What all the haters aka perfect carpenters out there are failing to listen, see, realize and understand is that there are different requirements for different chairs. Depending on where you live, ADA-codes are not the same. Manual and electric chairs have different rise requirements as well as different minimum width requirements. Also, if it does not require a permit then so what! Also for example, outdoor home ramps and general public-use ramps require permits and code compliance. This is neither! This is inside a garage with less than an overall 30" drop if not a solid 3' from the threshold to solid ground. This man NEVER mentioned anything some folk are hating on and complaining about. If he, the builder, (and homeowner) are good with what transpired then its not the federal, state, county nor local city's prerogative on how it "looks" because code is not required....because it is inside a dwelling and not for general punlic use. Its about functionality and safety and had you ever built these inside a garage off of lower rising existing stairs then you'd know by looking at this that is in incomplete, yet on its way toward being great. Yes carpenters know rise and landing requirements, for ADA. Im also certain this pro understands chair- ramp width and landing sizes for chair turns, etc. We all know a chair and door width isnt 4 feet, so neither does this non-code compliant project have to be. Thank you for the video! I heard every word you said. I trust your work because you unlike other peeps here have major kahunas to post your work vids!! Much props and Im sure homeowners are pleased!
I'm a volunteer for a non-profit organization and we build up to 50 handicap ramps per year. This ramp is not even close to being ADA compliant. The slope is too steep and there needs to be a level platform at the top of the ramp. There may be other dimensional issues with the width of the ramp as well as the corner landing pad...he doesn't say what width they are.
I ran a back ground check on Thomas George Noeldner, I would not allow him to work for me for $0.065 let alone $65, he cuts too many corners and does not know what he is doing.
If the slope is greater than 2:12 for an ASSISTED wheelchair ramp then you are correct. Otherwise if it’s 2:12 or less, then the ramp is compliant as long as the individual in the wheelchair is being assisted up/down the ramp. Plus this is residential, therefore it does not have to comply with ADA.
My dearest sympathy to you and your Ohana as well! It's not easy. I'm watching your video to build a ramp for my Dad too, who is also on Hospice. Even though he has stage 4 Chest Cancer he's still full of life and wants to go outside. I really hope I can pull this off? His only wish is to be outside with his beloved cars. Afterall he's always been a Greasemonkey 😁. Mahalo for your video. May Jehova watch over you and your Ohana!~~cc
Hey Tom I've been watching your videos for a while now and I know you take pride in your work your a true Craftsman. Nice start on the ramp hope to see the finished product and more handyman videos. That is why I subscribed to your channel because I was just starting a handyman business. So thanks Tom for the info you share on the labor side and business side.
@@davidgliszczynski9318 I answered that one. Because after doing 500 handyman videos, in the last 4 years. They got boring to me. I just wanted to look into other topics.
@@tnoel374 Oh okay I thought the critic's got on your nerves lol well I've enjoyed them. Maybe set the tripod up and put the video in fast time with some music in the background to make it more fun for ya lol.
it would have been nice to see how and why you did the cut at the top of the stairs on your template board and how you anchored it to the steps. The intricate things at the beginning of a project is real important to the DIY beginners like me.
Mr. Noeldner, George, Thomas, whatever his name is, obviously does not care. He seems preoccupied with cutting corners, trashing some well build, rust resistant, well built, with appropriate slopes and landings, as he walks down the street to trash the nice, robust, to or above code aluminum wheel chair ramp. Figure on a 42" flat landing extending from the top threshold, then measure distance to far wall, subtract at least 36", add remaining space to ramp along the wall to calculate 7 degree slope to get the ramps from garage floor to corner landing (probably going to be 10 to 12" higher then this bass fisherman to provide 7 degree slope from door to landing, then from landing to garage floor. One does not need too much common sense to see that there is plenty of room to do it once, do it right.
This could not have been easier for him. He just screwed into the existing wood stairs. if you never did it before, all you have to do is cut the template out of cardboard against the existing steps and keep the top surface one inch below final surface of the ramp for the thickness of the ramp deck, then transfer that template to the real wood stringers.
