If he would have made a decent amount of extra money for stretching the vid out for 14 more seconds why would anyone be upset by that? Probably the only reason he didn’t do it is because of whining fans - guys, it’s 14 extra seconds and you can stop watching at anytime anyway - I never understood why it bothers people. I would bet it’s mostly children or very young adults that get upset over petty shit like this - let the man make money!
Hey ace. Most of us here know you are pretty disappointed in trey arch and how they are handling the game but thanks for continuing in posting videos like this!
When ace does a top gun guide, it's the only one worth watching.Most other youtubers just do them constantly for views, or every day they bring another video out about how amazing a gun is then another then another then another. Especially goblin, all click baiters
Great comment. Take Goblin or Frizzeyes. Every video starts with: " This is op now" Right now, according to them, every gun is op. I am so done with such bad creators.
Good point! Ace is like Blackjack says: "Solid and dependable." And he found away around not spending any money for new gun guides...borrow a friend's account. Ha!
Tbh in Blackout the Swat RFT feels like god tier to me, especially after they nerfed the ABR so far into the ground it's in China right now. The KN and Rampart are really good too.
I typically use the KN57 and Daemon the most often as of the most recent that I've played though I do like the MX9 as a short range weapon without the need for any attachments to pair with a sniper. The Titan and Auger are for bad people who belong in jail.
Parker I love using the Auger with fast mags, thermal, both high caliber attachments, and fmj. Its super op especially since everyone spams spectres smoke now
My Top Guns (Snipers excluded): 1 Auger with OP Mod&High Cal 1+2 2 or #7 MOG with Dragon Breath* 3 Daemon with High Cal & Rapid Fire 4 Switchblade with Rapid Fire 1+2 5 Rampart with High Cal 1+2 6 Kn 57 with Rapid Fire, Silencer and Hybrid Mags 7 Vkm with High Cal 1+2 8 Titan with Fmj 1+2 and Extended Mags or Mags 1+2 and Fmj 1 and Thermal 9 Swordfish Penta Burst 10 Hades with OP Mod 11 Tigershark with OP Mod 12 Swat 12 Icr 12 Cordit 12 Saug 12 Spitfire 12 Maddox 12 SG 12 19 Vapr 19 Mx9 19 Gks All in all I must say that the weapons in this game really well balanced, except the top few. You can even use the mx9 and gks for good game plays. Many ppl even swear on them and only play those guns. It's often just small differences. I personally put the popular Maddox, Saug and Spitfire so "low" because they are not as practical as other guns in their class. F.e. The Maddox is great for middle distances. The swat and icr and all tactical weapons and lmgs top it in longer range and in shorter range most smgs top it. The Saug and especially spitfire (especially x2 with the wildfire mod) burn through ammo really fast and you need either crash or scavenger for them which wastes 1 slot in the pick 10 or is not always available (crash) and from my experience the deamon is much better than both and the switchblade is a better version of the spitfire, much better recoil and wastes less ammo. Also both take less skill. If your are an amazing player your list might be different and you might include the spitfire or saug in the top 5. They can still be great but you really need great movement and recoil control (scuff is recommended) to slay hard with those 2 guns. It's really a super tryharder gun. If you can't play like that the other smgs are a better choice. When it comes to lmgs it depends on yourself if you prefer the Vkm or the Titan. I rarely play any tho so I can't say for sure which is better. The Hades and Tigershark are not rly classical Lmgs but both are really strong. You need to test them and decide for yourself if they are for you. The tactical weapons used to suck at the start but now they are strong af. Especially the Auger DMR. That shit really is the most op gun in this game. Also the GOD DAMN MOG is so infuriating! Even more than the strobe light sg12 because it's too strong. You can kill multiple ppl with it easily. Shoot one go behind cover shoot 2nd go behind cover shoot 3rd etc.. It really depends on the lobby and map how good you can play with it. That's why it's either #2 or #7.
@@deanwadley7311 lol a couple mins because I couldn't remember all the weapons right away and how good they are. Had to look at a few and their attachments and remember when I played them because some of them I didn't play in a while or don't play much. Rn I'm kinda trying to get all weapons to gold but I play all a bit and don't do just 1 till it's done like most ppl. Don't have the patience for that ^^
@@deanwadley7311 and yeah. The Saug is actually pretty good but it takes too much skill compared to weapons like the daemon and the switchblade. That's why it's so low on my list. I'm an average player. If you are and amazing player your list might look different to some extent. Maybe including the Saug and spitfire in the top 5
@@its570Key It takes maybe 2 mins to read. If you are this lazy then you shouldn't bother commenting. Ppl who complain about supposedly too long texts are honestly the biggest idiots. No matter if on yt or chat apps. You can spend hours watching shit but god forbid you have to read for 2 minutes. Your eyes might fall off.
I was kind of surprised the icr was not on her. Its a very good ar. Its ok at close and very good at both medium and long range. With little to no recoil at all. But i do understand your top 5 and all of these guns deserved to be on this list.
Great Video Ace! It's sad that they are buffing the DLC guns so much, or is it intentional to make people pay for them? Sadly, I bought the game when Operation Zero was about to end so I have no chance of getting the Daemon.
It took Ace some time but I'm happy to see this channel is gaining more support. Been with you since the BO2 days and your content has always been reliable and enjoyable to watch. Alot of call of duty CZcamsrs I used to watch fell off or changed games but as frustrating as it must've been to be a cod fan for the past few years you've stuck through and continuously given us great content. Great job Ace, much respect. Hope your channel keeps growing.
