Edie Sedgwick ConVersation w/ Andy Warhol
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The introduction of this News audio speaks about Andy Warhols style of Film making & Edie Sedgwick's method of Non-acting. Edie Sedgwick & Andy Warhol have a conversation about filming the next day with Ondine & Don Don (Donald Lyons). I've added all the clips and photos for the audio. Later you hear how they are on the streets of New York in front of the factory , then they arrive at a Cafeteria. Edie & Andy comment on the hour that they will show up & how Edie is always Late.....Edie asks Andy for Gravy on her noodles, Warhol asks the waitress for Gravy on the Noodles for Edie..Edie laughs. - Zábava
I could listen to her lovely voice all day long. :)
I had no idea Edie was so assertive. In this conversation she's really challenging him on his film-making decisions. It sounds like she doesn't want to waste the following day at The Factory, whilst Warhol dithers about. She's really challenging him here, asking what, who and what time he's planning to film, trying to nail him down to an actual plan. She was clearly really bright, what a loss!
I agree totally. I would have loved to have seen what kind of career she may have had.😢
I saw Sienna Miller's performance in Factory Girl. It is uncanny how Ms. Miller absolutely nailed Edie Sedgewick's voice. Listening to this you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Sienna did a good job. It was just a terrible movie.
Why was it terrible? I thought it portrayed well Edie as an innocent and yet adventurous and troubled young woman in the narcissistic Warholian world. She suffered terribly, if that’s what you mean …
There was such a sincerity about her. She’s so in the moment
She's always living for herself and so high on dope.
@@househeadericmdhousehead9118 well, do you mean any less than a person her age?? She seemed to be searching to me.
Her aura Her voice transcends time
Wow! Sienna Miller really aced the voice!
She did an amazing job. What a pity the film was not well received when it was released. It's a good film, accurate or not.
Odd to hear Andy actually engaging with someone.
Not if you remember that he was much more open and outgoing before he got shot (and nearly killed) by Valerie Solanas in 1968.
@@Heartbeat214 she was also a radical feminist which are more common these days.
Only woman he ever loved next to his mother.
@@Heartbeat214 That seems to explain why his long-time boyfriend, Jed Johnson (who got with him after he was shot) claimed that Warhol never shared anything personal with him, despite the number of years they lived together.
@@christinawhitley5298 curious why you think he treated her as he did then?? It seems he used her and then spit her out. Makes me sad actually… she was so unique and open to life.
Ohh Andy, I can watch documentaries about you without ever getting bored, It's magic!
"okay, I can get up at eight. I didn't say I couldn't." hahaha I love how they talk to each other.
She deserved more than this!
This man helped her shining like a diamond but ruined her life!
I agree. I don't think her 15 minutes were worth the fame but I think her issues were a lot deeper than him. He provided the stage for her fall.
Her voice and her face was magical
I might be completely wrong, and I'm sure someone will tell me why, but I kinda regard Warhol as a self promoting artistic vampire who made a living by being associated with others who were more talented or unique. Not to say he wasn't talented, that soup can was spot on.
I have had the same sentiments about him.
Artist surrounded himself with beauty he never physically possess
edie's voice is like butter
Edie had a beautiful voice, so husky, yet elegant.
I used to walk my dog Mr. Duffy with Andy, my partner knew him through Le Cirque and he lived one block away. Quite a sweet guy and always so kind to Duffy. I was 19 and I suppose he was 50-something.
'Can I have some gravy on my noodles?'
no one will ever really know what it was like damn
"well we should say 11 then [...]"
"but then that means you have to get up at 8"
"ok i can get up at 8, i didn't say i couldn't"
you tell him, edie
Edie sounds like having such great confidence in herself....why did she let it slip away??
Her past caught up with her and when Andy rejected her she fell into drugs. At least as depicted in Factory Girl.
I think she was so vulnerable and unfortunately predators seemed to sniff that out and use her for self interests at her expense. Makes me upset with Dylan, of whom I’ve been a fan for years.
Sienna Miller and Guy Pearce totally have their voices down pat! :DDD
It sounds to like she wants to be rather generous to the other people rather than hog the scene for herself, but Warhol was all about her. Also, I love her speaking voice.
Well, he said that there was only one girl he ever truly loved and many believe he was talking about Edie.
