roll hair
    Let the good times roll
    Let the good times roll-oll
    Won't you let the (good times roll)
    If the illusion is real
    Let them give you a ride
    If they got thunder appeal
    Let them be on your side
    Let them leave you up in the air
    Let them brush your rock and roll hair
    Let the good times roll
    Won't you let the good times roll-oll
    Let the (good times roll)
    Let the good times roll
    Won't you let the good times roll
    Well let the good times roll
    Let it roll (good times roll)
    Let the good times roll
    Ooh let the good times roll
    Ooh let the good times roll
    Let 'em roll (good times roll)
    Well, let the good times roll
    (Let the good times roll)
    Ooh let the good times roll
    Good times roll (the good times roll)
    Let the good times roll
    Let 'em roll

  • @ThroughTheLensOfAutism
    @ThroughTheLensOfAutism Před 6 měsíci

    Is this asking us to think more of agape, rather than the other three loves?

  • @vivacristorey4363
    @vivacristorey4363 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Everything you said in the first half of the video was true. But the implication made that the magisterial document on blessings is asking for people to come as they are without repentance is bearing false witness. The blessing itself, as the document says, is intended to assist those who desire to fix their lives. Those who are trying or wish to try and simply ask for extra graces should not be turned down.

    • @harleymann2086
      @harleymann2086 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Yes sir. You are correct.

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 Před 6 měsíci

      You are bearing false witness. Section III of Fiducia Supplicans says "blessing of couples". And the newly released document doubles down on that. And James Martin SJ gleefully does just that all over social media, proving that this is a blessing of same sex couples as couples.
      Gaslighting is the same as lying.

    • @TheXone7
      @TheXone7 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I totally agree. Modern traditionalists are becoming very similar to reformers. They do not recognize the role of Holy Spirit in nowadays Church and want to do things how they want.

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 Před 6 měsíci +1

      You are bearing false witness. The document calls for blessings of couples as couples.

    • @sliglusamelius8578
      @sliglusamelius8578 Před 6 měsíci

      @@TheXone7
      Modern leftists want to remake the Church in their own image.

  • @gregorybarrett4998
    @gregorybarrett4998 Před 6 měsíci

    I think that the primary issue driving polarising discourse is the set of unspoken assumptions which bifurcates the universe of discourse. When my experience drives me to speak out against this oversight, distortion, and abuse, and your experience is of an opposite oversight, distortion, and abuse, then my cry rings in your ears as just another voice contributing to and in fact furthering the distortion and abuse.
    The hot button topic in the Church today concerns itself with fundamental questions of human identity and sexuality. Everyone recognises that it's an important topic, and that the Church has to get it right. What is right is that which will bring people back to a correct understanding and response.
    The problem is that the issue, naturally polarising, is already polarised, and many people neither know nor care that there are important things that must be done to bring people back to a correct understanding and response who are already moving away from the center on the opposite side from the forces the listeners themselves encounter. Not for the listener, but for such, the correct form of ministry is to push a message which would be harmful and damaging to the listener. Recognising the threat of harm to themselves and others like them, the listeners object to the threat that the message represents, which further justifies the ministry to a different audience.
    The solution is an act of faith that God arranges all things well, with perhaps the further consideration that you might be the support that God provides for those who need the support that you are able to bring.

  • @TheRealMagicBananaz
    @TheRealMagicBananaz Před 6 měsíci +1

    Come as you are, leave with a penchant to be better

    • @markpugner9716
      @markpugner9716 Před 4 měsíci

      Aside from "penchant" being a rather… fancy word in comparison to "come as you are," I like this line a lot.

  • @magikarp2063
    @magikarp2063 Před 6 měsíci

    I agree with the video but it seems to try to say the recent document about blessings is saying that the people blessed don't need to change when the blessing is explicitly described as something that should help the people recognize their sins and help them to change?
    But maybe I'm wrong and he's not talking about the document itself but how people are spinning it and similar things.

  • @nicolassimoni6205
    @nicolassimoni6205 Před 6 měsíci

    Hey Lay People, Catholic Evangelization meets people where they are at, builds relationships, and then shares the truth in love (Jesus) and gradually teaches the Tradition, Catechism and Vatican Documents. Jesus brings Salvation (Healing). Brian, you are a good man and I care about you but make sure you are solid and listening to your Archbishop and following the path of the Saints. I highly recommend Companion of the Cross Faith Formation training for you in these challenging times. It will take work, but it's needed to be more effective and proper. Reach out if you have questions; united in the Holy Spirit. Praying for you and may our Blessed Mother intercede for you and your family always.

