All these bridges have railings that are lower than the seat of a bicycle too.. It's very much just an accident waiting to happen, and it could easily result in death as you probably will be flying off the bridge with your head first towards the ground. I hate these bridges.
We've had them in New Zealand for at least three decades but now that there's been a lot of talk about them, they're screwing them up. Bloody bureaucracy.
He is a jew not a Dane.. and some Italian bridges are still taking traffic after 2000 years,.. I dont think any other country can make the same statement.
Oh boy we have plenty of experience with Italian products. I mean the State railways ordered a 100 strong fleet of intercity trains from Italy... they were faulty and one of those 100 trains somehow made its way into the hands of Gadaffi in Libya without us knowing and still having paid for it.
@@cirkuspolle I'm Welsh. Dutch will be my third language. I'm learning Dutch because I love Amsterdam, but I was reminded of how nice both Amsterdam and Copenhagen are by this lovely video. Have a nice day :)
I crashed so hard into the glass On my longjohn first time i crossed lillelangebro. There were no lights, no signs, and no color on the glass. Behind every sign there’s a story
Thibaut Crépelle uh... you strike as a person how doesn’t need to encounter bridges in your daily life, trust me bridges matter. I live on a key that needs to connect to the mainland via a bridge and every time the local government decides to add or change a bridge the community gets super heated. Bridges significantly decide how your life is lived when surrounded by water.
CZcams be like : "Do you know Copenhagen ? -not really... -But do you use bicycles ? -Not at all. -You know what a bridge is ? -hum.. yes... YOU'LL LOVE THAT VIDEO ! " And I loved it.
London's infamous "Garden Bridge". £45,000,000.00 of public money wasted. But that's Boris. Spent hugely on massive Covid treatment sheds that got no patients because there were never any doctors to staff them. Wasted millions on 'bendy buses' in London that had to be removed when they caught fire. Gave sweetheart deal to a bank to supply bikes without fair competitive tender. Allowed a contract for a ferry company that had no boats! You've got the Donald, we've got the Johnson and he's a big one at that.
@@lawrencesimmons5093 Another bridge is required in London - and it was cancelled by Labour partly because it was considered it might be a monument to Boris. Bendy busses are a Labour innovation, they were called 'monstrous' by BoJo due to the increased instances of cyclist deaths and were replaced by the new routemasters (which are expensive but are still the most popular busses in London which you can see time and time again in surveys) Regarding the covid 'sheds' additonal capacity wasn't required, there were a few trial patients who were there to make sure that the systems could work if they needed them, fortunately the NHS didn't get overwhelmed (as initially predicted). Doctor friends of mine who volunteered on the covid wards and due to work there were stepped down as they weren't required. The bikes were sponsored by and paid for by barclays, incidentally they were furious because they were called boris bikes, not barclays bikes by the public. They declined to renew the contract and they were replaced by HSBC who are paying less. The ferry one is retarded but the contract was awarded by Chris Grayling not Boris.
Oh, get real. Our roads are oriented towards vehicle traffic and your bicycles just don't fit in. You were once limited to just sidewalks, but you kept running into pedestrians. We now let you onto the streets where others, protected by metal vehicles, have a reasonable chance of avoiding injury by you. Lol.
@@dwightstewart7181 jesus if your attitude is typical of a New Yorker it sounds shit. Aren't your footpaths already some of the most crowded? Who would think it would be a good idea to mix cyclists with a crowded pedestrian street. What you do, and I know it's a fucking really crazy idea I don't even know if anyone has thought of this before but, you give them their own lane, separate the different major traffic types, foot traffic, cyclists, and road traffic. I don't know how people haven't figured out that more bikes means less car traffic to contend with which means easier drives for you in your metal cage. Why do you think of bikes as your enemy when they actually help you get where you're going faster by not taking up another car length on the road. Promote cycling and your drive to work will be better.
@@GloveSlapnz It's because the rules of coexistence are not fair. . The cars are required to see where they can't and to yield to people coming from blind spots, or from multiple direction, and be ready to brake and disrupt even a slow pace to take into account bycicles, who can, by contrast, ride faster than their brakes say it's safe and basically ignore traffic rules. . The reason is simple: cities aren't build for bycicles (zoning, mostly), and bycicles are terrible long-distance vehicles, all in all (hot or cold weather, dirt and mud, rain, little space for objects, sweat...). No wonder that in ALL countries, at some point, people have abandoned it as soon as they could to buy a car. . But, not everyone can have a car, or things won't work, so bycicles have been brought back. And to make them more appealing than they were if they were treated equally, they have been given countless advantages, some of which are even contrary to safety. Or environmental protection (most of the strategies used to discourage cars are punishing for cars and for the environment, and don't take into account the idea of making the bike a better vehicle rather than bashing the car). . Plus, the people who cycle around can be as a**holes as the ones driving cars (and the countless youtube dashcam videos from around the world show it perfectly), particularly in NYC, so what is achieved today is to divide people and make them angry toward each other, by saying to them that "rights over safety" and "guilt until proof" are good things. . BTW Copenhagen is not an exception: I've driven and walked there. When I was driving, cyclist came out from every corner and I had to yield to people coming from my blind spot (which is idiotic), to the point where I had several of them passing right behind me as I was reversing with blinkers on to turn around and get out of a dead end in a small street (I hated each one of those uncaring bas**rds popping in the limited view of my back window), and as a pedestrian I got several of them zooming by at high speed in pedestrian areas, just inches from my face. Way to be safe... All that was unfair, and quite a lot. The answer is to build cities that do not need cars, cities where bycicles are a good way of transportation, and make things fair (and more separated bike paths).
@@mortenfrosthansen84 Eh, it's quite forgiving due to how cheap tunnels are the penalty from building elevated roads is also very small. It won't look good, but it's relatively easy to fix traffic by building something that would be too expensive in reality. In my first game I've build tunnels under entire downtown area's just to get a few trucks out of them.
@@TheEtueify I agree. It'z crazy that all these years after SimCity4 is still arguably the best city planning and administration game. C:S is for sure a better city building game, but it's way too easy in those other respects
@@tomasmesen True, Though at the same time, Simcity never had properly expensive tunnels either. It's the among others the flat max tax and such in Cities Skylines that makes it that fiddling with stuff is generally making the game easier rather than needed. You can spend the entire game outside of the managing part if you want to and only lose a little income. At the same time Sim Cities industrial traffic is much more forgiving than cities:skylines bizarre amounts of industrial traffic but when you get offices later game you're suddenly avoiding making as much industrial so the game get's easier for a while...
@@TheEtueify good tips.. I did experience, when having pockets of industry, where ground was useful, the jams startet appearing. I mainly widen roads, or build a vast metro system. So people don't use cars, but takes like 40 windmills. Didn't think of tunnels for the road. What I learned, is to start with big road grids, and actually keep it square and boring..
You can get a boost over that bridge by going over another bridge that starts from an elevated point. It's a little bit risky as you have to be careful of crossing and/or unobservant (tourist) pedestrians.
As others have said, that's not too uncommon of a speed. And it indirectly shows the one major idiotic feature of that bridge, which Mikael is missing here... 99% of pedestrians *have to* cross the bicycle lane before crossing the bridge, with a fair amount of risk of being run down by someone like that guy. Because someone brilliantly decided to have the pedestrian walk on the left side of the bridge (seen from the Copenhagen side), and the bicycle lane on the right - while the pedestrians will all approach the bridge from the *right* , and the bicycles will approach from the *left* - from the "bicycle snake". Copenhagen pedestrians are used to insane bicyclists and most will be able to muster up the courage to cross. ;-) But, to use the complaint from earlier in the video - they shouldn't have to...
Your story about supply issues reminds me of a crushing mill complex I worked on in the early 1980's. The structure was designed and built in the United States, with the Imperial measurements. The moving parts, motors, gears, etc were built in Canada with the metric system. And nobody checked out to make sure everything was compatible. As part of the construction crew, I have to thank the engineers for the mistake. My bank account was much healthier for all the overtime I worked trying to adjust and install the mismatched pieces.
