Jason Cammisa on the BMW M4 GTS - Vintage Motor Trend Ignition Full Episode 162
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- čas přidán 1. 04. 2022
- Full review on the F82 BMW M4 GTS, including track test, road test, and a speed-bump test.
And an explanation of water injection that forced me to go in a hot tub in my racing suit.
Also, little known fact: water spots from the sprinkler scene ruined the GTS' Frozen matte paint. I felt awful, and tried everything I could to get the spots off. And so did BMW. But so far as I know, the car was effectively totaled.
The risks of filming, I tell you. Sorry, BMW.
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This video was uploaded as part of Jason Cammisa's professional showreel and portfolio as a writer, on-screen talent, and precision driver. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Only recently came across Jason and his videos on Hagerty, I really like his sense of humour and narration style. I'm so pleased to see he has his own channel and uploading his older content from a defunct channel, I wouldn't have seen them otherwise and each one has been great so far.
Same. He’s now my favorite
I’m the same. Have you listened to his Carmudgeon podcast?
@@vintagetractorsaustralia Some yeah, I'm more the scripted content like these, Revelations and Icons though. Hagerty recently picked up another of my favorite presenters too, Henry Catchpole after the unfortunate demise of Carfection.
„we give bmw a hard times theses day about a lot of stuff, but one thing they nail is the styling“
I miss those times…
These days, their styling is more hit or miss (unless you're buying an SUV, but in that case I have less than no sympathy for you), but they do nail a bunch of other stuff now.
The new M240i and M5 looks good. Thats about it.😅
I’ll give them the m5 cs that’s it
@@mohammedfuadh9096 New 2 series is awful - those "inlet" headlights, fucking random triangles and "folding lines" on fender flares. It's such a regress compared to previous generation, especially as M2.
M340 or 3 series in general is pretty nice
Wild, I was literally thinking how MotorTrend went from THE car CZcams channel to being practically irrelevant, and now all the formally paywall episodes are being uploaded for free. Love to see it
Personally, I think the M4 GTS is one of the best looking BMWs
It sure is! But the performance is not great.
@@voodoodiecast would love to know what tires they were running. Treads looked pretty deep on those. Street tires on a track car is a sin
That's a pretty low bar LOL.
That rear spoiler is goofy as hell my dude. And the orange is about as opposite as you want on the M colors. I personally hate that it looks like an 18 year old threw some aftermarket stuff on it and BMW decided up upcharge the customer by like $40k to have it..
Been following Jason for over a decade, his reviews are always amazing and dude's a talented genius, the american JC - Jeremy Clarkson with the engineering brains of Richard Hammond. I still can't believe that he doesn't have his own show.
I've been trying to remember where I know him from. What is your oldest memory of him?
I always loved the fact that you were wearing the race suit the entire time 🤣
Out the hot tub, into the tank! Stop playing cammisa!
I could never forget that thing about the splitter being low
You’re the GOAT for uploading these old vids. ❤️🔥
The next generations will drool over these cars and spend countless hours rewatching these videos… including this one
Been looking for this video after it got taken down from some other channel. So dope
This was one of my favorites from you!!!!! Glad you reuploaded it
I remember when this first got posted. Loved the wheels then and love them now
So glad to see this episode again after all these years!
I was still old enough to remember coming back from middle school to see cammisa and lieberman fuck around oh man these two made me the car guy I am today
omg this video is finally back on youtube. motortrend private'd this video and I could not watch the hilarious criticism on this car for the longest time. thanks for the upload.
You just don't know how much I've missed your videos. So happy that you uploaded them, keep 'em coming, please!!!
I still remember all the angry people flaming Jason for wringing the water from his suit into the tank and munching the splitter, ah man his reviews are the best.
Jason always delivers to bring insightful information about the vehicles he reviews. Sometimes it sounds 'techy' but explaining complicated things always sound better with a comedic undertone kudos!!!!!
Thanks for uploading this, I really love this video and have been searching it for a while. I don’t know why they removed it from the motor trend channel
Motor Trend on demand took away joy
I hope to see the Shelby GT350R video soon with Cousin Bob lol.
Was wondering what happened to this video after all these years. Thanks for re-uploading Jason !!
I don't know why so many people dismissed this car entirely when it came out. It's better and faster than the standard M4, it's hardcore on the track and unlike what other manufacturers do with special editions, BMW actually put some effort into making this drastically different than the regular car. And it looks STUNNING!
The beef isn't with the GTS, but with the M4 in general. It's like BMW stopped making sportscars and started making muscle cars. Camissa even compared it to a Camaro
@@AvidUTuber clearly don’t know cars
Whenever there's a vid from Jason, its a good day.
So happy for this new channel Jason. Keep the great content coming. Great work. Gr yaris. You know what to do
The F82 M4 is the best looking BMW ever
You clearly don't know your BMWs
@@AvidUTuber yeah you’re right my opinion should be exactly like yours
Not my opinion. I'm yet to see a list of Most beautiful BMWs ever with F82 M4 at the top
@@AvidUTuber Literally your opinion, don't care about a list of others opinions?