Never comment, but I feel you missed on 3 weapons. Best weapons for me have to be dominant when going up against multiple enemies. Top 5...Mog w Operator Mod, Hades Operator Mod, Swordfish Penta Burst, Auger Double High Cal, and KN w Silencer Nothing beats the Mog up close, not the Cordite or the Daemon
Lol did you not watch the vid or what? He mention the KN and the Auger. And you said against multiple enemies, the mog is not good against that, at all.
so i didnt buy the game yet because i dont know if im going to get bored of it fast. since there is no goal or thing to achieve and probably ill never play ranked. only deathmatch because i like it the most. also i might play zombie if it is as good as the old black ops 1. im a pc player. so should i buy it or not
Here’s my list Best Assault rifle: Rampart High Cal 2 Best SMG: Rampart High Cal 2 Best Sniper: Rampart High Cal 2 Best gun in the game: Rampart High Cal 2
My list 5) Titan stil way to good 4) Maddox good smg good ar master of all classes 3) AUGR click fast and you win 2) Switchblade good ttk on short ranges 1) Spitfire for me its the best gun in the game i can challenge everything with it and win even on mid to long ranges with it and it brings out some extra salt because people think its easy to use
The switchblade is a rushers dream gun, which is why it's my favourite. You move the fastest, it can kill faster than the saug, and if you learn the recoil pattern which really isn't difficult, you can dominate lobbies.
I subbed to Ace when he had 90,000 subs and he was doing blackops3. Look how far he has come. Its because he is a no nonsense guy. He tells it like it is without too much emotion.
The titan is a decent gun. It def needs a buff. The mag capacity without the attachment should be increased to 100, it also needs a silencer along with a buff to the fire rate.
In my personal opinion, I think the Mozu with skull splitter is the best gun in the game. I got 53 kills in a game of TDM with this thing. It is a one shot kill at any range as long as you get one headshot and it also fires fairly quick so even if you miss the first shot, your TTK is still crazy fast. But other than that I can completely agree with this top 5 (although I haven’t tried the Damon out yet)
@@lukaaz2419 I dont set up every class this way, but I like being able to use one weapon for everything. Instead of switching to a launcher to take out a streak I can just aim and shoot.
In my opinion, they need to buff the icr. I know it's a niche weapon, but the only reasonable attachments are quickdraw and grip. They need to give it rapidfire, high caliber, stock, or at least hybrid mags. This will make the icr more flexible
You forgot to talk about the kn-57s insanely quick reload, in my little bit of time playing most of my deaths have been when I don't have time to reload between gunfights, but with the kn-57 you could reload halfway through a fight and still have a chance
Which bugs? I haven't ran into any. Matchmaking is ass tho. I'm always stuck with the Timmys and I'm the only one going positive while they all are negative..
Gun balance is terrible too. It makes zero sense that guns like the KN can kill in 4 shots while it takes a minimum of five shots to kill with the Swordfish.
I play Hardcore so every gun that kills in one bullet is fine. Most of the SMGs don’t kill in one bullet though, and body armor makes that problem even worse. But I guess there will never be separate weapon balancing for hardcore players so I just have to deal with it.
I personally prefer the swat over any other weapon in the game. It's a great tactical rifle if you run all the tactical attachments including suppressor and thermal and it had a surprisingly reliable hip fire.
I honestly still think the Maddox is still one of the greatest guns. It had decent damage with 5-6 shot kills and super easy recoil to control. And it works great for medium and close range and maybe long range if u can land your shots. I personally play competitive more so yea
My first cordite class setup was fmj1 reflex grip extends mags my second elo fmj1 extened mags and rapid fire my third fmj1 rapid fire operator mod now double fmj extended mags and rapid fire and this is the number one channel for tips&tricks
I would say: 1. Daemon 2. Swordfish 3. KN 4. Rampart 5. Hades I prefer using the KN if I need a strong weapon - or when pissed off by the overwhelming use of the Swordfish, which I believe many Japanese players complain about
Daemon definitely number 1 for me. For some reason, however, the KN and Cordite are complete garbage in my hands. I don’t know why. The Maddox still works well for me, but only with both laser sights.
Michael Killey Definitely think the Daemon is the #1 gun, just played COD for the first time since Mk 11 dropped and I could definitely tell. But you can’t go wrong with the KN with any attachment and try the Cordite with long barrel, rapid fire and extended mags. Shreds for me
Maddox is still Nr.1 imho. With the right attachments you can outgun Smgs, ARs and LMGs all alike with this one. No other gun is that balanced and versatile!
My top guns now are daemon and KN57. I think KN is over all best AR now, like you said its just so versatile. Better then Maddox now ( with rapid fire ) which was best most versatile AR, just as versatile but has faster ttk up close, and better at range since the Maddox recoil nerf. Love the daemon it's my favorite gun now, always loved burst weapons.
日本ではsword fishが1番使われています。 In Japan, the weapon called swordfish is used first 公開マッチではswordfishやマウスが多いので日本ではとても嫌われています。 It is highly hated in Japan because there are many swordfish and computer mouse in public matches.
@@TheXclusiveAce I know you are a really nice guy and you don't want to do that but even the add of one short funny clip would make a difference 50? Dollar or more. If Content Creators do a great job they deserve it.
Swordfish is underrated, I hit a nuke yesterday using this gun. Try it: Swordfish: Operator mod Reflex Quickdraw Hybrid mags Stim shot Gun ho Scavenger
Gotta admit... I was pretty shocked not to see the titan along side that rampart given the reason you chose the rampart.. that FMJ II is nasty.. i was also surprised not to see the MX9
So Ace, what are your "must have" attachments for #1? It's easy to make a case for Rapid Fire & Hybrid Mags, but if you going to run High Cal, you need to run High Cal II. Where do you make the sacrifice? I can't choose, just gonna run all 4!