They were so fabulous. I wish I could have known Andy
I'm with ya on that one. i can't believe some of the comments here. Warhol influenced so many people's careers! Edie, unfortunately, had a drug problem that she couldn't overcome. Not Warhol's fault.
Here I am in 2017 watching this. I find them both interesting....the art, the lifestyle, the ongoing controversy that surrounds them both. And this was so long ago! Which speaks to the huge impact his art will always have. Whether you love or hate his art, it will always matter and keep them BOTH relevent.
Reality movies before reality tv
She has a face that's unforgetable and very unique, I've never seen a beautiful girl with exactly her look and style. One of a kind
Good God Edie's voice is so nice
passiveMenis New England smooth. (Even if she was from Santa Barbara California)
Happy birthday, dearest Edie. She was a truly brilliant person.
MowgliX I don't get the brilliant part
That is comic. She was a spoiled little rich girl. She was famous without actually accomplishing anything. Just like Warhol.
@@viviandarkbloom100 She was spoiled, yes, *but* remember that she was also destroyed by money and whatever traumas she went through as a child. People numb themselves for good reason. People fail at living a quality life for good reason. Mega-money, and the power that it brings, corrupts people/families.
@@Heartbeat214 The combination of wealth in her life plus the traumas that were intimated in the film and running across Warhol seemed to be her downfall. Her brothers also died by accident and suicide. She had her 15 minutes of fame though.
Did he start the reality tv?
renee: Yes. He was the first that I know of whose movies were just "let people be themselves and film it." Of course, there was a big gap between the last of those kinds of films and the start of reality TV. But I'm pretty sure that the folks who made things like MTV's "The real world" had watched some Warhol films.
sounds lik she was a bit smarter than him actually
hiasnhias a bit? A LOT MORE✔️
Not at all. Just my generation, 60 years ago. Stop idolizing ignorance.
I think she may be more dominant and maybe impatient with him but when it comes to intelligence I think the overall picture needs to be considered. Regardless, dominance is not intelligence. Dissention is not intelligence.
Any individual opinion of Warhol to me seems irrelevant as his influence and complete understanding of American narcissism and disposable culture has proven to be deadly accurate. He understood celebrity, fame, and the insatiable desire and neediness of vacuous types like the Khardashians and the dupes that worship them. He mastered the concept that "the medium is the message" along with McLuhan. What this clip shows is that he even predicted internet Cam-Culture....
💥
I don’t think he was against it he celebrated it. Everybody being famous means nobody’s famous. He commented that the wonderful thing about Coca-Cola and Campbell Soup was that the bum on the street could consume them where the president could consume them then they got the same can.
@@kitrichardson5573 my favorite quote by him
Sienna Miller NAILED this voice
love this great to hear it!! thank you for making this
andy got a little attitude from edie there for a second lol. and that gravy thing was cute lol
Guy Pearce nail it in his portrayal of Andy
That was brilliant!
Gravy on noodles is sooo Pittsburgh.
Excellent. Real life at it's best and most interesting. Unscripted conversations that happened in real life between two of the most famous people of all time. My favorite part of the video is when you can hear the actual Factory phone ringing in the background while Edie and Andy are talking. So glad someone recorded these real-life conversations between these 2 most important people because they would have been gone forever the second after they happened never to be heard again.
This is a wonderful add....great convo of Edie and Andy, sound quality is good too. Thanks Miapink!! :-)
She doesn't really give him a chance to finish saying anything!
This is awesome, thanks for the upload.
I like her voice
Warhol seemed happiest with Edie. I don't know why everyone says he threw her away, ever consider if it was more the opposite? One day she was just gone and Andy was the one left saddened and alone by it.
I agree. When he didn't deliver the fame and money she was hoping for, she left him for Dylan and drugs... Both of which left her in an even sadder state. He seemed to have had a broken heart and a permanent change in character after she left.
he also said she was closest to love he ever felt
@Eide Lahe in that era mental health meant nothing. not an excuse but you must you understand the times they came from
A 5 1/2 hour film of a man sleeping? So Warhol basically invented Big Brother?
"In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes." - Andy Warhol
Do you mean TV's Big Brother, as a opposed to George Orwell's? I think Warhol did see real people bumbling about as more interesting than scripted drama. He didn't quite take it to BB, but I'm sure that's what he was on to.