I slightly prefer the F80 M3 more but yes, the F82 & F80 are the best looking ///M cars.
One of the best looking modern beamers out there personally. Love this thing. Too bad they're rare and never gonna be driven
omg you uploading all of these videos is so awesome! Love it.
One of my favorite ignition episodes
Jason please keep up the great work and upload more videos
I loved Jason's gt350r review
Watched this on motortrend and here and it feels like its the 1st time...really enjoy yor videos jason
Awesome vid. Well done as always
I missed this video so much :))) thank you man I love your work
As an (ex) die hard Mercedes-Benz fan, owner or 3 of those(in the past), I have to admit that BMW have captured my imagination! It looks manly, is performs manly, it is manly! ... Next car for sure.
I still remember when these first came out. They retailed for $135k and people were listing them ~$60k over sticker. NOBODY bought them, because they weren't worth even the retail; and now they can be had for ~$65k used (or up to $90k with only 1,000 miles).
Cheapest one is at 85,000 with 29,000 miles. More like $95,000 to $120,000 right now. $150,000+ in Europe. Need to update your figures.
@@jean-pierred1094 yes you got the right numbers compared to him. What’s your guess on the values of these M4 GTS’s in 10 years?
@@sleepeatdrive7619 Definitely over MSRP and may be closer to the M3 gts prices.
The M3 gts did not come to the US and was made in lower numbers but is now selling over $200,000. Going up every year…
I see the M4 Gts between $130,000 and 170,000 in 10 years for average mileage. Higher for really low miles.
Impossible to know for sure…
I'm getting one once I get my shit together for sure.
Man, looking at that car reminds me how far BMW has fallen in the looks department today
Okay, JC is hilarious. Hot tub in a race suit, dripping all over the car. Sarcasm and facial expressions!
Been waiting for this!!!!
Excellent summary - a true opinion review and 100% agree
Amazing discovery your channel !!!! Congrats! Please review the Roma (know you already did but not this way)
Great job
From Argentina 🇦🇷
Keep it up
The c6 z06 went around laguna in 1:34:43, let that sink in. And you can have one of those for under 40k these days
"Luckily that piece is cheap" - no M car owner ever
Waiting for the second gen NSX review, you got me to love that car.
really? huh
hopefully the review of the manual V12 vantage Will come as well. one of my favorite all time reviews!
Best video on youtube wow thank you jason!!!!@@11!!!!!!!
the track comparison is great, amazing to see the GTS braking better and accelerate faster. Grade A content. What is the the Cammisa ideal blend of M4 and the M4 GTS?
Hey Jason! About the Waterinjectionb ehm, Saab 99 Turbo were given that, too....if you asked kindly in Swedish for it......& put Swiss francs on the counter.....
I loved this video and was so sad, when it got offline.
Omg I just cried when you scraped
Where do I know this man from?!!!! It's driving (ha) me crazy!!!! I don't believe it's Hagerty, I think it was before that. Have always liked him.
You probably have seen him in You Don't Mess With Zohan
Very creative video... fun. :)
BMW is really cool
“Vintage” makes me feel old 🥲
Great video as usual, Jason! You never fail to entertain and educate. What’s the car you’ve driven that has the best steering feedback? I recently went from an STi to a Giulia Quadrifoglio. The Giulia, while insanely fast, doesn’t provide quite the same feedback as the STi. I understand one is hydraulic steering rack while the other isn’t but surely the difference can’t be that big? In fairness, the Giulia (used) came with Michelin AS3+ all season tires instead of OEM Pirellis. I wonder if that’s the issue. Anyways, thanks for the upload!
Italians tend to make up for the lack of steering feedback with an insanely quick rack coupled with a great chassis. If you want to feel everything, try a 997 or 987.
I love the Giulia BTW, it is truly special.
@@stevemiller1626 Thanks for your reply! Good to know. I don't have a lot of references in regards to vehicle feedback and dynamics as I've only owned these two cars. I thought the Giulia would be an upgrade in every possible way but that's not the case. It's just better in different ways (oh the looks and the engine!). I should definitely try more cars😄I hear so much good stuff about Porsches.
Looking for your Ignition episode with the Bentley Continental GT3 R
7:28 the people just backing necks lmao
Wait... when did you starting hiding in your own channel.
Subbed, Bell rung...
Love this car. Still overpriced. And thanks for all these throwbacks, Jason!
Still? 90k over priced?
Nah I’m getting one soon they around 60K
@@akeamtomlin198 you can't find an M4 GTS for 60k. The lowest they're going for right now is mid 70s.
I'm legit surprised you're allowed to re-post these without MT being candy asses about it, seeing as how all of their video content is now behind a paywall.