Also building a ramp for a handicapped person is an honor not a job 😊. It's not a job because your helping, helping people who need it. God Will Reward You With A Blessing. Thank you for helping and building good quality projects for people who need help. How nice it must be to be able to walk or even run, we sometimes take thing for granted in life like being able to walk on our own . Jobs like this seem to put things in perspective and make us realize how important life is. I know your heart is in this job. Thanks Mr Tom👍
One thing about how you're doing it in the garage is this winter it won't be iced over..the metal will be slick..so I think the one in the garage will be much better Tom! 💖💖💖💯💯💯👍👍👍
It depends whether it’s for assisted or unassisted wheelchair access. An assisted ada ramp has a max ratio of 2:12. An unassisted is 1:12 ratio. This is also in a residential building, meaning it does not HAVE to be compliant with the ADA. Just like residential buildings do not have to follow fire codes for stairwells like commercial buildings.
Im in a wheelchair and that ramp is to steep it should be 1 inch drop for every foot. My porch is 5ft high on a sloped yard my ramp is 82 ft long with 3 landings and its so gentle you cant tell your going up a hill.
Yes, an assisted wheelchair ramp is a 2 inch drop for every 12 inches. The 1:12 is for unassisted. It’s also residential where they do not have to comply with the ADA.
I do this kind of work here in Pennsylvania. I typically charge around $50/hour. I work 6 hour days. I think im going to up my rate. What do you think?
It's funny all the haters talking about yours being so steep... They sure didn't watch and see the aluminum ramp down the street... Have a great day...
It’s awesome, your work flawless and no way do consumers want that ugly metal “ramp”! You have real skill under your belt and carpentry is far more advanced and appreciated over that hideous metal system the other house has
word of mouth goes a long way , i rebuilt a deck in Wakefeild 2 weeks ago already have 2 more to do on the same street . luv your videos watched most of them
Tom I was ready to criticize your work but I'm not. It actually looks good and I'm quite surprised. The threshold issue, couldn't you put a piece of plywood to about the height of it? The reason I stay so busy is because word of mouth from customers and what I charge, I don't like hitting people over the head too hard with my bids. I give a price that makes both sides happy. Today I had a sheetrock repair to one of my clients and I ended up picking up a new client because she said the lady I'm working for is very picky so I must do excellent work lol. I tell you senior citizens are my best clients, they always have something needing done wether cleaning the garage bringing boxes down from the attic to painting the whole house. Seniors will always keep you very busy. Great job Tom keep it up and make sure to always use tape buddy.
how could anyone be so nasty to dislike this video? well... there are also people who dislike Trump... Good men almost shouldn't help the world they get nothing for it
I built a ramp for my wife, who at the time was using a walker, from our driveway to the house with a deck between the doors. I made the handrails the height my wife was comfortable with using. The ramp is 40 ft by 4 ft. all supported by 2 X 6 and screwed together. It is supported by 4 X 4 posts on concrete. What you have built so far looks good. Build to suit the owner.
I wasted 12 minutes listening to this man run his mouth about what a great handyman he was and never gave much info on how to build the ramp as is the title of hid video
Hey man I went to this video to find out how to build a ramp for my wife and you talk too much about what you're going to do and what you did and everything else you need to stick with the video that you're doing not what you did or going to do have a good day
Dang I wish I could get in on that, I’m on next door as a handyman, unfortunately some of the clients are unable to afford the services. I’m a rockstar when it comes to Carpentry, I was a lead carpenter in the past
@@tnoel374 I thought when you mentioned Rolesville & Youngsville you were from the Raleigh area. I live and work out of Pulleytown Rd. near Mitchell Mill. I too have stayed busy for many many years in the area just from word of mouth. I have never advertised. My work is my advertisement, I don't even put up signs. I should get my truck painted with company name and phone, but I just leave each customer with some extra business cards. I worked for 8 years solid in Cary in what started to be one custom cabinet install and turned into 8 solid years of custom cabinetry in the Cary area. I also spent a number of years in Wake Forest on the historical homes remodeling. Finally got up to UNC and started doing additions to homes. Quality work, good work ethics and word of mouth goes a long way!! Nice to see another Tarheel keeping the trade alive. Too many people with a truck and a hammer out there.
Not impressed. You have the ramp out of the door too steep and the ramp to the floor not steep enough. Should have done some math to figure out proper slope.