Orenge: The story of Andy Warhol's "Sleep" is evan weirder than it seems. He intended to film poet John Giorno sleeping for eight hours. But his camera would only film for two minutes at a time before needing to be reloaded for two minutes. So in the end, he got four hours of films. So he slowed it to half speed to make it seem like eight hours. So people were spending eight hours watching a stop-gap film of a guy sleeping in slow motion.
A friend of mine who saw it said that the fly buzzing around the camera became the most interesting thing in the movie, the real star of it.
Reality tv loooong before it was popular ! They were ahead of their time ,,
I adore her voice!
In 2011 interviews,Robbie Robertson said that after The Band joined Dylan in '65,he lived at the Chelsea Hotel while in NYC the same time Edie lived there.She liked hanging out in Robbie's room.He said Warhol would come 'round looking for Edie,& if she wasn't in her room, the desk would try Robbie's.She'd often want to avoid Warhol, & would tell Robbie to say she wasn't there.Robbie's '11 song "When the Night was Young" refers to this, naming Warhol & referring to Edie as "the late night muse".
Hermesacat I wonder why she tried to avoid him
They do have similar voices, even though Sienna has a British accent. And in real life, Sienna has the same sweetness as Edie. Sienna is a very hard worker and very intelligent and compassionate. I think that's why she pulled off the role so perfectly. I think Factory Girl was her best movie.
I love when Ondine says "Fabulous" the way he does. Ha, and then Edie goes, "Before anybody picks on us, we better hurry." :D
Well put, Pink. I always enjoy reading your responses. :)
I LOVE edie's voice....sienna miller NAILED it!!
Edie was the producer of this film, that’s what this sounds like!
i love her voice
at 4.04 the conversation in the cafe..' the bread and wine really looks the best', ha ha ha some cafe
This is true, on an emotional level. He could obviously be very distance and cold sometimes and she would just pour her heart out.
Some one asked Why does the West see this as beauty and called her a skinny little girl with black make up?
1. We want to sleep with her.
2. She's not a dumb blond (nor am I) aqnd we want to sleep with her.
3. three, she's beautiful and we want to sleep with her
4. even though she rich we want to sleep with her.
5 she's our friend
i've been reviewing the different works of Andy's different superstars and Factory Girl was my first exposure to Edie (before i even was looking into all of that). as mixed as the movie's reviews are, i have to say Sienna did a really good job of mimicking Edie's vintage NE aristocratic accent and aura in general, just from listening to these tapes, seriously.
God bless you Edie.......
"Could I have some gravy?" "... Some gravy on my noodles."
I like her. there was a kind person within her. obuadhaigh
She seems extremely argumentative with him. Perhaps simply opinionated...
Wow Keira Knightley looks really good in this video!
It's magical! I am a French fan of Andy Warhol, I sing his life and his death. Warhol's Word!
Sienna did a great job
What I'm getting from this is that Edie's artistic sensibilities were considerably sharper than Andy's. Also, she was a far better person.
absolutely not. That conclusion is from one of those people who can't tell what makes a femme fatale. She is good at reading other's thoughts and put them in a assertive and attractive way as a socialite's habit. While artists are way awkward and hard to get their idea through. She has a great sense too, but not of the artistic realm.
Nope. Edie would not be remembered today were it not for her presence in Andy's Factory scene. And for all his talk about "superstars", Warhol was the only real star in that firmament. He also worked, hard, while Edie was little more than a socialite wastrel who lived off her family's money and died of an overdose while still in her 20s. She was an interesting character, for sure, but not on the level of Warhol.
Andy didn't work hard. He had other people do the work for him
anwahs
Sure, he used other people, but he did work hard too.
Warhol was creepy had no personality he used people and when they where no longer fashionable he changed them in.
Edie is so cute, she's just magnificent!
@minskie She did a good job of imitating her voice and mannerisms. I think Sienna is a good actress.
@MowgliX Also, her husband was in charge of dispensing her medication. Part of the reason she married him at that time was b/c she couldn't be released from the hospital w/out a live in nurse . She said" Here I am 28 years old, how do you think it makes me feel when someone says you have to have nurses living w/ you? It makes me feel like I'll never get well"They wouldn't discharge her from the hospital w/out a live-in nurse & that is a lot of why she married him.
she actually sounds less manipulative, more practical & less bs in re to getting something done then warhol.