Hahaha I love this because it shows you how sorted life is in Copenhagen that they complain about such trivial stuff. Coming from India, if I had this infrastructure, I'd be elated. But loved the way he strung this together, thoroughly entertaining for me.
I think City Skylines with the traffic manager mod should be mandatory for politicians here. Many Danish cities are actually worse than City Skylines cities.
I looked at Copenhagen on Google maps, and instantly thought that I want to build that in Cities Skylines. With all the canals and bridges and stuff that should be a pretty interesting map.
This is hilarious, a couple of years back I went with my school on a guided tour of copenhagen and this first bridge was almost the centerpiece. They described it as innovative and super environmentaly friendly and a crucial part of copenhagen architechture, not even close to what is described in this video.
Typical propaganda, man. That's how politics works. Who cares if it's not practically or actually dangerous, it's much better because of X/Y/Z. And maybe if you disagree you're just evil.
The stupid right turn at the end of the Dybbelsbro bridge (didn't talk about it but was in your graphic) has confused me ever since they opened. Every time I turn right there I feel like I'm doing something illegal because there is barely any space.
The intersection at the beginning of Dybbølsbro in the morning between 07.30-08.30 is just mad chaos - the video does not even do it justice. The whole intersection can be full of bikes and heavy trucks are going through to deliver or pick up at kødbyen - accident waitinh to happen.
Lool, I was just telling my boyfriend about this video and said "hey, remember that stupid right turn when we were going to the shopping mall the other day, and how we got in the car lane instead of on the bike lane, this is also a very stupid decision", and that guy started talking about it :D
Lille Langebro isn't just a grand vanity project. Having biked over the big bridge for several years, being able to take instead the calm and nice smaller one, without cars right next to you has improved my every day life substantially since it was opened.
Additional failures relating to "the kissing bridge": Initially Copenhagen decided to station four guards on the bridge because they were afraid that people wouldn't understand how to safely enter and leave the bridge. I remember that the traffic on the bridge from day one was massive so this might be seen as due diligence instead of a failure. Soon after it was discovered that the road paving on the bridge was too slippery when wet so they had to quickly fix the paving. Also, at the time when the engineering company was in the process of bankruptcy, a steel delivery of more than 400 tons of steel from Spain was rejected because of quality problems. These days I cross Lille Langebro every day and if this new bridge didn't exist I might have selected a completely different route to avoid Langebro altogether so obviously I'm very happy about Lille Langebro. 🙂
Yea I think some of the critics neglect how annoying it can be to deal with Langebro depending on which direction you approach. The new Lille Langebro makes the general flow for bicycles much easier with less potential interruptions. I like it.
Yeah, Lille Langebro, is the most succesful of the three harbor bridges, even they are all to narrow, hope they will learn when the fourth between Tejholmen and Islands Brygge gets realized. (The Cycle-Mayor)
Everyone should find this interesting. It's important because 1) our taxpayer money should be spent wisely 2) even if you are not a cyclist, everyone benefits from good cycling paths, cyclists, motorists and pedestrians 3) good cycling infrastructure is so rare, but I don't think it's all that hard to design and make. Let's learn from the mistakes of others.
IndependentThought ...and even though they are a small group of people, even in Copenhagen, cyclists get catered to by city councils.....so yes, indeed watch how your tax-money is spent.
I have no idea why I just spent 17 minutes watching a guy I don't follow talk about a subject I never knew I cared about in a city I've never been in, but there, I did it.
As a binman (skraldemand) driving the skraldebil (wastetruck) near specially Dybbølsbro is insane. The bikelanes there are so weirdly angled that a lot is in blindspots. I would love the roundabout solution right there! Thanks for a very good video!
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As a Danish guy who studies in Italy, I can agree wholeheartedly.. Complaining a bit about a couple of bridges really isn't anything noteworthy in comparison haha
Very interesting video. The last bridge bothers me especially, since it creates very dangerous scenarios around the intersection. I study social Geography and Spatial Planning at Utrecht University, and I can tell you that a design like that should never be accepted. I don't think a roundabout would be a favorable solution though, since it appears to be a busy intersection, and the sole reason why they replaced the old roundabout is likely because roundabouts are usually a congestion nightmare. I'd say the most logical solution would be to make a 2 way bicycle lane along the road leading straight onto the bridge.
i know I'm a bit late on this comment, but as a Dane i have to agree with you, the amount of cars and bicycle traffic would have me a bit worried. The cars constantly have to check for bicycles whilst trying to make a turn would be lets say "problematic" and would probably cause accidents, If this was a majority car access roundabout road I'd go with that solution without any trouble, but the soft pedestrians, bicycles and cars is a iffy situation!
Yeah. Luckily the proposal for a new intercity bus station by Dybbølsbro has been approved. Is it ideal? I wouldn't say so but it's better than Ingerslevgade.
omg yes. there is like a million buses and only like 5 benches and you have to walk over the bike lane to get one the bus and their is so little shelter in case of rain.. it is truly ridicoules.
I can forgive that because it is an improvised solution and not something that was years in the making and cost millions of kroner. Apparently the city is working on an actual hub for long distance busses, so we'll see I guess.
First time I watch a video fro you and are only 3 minutes in and I already know this is gonna be my favorite architectural review channel! Love the style, looking forward and subbed.
09:20 I live close to Amager strand, and I depend on that bridge daily. Apart from the extreme cobblestone (which is significantly reduced if you go via Prinsessegade -> Sofiegade -> Dronningegade), this bridge is the reason I make it to work without sweat or stress. Judging from the amount of people using it (especially from that direction), the bridge certainly has paid off. My two cents would be to fix the cobblestone
Yep, that bridge has definitely been a great ease-of-life change for many cyclists in the areas nearby, makes it so much better not having to seek out a centralized main bridge with traffic and outside factors that can impede your riding flow.
Mikael’s parents emigrated from Denmark to Canada in 1953, where he was born. He left Canada at a young age and lived in cities around the world including Los Angeles, Suva, Melbourne, Hong Kong, Moscow, Paris and London. He settled in Copenhagen in the mid 1990s.
- CZcams: Hey wanna know what's wrong with this bridge in Copenhagen? - I....I guess so. Also....This is the most first-world problem video I have ever seen.
To be calatravish they should have made less friendly, like taking the protective glass off, then the city putting that and then going to court about how that modification was against the ideas of the "artist" 😂
@@EduardoEscarez Also, the budget should have been at least 10x what this bridge cost before it was discovered it would cost at least 20x to complete it
As a swede i'm very tempted to write a "danes are always drunk and that explains all this" joke but i'm going to be the bigger man and not do that. But wow. This is hilarious.
Hi - love the video. I do think you raise a lot of great critique points, but I don't share your general "bitterness" about the bridges in Copenhagen. I think it's an absolute pleasure to cycle around the city and I am impressed with how many innovative solutions that are being tried and tested. I truly enjoyed watching your video so I cant wait to watch your next one :)
Okay youtube, I've watched this video on bridges now. On a different note, this video was very well produced and it's host was VERY knowledgeable and surprisingly entertaining. Great video!
Yea my problem with bycicling in Copenhagen (something I do quite a lot of), is that it seems politicians don't seem to get that what is applied to automotive traffic should be applied to bicycle traffic too if it is to feel good for the user. Clear lines of sight, consequent rules that are NEVER broken on a whim, proper turn radiuses, etc. Just treat bikes as being cars that demand less space and have lower velocity and that'll make biking safer and nicer for everyone. Just because bicycle crashes typicalle aren't as serious as car crashes don't mean that design that puts you in constant fear of crashes with other bicyclists (or worse, cars) doesn't make you uncomfortable.