    • @BrianHoldsworth
      @BrianHoldsworth  Před 6 měsíci +2

      If there's something lacking in my formation, it would be more helpful to identify it, don't you think? If I've said something that is wrong, then it should be possible to offer that clarification. Vaguely asserting that I'm not formed properly is not a helpful correction.

  • @tensorfeld295
    @tensorfeld295 Před 6 měsíci

    Without the sacraments it is impossible to change. So how should the a priori excluded people be able to change?
    It is not our own power and will that transforms us (sin of pride). We only can cooperate with the grace.
    We also have to consider the fact that original sin is not distributed equally.

    • @tensorfeld295
      @tensorfeld295 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Extreme example: a schizophrenic homeless person vs successful businessman

  • @ricardoheredia7307
    @ricardoheredia7307 Před 6 měsíci +4

    BRILLIANT!!!!!

  • @llamaluvr
    @llamaluvr Před 6 měsíci +1

    "All good things come through sacrifice" is so easily abused without some limiting principle to identify that not all sacrifice is good. It's not a given that a parent stressing healthy eating and exercise has a child's best interests in mind. Over-emphasis of these "good" sacrifices has quite often lead to body image issues, anorexia, and worse. Over-emphasis on the "goods" of prayer, confession, sacraments can manifest in sometimes debilitating religious OCD. The link between rejection by families and communities and increased rates of depression and suicide in LGBTQ folks is well-established. Far from there being some obvious line where this messaging results only in healthy introspection and positive changes, high control religion makes it possible, nigh easy, to justify inflicting even severe temporal harm, too-often including child abuse, under the premise that it's justified by an eternal good to be realized later.

  • @thedon978
    @thedon978 Před 6 měsíci +2

    And, in hell, everyone “loves” you just as you are; no need to repent and change your ways…

    • @solesurvivor7989
      @solesurvivor7989 Před 6 měsíci

      Assuming hell mentioned in the Bible is a state of mind and that it doesn't necessarily have to be a literal Dante's Inferno to make other people fear you for not interpreting the Bible the same way you do does it?

  • @trismegistus2881
    @trismegistus2881 Před 6 měsíci +6

    It is wrong to justify sinful behaviour but it is also wrong to condemn what is permissible. The clarification to Fiducia Supplicans of January 4 again states clearly that no doctrine has been changed, that no sinful union can ever be blessed, that no blessing can seem to imitate marriage... Yes, a priest can bless an irregular couple, but not in the way of James Martin or the German bishops. For me, Pope Francis and the Vatican are still orthodox (at least in Fiducia supplicans), and those wrongfully accusing them are undermining the unity of the Church.

    • @consecratedsoul
      @consecratedsoul Před 6 měsíci +5

      The fact is that a blessing has an objective reality of its own and thus cannot be redefined at will to fit a subjective intention that is contrary to the nature of a blessing.
      When we bless a couple we are blessing a relationship. When that couple is engaged in a public sinful relationship and has no intention of repentance, we are blessing sin.
      “God cannot send his grace upon a relationship that is directly opposed to him and cannot be ordered toward him. Sexual intercourse outside of marriage, cannot bring people closer to God and therefore cannot open itself to God's blessing.
      Therefore, if this blessing were given, its only effect would be to confuse the people who receive it or who attend it. They would think that God has blessed what He cannot bless. This “pastoral” blessing would be neither pastoral nor a blessing” -Cardinal Muller
      God will not be mocked.

    • @aaronvt9980
      @aaronvt9980 Před 6 měsíci

      ​​@consecratedsoul You're making a lot of assertions here. Care to site some sources regarding blessing a couple necessarily blessing their relationship?