OMG...I just started using the Daemon about a week or 1 1/2 weeks ago or so when Ace recommended it after the patch. Damn...I've been having so much fun with this gun. It actually made mp fun again. I'm gonna keep using this thing and level it up. Thanks for the info Ace!!!
Highly doubt the daemon is the best weapon right now honestly cannot see why haven't had any good luck. And to not see the mx9 as even honorable mentions surprises me I feel like it's got a lot of good potential.
Hey good video although I don't agree completely with the list. I think the problem with it is that it's mainly based on time to kill, when there are many factors to weigh in when considering a gun - recoil is a big one (accuracy), clip size, versatility, just to name a few. For example the ICR doesn't kill extremely fast but it's still the most dominant from range with the double grip. The Maddox is an all around best weapon for those one on ones, even beats the smgs if you're good with it. The problem with those guns listed is that they rely on the attachments but in their base form the guns are not great. I'd definitely but the saug up there after the icr, Maddox. My opinion though.
Even though the cordite is a rip off of the pdw it doesn't feel fun to use like the pdw. Not sure if it's because of bo4s ttk or the sound of the weapon
These are the weapons I see ppl use the most (in no particular order) 1. Rampart 17 2. KN 57 3. Maddox 4. Deamon 3XB 5. Smaug 9mm 6. Switch blade 7. VKM 8. Titan Prior to recent buffs instead of the Switch Blade and Deamon 3XB i would see the Spitfire and Cordite Also I see the new LMG the Tiger Shark
Good list, I’d personally put the Switchblade over the Cordite since they have identical damage/range values but with much better handling and a faster fire rate on the Switchblade with both having Rapid Fire (or II). Recoil is iffy for both but good enough even without Grip if you can control them.
You know what's weird? Yesterday I had the most fun with bo4 since launch. I really enjoy the new content additions that came with spectre rising. The maps are great and I got serious classic cod vibes at times.
Did you take drugs that day bro? Its really a bad game its multiplayer only and it has really bad content for a multiplayer only game and its not free to play so i dont agree on that one , i dont have a season pass , but people with season pass are fuckt again lol , im a die hard cod fan and every game was goof for me , even infinite warfare , but ww2 and bops4 are games that where not ready at all to launch so no they fail every year in a lot of stuff , the last 4 years for a lot of people but for me the last 2 years , i prefer that they delay the launchdate and that it comes out one or two months later so they can work day and night about the bugs and balancing stuff than launching crap and let people play a game for 6months thats not even is ready to launch , im just saying man there are really stuff that must be there at launch like leaderbords , more weapons and more attachments and making specialists that are fun to play , whats fun about the fact you earn killstreaks like uav but you have fog of war and that stupid sensor everybody puts on? The perk ghost has no effect at all in this game and dead silence also not cause i hear people still from far awar even when they have it on? Also if you have a a chopper or gunship or whatever high killstreak you have earned , lets stand still about this specialist for a second, why the fuck you can hack killstreaks , whats the point of earning killstreaks than , its really not fun to play this year and no im not a prestige 2 and a noob with 0.5 k.d , im Lv 240 master prestige and having a k.d of 4.80 but im really not enjoying it , im just playing it cause my friends still do and because i just hope there finally comes a day with a big update but that everything is solved 😒
I would make the maddox a honorable mention, but the reason its not in the top 5 is because two months ago it got a huge nerf all of the best attachment for the Maddox Quickdraw 1 and 2, stock, Elo sight there all nerfed the thing it got buff is operator mod Echo fire (that mod sucks btw) so that is my reason why the maddox is a honorable mention instead of the top 5.
Hey Ace, what do u think of all guns not having the same attachments? Do u think that having that dictates the role of the gun instead of the player picking different attachments to determine the role?
Hey Guys and Ace 🤗. Guys, I have just ordered the *Black Ops 4 PS4 Slim bundle* with 500 million limited edition extra controller. I heard about the colossal 50 gb day 1 patch. If I kept my PS4 not connected to Internet, can I play offline splitscreen with my cousin without downloading that huge patch? I am yet to buy PS Plus subscription. PLEASE ANSWER GUYS 🤘
Ik you’re probably a pro, or close to it, seeing your gameplay and sub count... but daemon at #1 on your list!? I’m not knocking but it’s surprising to me. I personally can’t stand it, i felt like it had too much recoil. Maybe i didn’t give it enough time to get used to it . Perhaps i should try again.
Ryan Mitchell Definitely the best gun in the game currently and I try every gun besides snipers and shotguns. If you can consistently aim for the upper chest and/or head, it is for sure the best gun in the game
the kn57 and now that i have a swat, are my favorite assault rifles, my favorite submachine guns are the switchblade and daemon, my favorite tac rifle is the abr, i love the sdm and the rampage is fun to use
XclusiveAce: What do you think are the best guns? Me: 5. Strife - Trigger Finger-Wise 4. Switchblade - With Rapid Fire 2 & Hybrid Mags, controlling the recoil is reasonable, but good in my opinion. 3. Swat RFT - I love the ICR-7, and the Swat's basically the Versatile Version of it. 2. KN-57 - One of the best ttks in the game without the need of Grip. 1. Hades - The OP Mod is so much fun WITHOUT Rapid Fire.
Nice to meet you. I am Japanese but I always look forward to Ace's videos. In Japan, Swordfish are considered to be the strongest, but are they not highly valued there?
The cordite got me my highest kill game, higher then when I got lucky and got a gun ship from a care package while for the gunship game I got 37 kills and for the cordite I got 48 but the cordite game was on nuketown while the gunship game was on firing range
All of the guns in my list have a noticeably faster TTK than the Maddox. The Maddox is still great and definitely top tier in competitive but in pubs it's not the best due to a lack of attachment restrictions.