It would be nice if cyclists also treated bicycles as cars. Like, don't ride on the sidewalk, or run red lights, stay in your lane. You're still a vehicle and you must behave like one. This mostly applies to cities with bad or non-existent bicycle infrastructure.
Yea it's very strange, and thats how it works in every other intersection anyways - this new design is just odd. I don't think the roundabout would work these days because bicycle traffic is too heavy and it would clog the regular road traffic for cars and busses if there is a constant stream of bicycles. I think the issue is that they tried to fit a new design on the bridge into an existing intersection, without redesigning the intersection itself to match the bridge. A complete rework of the intersection could probably solve it quite easily, but that costs more money and will probably have to wait a few years before it would get a green light.
Idk, as a Dane I think it would cause some confusion initially and that's an incredibly dangerous thing to happen in Copenhagen due to the speed of the cyclists (first rule of Copenhagen is to constantly watch where you're going, cause if you don't, you'll get mowed down by a cyclist). A roundabout on the other hand, is so normal in Denmark, that both cyclists and drivers don't think about how to engage, but just engages without any difficulty. In some places of the country, we even have roundabouts inside roundabouts.
@Jeffrey van Gurp " Dutch "all bikes get green at the same time" solution " - ...Followed, no doubt, by the friendly message: "The City Council wishes the best of luck to everyone!..." (Pardon me, is this a "Traffic Management" or "Population Control" project?!... ;-)
I love Lille Langibro ! Great addition especially the connection with Vester Voldgade on the other side. We frequenty use the bridge when cycling from Frederiksberg to Christianshavn or back from Islandsbrygge.
15:23 I see Schadenfreude is a thing in Danmark as well... They build a nice amphitheatre shaped bench row (with some greenery) overlooking the intersection of death and misconduct to enjoy the goings on... In this frame (15:23) in the lower middle... The only thing missing would be a dark blue French built food truck to get a snack while waiting for the ambulance to arrive...
I'm actually surprised at the amount of international exposure on this video. I was expecting 90% of the comments to be from Danish people being proud of themselves haha. Pretty glad to see so many international viewers this time
fun fact: My dad is 83 years old and worked at Lego when they still made wood toys. He lived in Randbøldal and grew up during WW2. After the war the government wanted him to join the reserves because he was a boy scout leader. They even mailed him train tickets for his journey to prison when he refused. So he went to Sweden for a few years and worked and saved up some money and boarded a cargo ship to Canada. Well anyways Great Videos !!!!!!!!!!!
I used to visit Copenhagen twice a month and once went to visit the food truck/food hall place(which is gone??), but had to cross the first bridge mentioned. I remember thinking “how can a bicycle bridge not be straight, or at least have smoother transitions?” Now I laugh watching this video. Thanks for the memories!!
The food hall was probably 'Papirøen'. It did indeed get closed down and is being developed. The food stands have been moved to a new place called 'Reffen' out in Refshaleøen further out along the harbour on the same side. It isn't as accessible, but there is lots more room and the layout is better (and in the open). If it is actually better that way is debatable since accessibility is pretty important for such places.
As a Dane who's actually crossed that bridge on my bike, I would consider it more frustrating than fun, unless of course you have a fetish for riding around on stupidstupid infrastructure designed by someone who hasn't even got a faint idea of how something like this should be designed. But, to each their own, I guess, feel free to drop by any day and ride around on it all you like.:-)
@@mace8873 As a matter of fact, I do! Only had a few days in Copenhagen a year or two ago, loved the city so much. I wished I'd had the chance to ride there, because it would be nice to ride in a place where people aren't actively trying to kill you from once (Arizona, USA). Denmark truly is one of the loveliest places on earth. Thank you and your fellow Danes for Carlsberg, Tuborg and Northern Europe's superior brands of salted licorice!
Denmark: This bridge isn't following the bike guidelines to the letter Sweden: This bike path is close enough to following the guidelines UK: You guys get guidelines?
4:00 I went to Copenhagen last year and I can confirm that the sharp turn took me by surprise 😅 Also, the cobblestones at 8:51 were a real torture btw, they went on for sooooo long and you're just constantly shaken up and down on your seat..."recreational" my foot ! 😂 14:35 Last but not least, I just realised I "hacked the system" too back then without realising it 😅
Here in Vancouver we're removing motor vehicle lanes from the existing bridges into downtown. Three new bike lanes so far and two more in planning. The latest will be a greenway design with major pedestrian improvements too. The downside is they are high-level bridges so they tend to have significant climbs - although one isn't too bad. The upsides are less MV capacity and no delays for swing spans. Vancouver is often hilly so the bridge climbs aren't seen as that big of a deal. But we do have bidirectional bike lanes downtown and they work really well here. The design standard is they are only used when MV travel is one way so there is less potential conflict. I prefer bidirectional when possible because the wider lanes make passing easier or riding side by side its still possible for somebody to pass. Also, more likely to spot friends or acquaintances making the routes more social and creating the feeling of a nicer pace of life. We hit up to 10,000 per day at certain places on the bike network so we're catching up Copenhagen.
That last one has the most hopefulness. Reminds me of all the lessons I learned about paving cow paths, but a million kroner is a lot of cash to resist sunk cost fallacy. That roundabout looks like a great way forward if it was already in place.
Damn never knew Denmark looks so similair to the Netherlands. Good thing to know! If the Netherlands ever floods we have a back up....we just have to fix a few bridges and voila home sweet home.
Wow. I had no idea. I was in Copenhagen in December and stayed at the hotel right there. If only I knew then. Even though it's badly designed it brings back great memories of an amazing city with beautiful biking culture.
This is magical. I dont ride a bike, I dont live in Denmark, I do not have any real interest in bridge design. Yet, I watched this thing from start to finish. GG on making it sound interesting.
Three bridges, three times 'we are up with them and even better" - Century-old company: we may be old but can build modern unproven bridge designs better than anyone - Koolhaas: my bureau may be known for fancy forms, but look what we did to the place where once was a bridge: modernity and history in one - Immensely wide bicycle bridge: our bridge is wider than yours; did they go for a really cheap design, forgetting details? What bothers most, is not that those designs were badly detailed or even reckless, but that decisionmakers went along with them. Designers let their fantasy flow, engineers say 'çan do', politicians judge according to expected cost and benefit. That's my simplistic model. Apart from the third case, decisionmakers failed their duty. If you are inclined to use classical terms, you may say 'hubris' lead to feelings of superiority. If not, imagine 'Tower of Babel'; that was 'hubris'.
Oh! That fist bridge, I've got another one for you, with a similiar but not quite the same history of failure, the red monstrosity of the northern German city, Kiel. A folding bridge in three segments, that is almost every 2-3 months out of commision for days to weeks (about two-ish weeks at longest), its advocate lost his position on the city council and effectively we have two bridges now, the other one is the construction (2nd picture link) in front of teh red abomination. The redundancy bridge just slides over and locks into position, without a fail, without a problem, while teh red thing is called the "Klappt-Nix-Brücke" (doesn't fold/work bridge). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6rn_Bridge upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Hoernbruecke_Kiel.jpg
Meh. All this douchebag does it bitch and moan. He seems like the type who gets invited to a party and proceeds to complain the whole time about how his party would've been so much better. This is the first and last video of his that I watch.
I was about 1 minute into the section on Dybbølsbro, and thinking "surely that would be better with a roundabout"... and shortly after, Mikael explains that there used to be a roundabout there. As for the people who do not follow the rules, and get across the intersection in whatever way seems easiest/most convenient, that is one of the things I love about the Danes. They are some of the people most willing to work around stupidity (and discuss/critique it in very open and honest language, in English too, which is nice because we always have a good laugh about my - an English person based in Stockholm - attempts at speaking and understanding Danish), rather than mindlessly following a rule designed and implemented by someone who has more authority than competence.
Architects fucking up a simple task with a fancy project to add to their portfolio that doesn’t work in the real world Well how about that I’ve never heard of that happening before!
