Ubiquiti U7 Pro WiFi 7 AP Review & Tests: Should you stick with the U6 Pro or the LR?
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
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0:00 Introduction
1:32 Design and Build Quality
2:50 Thermal Management (the FAN!)
3:42 Quick Teardown
4:50 WiFi Features Overview
5:56 Single-client Tests
8:24 Multi-client Stress Tests
15:38 The UniFi Platform
17:38 The Mobile App
17:48 Conclusion
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Your channel is amazing and very underrated.. Great thorough work with clear easy to understand data.. Bravo.
Thank you very much!
Great review! Subscribed. Excellent depth in your testing. I have three of these so I’m hoping that much of the latency you detected has been resolved with firmware updates.
Wow... Amazing quality content.
This is some good stuff, keep it up
lol gave me a heart attack dude, lol. I recently ordered a lot of Ubiquity equipment for 3 locations, grandfather house, business, and our place. Then I see a rash of new videos for new Unifi products and was like WTH, I just ordered the wrong U6 Pro. But in this case, I just didn't remember but I actually got the U7, and have been very happy with it so far. We actually go the U6 in wall for the business and were surprised by the range it has. We have a 3200 SF warehouse with a small office in one corner. The U6 in wall is inside the small office but actually covers the entire warehouse.
6Ghz has issues penetrating walls. You will need one in nearly every room. 5GHz can penetrate a couple of walls and the old 2.4 GHz can penetrate 3-5 walls. Just be aware. The fan is also a maintenance issue. A large surface area heat sink option would have been better. Think of it this way. When the fan has issues, the AP will simply slow down. You may be wondering why you are having slow connectivity. If they added a red LED that stays off unless there is a fan issue, that would be helpful. At present, you will need to log into the UI to find out if everything is healthy. You will also notice the difference on your power bills. Think $10-$20 per month for a set of four AP's which would be the minimum in the average three bedroom house to get high speed all the time. Basements are extra.
Not sure why you state the power bills will go up so much when Ubiquiti states that the U7-Pro-US's max power is 21 watts. Am I missing something?
It's not so good that it goes through so many walls.
USA Law (Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975); Warranty CANNOT be voided simply by opening the device. Manufacture has to prove that whatever the consumer did caused the device to fail. Burden of proving that is on the manufacture.
Only cosmetic damage was done. So the case will not be replaced under warranty.
But if you replace the fan and the device failed to power up and/or function afterwards.
The manufacture has to prove that by you replacing the fan broke the device (HIGHLY unlikely if you know basic electronics)
Thank you for the detailed information and I will make sure to mention it in the future teardowns. I suppose I watched a bit too many Louis Rossmann videos, which is why I think it's better to try to open the device without leaving any marks because it can be a pain to fight with the manufacturers even if the law is on your side..
@@SamsTechnologyReviews I agree. It is a pain to fight. But fight anyway. Otherwise they will continue to get away with it. That's why these corporations say what they say. Because no one fights them on it.
Oh, I will.
@@TheIceLeopard Sure, I am not a fan of many other practices, especially the current state of the right to repair.
Louis Rossman for the win
Thanks! Would it be possible that you test the Cisco Meraki 6E APs, CW9162, 9164, 9166, using similar approach in this video? Look forward to that!
I will ask Cisco to let me borrow a few units since they're a bit pricey, but yes, I will definitely test these access points if I get my hands on them.
MLO support update released a few days ago
They updated the UniFi controller to support it, but it seems that MLO requires version v7.1.3 on the U7 Pro to work. Currently, the version 7.0.47 is available on Ubiquiti's website.
Which one has better WiFi performance between Zyxel NWA130BE and Unifi U7-PRO? I'm not too fond of the fan design in the U7-PRO, as I'm concerned about potential noise and overheating issues. Additionally, Zyxel Nebula cloud management is simpler and more user-friendly, eliminating the need for hardware or software controllers.
don't worry about the sound of the fan, i've had the U7 Pro for about 2 months and only found out it has a fan by watching this video
I didn’t see MU-MIMO specified on the product page for the U7 Pro. How do you know it’s supported?
I am fairly sure that it's UL MU-MIMO, as it was on the U6 Pro (2.4GHz), but I will check again to be sure once I get back to the office.
@@SamsTechnologyReviews did you ever confirm?
@@adamalix I just checked it again and the SoC (IPQ5018) does support MU-MIMO, but Ubiquiti did not clearly state it on their website. Maybe it is now such a common feature that they didn't bother adding it to the list or Ubiquiti truly did not enable it. I am not sure at the moment.
@@SamsTechnologyReviews i think for the U7 Pro it's IPQ5332 which does say MU-MIMO (UL/DL). i'll see if i can run a PCAP to detect when my U7 pro max gets in.
@@adamalix Yes, sorry, it's the IPQ5332 (I actually did the teardown..). I ran Wireshark this morning to get an idea whether MU-MIMO is actually supported, but unfortunately, I could not see it in the beacon info. I also sent a ticket to Ubiquiti so they can confirm that MU-MIMO support is indeed missing from the U7 Pro.