What all the haters aka perfect carpenters out there are failing to listen, see, realize and understand is that there are different requirements for different chairs. Depending on where you live, ADA-codes are not the same. Manual and electric chairs have different rise requirements as well as different minimum width requirements. Also, if it does not require a permit then so what! Also for example, outdoor home ramps and general public-use ramps require permits and code compliance. This is neither! This is inside a garage with less than an overall 30" drop if not a solid 3' from the threshold to solid ground. This man NEVER mentioned anything some folk are hating on and complaining about. If he, the builder, (and homeowner) are good with what transpired then its not the federal, state, county nor local city's prerogative on how it "looks" because code is not required....because it is inside a dwelling and not for general punlic use. Its about functionality and safety and had you ever built these inside a garage off of lower rising existing stairs then you'd know by looking at this that is in incomplete, yet on its way toward being great. Yes carpenters know rise and landing requirements, for ADA. Im also certain this pro understands chair- ramp width and landing sizes for chair turns, etc. We all know a chair and door width isnt 4 feet, so neither does this non-code compliant project have to be. Thank you for the video! I heard every word you said. I trust your work because you unlike other peeps here have major kahunas to post your work vids!! Much props and Im sure homeowners are pleased!
I'm a volunteer for a non-profit organization and we build up to 50 handicap ramps per year. This ramp is not even close to being ADA compliant. The slope is too steep and there needs to be a level platform at the top of the ramp. There may be other dimensional issues with the width of the ramp as well as the corner landing pad...he doesn't say what width they are.
I ran a back ground check on Thomas George Noeldner, I would not allow him to work for me for $0.065 let alone $65, he cuts too many corners and does not know what he is doing.
If the slope is greater than 2:12 for an ASSISTED wheelchair ramp then you are correct. Otherwise if it’s 2:12 or less, then the ramp is compliant as long as the individual in the wheelchair is being assisted up/down the ramp. Plus this is residential, therefore it does not have to comply with ADA.
ADA Standards only apply to places of public accommodation and commercial facilities, NOT to private residences. Education is awesome!
Interesting ramp set up..
The lip in the garage opening is to keep water out during a driving rain.
And I didn't see a photo as well of that job?
How did u do the angle cut!! No videos of that.
Sorry your right there is no videos of that
My dearest sympathy to you and your Ohana as well! It's not easy. I'm watching your video to build a ramp for my Dad too, who is also on Hospice. Even though he has stage 4 Chest Cancer he's still full of life and wants to go outside. I really hope I can pull this off? His only wish is to be outside with his beloved cars. Afterall he's always been a Greasemonkey 😁. Mahalo for your video. May Jehova watch over you and your Ohana!~~cc
Hey Tom
I've been watching your videos for a while now and I know you take pride in your work your a true Craftsman. Nice start on the ramp hope to see the finished product and more handyman videos. That is why I subscribed to your channel because I was just starting a handyman business. So thanks Tom for the info you share on the labor side and business side.
Your welcome David, glad you get great info from my videos.
@@tnoel374 If you don't mind me asking why are you not doing as many handyman videos?
@@davidgliszczynski9318 I answered that one. Because after doing 500 handyman videos, in the last 4 years. They got boring to me. I just wanted to look into other topics.
@@tnoel374 Oh okay I thought the critic's got on your nerves lol well I've enjoyed them. Maybe set the tripod up and put the video in fast time with some music in the background to make it more fun for ya lol.
Thank you you were very very helpful sir.
it would have been nice to see how and why you did the cut at the top of the stairs on your template board and how you anchored it to the steps. The intricate things at the beginning of a project is real important to the DIY beginners like me.
Mr. Noeldner, George, Thomas, whatever his name is, obviously does not care. He seems preoccupied with cutting corners, trashing some well build, rust resistant, well built, with appropriate slopes and landings, as he walks down the street to trash the nice, robust, to or above code aluminum wheel chair ramp.
Figure on a 42" flat landing extending from the top threshold, then measure distance to far wall, subtract at least 36", add remaining space to ramp along the wall to calculate 7 degree slope to get the ramps from garage floor to corner landing (probably going to be 10 to 12" higher then this bass fisherman to provide 7 degree slope from door to landing, then from landing to garage floor. One does not need too much common sense to see that there is plenty of room to do it once, do it right.
This could not have been easier for him. He just screwed into the existing wood stairs. if you never did it before, all you have to do is cut the template out of cardboard against the existing steps and keep the top surface one inch below final surface of the ramp for the thickness of the ramp deck, then transfer that template to the real wood stringers.
@@maxwaters1461landing should have been twice as high.
Where is the photos of the completed job?
FYI, this is not ADA compliant. There needs to be a 5x5 landing at the top of the ramp. Ratio for the ramp is 1:12.