I could have made a very similar film about the three bridges constructed in Bristol UK, in the recent past. The first, Perot's Bridge, is on a strategic cycle route, so it was conceived, designed and constructed for pedestrians, so it was too narrow. The second, Valentine's Bridge, again on a cycle route, designed with the parapets too low and a surface which didn't have the right friction for bike tyres, so they banned cyclists from riding on it, and installed chicanes to make them get off, which inconvenienced everyone and could be blocked by a wheelchair or buggy. The final one was an absolute corker, officially called Meads Reach Bridge, but universally known as the cheese grater. It was made of stainless steel, which was very slippery when wet, and the road surface is composed of raised domes with holes in, just like a cheese grater, and there were many injuries caused by it. It was expensive, £2.4 million in 2008, and has been under repair and resurfacing seemingly endlessly since then. Mikael, you're only amateurs in Copenhagen; in Bristol we have bridges that attack cyclists.
Before the delays metioned, it were delayed 10 years earlier, because MÆRSK wanted his operahouse, but then he gave 165 mill D.Kr as part of the costs. These three 'new' harbour-bridges are to narrow, they have 20.000+ users pr day, and might last for 50+ year. Just 1 m. wider would take the top of the stress, it is to pass this infra structurel corridor. Hopefully we soon have the fourth harbour-bridge, and the planners learn from the experiences.
Well, thanks CZcams algorithm, now I am learning about bridges in Copenhagen.
At least you're learning something ;)
Not bad learning about the worlds greatest city :)
Don't question it... CZcams knows best..
Same haha.
@@alexanderkruse5715
Interesting. Could you expound on it? By what criteria specifically is it the greatest?
An engineer putting up a warning sign is like a comedian explaining his jokes.
All these bridges have railings that are lower than the seat of a bicycle too.. It's very much just an accident waiting to happen, and it could easily result in death as you probably will be flying off the bridge with your head first towards the ground. I hate these bridges.
CZcams: wanna watch a Danish guy roast a bridge for 16 minutes?
Me: ....okay
Right! How did I end up here!?
He's not Danish
@@Jaytelli He is, look at his last name
@@tomaszantochow8391 He isn't, listen to him speaking. More lilkely some Usasian guy who has lived in Denmark for 15 - 20 years
@@leifvejby8023 he is danish. Danes have just mastered the american accent
Meanwhile cyclists in non european countries: “You guys are getting bike lanes?”
sooo true ! I live in Paris...
Those countries also include UK, France and Spain
To be fair I have seen some epic bike lanes in some states in the USA as well. Just overall as a country, not so much yet.
We've had them in New Zealand for at least three decades but now that there's been a lot of talk about them, they're screwing them up. Bloody bureaucracy.
@@FirstSynapse Some of the UK ones are hilarious, Hey, where'd my road go?
Danish people complaining about not 100% functional bridge, meanwhile in Italy if the bridge doesn't fall down is a success
He is a jew not a Dane.. and some Italian bridges are still taking traffic after 2000 years,.. I dont think any other country can make the same statement.
@Thelondonbadger Need more bank accounts for that. 🤫😉
@@krixxset2214 Those are Roman bridges.
@andrea marino this made me spit out my coke onto my monitor LMAO!!!!!
Oh boy we have plenty of experience with Italian products. I mean the State railways ordered a 100 strong fleet of intercity trains from Italy... they were faulty and one of those 100 trains somehow made its way into the hands of Gadaffi in Libya without us knowing and still having paid for it.
That’s it I’m moving where the bridges are the worst problem...
yeah I was watching all of this thinking Copenhagen looks *lovely*.
Its cities like these which are why I'm learning Dutch
@@kaizokuAUTO You should learn Danish too, most Danes don't understand Dutch :-D
@@leifvejby8023 i bet he is from america, land of the braindead..
cirkuspolle he did say cities “like” (and thusly not necessarily) Copenhagen.
Not all muricans are dainbread 🤪
@@cirkuspolle I'm Welsh. Dutch will be my third language.
I'm learning Dutch because I love Amsterdam, but I was reminded of how nice both Amsterdam and Copenhagen are by this lovely video.
Have a nice day :)
Not interested in bridges
Not interested in Denmark
Not interested in watching a dude complain about bridges
BEST VIDEO I'VE SEEN THIS WEEK.
That's okay. We Danes are also not interested in you :D
And yes it is a great video.
I, as an Italian, wholeheartedly thank you for showing us that stupid things can be done anywhere
We love the Italians for being people who just after a while shrug their shoulders when you say it looks great but doesn't work!
Yeah but some italian bridges are over 2000 years old and still taking heavy traffic over them to this day.
This is a very funny comment. 👏
si ma noi siamo imbattibili, c'è stato un tempo in cui abbiamo forgiato il mondo ma adesso stiamo facendo di tutto per distruggerlo
Him: Look at these stupid bike bridges in Copenhagen.
Me from Bratislava: Bike bridge? What a miracle!
Exactly my thnking too. Never even seen a bike brgide in Serbia :D Even bridges for cars are totally stupid
I crashed so hard into the glass
On my longjohn first time i crossed lillelangebro.
There were no lights, no signs, and no color on the glass.
Behind every sign there’s a story
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I don’t know what a longjohn is but that sounds bad.
@@StamfordBridge It's a type of donut that he crashed in to
@@StamfordBridge It's a an old school long bike for deliveries. If you wanna see one you can google SCO long john.
This guy is so pissed about a bridge, I love him.
LOL, I agree. I probably will never go there. But he has some really good points about those silly design points.
Hes not really pissed, just irked.
hes so passive aggressive about as well, so fucking funny
Thibaut Crépelle uh... you strike as a person how doesn’t need to encounter bridges in your daily life, trust me bridges matter. I live on a key that needs to connect to the mainland via a bridge and every time the local government decides to add or change a bridge the community gets super heated. Bridges significantly decide how your life is lived when surrounded by water.
Nobody:
CZcams: Hey, fancy learning about Danish bridges?
That said, loved the video! Damn algorithm...
Same here, Daniel. The simplest design is always the best, IMHO.
Life goals. Find a man who loves you with as much passion as this guy has for stupid bridges!
I mean he is a professional urban planner after all.
CZcams be like :
"Do you know Copenhagen ?
-not really...
-But do you use bicycles ?
-Not at all.
-You know what a bridge is ?
-hum.. yes...
YOU'LL LOVE THAT VIDEO !
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And I loved it.
I came because of the algorithm. I stayed for his contempt.
Denmark: We spent €40 million on a bicycle bridge and the turns are too sharp! 😠
USA: We spent $1 billion on a bridge! What the hell is a bicycle?
UK - Boris Johnson spends 50m euros on a bridge that was never built.
they didnt actually ?
London's infamous "Garden Bridge". £45,000,000.00 of public money wasted. But that's Boris. Spent hugely on massive Covid treatment sheds that got no patients because there were never any doctors to staff them. Wasted millions on 'bendy buses' in London that had to be removed when they caught fire. Gave sweetheart deal to a bank to supply bikes without fair competitive tender. Allowed a contract for a ferry company that had no boats! You've got the Donald, we've got the Johnson and he's a big one at that.
@@lawrencesimmons5093 Another bridge is required in London - and it was cancelled by Labour partly because it was considered it might be a monument to Boris. Bendy busses are a Labour innovation, they were called 'monstrous' by BoJo due to the increased instances of cyclist deaths and were replaced by the new routemasters (which are expensive but are still the most popular busses in London which you can see time and time again in surveys)
Regarding the covid 'sheds' additonal capacity wasn't required, there were a few trial patients who were there to make sure that the systems could work if they needed them, fortunately the NHS didn't get overwhelmed (as initially predicted). Doctor friends of mine who volunteered on the covid wards and due to work there were stepped down as they weren't required.
The bikes were sponsored by and paid for by barclays, incidentally they were furious because they were called boris bikes, not barclays bikes by the public. They declined to renew the contract and they were replaced by HSBC who are paying less.