I'm so glad I grinded for the Switchblade despite it being only average, cos I knew they might pull something like this and buff it to a good extent. Also, getting the MKII Daemon just before the buff was so good too, I now have the 2 best guns in the game that are incredibly rare now that Shitarch has flooded the reserves with filler. Shame there is an element of pay to win in this game now.
Gotta respect a creator who doesn’t needlessly stretch their content to the 10 minute mark
RIP inkslasher
He should have though
Lol giving him credit cuz he decided to not make money out of this vid. Man U ppl weird af
Jannes Koppens I agree. And he still had a paid promotion lmao, so what are you even saying
If he would have made a decent amount of extra money for stretching the vid out for 14 more seconds why would anyone be upset by that? Probably the only reason he didn’t do it is because of whining fans - guys, it’s 14 extra seconds and you can stop watching at anytime anyway - I never understood why it bothers people. I would bet it’s mostly children or very young adults that get upset over petty shit like this - let the man make money!
This is the best call of duty channel on CZcams.
Completely agree with you
It is but he never talks in chat or LIKES any1zz posts lol
100% true
Better than that “I show off what I have” K3
Swagg*
So much respect for 9:46 min and not stretching it to 10min
AA 08 why would he stretch it?
he doesnt doing it for money
Hey ace. Most of us here know you are pretty disappointed in trey arch and how they are handling the game but thanks for continuing in posting videos like this!
When ace does a top gun guide, it's the only one worth watching.Most other youtubers just do them constantly for views, or every day they bring another video out about how amazing a gun is then another then another then another. Especially goblin, all click baiters
Great comment. Take Goblin or Frizzeyes. Every video starts with: " This is op now" Right now, according to them, every gun is op. I am so done with such bad creators.
true your right. but in my opinion the true best guns are the ones pros use competitive that r used in tournaments for real prize money.
Schepperfeuer YT i know they call everything op and its so annoying...
Good point! Ace is like Blackjack says: "Solid and dependable." And he found away around not spending any money for new gun guides...borrow a friend's account. Ha!
@@Undisputed-Champ93 Pro has banned items
Top 5 Blackout guns!! I think that needs an update because they keep messing with the guns without letting us know🤔🤔🤔
Tbh in Blackout the Swat RFT feels like god tier to me, especially after they nerfed the ABR so far into the ground it's in China right now. The KN and Rampart are really good too.
1. Titan nerf
2. Gks remove 9 shot range (buff)
3. Icr movement ads move speed buff
4. Rampage nerf
5. Vapr stiletto buff
Mine are the cordite, kn, sg12, swat, rampart
Mine are swat, kn, mx9, cordite and dmr
Yh i'm a weirdo. I love the GKS and SWAT RFT, I used to use the SAUG and Spitfire but they were a little cheesy and felt OP since I last used it.
No SMG is as cheesy as LMGs, Shotguns and even some ARs (basically just the Rampart with High Cal II) are, they’re the bitch guns.
Darsh I did but it’s true haha. They’re pussy guns, for campers or people who can’t aim.
@@RedfernYT and yet people think they are good when they use either rampart caliber 2 or titan nvir ext mags 2
gks is really versatile smg. btw we have the same profile pic lmao
I typically use the KN57 and Daemon the most often as of the most recent that I've played though I do like the MX9 as a short range weapon without the need for any attachments to pair with a sniper.
The Titan and Auger are for bad people who belong in jail.
I rarely see the auger tho :(
Titan, Mog Dragon Breath, Spitfire, and dual Saug users belong in Hell
@@totenblume7517 true, the auger is still a nice weapon
Parker I love using the Auger with fast mags, thermal, both high caliber attachments, and fmj. Its super op especially since everyone spams spectres smoke now
John Bolden III RIP the dual saug... was my fav.. was super OP but Treyarch killed it :/
My Top Guns (Snipers excluded):
1 Auger with OP Mod&High Cal 1+2
2 or #7 MOG with Dragon Breath*
3 Daemon with High Cal & Rapid Fire
4 Switchblade with Rapid Fire 1+2
5 Rampart with High Cal 1+2
6 Kn 57 with Rapid Fire, Silencer and Hybrid Mags
7 Vkm with High Cal 1+2
8 Titan with Fmj 1+2 and Extended Mags or Mags 1+2 and Fmj 1 and Thermal
9 Swordfish Penta Burst
10 Hades with OP Mod
11 Tigershark with OP Mod
12 Swat
12 Icr
12 Cordit
12 Saug
12 Spitfire
12 Maddox
12 SG 12
19 Vapr
19 Mx9
19 Gks
All in all I must say that the weapons in this game really well balanced, except the top few. You can even use the mx9 and gks for good game plays. Many ppl even swear on them and only play those guns. It's often just small differences. I personally put the popular Maddox, Saug and Spitfire so "low" because they are not as practical as other guns in their class. F.e. The Maddox is great for middle distances. The swat and icr and all tactical weapons and lmgs top it in longer range and in shorter range most smgs top it. The Saug and especially spitfire (especially x2 with the wildfire mod) burn through ammo really fast and you need either crash or scavenger for them which wastes 1 slot in the pick 10 or is not always available (crash) and from my experience the deamon is much better than both and the switchblade is a better version of the spitfire, much better recoil and wastes less ammo. Also both take less skill. If your are an amazing player your list might be different and you might include the spitfire or saug in the top 5. They can still be great but you really need great movement and recoil control (scuff is recommended) to slay hard with those 2 guns. It's really a super tryharder gun. If you can't play like that the other smgs are a better choice. When it comes to lmgs it depends on yourself if you prefer the Vkm or the Titan. I rarely play any tho so I can't say for sure which is better. The Hades and Tigershark are not rly classical Lmgs but both are really strong. You need to test them and decide for yourself if they are for you. The tactical weapons used to suck at the start but now they are strong af. Especially the Auger DMR. That shit really is the most op gun in this game. Also the GOD DAMN MOG is so infuriating! Even more than the strobe light sg12 because it's too strong. You can kill multiple ppl with it easily. Shoot one go behind cover shoot 2nd go behind cover shoot 3rd etc.. It really depends on the lobby and map how good you can play with it. That's why it's either #2 or #7.