I think maybe Warhol was just playing games and seeing who he could manipulate in to going along with him. He got famous and from doing what? He must have thought he was running a big con job on people the whole time. Unfortunately he was playing with peoples lives.
I know I love it! I could recognize her voice in a crowded area, she's so great.
she had the sienna miller's same voice
+Dolores haze Probably one of the reasons why she played Edie in Factory girl.
Sienna Miller copied Edie's voice😉
The world was beautiful with Edie in it
She sounded intelligent when she wasn't full of drugs. Her death is very strange. She told her husband they not be together forever and he was in charge of giving her her meds. Then she overdoses that night. Plus he was a former mental patient from the hospital where she stayed
Andy's genius was the gravy on his noodles.
Andy Warhol likes gravy on his noodles
He was probably eating beef stroganoff.
I love how anything he made was amazing. Even a 5 hour long video of a sleeping man. Or a drawing of a **** on the moon!
I thought she should have been up for an Oscar or some recognition, definitely her best role yet
I need someone to be the Edie to my Andy
Yeah sure.
Andy was a POS
+NoNeed ForGreed I just watched "Factory Girl" again last night. If that was truly how he treated Edie, then SHAME on him! He used her, and ignored her, threw her away ..the way the movie was. I felt horrible for Edie. js.Imagine how she must've felt walking in, getting ignored by her once group of "friends!" & the restaurant scene where they were making fun of her, is sad af. Take care.
@@beckystarrski It wasnt accurate at all. almost every bit of factory girl wasnt true.
@@beckystarrski Movies like that are full of b.s. and things that never really happened.
I'm in love with Sedgwick and she's been dead for how many years.
I KNOW RIGHT!
no i made this when i posted it..i downloaded the audio...is that what your asking?
Warhol idea on a film still being on screen while ur not looking is actually pretty genius lol. If u work at a music recording studio and have something playing on the tv ur gonna miss 80-90% of whatever is on the screen. But something like a Warhol film is perfect becuz when u look up , the picture is still there lol kind of like that idea tbh
If only she had the following in life that she does in death. George Plimpton is the only reason we remember her today.
that was amazing!
God I love that voice.
she has a gorgeous voice! amongst other things
I download them split them up and put them together again..=D
Ah, that was fantastic!!! I had seen another video with the same conversation but it was very fuzzy and the slide show didn't have the same appeal this one does. Her voice is amazing, like mine when I'm "mellow". ;) Good God Bri, keep up the good work, I just can't get enough!
sienna miller plays her soo well..and the voice!! god its the samee...
I got dowloaded the Audio...I put together all the clips and pictures from my own collection
She couldn't inspire Dylan's version of this generation because there isn't one. Edie, the time, the culture of the '60's is all gone, there will never be another era like that & never be another Edie....for any generation. She was just totally unique from the way she brought up, the era, etc. Not all of it good, a great deal of it bad, but totally unique.
can i have some gravy on my noodles?
Who's narrating? A Woody Allen impersonator?
John Giorno: the poet and the man filmed in Andy's "Sleep."
Sounds like him. I thought it was him too😂
at 4.04 the conversation in the cafe..' the bread and wine look the best', ha ha ha some cafe
I think they were talking about Restaurant
The only reason 90% of the people are in these comments is you think she's cute. If Edie was a normal looking girl none of you would give a damn about her
@Chafey4444 >>They Did REcord & You Listen, and proceed To Watch (LOL,* and I'm Really Glad You keep visiting to watch =D
Edie also directed movies & photo shoots. She was brilliant, according to L.M. Kit Carson, Lou Reed, & many others. No one will call Paris brilliant in her lifetime or anyone else's. She was the inspiration for Dylan's Blonde on Blonde, which contains some of his most famous songs, although her relationship was with Bob Neuwirth, Dylan's right hand man. It's insulting to mention Paris & Edie in the same breath!
December Leigh Paris who?
Edie did have a relationship with Dylan first. He could not commit to being with Edie due to his relationship with Sarah who he later married. Edie then began to see Bobby Neuwirth.
"Can I have some gravy on my noodles ?"
Mmmm.....gravy! I liked this because it's real and raw. To me this is more interesting than staged dialog or performances.
at 4.04 the converation in the cafe..' the bread and wine look the best', ha ha ha some cafe
Oh do you happen to know what film they are discussing?