The ferry one is retarded but the contract was awarded by Chris Grayling not Boris.
The lesson here is to never let politicians fund anything. They're idiots.
Meanwhile in New York: Ride in the lane where the cars are parked or we'll fine you.
but yeah again bike in NY is a death trap....
Oh, get real. Our roads are oriented towards vehicle traffic and your bicycles just don't fit in. You were once limited to just sidewalks, but you kept running into pedestrians. We now let you onto the streets where others, protected by metal vehicles, have a reasonable chance of avoiding injury by you. Lol.
@@dwightstewart7181 Ok, boomer.
@@dwightstewart7181 jesus if your attitude is typical of a New Yorker it sounds shit. Aren't your footpaths already some of the most crowded? Who would think it would be a good idea to mix cyclists with a crowded pedestrian street. What you do, and I know it's a fucking really crazy idea I don't even know if anyone has thought of this before but, you give them their own lane, separate the different major traffic types, foot traffic, cyclists, and road traffic.
I don't know how people haven't figured out that more bikes means less car traffic to contend with which means easier drives for you in your metal cage. Why do you think of bikes as your enemy when they actually help you get where you're going faster by not taking up another car length on the road. Promote cycling and your drive to work will be better.
@@GloveSlapnz It's because the rules of coexistence are not fair.
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The cars are required to see where they can't and to yield to people coming from blind spots, or from multiple direction, and be ready to brake and disrupt even a slow pace to take into account bycicles, who can, by contrast, ride faster than their brakes say it's safe and basically ignore traffic rules.
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The reason is simple: cities aren't build for bycicles (zoning, mostly), and bycicles are terrible long-distance vehicles, all in all (hot or cold weather, dirt and mud, rain, little space for objects, sweat...). No wonder that in ALL countries, at some point, people have abandoned it as soon as they could to buy a car.
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But, not everyone can have a car, or things won't work, so bycicles have been brought back. And to make them more appealing than they were if they were treated equally, they have been given countless advantages, some of which are even contrary to safety. Or environmental protection (most of the strategies used to discourage cars are punishing for cars and for the environment, and don't take into account the idea of making the bike a better vehicle rather than bashing the car).
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Plus, the people who cycle around can be as a**holes as the ones driving cars (and the countless youtube dashcam videos from around the world show it perfectly), particularly in NYC, so what is achieved today is to divide people and make them angry toward each other, by saying to them that "rights over safety" and "guilt until proof" are good things.
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BTW Copenhagen is not an exception: I've driven and walked there. When I was driving, cyclist came out from every corner and I had to yield to people coming from my blind spot (which is idiotic), to the point where I had several of them passing right behind me as I was reversing with blinkers on to turn around and get out of a dead end in a small street (I hated each one of those uncaring bas**rds popping in the limited view of my back window), and as a pedestrian I got several of them zooming by at high speed in pedestrian areas, just inches from my face. Way to be safe... All that was unfair, and quite a lot.
The answer is to build cities that do not need cars, cities where bycicles are a good way of transportation, and make things fair (and more separated bike paths).
me:
CZcams: Hey check out this guy that complains about bridges for 15 minutes.
But did you watch it, all 15 min?
@@suttung you're damn right I did
@@jerryballstein Meee toooo, Meee tooo
same.
Yup, me too. My brother lives there, I never knew his struggles.
In a southern city in Chile, Valdivia, we managed to somehow build a bridge upside down 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
What! Lmao.
Tf?
Man, that is hilarious 😂
LOL, ONE segment of traffic deck was installed upside down.
Haha what? dont show this man the upside down bridge. He will go amok.
Me starting this video:
"How bad could you possibly screw up a bridge?"
Me at the end:
"Oh..."
Cities Skylines players: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
Hahahahaha... it's actually a clever game, when it comes to it, just in a much bigger scale.
You have to plan from the start, if you want a big city
@@mortenfrosthansen84 Eh, it's quite forgiving due to how cheap tunnels are the penalty from building elevated roads is also very small. It won't look good, but it's relatively easy to fix traffic by building something that would be too expensive in reality. In my first game I've build tunnels under entire downtown area's just to get a few trucks out of them.
@@TheEtueify I agree. It'z crazy that all these years after SimCity4 is still arguably the best city planning and administration game. C:S is for sure a better city building game, but it's way too easy in those other respects
@@tomasmesen True, Though at the same time, Simcity never had properly expensive tunnels either. It's the among others the flat max tax and such in Cities Skylines that makes it that fiddling with stuff is generally making the game easier rather than needed. You can spend the entire game outside of the managing part if you want to and only lose a little income. At the same time Sim Cities industrial traffic is much more forgiving than cities:skylines bizarre amounts of industrial traffic but when you get offices later game you're suddenly avoiding making as much industrial so the game get's easier for a while...
@@TheEtueify good tips.. I did experience, when having pockets of industry, where ground was useful, the jams startet appearing. I mainly widen roads, or build a vast metro system. So people don't use cars, but takes like 40 windmills.
Didn't think of tunnels for the road.
What I learned, is to start with big road grids, and actually keep it square and boring..
10:51 The speed of that bicycle..
You can get a boost over that bridge by going over another bridge that starts from an elevated point. It's a little bit risky as you have to be careful of crossing and/or unobservant (tourist) pedestrians.
The city is a pretty flat place and the bridges are almost the only "climbs," so shift up and blast past all the ones who shift down.
lol that's me
Seems normal to me, but then I am from Copenhagen myself.
As others have said, that's not too uncommon of a speed. And it indirectly shows the one major idiotic feature of that bridge, which Mikael is missing here... 99% of pedestrians *have to* cross the bicycle lane before crossing the bridge, with a fair amount of risk of being run down by someone like that guy. Because someone brilliantly decided to have the pedestrian walk on the left side of the bridge (seen from the Copenhagen side), and the bicycle lane on the right - while the pedestrians will all approach the bridge from the *right* , and the bicycles will approach from the *left* - from the "bicycle snake". Copenhagen pedestrians are used to insane bicyclists and most will be able to muster up the courage to cross. ;-) But, to use the complaint from earlier in the video - they shouldn't have to...
Your story about supply issues reminds me of a crushing mill complex I worked on in the early 1980's. The structure was designed and built in the United States, with the Imperial measurements. The moving parts, motors, gears, etc were built in Canada with the metric system. And nobody checked out to make sure everything was compatible.
As part of the construction crew, I have to thank the engineers for the mistake. My bank account was much healthier for all the overtime I worked trying to adjust and install the mismatched pieces.
Hahaha I love this because it shows you how sorted life is in Copenhagen that they complain about such trivial stuff. Coming from India, if I had this infrastructure, I'd be elated. But loved the way he strung this together, thoroughly entertaining for me.
Sure, it's not like there was a shit loads of money wasted
And that frst bridge, with the skidmarks, is outright dangerous.
Hundreds of years later the Pol built the Vikings a shit bridge in revenge for the raids. Hilarious.
The greatest long game play in history.
Pretty much how my roadplanning ends up in city skylines
Probably what they used to design this. So stupid my god.
I think City Skylines with the traffic manager mod should be mandatory for politicians here. Many Danish cities are actually worse than City Skylines cities.
I looked at Copenhagen on Google maps, and instantly thought that I want to build that in Cities Skylines. With all the canals and bridges and stuff that should be a pretty interesting map.
Sohave I suggest you see Monterrey.. one the worst cities for pedestrians or cyclists
@@Sohave Laugh in Thai.
Bangkok is just crazy. City for cars, not for pedestrian or bike or even motorbike.
This is hilarious, a couple of years back I went with my school on a guided tour of copenhagen and this first bridge was almost the centerpiece. They described it as innovative and super environmentaly friendly and a crucial part of copenhagen architechture, not even close to what is described in this video.