That must've taken a while to type lol. I wish the saug was better, more like and msmc or vmp but it's a letdown
@@deanwadley7311 lol a couple mins because I couldn't remember all the weapons right away and how good they are. Had to look at a few and their attachments and remember when I played them because some of them I didn't play in a while or don't play much. Rn I'm kinda trying to get all weapons to gold but I play all a bit and don't do just 1 till it's done like most ppl. Don't have the patience for that ^^
@@deanwadley7311 and yeah. The Saug is actually pretty good but it takes too much skill compared to weapons like the daemon and the switchblade. That's why it's so low on my list. I'm an average player. If you are and amazing player your list might look different to some extent. Maybe including the Saug and spitfire in the top 5
Who’s gonna read all that
@@its570Key It takes maybe 2 mins to read. If you are this lazy then you shouldn't bother commenting. Ppl who complain about supposedly too long texts are honestly the biggest idiots. No matter if on yt or chat apps. You can spend hours watching shit but god forbid you have to read for 2 minutes. Your eyes might fall off.
I was kind of surprised the icr was not on her. Its a very good ar. Its ok at close and very good at both medium and long range. With little to no recoil at all. But i do understand your top 5 and all of these guns deserved to be on this list.
For me its 1.Saug 2. KN 57 3. Swordfish 4. Maddox 5. Rampart
Great Video Ace!
It's sad that they are buffing the DLC guns so much, or is it intentional to make people pay for them?
Sadly, I bought the game when Operation Zero was about to end so I have no chance of getting the Daemon.
I hate when people say that the progression system is a fair way to get the guns, as it totally disregards people like you who get the game late.
Mohammad Faisal don’t worry about it. In my opinion the cordite and saug are better
Dont worry man. You will definitely get it from the one million random items in the crates.
My friends girlfriend has the swat somehow. She just prestiged for the first time a few days ago
Mohammad Faisal You can still get the daemon if you get the signature weapon for it from reserves
It took Ace some time but I'm happy to see this channel is gaining more support. Been with you since the BO2 days and your content has always been reliable and enjoyable to watch. Alot of call of duty CZcamsrs I used to watch fell off or changed games but as frustrating as it must've been to be a cod fan for the past few years you've stuck through and continuously given us great content. Great job Ace, much respect. Hope your channel keeps growing.
Straight facts😤🚫🧢
Never comment, but I feel you missed on 3 weapons. Best weapons for me have to be dominant when going up against multiple enemies.
Top 5...Mog w Operator Mod, Hades Operator Mod, Swordfish Penta Burst, Auger Double High Cal, and KN w Silencer
Nothing beats the Mog up close, not the Cordite or the Daemon
Grey Disciple mog❤️❤️❤️ fucking love that toxic piece of love
Lol did you not watch the vid or what? He mention the KN and the Auger. And you said against multiple enemies, the mog is not good against that, at all.
The Mog is fucking broken with the operator mod, no gun has killed me more in the last month than that.
Shotguns are for scrubs bud.
Hades operator mod is nothing special imo
so i didnt buy the game yet because i dont know if im going to get bored of it fast. since there is no goal or thing to achieve and probably ill never play ranked. only deathmatch because i like it the most. also i might play zombie if it is as good as the old black ops 1. im a pc player. so should i buy it or not
Here’s my list
Best Assault rifle: Rampart High Cal 2
Best SMG: Rampart High Cal 2
Best Sniper: Rampart High Cal 2
Best gun in the game: Rampart High Cal 2
That's just being biased
well he’s not wrong
Deamon w/ high cal. 1 and 2, rapid fire and hybrid mags.
1 Daemon
2 Auger
3 Rampart
4 Kn
5 Cordite
Honorable mention Switchblade
Still watch the video, lots of good tips on class setups
8:32 THAT MOVE
My list
5) Titan stil way to good
4) Maddox good smg good ar master of all classes
3) AUGR click fast and you win
2) Switchblade good ttk on short ranges
1) Spitfire for me its the best gun in the game i can challenge everything with it and win even on mid to long ranges with it
and it brings out some extra salt because people think its easy to use
People sleep on the GKS with both long barrels
Excellent 👌
I love the gks! I'll try that set up
Nah its still very average
The switchblade is a rushers dream gun, which is why it's my favourite. You move the fastest, it can kill faster than the saug, and if you learn the recoil pattern which really isn't difficult, you can dominate lobbies.
1.Swordfish
2.ABR
3.Rampart
4.Daemon
5.VKM
373ばやし wrong
@@zigxzags How can an opinion be wrong?
I subbed to Ace when he had 90,000 subs and he was doing blackops3. Look how far he has come. Its because he is a no nonsense guy. He tells it like it is without too much emotion.
Thank you for not having your list look like this
1. Titan
2.Spitfire w/op
3.Spitfire
4.Saug
5.Saug w/op
That would probably be a official list 😂
Thats because all five of them have been nerfed to death
Maybe at launch it could've been
Don't forget Paladin, Outlaw, and Maddox.
The titan is a decent gun. It def needs a buff. The mag capacity without the attachment should be increased to 100, it also needs a silencer along with a buff to the fire rate.