ADA Standards only apply to places of public accommodation and commercial facilities, NOT to private residences. Education is awesome!
Also building a ramp for a handicapped person is an honor not a job 😊. It's not a job because your helping, helping people who need it. God Will Reward You With A Blessing. Thank you for helping and building good quality projects for people who need help. How nice it must be to be able to walk or even run, we sometimes take thing for granted in life like being able to walk on our own . Jobs like this seem to put things in perspective and make us realize how important life is. I know your heart is in this job. Thanks Mr Tom👍
One thing about how you're doing it in the garage is this winter it won't be iced over..the metal will be slick..so I think the one in the garage will be much better Tom! 💖💖💖💯💯💯👍👍👍
The idea of putting it in the garage was perfect, and your comment about snow and ice is dead on.
Right on Tom. Word of mouth is the best advertisement. Good work speaks for itself and so do happy customers.
Yes sir Tim word of mouth is powerful. Make or break a company.
The Ramp you built is definitely not ADA compliant it’s too steep.....and I know it’s what the customer wanted
Well Dan you know best.
Its very hard to push your self up a ramp that steep
It depends whether it’s for assisted or unassisted wheelchair access. An assisted ada ramp has a max ratio of 2:12. An unassisted is 1:12 ratio. This is also in a residential building, meaning it does not HAVE to be compliant with the ADA. Just like residential buildings do not have to follow fire codes for stairwells like commercial buildings.
raven sunn that’s why it’s called an assisted ramp, meaning the person in the wheelchair has to be assisted.
ADA Standards only apply to places of public accommodation and commercial facilities, NOT to private residences. Education is awesome!
Im in a wheelchair and that ramp is to steep it should be 1 inch drop for every foot. My porch is 5ft high on a sloped yard my ramp is 82 ft long with 3 landings and its so gentle you cant tell your going up a hill.
This is in a garage so the space is limited. The the person using the wheel chair is being helped by an assistant.
Yes, an assisted wheelchair ramp is a 2 inch drop for every 12 inches. The 1:12 is for unassisted. It’s also residential where they do not have to comply with the ADA.
Great call on the inside the garage ramp, that helps them in privacy and security
Yes when she saw the other ramp is was a hell no, I don't want that in my front yard.
I do this kind of work here in Pennsylvania. I typically charge around $50/hour. I work 6 hour days. I think im going to up my rate. What do you think?
Yes up your rate
@@tnoel374 Thank you
I have the hardest time with notching the wood! I either notch it too much, or not enough.
Yes i so understand it's all about measuring it a lot.
It's funny all the haters talking about yours being so steep... They sure didn't watch and see the aluminum ramp down the street... Have a great day...
Thanks Mike your right so many hatter's, and yes they didn't see the ramp down the street.
So Tom, how long did it take to build the complete project? Thanks!-!
2 DAY 16 HOURS.
How long was ramp including corner? I have to bid a ramp for a customer & am unsure what to charge...Thanks for the info!!!
@@chuckthetech 65 per hour plus materials is what I went with. 10 x 16
Not to be nosy but do you recommend marking up materials or is that going too far?? Thanks!!
@@chuckthetech That is a very grey area my friend. VERY GREY BE CAREFUL. YOUR TIME IS YOUR MONEY, NOT THE MATERIALS.
What is the slope of the ramp? Is is within ADA requirements?
ADA Standards only apply to places of public accommodation and commercial facilities, NOT to private residences. Education is awesome!
how come you didn't take the steps and handrail out first?
Because this is temp situation for homeowner. The house will go back up for sale, and I will pull out the ramp when house goes back up for sale.
what is a good ball-park budget to have this done at my home?
The lumber cost about $500 labor $900 including handrails. $1400.00 installed.
What was the slope?
Great idea, you need to focus on needs and nitches
Thank you for your comment.
@@tnoel374 Your Welcome. My mom needs a ramp, but I am positive you are not near me, lol I guess just plywood won't cut it.
@@bugsea54 Where are you what state???
@@tnoel374 Michigan
@@bugsea54 To cold for me to go there LOL. You got this.
Is that pressure treated wood or what type of barrier are you putting between the concrete and wood
Yes Matt all pressure treated lumber.