It really is a crucial part of Copenhagen - especially in the summer. It's not intuitive, however
Public school?
I also went on a tour and they did say it had a lot of trouble and cost a lot of money but also that it would be very important.
@kinsmarts 500 years ago? Where have you lost your maths? The 1930's aren't 500 years ago. They're 90 years ago
Typical propaganda, man. That's how politics works. Who cares if it's not practically or actually dangerous, it's much better because of X/Y/Z. And maybe if you disagree you're just evil.
The stupid right turn at the end of the Dybbelsbro bridge (didn't talk about it but was in your graphic) has confused me ever since they opened. Every time I turn right there I feel like I'm doing something illegal because there is barely any space.
The intersection at the beginning of Dybbølsbro in the morning between 07.30-08.30 is just mad chaos - the video does not even do it justice. The whole intersection can be full of bikes and heavy trucks are going through to deliver or pick up at kødbyen - accident waitinh to happen.
lol
Lool, I was just telling my boyfriend about this video and said "hey, remember that stupid right turn when we were going to the shopping mall the other day, and how we got in the car lane instead of on the bike lane, this is also a very stupid decision", and that guy started talking about it :D
Solution is to turn the intersection into a scramble so there's only one stop to cross.
As someone who's never been to Denmark, this made me want to move there.
Go ahead
You are welcome to join our little country. we dont bite 👌:)
It's very expensive in Copenhagen. Just don't move to any of the western suburbs and you'll be fine.
Lille Langebro isn't just a grand vanity project. Having biked over the big bridge for several years, being able to take instead the calm and nice smaller one, without cars right next to you has improved my every day life substantially since it was opened.
Exactly. Langebro and H. C. Andersens Boulevard is not a nice place to ride your bike (unless everybody drives electric vehicles or rides bicycles).
Additional failures relating to "the kissing bridge": Initially Copenhagen decided to station four guards on the bridge because they were afraid that people wouldn't understand how to safely enter and leave the bridge. I remember that the traffic on the bridge from day one was massive so this might be seen as due diligence instead of a failure.
Soon after it was discovered that the road paving on the bridge was too slippery when wet so they had to quickly fix the paving.
Also, at the time when the engineering company was in the process of bankruptcy, a steel delivery of more than 400 tons of steel from Spain was rejected because of quality problems.
These days I cross Lille Langebro every day and if this new bridge didn't exist I might have selected a completely different route to avoid Langebro altogether so obviously I'm very happy about Lille Langebro. 🙂
Yea I think some of the critics neglect how annoying it can be to deal with Langebro depending on which direction you approach. The new Lille Langebro makes the general flow for bicycles much easier with less potential interruptions. I like it.
Yeah, Lille Langebro, is the most succesful of the three harbor bridges, even they are all to narrow,
hope they will learn when the fourth between Tejholmen and Islands Brygge gets realized.
(The Cycle-Mayor)
I don't live in Copenhagen, I never ride a bike, why do I find this interesting?
You should ride a bike in the future.
Cuz u r bored af bruh!
Everyone should find this interesting. It's important because 1) our taxpayer money should be spent wisely 2) even if you are not a cyclist, everyone benefits from good cycling paths, cyclists, motorists and pedestrians 3) good cycling infrastructure is so rare, but I don't think it's all that hard to design and make. Let's learn from the mistakes of others.
IndependentThought ...and even though they are a small group of people, even in Copenhagen, cyclists get catered to by city councils.....so yes, indeed watch how your tax-money is spent.
It's a sign to get a bicycle.
In my 36 hours in Copenhagen, I experienced two of these myself. It's still a fantastic city to ride around, though.
I have no idea why I just spent 17 minutes watching a guy I don't follow talk about a subject I never knew I cared about in a city I've never been in, but there, I did it.
Haha.... I loved your comment 💚
Thank you Mikael. I worked on the project - believe me, it was a shit show !!! A lot of the mistakes was pointed out by my company (Pihl)
As a binman (skraldemand) driving the skraldebil (wastetruck) near specially Dybbølsbro is insane.
The bikelanes there are so weirdly angled that a lot is in blindspots. I would love the roundabout solution right there!
Thanks for a very good video!
Thank you for the work you do, Nicolaj! The danger of crossing bike paths collecting bins must be 100x daily for you collecting affald
Yeah a roundabout there would solve so much. Much more organic
oh my sweet summer child, this is ordinary administration in italy
Winnipeg Manitoba is full of incompetent and corrupt and useless building inspectors. Google WINNIPEG BUILDING INSPECTORS FIRED. The Mafia is nothing compared to the Mayor and City Council. Enter Winnipeg AT YOUR OWN RISK!
@@rustystove8410 be careful what you say, if it's that bad, and you live nearby.. they might hear you
If this is what is normal to you I'm glad I don't live in Italy
We're supposed to be better in scandinavia though. 😜
As a Danish guy who studies in Italy, I can agree wholeheartedly.. Complaining a bit about a couple of bridges really isn't anything noteworthy in comparison haha
Tax-Money-Waste?!
Literally every German: Hold my ... Airport!
If it were only the airport ...
Are you referencing the Berlin airport?
Hold my Berlin Airport, my Hamburg Concert Hall, my Lüneburg University....
@@4Aernie haha yeah, Elbphilharmonie. Beautiful building, but the wasted money, ouch.
Haha.. BER is such a joke
LOL! 4:52 - While he's talking about how un-intuitive this is, the guy in the red jacket in the background is turning around from going the wrong way!
Very interesting video. The last bridge bothers me especially, since it creates very dangerous scenarios around the intersection. I study social Geography and Spatial Planning at Utrecht University, and I can tell you that a design like that should never be accepted. I don't think a roundabout would be a favorable solution though, since it appears to be a busy intersection, and the sole reason why they replaced the old roundabout is likely because roundabouts are usually a congestion nightmare. I'd say the most logical solution would be to make a 2 way bicycle lane along the road leading straight onto the bridge.
i know I'm a bit late on this comment, but as a Dane i have to agree with you, the amount of cars and bicycle traffic would have me a bit worried. The cars constantly have to check for bicycles whilst trying to make a turn would be lets say "problematic" and would probably cause accidents, If this was a majority car access roundabout road I'd go with that solution without any trouble, but the soft pedestrians, bicycles and cars is a iffy situation!
You can do more videos about other things in Copenhagen/Denmark;You are a good reviewer
Your cynicism of architecture is beautiful. Thank you for this.
The biggest bummer of Copenhagen still has to be the bus hub in Ingerslevsgade though. Several hundred metres of biker/bus passenger chaos
Yeah. Luckily the proposal for a new intercity bus station by Dybbølsbro has been approved. Is it ideal? I wouldn't say so but it's better than Ingerslevgade.
True damn that's bad in århus it's way better
omg yes. there is like a million buses and only like 5 benches and you have to walk over the bike lane to get one the bus and their is so little shelter in case of rain.. it is truly ridicoules.
I can forgive that because it is an improvised solution and not something that was years in the making and cost millions of kroner. Apparently the city is working on an actual hub for long distance busses, so we'll see I guess.
Er det der hvor flixbusserne holder? Har kørt med dem et par gange til København og alle passagerer blokerer cykelstien
First time I watch a video fro you and are only 3 minutes in and I already know this is gonna be my favorite architectural review channel! Love the style, looking forward and subbed.
"Have you seen the bridge?"
"I ain't seen the bridge!"
"Here's three."
09:20 I live close to Amager strand, and I depend on that bridge daily. Apart from the extreme cobblestone (which is significantly reduced if you go via Prinsessegade -> Sofiegade -> Dronningegade), this bridge is the reason I make it to work without sweat or stress. Judging from the amount of people using it (especially from that direction), the bridge certainly has paid off.
My two cents would be to fix the cobblestone
Yep, that bridge has definitely been a great ease-of-life change for many cyclists in the areas nearby, makes it so much better not having to seek out a centralized main bridge with traffic and outside factors that can impede your riding flow.