Cordite actually shreds, flanking big groups of people 😍
In my personal opinion, I think the Mozu with skull splitter is the best gun in the game. I got 53 kills in a game of TDM with this thing. It is a one shot kill at any range as long as you get one headshot and it also fires fairly quick so even if you miss the first shot, your TTK is still crazy fast. But other than that I can completely agree with this top 5 (although I haven’t tried the Damon out yet)
The Daemon absolutely shreds!
I agree! The Daemon needs the NVIR attachment
I wish I could test these out, but the current lag caused by players leaving or entering is too much. I’m waiting out until there’s a fix.
*NEEDS BUFF OR NERF*
1. Titan nerf
2. Gks remove 9 shot range (buff)
3. Icr movement ads move speed buff
4. Rampage nerf
5. Vapr stiletto buff
The swat,aug,dameon,abr,vapr are my top 5 guns I run
I run the Auger with HiCalx2 and FMJx2 and red dot. Hung ho and Crash. I can use it for everything even taking down scorestreaks.
Why fmj 2
@@lukaaz2419 to take down streaks. (i dont like doing this but well.. some people do.)
Paladin fmj 2 is better tho
@@lukaaz2419 I dont set up every class this way, but I like being able to use one weapon for everything. Instead of switching to a launcher to take out a streak I can just aim and shoot.
To be honest, I always use Daemon 3XB some time, with the Sniper Scope on though, but still good to be honest.
In my opinion, they need to buff the icr. I know it's a niche weapon, but the only reasonable attachments are quickdraw and grip. They need to give it rapidfire, high caliber, stock, or at least hybrid mags. This will make the icr more flexible
I disagree. If every gun is flexible then things get stale. Do you use Grip 2? imo ICR with Grip 2 is one of the strongest mid-long range guns.
Can you do a video on the current best guns for hardcore game modes ?
Maddox, quick draw 2 maybe
I might do this soon!
TheXclusiveAce thanks for the reply that would be awesome. Keep up the content 👍🏼👍🏼
Why when others use the Cordite the gun is almost no recoil, but when I am using it the gun goes in the sky?
You forgot to talk about the kn-57s insanely quick reload, in my little bit of time playing most of my deaths have been when I don't have time to reload between gunfights, but with the kn-57 you could reload halfway through a fight and still have a chance
Gotta love Hybrid Mags...
Game is still broken af. Gun balancing is good and all, but the matchmaking sucks and the bugs are uncoutable
Which bugs? I haven't ran into any. Matchmaking is ass tho. I'm always stuck with the Timmys and I'm the only one going positive while they all are negative..
Matchmaking is horrible
Gun balance is terrible too. It makes zero sense that guns like the KN can kill in 4 shots while it takes a minimum of five shots to kill with the Swordfish.
Darian Carmichel swordfish still kills faster with penta or high cal or both
@@poorandstupid except you can reduce your ttk with the swordfish and insta melt people with the operator mod.
You missed the Grip 2 ICR which kills anything at medium to long range. Also missed the saug, especially with stock 2, you just dodge bullets.
Ali Jbr stock 2 on a saug had me baffled like how is this guy doing this dodging bullet like neo
I play Hardcore so every gun that kills in one bullet is fine. Most of the SMGs don’t kill in one bullet though, and body armor makes that problem even worse. But I guess there will never be separate weapon balancing for hardcore players so I just have to deal with it.
i agree with this list entirely, i use all these guns depending on the map. but i think the vapr should of got an honorable mention as well.
I'm Japanese and I really wanna know your opinion on swordfish. that's so op isn't it?
1. Rampart
2. Vapr
3. Auger
4. Daemon 3XB
5. Hades
I personally prefer the swat over any other weapon in the game. It's a great tactical rifle if you run all the tactical attachments including suppressor and thermal and it had a surprisingly reliable hip fire.
I loved the Cordite and Daemon even before they got buffed, so seeing them like this now makes me so happy.
1.Rampart
2.Swordfish
3.daemon
4.That one tactical rifle
5.Titain
Titain lol
The tactical is the auger btw
•Skipper • yea auger
the cordite has a little bit too much recoil, I would appreciate it if they would lower it a bit.
That’s why the foregrip is available for people like you! (This is not an insult...)
I honestly still think the Maddox is still one of the greatest guns. It had decent damage with 5-6 shot kills and super easy recoil to control. And it works great for medium and close range and maybe long range if u can land your shots. I personally play competitive more so yea
A hardcore list would be cool. I'd say the #1 gun in Hardcore is the GKS. Those double long barrel attachments are unstoppable against ANY gun.
My first cordite class setup was fmj1 reflex grip extends mags my second elo fmj1 extened mags and rapid fire my third fmj1 rapid fire operator mod now double fmj extended mags and rapid fire and this is the number one channel for tips&tricks
I play bo4 and I have to say In my opinion the Hades deserves to be on here especially if you equipped the operator mod on it
I would say:
1. Daemon
2. Swordfish
3. KN
4. Rampart
5. Hades
I prefer using the KN if I need a strong weapon - or when pissed off by the overwhelming use of the Swordfish, which I believe many Japanese players complain about
When your salty you use op when weapons haha loser
Daemon definitely number 1 for me. For some reason, however, the KN and Cordite are complete garbage in my hands. I don’t know why. The Maddox still works well for me, but only with both laser sights.
Michael Killey Definitely think the Daemon is the #1 gun, just played COD for the first time since Mk 11 dropped and I could definitely tell. But you can’t go wrong with the KN with any attachment and try the Cordite with long barrel, rapid fire and extended mags. Shreds for me
Maddox is still Nr.1 imho. With the right attachments you can outgun Smgs, ARs and LMGs all alike with this one. No other gun is that balanced and versatile!