    • @MystieK_
      @MystieK_ Před 6 měsíci

      @consecratedsoul I always find it interesting how people feel they have speak on behalf of God. He is incapable of Judging himself so I have to do it on his behalf on issues because I know what God consider a mockery of himself more than He does

    • @kevinezema6159
      @kevinezema6159 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@consecratedsoulMay I ask why in your part of the world, the divorced and remarried are blessed at the altar while others receive communion. What does that blessing signify? In my last of the world (Africa) divorced remarried catholics were not given this grace, nor polygamous converts to Catholicism nor anyone who felt they were not in a state of grace to partake in communion etc.
      You could not receive communion, you sat or knelt at the pews through communion time.
      You cannot give one set of irregular unions such grace and not give another set of irregular unions such grace. This is a pastoral approach not doctrinal.
      Imagine denying communion to single mothers, denying communion to parents that their children have left the Catholic church (usually symbolised by the childs marriage outside the church) Denying communion to parishioners who do not meet their compulsory contributions to the church. Draconian pastoral approaches I must say that we're being implemented by some dioceses. This is clearly misguided but had good intentions. It's clear every that with law we have, that humans can choose to abuse our not abuse it.

    • @harleymann2086
      @harleymann2086 Před 6 měsíci

      @@kevinezema6159my dear, about the blessing you are concerned with, the Church teaches there are many types of blessings; not just one type. Many people are focused on the “blessing of sacrament” or “blessing of validation”. But there are other types of blessings.
      The blessings in the FS Document is not the same as above. This blessing is for those who are beginning to realize their life needs a change to be more Christian, but they realize without God’s help they don’t have the strength make the change. This is a blessing for them to begin a conversation in life.

  • @Samson4G
    @Samson4G Před 6 měsíci

    Best title!!!

  • @robertajaycart3491
    @robertajaycart3491 Před 6 měsíci

    I know my Catholic Faith extremely well, that's all I need.

  • @richardconnors2404
    @richardconnors2404 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Truly inspirational- God bless.

  • @07triman
    @07triman Před měsícem +1

    The king invited to the banquet the rabble, this misfits, those who were considered 'other' Jesus honored the inclusion of the folks who were considered unworthy by people like you. Though Jesus says the greatest commandment is love, the evangelical belief in eternal torture has hijacked what Jesus wanted most - that we love. Instead you have mistakenly believed that the way to love the marginalized is by confronting them. The people Jesus consistently confronted were the conservative religious traditionalists who cast aside the marginalized and made them feel unwelcome in the church.

  • @MikeDPV01
    @MikeDPV01 Před 6 měsíci

    Which church are you talking about? You mentioned a church that emphasizes inclusivity is more in line with hell. But I'm not certain which church you're referring to. Certainly the magisterium of the Roman Catholic church has always emphasized inclusivity just as Christ would. However the Roman Catholic magisterium emphasizes walking with people and encouraging them in conversion of heart. This is precisely what Jesus reveals in scripture.

  • @TheGringoSalado
    @TheGringoSalado Před 6 měsíci

    Family members want acceptance of alcohol abuse, drug use, divorce etc. This is the default position of all sin: make Vice into Virtue and quell the cognitive dissonance.

  • @JesusRodriguez-gu1wv
    @JesusRodriguez-gu1wv Před 6 měsíci

    The Protestant position seems to be the same, with forgiveness full forgiveness, and continual forgiveness being given through faith. The sanctification process is not being the core of salvation.

  • @lonniestoute8762
    @lonniestoute8762 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Finally, I see you are in agreement with the Pope and the Magisterium. We accept those in sin in order to pastor them and encourage them into repentance and a closer union with the teachings of the Church and of Christ.
    Im so glad FS was released , to explain what you just said, to the Priest and Bishops who would encourage no change and offer only validation for peoples sins.

    • @p.doetsch6209
      @p.doetsch6209 Před 6 měsíci

      Nonsense.

    • @lonniestoute8762
      @lonniestoute8762 Před 6 měsíci

      @@p.doetsch6209
      What is nonsense?

    • @p.doetsch6209
      @p.doetsch6209 Před 6 měsíci

      @@lonniestoute8762 All of it. You misunderstand FS. It was only issued to enable homos to receive a blessing as a couple. This is the opposite of calling them to holiness.

  • @kevinezema6159
    @kevinezema6159 Před 6 měsíci

    The divorced and remarried, the polygamous(african problem that's becoming rear now among Christian converts) The not married and sexually active. Engaged but living together and the homosexuals are all irregular unions. All mortal sin along with private mortal sins of the congregation that should be confessed as they reconcile with God. The church has always blessed these categories of persons. Priests do not refuse to bless usually, now they have the conditions for how they can bless the above categories without scandal is we done in Germany and by fr Martin and others like him.