This guy looks like Peter Serafinowicz playing one of his characters.
Doesn't that guy always play an asshole?
TheKettlebellGunsmith ...so, he nailed it,,then?
Peter Serafinowicz is often portrays stupid Americans making fools of themselves.
if it wasn't at that expense this would be another Polish comedy accent.
As an American, I hear no accent change.
That’s pretty outstanding!
Howdy
That‘s cause he‘s Canadian.
No his Danish, we are good at English.
Mikael’s parents emigrated from Denmark to Canada in 1953, where he was born. He left Canada at a young age and lived in cities around the world including Los Angeles, Suva, Melbourne, Hong Kong, Moscow, Paris and London. He settled in Copenhagen in the mid 1990s.
Laughed my ass off at 4:15. That's hilarious. "Wait, it doesn't go straight?!" That's beyond stupid design.
- CZcams: Hey wanna know what's wrong with this bridge in Copenhagen?
- I....I guess so.
Also....This is the most first-world problem video I have ever seen.
Man the first bridge is so calatravish that as a Spaniard I feel deprived of my identity
To be calatravish they should have made less friendly, like taking the protective glass off, then the city putting that and then going to court about how that modification was against the ideas of the "artist" 😂
@@EduardoEscarez Also, the budget should have been at least 10x what this bridge cost before it was discovered it would cost at least 20x to complete it
The CZcams algorithm works in very strange ways
Indeed amego
At least I've been at the first bridge :-)
As a swede i'm very tempted to write a "danes are always drunk and that explains all this" joke but i'm going to be the bigger man and not do that. But wow. This is hilarious.
Sweden ain't no Saint either when it comes to planning, administration and politics...
@@ic.xc. one word.. Postnord!
@@johan.ohgren That wasn't nice - honest maybe, but decidedly not nice!
@@johan.ohgren Well Postnord is private, and is also Denmark, Norway, Finland
Hahaha cheers, mate
That settles it them, with all the problem they have in Copenhagen, I'm staying in Kabul!
:-)
L.
Hi - love the video. I do think you raise a lot of great critique points, but I don't share your general "bitterness" about the bridges in Copenhagen. I think it's an absolute pleasure to cycle around the city and I am impressed with how many innovative solutions that are being tried and tested. I truly enjoyed watching your video so I cant wait to watch your next one :)
This is the first time I've seen your channel and I love it! Thanks. I'll be around for good now so get used to it.
I am sorry for the people of Copenhagen. They are struggling with very big problems!
hahah
I'm gonna invite them to Mexico City and see if they can survive one day riding a bike here
lol
SO many sad and angry people riding across those bridges
"The office was coozy warm, so we planned all in front of the computer. It looked fi-ine!"
I'm from Copenhagen, why am I watching this.
du er fra jylland, jeg kan mærke det
If you are what did that guy said?
Okay youtube, I've watched this video on bridges now. On a different note, this video was very well produced and it's host was VERY knowledgeable and surprisingly entertaining. Great video!
I live in Copenhagen and couldnt agree more!
Do you ride bicycles in the winter? How cold does it get there?
@@mikecummings4715 Most CPH's does, it could be very cold but the last decades mostly mild.
Yea my problem with bycicling in Copenhagen (something I do quite a lot of), is that it seems politicians don't seem to get that what is applied to automotive traffic should be applied to bicycle traffic too if it is to feel good for the user. Clear lines of sight, consequent rules that are NEVER broken on a whim, proper turn radiuses, etc. Just treat bikes as being cars that demand less space and have lower velocity and that'll make biking safer and nicer for everyone. Just because bicycle crashes typicalle aren't as serious as car crashes don't mean that design that puts you in constant fear of crashes with other bicyclists (or worse, cars) doesn't make you uncomfortable.
It would be nice if cyclists also treated bicycles as cars. Like, don't ride on the sidewalk, or run red lights, stay in your lane. You're still a vehicle and you must behave like one. This mostly applies to cities with bad or non-existent bicycle infrastructure.
Damn that last bridge's intersection could really use the Dutch "all bikes get green at the same time" solution (if not going for a roundabout)
Yea it's very strange, and thats how it works in every other intersection anyways - this new design is just odd. I don't think the roundabout would work these days because bicycle traffic is too heavy and it would clog the regular road traffic for cars and busses if there is a constant stream of bicycles.
I think the issue is that they tried to fit a new design on the bridge into an existing intersection, without redesigning the intersection itself to match the bridge. A complete rework of the intersection could probably solve it quite easily, but that costs more money and will probably have to wait a few years before it would get a green light.
Idk, as a Dane I think it would cause some confusion initially and that's an incredibly dangerous thing to happen in Copenhagen due to the speed of the cyclists (first rule of Copenhagen is to constantly watch where you're going, cause if you don't, you'll get mowed down by a cyclist). A roundabout on the other hand, is so normal in Denmark, that both cyclists and drivers don't think about how to engage, but just engages without any difficulty. In some places of the country, we even have roundabouts inside roundabouts.
@Jeffrey van Gurp " Dutch "all bikes get green at the same time" solution " - ...Followed, no doubt, by the friendly message: "The City Council wishes the best of luck to everyone!..." (Pardon me, is this a "Traffic Management" or "Population Control" project?!... ;-)
@@Real_MisterSir You're right, often the prober correction will come with the experience, and demand of a logical solution. So there is hope.
5:55
So, green meens go, right?
So you have to drive over it when its open?
I'm confused 😅
I love Lille Langibro ! Great addition especially the connection with Vester Voldgade on the other side. We frequenty use the bridge when cycling from Frederiksberg to Christianshavn or back from Islandsbrygge.
never saw a bridge that describes my dating life so accurately as the first bridge
Volvox It might take a couple of tries but I get the job done baby.
Tried to be the kissing became stupid stupid...
15:23 I see Schadenfreude is a thing in Danmark as well... They build a nice amphitheatre shaped bench row (with some greenery) overlooking the intersection of death and misconduct to enjoy the goings on...
In this frame (15:23) in the lower middle... The only thing missing would be a dark blue French built food truck to get a snack while waiting for the ambulance to arrive...
Schadenfreude and grumbling is a favourite pastime here.
Yeah, but we call it "skadefryd"
A video about Denmark exists.
People from Denmark: Who summoned me?
I'm actually surprised at the amount of international exposure on this video. I was expecting 90% of the comments to be from Danish people being proud of themselves haha. Pretty glad to see so many international viewers this time
I wish I had just 10% the amount of passion for life that this man has for bridges
He has pride in cycle infrastructure. His been Copenhagen bicycle ambassador for years. And done a lot of good but also not so good things .
fun fact: My dad is 83 years old and worked at Lego when they still made wood toys. He lived in Randbøldal and grew up during WW2. After the war the government wanted him to join the reserves because he was a boy scout leader. They even mailed him train tickets for his journey to prison when he refused. So he went to Sweden for a few years and worked and saved up some money and boarded a cargo ship to Canada. Well anyways Great Videos !!!!!!!!!!!
Inderhavnsbroen: brings to mind the old saying - "you had one job".
I used to visit Copenhagen twice a month and once went to visit the food truck/food hall place(which is gone??), but had to cross the first bridge mentioned. I remember thinking “how can a bicycle bridge not be straight, or at least have smoother transitions?” Now I laugh watching this video. Thanks for the memories!!
The food hall was probably 'Papirøen'. It did indeed get closed down and is being developed. The food stands have been moved to a new place called 'Reffen' out in Refshaleøen further out along the harbour on the same side. It isn't as accessible, but there is lots more room and the layout is better (and in the open). If it is actually better that way is debatable since accessibility is pretty important for such places.
As an avid cyclist, that bridge looks freaking fun as hell.
more like for BMX for x-sport...one fail and you end up in the river...or the street below...
@@campkira Even worse - it's the harbour you'll end up in.