1) Daemon
2) Vapor
3) swat
4) GSK
5) Kn 94
My top guns now are daemon and KN57. I think KN is over all best AR now, like you said its just so versatile. Better then Maddox now ( with rapid fire ) which was best most versatile AR, just as versatile but has faster ttk up close, and better at range since the Maddox recoil nerf. Love the daemon it's my favorite gun now, always loved burst weapons.
Daemon has been my favorite weapon ever since it was released.
Great list! I still put the Maddox above all others at #1
Eric Pearson Maddox is harder to use than these guns, so I understand the list as a pubs gun list. But it's definitely the best all around gun
I don't understand why all guns don't have quickdraw
Or silencer, like wtf?
日本ではsword fishが1番使われています。
In Japan, the weapon called swordfish is used first
公開マッチではswordfishやマウスが多いので日本ではとても嫌われています。
It is highly hated in Japan because there are many swordfish and computer mouse in public matches.
Ace, this Guide is just good. You should have added a 14 second Blackscreen to add some ads, it would have been so deserved.
I don't feel that would've been fair of me since I included an ad read in the video itself but I really appreciate the support!
@@TheXclusiveAce I know you are a really nice guy and you don't want to do that but even the add of one short funny clip would make a difference 50? Dollar or more. If Content Creators do a great job they deserve it.
Swordfish is underrated, I hit a nuke yesterday using this gun.
Try it:
Swordfish:
Operator mod
Reflex
Quickdraw
Hybrid mags
Stim shot
Gun ho
Scavenger
I hate the Swordfish's operator mod. To me, it's too hard to land all five shots needed for a one burst.
Agree with the list. But I kinda want to substitute the cordite for the swordfish with the operator mod
The titan and tiger shark are easily top 10, if not approaching the top 5. They are both ridiculous.
Gotta admit... I was pretty shocked not to see the titan along side that rampart given the reason you chose the rampart.. that FMJ II is nasty.. i was also surprised not to see the MX9
So Ace, what are your "must have" attachments for #1?
It's easy to make a case for Rapid Fire & Hybrid Mags, but if you going to run High Cal, you need to run High Cal II. Where do you make the sacrifice?
I can't choose, just gonna run all 4!
mx9 deserves a spot i think
OMG...I just started using the Daemon about a week or 1 1/2 weeks ago or so when Ace recommended it after the patch. Damn...I've been having so much fun with this gun. It actually made mp fun again. I'm gonna keep using this thing and level it up. Thanks for the info Ace!!!
Highly doubt the daemon is the best weapon right now honestly cannot see why haven't had any good luck. And to not see the mx9 as even honorable mentions surprises me I feel like it's got a lot of good potential.
this is the best guide i’ve seen i wouldn’t change a thing on this list you are definitely the best cod youtuber out there
Hey good video although I don't agree completely with the list. I think the problem with it is that it's mainly based on time to kill, when there are many factors to weigh in when considering a gun - recoil is a big one (accuracy), clip size, versatility, just to name a few. For example the ICR doesn't kill extremely fast but it's still the most dominant from range with the double grip. The Maddox is an all around best weapon for those one on ones, even beats the smgs if you're good with it. The problem with those guns listed is that they rely on the attachments but in their base form the guns are not great. I'd definitely but the saug up there after the icr, Maddox. My opinion though.
Even though the cordite is a rip off of the pdw it doesn't feel fun to use like the pdw. Not sure if it's because of bo4s ttk or the sound of the weapon
Lol its basically just a p90
@@gurneygang9625 a p90 that looks like a block of cheese
@@peoplegetslapped1502 looks kinda different but when you think about gameplay wise they're the same
Ace: "Switchblade x9 is the best close range smg"
Spitfire: *Am i a joke to you?*
yea spitfire is a joke
The daemon with HC2 and rf kills 25% faster than the Spitfire with Wild Fire
My opinion is
5:saug
4:saug
3:saug
2:saug
1:saug
Maybe I’ll change 1 for 2 I don’t know
These are the weapons I see ppl use the most (in no particular order)
1. Rampart 17
2. KN 57
3. Maddox
4. Deamon 3XB
5. Smaug 9mm
6. Switch blade
7. VKM
8. Titan
Prior to recent buffs instead of the Switch Blade and Deamon 3XB i would see the Spitfire and Cordite
Also I see the new LMG the Tiger Shark
Good list, I’d personally put the Switchblade over the Cordite since they have identical damage/range values but with much better handling and a faster fire rate on the Switchblade with both having Rapid Fire (or II).
Recoil is iffy for both but good enough even without Grip if you can control them.
You know what's weird? Yesterday I had the most fun with bo4 since launch. I really enjoy the new content additions that came with spectre rising. The maps are great and I got serious classic cod vibes at times.
That is weird... are you running a fever? Maybe you should sit down. Have you considered seeing a doctor?
Nathan White You’re the one with a fever, trust me, I’m a doctor
@@muttakeenhabib4299 🤣😷 oh crap, what should I do doc?