  • @StNicolausVI
    @StNicolausVI Před 6 měsíci +1

    Brian I am not trolling here I seriously have two questions. I am Traditional Catholic, playing a bit of Devil’s advocate. Firstly, working out at the gym is in and of itself an occasion of sin; most secular people work out to look good for their partner(s) and they take steroids. There are women dressed scandalously there. Everyone at the gym wants to fornicate. And I myself have experienced greater temptations of sexual pleasure when taking pre-workout, creatine and protein shakes. I cannot imagine even a Catholic women NOT being sexually attracted to a fit and muscular Catholic man, the same that a Catholic and secular man are attracted to the female figure. Can you present a case where working out is NOT for sexual pleasure, in this day and age where men are no longer warriors? (Especially when you told them to go read books). I have talked to dozens of men and women both Catholic and not, and they agree having a good body is physically and sexually attractive. I then do not know how to reprogram my brain to allow for this type of sexual desire because I categorize it as lust not love. In fact an argument can be made even via the Trent Cathechism that we all are born in sin of lust even under marriage. Marriage is the constraining of our lust to one person only in the presence of God. It’s not love; love is as you describe, wishing the best for the person even when that means they should leave you for a better husband who works out at the gym more.
    Secondly; I hear Catholics say “become a Saint” all the time. And I get frustrated because a canonized Saint 95% or more of the time is a CELEBATE priest or nun. That means to be a Saint, you have to refrain from sex and go through the process of the Sacrament of Holy Orders. Are you simply saying that all people in heaven are Saints? I have never heard this. A Saint is a canonized Saint not simply a random person in Heaven. They have not performed miracles and they gave in to lust in the form of the Sacrament of Marriage instead. How do you explain that people should work out so they can look sexually attractive to women, and then go become a canonized Saint by not having sex with a women that likes your six pack?
    My answers would be yes; working out is so you can lift things and move your children and fight but you cannot escape the fact that most people work out to get a partner that likes to have sex with them. It is lust and it should be restrained in marriage, but by doing so you give up the potential to enter religious life and become a canonized saint. You cannot do both.

    • @bobjenkins3rd
      @bobjenkins3rd Před 6 měsíci +1

      It really depends the type of workout and setting. On my lunch breaks, I’d do barefoot sprints in a field. The next day I’d fast and do squats, planks, pushups, and pull ups in a park. Relaxing walk the next day. Passersby might notice me and have a brief hello or conversation but certainly not temptation. I suppose my advice would be to appreciate God’s creation while exercising and follow strict fasting rules. You won’t be huge and that’s ok.

    • @StNicolausVI
      @StNicolausVI Před 6 měsíci

      @@bobjenkins3rd Fair enough; you can work-out from home and outside, and you can do cardio and calisthenics all day but not everyone can afford a set of weights or exercise from home (roommates and landlords forbidding or complaining). Still I wonder what is your aim when you exercise? Why? (Just curious about your motivation, I understand most reasons are obvious). Btw, I love fasting on Fridays (only water/tea/coffee no sugar/cream added) but I try to keep it a secret, lol.

    • @bobjenkins3rd
      @bobjenkins3rd Před 6 měsíci

      @@StNicolausVI general health including getting sufficient daily sunlight and nightly sleep. Mostly following the “primal blueprint” diet which also incorporates some lifestyle changes. My immune system is waaay stronger after making those changes. Primary reason for me personally though is injury prevention which enables me to participate in more fun activities, play with my kids like a kid, etc. I have a long history of injuries and surgeries so regular physical therapy is essential just to stay normal. Mind, body, and spirit for me are very connected. I tend to fail or succeed on all fronts together. Productivity and flexibility with my time since I don’t need to eat every few hours and the primal blueprint exercise plan is part of unlocking that. I could go on lol but you get the idea.

    • @bobjenkins3rd
      @bobjenkins3rd Před 6 měsíci

      @@StNicolausVI by the way, weights aren’t required either. Push your car in parking lot in neutral facing it and facing away from it. Go to a park with bars. Lift a rock. I pull my kids around fast in the back yard in a hunting sled lol. Real movements tend to be more functional than isolated stuff with weights anyway. Combining balance with strength uses less or no weight as well… single leg deadlift or squat on a balance board for instance. Jumping exercises.

  • @nancygagne5905
    @nancygagne5905 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Thank you Brian for telling the TRUTH!! Great podcast!! 👍🙏