These recent uploads feel like a farewell song to ICE performance cars. I hope EV makers remember the recipe sooner rather than later.
...And compared to the Alfa Romeo Giulia GTAm? What lap time?
the sarcasm revs so high,,😂
What's your thoughs on the Veloster N Jason?😌
I don’t quite get this car. I mean if you got a regular M4, put Cup2Rs on, KW suspension and unlock the engines and gearboxes performance through software no way it would be slower, or at least no way it would not be a lot slower and you’d be able to pass on the dorky OEM look of this car with the front splitter and the orange in the wheels and the little wing (I’m not sure if I like the wing yet).
Oh and on top of it all it would probably be cheaper that way too
I bought my SS 1le because of the MT/Randy - loved it. Still one of the best steering feel to me and fun, not to mention performance on the track. It's uglier now but still a crazy value.
Do you have the gt350 video is one of my favorites
Oooooh more JC content off Hegarty.... YES PLEASE
Love John cryers car review videos
How i miss ignition a d head to head, i miss
It sooo much!!
BMW styling less so these days ... Great series of vids new to me.
Cammmisa!!! Review the GT4 RS!!!
hedraulic steering?no option for manual?
Injecting water into the intake? I actually had this fuckin idea a little while ago and had no idea someone thought of it Kerry alone did it. Crazy
I think there’s one listed for 95k with a salvage title for some major failure issue.
It seems like the non-competition M4 and GTS were basically neck to neck until the corkscrew.
What set up did you used for the coilovers ? Given that this is a track car you have to know the right set up for that track specificly , so I doubt you've extracted the most from this package. I saw some M3 GTS on Nurburgring and there was no faster Camaro Z... or Mustang gt.... This car is 911 GT3 RS teritory in terms of laptimes BUT ONLY if you know what do you do with the settings.
Luv me some Jason, but can't agree with him on that being a good-looking car. Video is tremendous as always...
V12 vantage S 7 speed dogleg manual vid? Please?
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The BMW burble fart tune is ridiculous
Loved all the water in the edit but it looks like it ruined the paint 😭
It 100% did. I still am sick to my stomach over this, all these years later. The sprinklers went off mid-afternoon while we were inside eating lunch, the sun came out, and when we came out, the paint was permanently etched with water spots. The car was never used again for press purposes. Awful.
The perfect job doesn't exi...
HIRE ME!! 💯
4:29 Austin Yellow M4 LOL
Porsche 911 991 GT2 has water injection too.
Wait no reverse camera?
Nope. BMW made rear cameras optional to boost profits, and it's only available as part of a premium package. Until they were made mandatory after a few hundred kids were backed over. But anyway, how many race cars have rear view cameras? Oh wait, even NASCAR has them this year.
It seems Porsche listens to what their customers want, with an ear open to what car enthusiasts like. You'll have to pay a heavy price, but they have one for you. BMW listens to what it's customers want, without enough pride to pull off a legend. What enthusiasts want. A Legend = This car, with a manual, back seats, not quite as low & (as this show has mentioned) focus on feel, not the stop watch. This is purely a 1:1 scale model car. Something to collect, not to
" DRIVE".
This is an old episode....Is this M4 in a 2022 model???
This is ancient video.
Something about them doing everything possible to make the car annoying for the sake of *hardcore enthusiast* and it not being a manual I just couldn't get past...
track cars on streets ...
terrible choice for a street car,
but great track day weapon.
Jason, please please please please please please please please please please please please please please, pretty please, pretty please with sugar on top, pretty please with sugar and cherry on top, could you re-upload video from MT, exact title was: 2017 Aston Martin V12 Vantage S: A Dogleg Makes This Sports Car Even Better! - Ignition Ep. 155. Idk why but that review gave me the greatest goosebumps I've ever had. Just a perfect camera angles, sound and feel, provided by you, of brutal old-school power. Hope you are going to read this message and give at least some kind of answer 🙏 🙏 🙏 😉
I didn’t know u have a channel
Love Jason but I can't help but see and hear Jon Cryer every time I watch one of his videos :)
Vielen Dank fürs hochladen, Ihre Head2Head und Ignition Tests sind bis heute unerreicht!
Sie haben mit Ihren Videos maßgeblich zu meiner Entscheidung beigetragen Fahrzeugtechnik zu studieren.
Die deutschen OEMs sollten viel stärker auf die Aussagen von Reviewern wie Ihnen hören...
OLEDs make the best lights AND tvs.
These American cars you’ve said which are faster than the M4 GTS are only fast on the laguna seca in the real world. They are not!
Yeah, I hated this video back when it came out because of the dissing and misinformation.
Overpriced car, 1LE camaro and GT350R i rather have. Its like its a track car for posers
I remember one was in BMW dealership in my local town in Wolverhamptom in England for months and months
Reminds me of SavageGeese.
Jason, can you please do a video on the 991.2 GT3 6MT similar to how you did the one on the 911R?