Did you take drugs that day bro? Its really a bad game its multiplayer only and it has really bad content for a multiplayer only game and its not free to play so i dont agree on that one , i dont have a season pass , but people with season pass are fuckt again lol , im a die hard cod fan and every game was goof for me , even infinite warfare , but ww2 and bops4 are games that where not ready at all to launch so no they fail every year in a lot of stuff , the last 4 years for a lot of people but for me the last 2 years , i prefer that they delay the launchdate and that it comes out one or two months later so they can work day and night about the bugs and balancing stuff than launching crap and let people play a game for 6months thats not even is ready to launch , im just saying man there are really stuff that must be there at launch like leaderbords , more weapons and more attachments and making specialists that are fun to play , whats fun about the fact you earn killstreaks like uav but you have fog of war and that stupid sensor everybody puts on? The perk ghost has no effect at all in this game and dead silence also not cause i hear people still from far awar even when they have it on? Also if you have a a chopper or gunship or whatever high killstreak you have earned , lets stand still about this specialist for a second, why the fuck you can hack killstreaks , whats the point of earning killstreaks than , its really not fun to play this year and no im not a prestige 2 and a noob with 0.5 k.d , im Lv 240 master prestige and having a k.d of 4.80 but im really not enjoying it , im just playing it cause my friends still do and because i just hope there finally comes a day with a big update but that everything is solved 😒
Nathan White Respect other people’s opinions. That will cure it in no time
My top 5 best guns
1st Vkm (with high cal II)
2nd Kn 57
3rd Swat rft
4th Switchblade x9
5th Vapr xkg
I would swap vkm with vaper
No Maddox? I also think vapor top 5
I would make the maddox a honorable mention, but the reason its not in the top 5 is because two months ago it got a huge nerf all of the best attachment for the Maddox Quickdraw 1 and 2, stock, Elo sight there all nerfed the thing it got buff is operator mod Echo fire (that mod sucks btw) so that is my reason why the maddox is a honorable mention instead of the top 5.
Ok fair enough vkm does a slower rate so I can see why the vapr xkg is the best weapon.
If wouldn't for that huge nerf for the maddox two months ago I would easily put it in 1st place same thing with the Saug 9mm.
The mx9 is my go to when I’m having a bad start to a game
Hey Ace, what do u think of all guns not having the same attachments? Do u think that having that dictates the role of the gun instead of the player picking different attachments to determine the role?
Hey Guys and Ace 🤗. Guys, I have just ordered the *Black Ops 4 PS4 Slim bundle* with 500 million limited edition extra controller. I heard about the colossal 50 gb day 1 patch. If I kept my PS4 not connected to Internet, can I play offline splitscreen with my cousin without downloading that huge patch? I am yet to buy PS Plus subscription. PLEASE ANSWER GUYS 🤘
ps5 is coming out next year
@@nisaac1216 I will buy it next year but until then please reply to my above question if you know the answer
I agree... Except i would swap the cordite and the rampart.
Been waiting for this vid since operation spectre when smg were buffed
Ik you’re probably a pro, or close to it, seeing your gameplay and sub count... but daemon at #1 on your list!? I’m not knocking but it’s surprising to me. I personally can’t stand it, i felt like it had too much recoil. Maybe i didn’t give it enough time to get used to it . Perhaps i should try again.
Ryan Mitchell Definitely the best gun in the game currently and I try every gun besides snipers and shotguns. If you can consistently aim for the upper chest and/or head, it is for sure the best gun in the game
could you please show your stats and medals and challenges complete? it would be great.
Yes, yes, yes!
How much would your list change if you were playing HC ?
A lot
Completely. I don't think any of these would be in my top 5 for HC
maybe do another for HC.... hint hint...lol
the kn57 and now that i have a swat, are my favorite assault rifles, my favorite submachine guns are the switchblade and daemon, my favorite tac rifle is the abr, i love the sdm and the rampage is fun to use
#5 KN57
#4 TITAN
#3 ABR227
#2 SG12
#1 MOG12
XclusiveAce:
What do you think are the best guns?
Me:
5. Strife - Trigger Finger-Wise
4. Switchblade - With Rapid Fire 2 & Hybrid Mags, controlling the recoil is reasonable, but good in my opinion.
3. Swat RFT - I love the ICR-7, and the Swat's basically the Versatile Version of it.
2. KN-57 - One of the best ttks in the game without the need of Grip.
1. Hades - The OP Mod is so much fun WITHOUT Rapid Fire.
your integrity is very admirable ace, no clickbait nonsense
Nice to meet you. I am Japanese but I always look forward to Ace's videos.
In Japan, Swordfish are considered to be the strongest, but are they not highly valued there?
Its considered cheap over here, just like every gun on this list except the cordite
love the daemon,rapid fire,hybrid mags & elo + my trigger finger:)
also my top 5
1 Daemon
2 Rampart
3 VAPR
4 MOG12
5 Swordfish
The cordite got me my highest kill game, higher then when I got lucky and got a gun ship from a care package while for the gunship game I got 37 kills and for the cordite I got 48 but the cordite game was on nuketown while the gunship game was on firing range
Sure would be cool if the best gun wasn't locked behind lootboxes if you missed the operation but you do you, Treyarch.
So you cant still get the weapon in reserve cases
@@sohail.a375 pretty sure you can, it's just incredibly rare
@@OkenaVids oh ok thanks for the heads up
No Maddox? Still one of the most melty guns in the game
All of the guns in my list have a noticeably faster TTK than the Maddox. The Maddox is still great and definitely top tier in competitive but in pubs it's not the best due to a lack of attachment restrictions.
Thanks for another Good video, but how about putting the loadouts in the description or a screenshot in the video.
I'm so glad I grinded for the Switchblade despite it being only average, cos I knew they might pull something like this and buff it to a good extent. Also, getting the MKII Daemon just before the buff was so good too, I now have the 2 best guns in the game that are incredibly rare now that Shitarch has flooded the reserves with filler. Shame there is an element of pay to win in this game now.
Recently got BO4 for the July 2021 Free PS Plus games so I had to be aware of the tryhard guns 😂
You left out the Maddox!
Jason G Maddox isn’t really that great after recoil nerf
That gun is horrible for me
Statistically, the MX9 is not Top 5, but it feels really good when I use it with certain attachments.
Djthegamer988 like what attachments?
@@slpwlkr73 - I run it with Hybrid Mags, Stock, and Rapid Fire.
Sometimes I'll use Suppressor