The U7 Pro is complete garbage. Ubiquiti should have called it the U7 Lite as that is more applicable. Only 2x2 MIMO, no Bluetooth (so no multi sensor compatibility), only 2.5Gb RJ45 and $30 more than a "real" Pro version in the U6 lineup. This access point is not worth the extra money over the U6 Pro. I have 3x U6 Pros and I was going to upgrade them but not after seeing the U7 Pro's specs. Ubiquiti should be ashamed of themselves. They had this AP in the works for quite some time while releasing expensive 2.5Gb PoE+ switches when they should have been releasing 5Gb PoE++ switches to support real world WiFi 7 speeds and power requirements for their AP's and PoE pass through devices.
Which AP would you recommend?
They did that also at the very beginning when the U6 line came out, by introducing two so-so models and one of them a non-pro standard model that honestly was just a lite. I was lucky and only got one which is fine for personal / testing use, but I'd not get another of those for any reason at all.
Tl;dr wait a year for useful models.
@@udirt Wait a year for AP's with no Bluetooth support for the Protect AIO Sensor and terrible specifications like the U7 Pro Max and In-Wall that were released a couple days ago? No thanks. I can't justify their new ridiculously high pricing schemes to go backwards in nearly every feature set.
Can I have two ap with different WiFi technology? For example u7 pro and 6pro in the same network?
You should be able to use the U7 Pro and the U6 Pro in a mesh system (Uplink), yes. Also, I played around a few years back with the U6 Pro and the nanoHD, and I could connect both to a larger mesh network.
You can mix different kinds of APs but I guess roaming could get a problem with all frequencies so you will most likely experience a short break. Devices with 2,4 and 5ghz will work without problems I guess.
2:57 Very dissapointed that they used a cheap laptop fan instead of a larger heat sink. Shame on Ubiquiti!
¿Cómo hiciste para obtener esa cantidad de milisegundos?
I used the open-source tools net-hydra. You can find them on Github. There is also flent that you can use to see the latency.
A fan in an accesspoint because its cheaper than actually designing it to passively radiate heat! Ubiquiti stuff is badly designed and built to a very cheap price point (snapping a case together saves money than having someone screw the halves together, it might only save a few cents but that's how far they are willing to go to maximize their profit) and not build to last or be repairable! My Zyxel access point, for the same price is heavy and solid because it has a proper metal heatsink and screening cans. The one and only Ubiquiti accesspoint I bought (I wasn't going to be ripped off twice) had the heatsink design as a several heat conductive sponge pads on the back of the PCB behind the chips coupled to the plastic case, how that is suppose to offer any cooling? One of the pads was so misaligned it wasn't doing anything. Ubiquiti have a cult following though.
So it can't hit more than 1570Mbps ? Not even maxing out the 2.5Gbe port. Is that correct ? Kinda disapointing, is it using MLO at this point? I'm interested in buying this but not if it can't do a minimum of 2.5Gbps on a 2x2 wifi 7 client.
Or maybe u are only using 160MHz channels?
On WiFi, there is pretty much no chance to get 2.5Gbps with the current technology, even with the 6GHz radio band. There is a lot going on in this medium to severely limit the throughput (interference, overhead and many more). As for MLO, it's still not enabled on the U7 Pro, although Ubiquiti continues to swear that it's right around the corner.
@@pvdgucht No, I used the 320MHz channel bandwidth when I checked the throughput using the 6GHz radio band.
@@SamsTechnologyReviews ow well I’ve seen other CZcamsrs getting 3.5Gbps real world speeds on wifi 7 on a mobile device.
And I researched some more and saw that another person was able to get 2.3Gbps on the u7 Pro so idk what u did differently or if it depends on the client devices capability.
But this make me doubt which device to buy.. now im not so sure about the u7 pro. Really looking for a 2.5Gbps real world speed solution maybe MLO will bring that idk
@@pvdgucht It really depends on the client devices. You mentioned mobile and indeed, there are some smartphones out there right now that support MLO and the 6GHz radio, and yes, you will see a far better throughput than I did with my clients. There are currently limitations in place put by both the hardware (adapter) and software (Windows and Linux), so if you use similar devices to mine, it's not going to get better since there is no support for MLO yet. I am curious though about who managed to reach 2.3Gbps on a U7 Pro using WiFi. Can you name the site or channel? I am very interested to see what hardware they used.
I'm finding that WIFi 7 performance is not very good, My WiFi 6E devices saturate my 1.5 Gbps connection while my Pixel 8 Pro with WiFi 7 fluctuates between 400 - 900 Mbps max download speed
The Ubiquity LR products are worthless in EU because they are not allowed to transmit with higher power than those no LR products. There is a max WiFi power limit and operating one outside those can bring you depending on the country in bad problems. You can enable the higher power limit by picking US as your country but this will enable also regulated WiFi frequencies and using those will be definitely detected and punished.
This was an interesting aspect you brought up and yes, it's true that there is a difference between the EU and the US in terms of EIRP. Would I call them worthless for this reason alone, not really, but yes, the range will be slightly worse in the EU. I assume that the reason is because of the denser population clusters, so having everyone broadcasting their WiFi signal on same channels is not going to fare well..
@@SamsTechnologyReviews max transmit power is 20mw in EU and 100mw in US. There is absolutely no difference in range from my experience comparing LR and non LR products both are limited below the US specs.
@@Amixus I know and I agree. I did test the U6 Pro and the U6 LR before outside the US, and got similar results as you did.
@SamsTechnologyReviews now I finally know why the one LR I put in place at a client had no sensible extra effect.
Not a big fan of any of the pro access points. I always do the enterprise units the only ap"s I use. The pro's always seem to disappoint .
Wait another year don’t spend the money not worth it yet!!