As a Dane who's actually crossed that bridge on my bike, I would consider it more frustrating than fun, unless of course you have a fetish for riding around on stupidstupid infrastructure designed by someone who hasn't even got a faint idea of how something like this should be designed. But, to each their own, I guess, feel free to drop by any day and ride around on it all you like.:-)
@@mace8873 As a matter of fact, I do! Only had a few days in Copenhagen a year or two ago, loved the city so much. I wished I'd had the chance to ride there, because it would be nice to ride in a place where people aren't actively trying to kill you from once (Arizona, USA). Denmark truly is one of the loveliest places on earth. Thank you and your fellow Danes for Carlsberg, Tuborg and Northern Europe's superior brands of salted licorice!
@@samuelhopely4853 You have to be the only foreigner I've heard who enjoys Scandinavian licorice
Copenhagen looks so beautiful and clean even with the slightly odd bridges. :)
Denmark: This bridge isn't following the bike guidelines to the letter
Sweden: This bike path is close enough to following the guidelines
UK: You guys get guidelines?
when i was at the first bridge i also was confused, wherever i stood, i felt like i was on the wrong side somehow.
Dude I wish he wasn’t talking about danish so much , I’m Hungary !!
4:00 I went to Copenhagen last year and I can confirm that the sharp turn took me by surprise 😅
Also, the cobblestones at 8:51 were a real torture btw, they went on for sooooo long and you're just constantly shaken up and down on your seat..."recreational" my foot ! 😂
14:35 Last but not least, I just realised I "hacked the system" too back then without realising it 😅
czcams.com/video/DRUnWXVZ-HQ/video.html New Bike route!
Here in Vancouver we're removing motor vehicle lanes from the existing bridges into downtown. Three new bike lanes so far and two more in planning. The latest will be a greenway design with major pedestrian improvements too. The downside is they are high-level bridges so they tend to have significant climbs - although one isn't too bad. The upsides are less MV capacity and no delays for swing spans. Vancouver is often hilly so the bridge climbs aren't seen as that big of a deal.
But we do have bidirectional bike lanes downtown and they work really well here. The design standard is they are only used when MV travel is one way so there is less potential conflict. I prefer bidirectional when possible because the wider lanes make passing easier or riding side by side its still possible for somebody to pass. Also, more likely to spot friends or acquaintances making the routes more social and creating the feeling of a nicer pace of life. We hit up to 10,000 per day at certain places on the bike network so we're catching up Copenhagen.
That last one has the most hopefulness. Reminds me of all the lessons I learned about paving cow paths, but a million kroner is a lot of cash to resist sunk cost fallacy. That roundabout looks like a great way forward if it was already in place.
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Damn never knew Denmark looks so similair to the Netherlands. Good thing to know! If the Netherlands ever floods we have a back up....we just have to fix a few bridges and voila home sweet home.
Well most of Denmark is not very high above sealevel, so if the Netherlands goes down under we'll be right behind you lol.
Wow. I had no idea. I was in Copenhagen in December and stayed at the hotel right there. If only I knew then. Even though it's badly designed it brings back great memories of an amazing city with beautiful biking culture.
This is magical.
I dont ride a bike, I dont live in Denmark, I do not have any real interest in bridge design.
Yet, I watched this thing from start to finish.
GG on making it sound interesting.
10:51 the guy in the background "vroooom"
Three bridges, three times 'we are up with them and even better"
- Century-old company: we may be old but can build modern unproven bridge designs better than anyone
- Koolhaas: my bureau may be known for fancy forms, but look what we did to the place where once was a bridge: modernity and history in one
- Immensely wide bicycle bridge: our bridge is wider than yours; did they go for a really cheap design, forgetting details?
What bothers most, is not that those designs were badly detailed or even reckless, but that decisionmakers went along with them. Designers let their fantasy flow, engineers say 'çan do', politicians judge according to expected cost and benefit. That's my simplistic model. Apart from the third case, decisionmakers failed their duty.
If you are inclined to use classical terms, you may say 'hubris' lead to feelings of superiority. If not, imagine 'Tower of Babel'; that was 'hubris'.
I never thought I would ever laugh at a video about stupid bridge designs but here we are =D
I finally found a person who hates Inderhavnsbroen as much as I do. 😂
I do remember reading your article about the bridge some years ago.
I just learned a hell of a lot about urban design and planning for bicycle transport in a little under 17 minutes. Great video.
Oh! That fist bridge, I've got another one for you, with a similiar but not quite the same history of failure, the red monstrosity of the northern German city, Kiel.
A folding bridge in three segments, that is almost every 2-3 months out of commision for days to weeks (about two-ish weeks at longest), its advocate lost his position on the city council and effectively we have two bridges now, the other one is the construction (2nd picture link) in front of teh red abomination. The redundancy bridge just slides over and locks into position, without a fail, without a problem, while teh red thing is called the "Klappt-Nix-Brücke" (doesn't fold/work bridge).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6rn_Bridge upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Hoernbruecke_Kiel.jpg
Tonight. CZcams algorithm made me realise i need more of Mikael Colville-Andersen in my life.
Meh. All this douchebag does it bitch and moan. He seems like the type who gets invited to a party and proceeds to complain the whole time about how his party would've been so much better. This is the first and last video of his that I watch.
When I went to Copenhagen and crossed this bridge my only thought was: w h y .
I was about 1 minute into the section on Dybbølsbro, and thinking "surely that would be better with a roundabout"... and shortly after, Mikael explains that there used to be a roundabout there.
As for the people who do not follow the rules, and get across the intersection in whatever way seems easiest/most convenient, that is one of the things I love about the Danes. They are some of the people most willing to work around stupidity (and discuss/critique it in very open and honest language, in English too, which is nice because we always have a good laugh about my - an English person based in Stockholm - attempts at speaking and understanding Danish), rather than mindlessly following a rule designed and implemented by someone who has more authority than competence.
The architect of the "Kissing bridge" is Studio Bednarski Ltd. A British architect company in London.
Architects fucking up a simple task with a fancy project to add to their portfolio that doesn’t work in the real world
Well how about that I’ve never heard of that happening before!
Watching a man angrily roasting a bridge for 16 minutes, hell yeah
All of what is said here are my thoughts exactly. Stupid politicians should stay out of city planning.
the city is home to us all and should be controlled by the democratic institutions. Hence we need the duly elected politicians to control it
Unaccountable bureaucracies don’t do any better.
It just seems like the architects and designers never had riden a bike before they decided to design a bridge for it
got to made moeny...
@Lasse Givoni yeah man, I should be the one ruling your city.
10:52 almost super sonic
I could have made a very similar film about the three bridges constructed in Bristol UK, in the recent past. The first, Perot's Bridge, is on a strategic cycle route, so it was conceived, designed and constructed for pedestrians, so it was too narrow. The second, Valentine's Bridge, again on a cycle route, designed with the parapets too low and a surface which didn't have the right friction for bike tyres, so they banned cyclists from riding on it, and installed chicanes to make them get off, which inconvenienced everyone and could be blocked by a wheelchair or buggy. The final one was an absolute corker, officially called Meads Reach Bridge, but universally known as the cheese grater. It was made of stainless steel, which was very slippery when wet, and the road surface is composed of raised domes with holes in, just like a cheese grater, and there were many injuries caused by it. It was expensive, £2.4 million in 2008, and has been under repair and resurfacing seemingly endlessly since then. Mikael, you're only amateurs in Copenhagen; in Bristol we have bridges that attack cyclists.
Before the delays metioned, it were delayed 10 years earlier, because MÆRSK wanted his operahouse, but then he gave 165 mill D.Kr as part of the costs.
These three 'new' harbour-bridges are to narrow, they have 20.000+ users pr day, and might last for 50+ year.
Just 1 m. wider would take the top of the stress, it is to pass this infra structurel corridor.
Hopefully we soon have the fourth harbour-bridge, and the planners learn from the experiences.