Great videos tom keep them coming when you going to start on the cabin
@@tnoel374 sure does not look like it
Still Watching Your Videos After 2 years, Wow Time Goes By Fast, 👍👍
It’s awesome, your work flawless and no way do consumers want that ugly metal “ramp”! You have real skill under your belt and carpentry is far more advanced and appreciated over that hideous metal system the other house has
Thank you very much for your kind, and nice comment JewDd*89
word of mouth goes a long way , i rebuilt a deck in Wakefeild 2 weeks ago already have 2 more to do on the same street . luv your videos watched most of them
There you go my friend, see it's not hard to get business.
Tom I was ready to criticize your work but I'm not. It actually looks good and I'm quite surprised. The threshold issue, couldn't you put a piece of plywood to about the height of it? The reason I stay so busy is because word of mouth from customers and what I charge, I don't like hitting people over the head too hard with my bids. I give a price that makes both sides happy. Today I had a sheetrock repair to one of my clients and I ended up picking up a new client because she said the lady I'm working for is very picky so I must do excellent work lol. I tell you senior citizens are my best clients, they always have something needing done wether cleaning the garage bringing boxes down from the attic to painting the whole house. Seniors will always keep you very busy. Great job Tom keep it up and make sure to always use tape buddy.
Thank you Issac for your compliment, and yes older customers if they like you will keep you busy. Drive on.
Why didn't you show how to make the cut
I don't do how to videos.
Ramp slope still needs to be within ADA guidelines, whether one can see it or not.
ADA Standards only apply to places of public accommodation and commercial facilities, NOT to private residences. Education is awesome!
U enjoying these chilly mornings
Yes I love a bit of a chill in the air.
That landing should be MUCH higher. 1:12 minimum is code.
how could anyone be so nasty to dislike this video? well... there are also people who dislike Trump... Good men almost shouldn't help the world they get nothing for it
Trump is a sexual predator so who wants to like Trump
I built a ramp for my wife, who at the time was using a walker, from our driveway to the house with a deck between the doors. I made the handrails the height my wife was comfortable with using. The ramp is 40 ft by 4 ft. all supported by 2 X 6 and screwed together. It is supported by 4 X 4 posts on concrete.
What you have built so far looks good. Build to suit the owner.
Thank you Roy for your comment, and compliment to sir.
I wasted 12 minutes listening to this man run his mouth about what a great handyman he was and never gave much info on how to build the ramp as is the title of hid video
Hey man I went to this video to find out how to build a ramp for my wife and you talk too much about what you're going to do and what you did and everything else you need to stick with the video that you're doing not what you did or going to do have a good day
Dang I wish I could get in on that, I’m on next door as a handyman, unfortunately some of the clients are unable to afford the services.
I’m a rockstar when it comes to Carpentry, I was a lead carpenter in the past
Yes the area you live makes a big difference.
MR. FIX-ALL INC. I’m on south side of Raleigh, but all my work comes from Fuquay, Apex and Cary, and New Hill
@@handymaninside I used to work the eastern side of Raleigh, not any more all Northern Raleigh.
@@tnoel374 I thought when you mentioned Rolesville & Youngsville you were from the Raleigh area. I live and work out of Pulleytown Rd. near Mitchell Mill. I too have stayed busy for many many years in the area just from word of mouth. I have never advertised. My work is my advertisement, I don't even put up signs. I should get my truck painted with company name and phone, but I just leave each customer with some extra business cards. I worked for 8 years solid in Cary in what started to be one custom cabinet install and turned into 8 solid years of custom cabinetry in the Cary area. I also spent a number of years in Wake Forest on the historical homes remodeling. Finally got up to UNC and started doing additions to homes. Quality work, good work ethics and word of mouth goes a long way!!
Nice to see another Tarheel keeping the trade alive. Too many people with a truck and a hammer out there.
let us see what it looks like when it's done. thank you
I just uploaded the ramp system, hope to enjoy the results. I want to see your comment on the next video.
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This should be called “How to talk a lot and not really show you how to actually build the entire ramp”.
I thought this was a how to this this kind of entertainment don't do anything for me.
Im disabled, and sorry but for some of us the term Handicap is quite demeaning, i know its not meant to be but arghh it is
Too much yakking, I’ll find a different video.
Thanks
literally
This landing is a crash site.
Lol
Talk bout how you build a deck ..too much rhetoric
Not impressed. You have the ramp out of the door too steep and the ramp to the floor not steep enough. Should have done some math to figure out proper slope.
Too much chatting and not enough doing
This was a total waste of my time.
Good glad you enjoyed watching this video.