So soll es immer sein! Allerdings sollte einem schon bewußt sein, was einen erwartet, wenn Stelvio oder Gavia im Roadbook stehen! Da braucht man mit fahrenden Einbauküchen oder Aufsitztraktoren nicht antreten - es sei denn man kennst sein Gerät in jeder Lebenslage genau! Zum Posen oder für die persönliche Bucketlist sind diese beiden Pässe absolut ungeeignet!
Great video. It can happen to the best of us, Myself included. I was more embarrassed than hurt,and this was in England not those super hairpin bends of the Stelvio and others. Best wished to all who helped.
@@bmw-sepp8722 Try Gavia and you'll love Stelvio. I did both crashless with my old ZXR750, but I will never forget. Perhaps now I'm too old to do it again...
Indeed. Stelvio is raved about quite a lot and it does deserve the reputation. But it is rarely mentioned how tight and funky angled these tight hairpins can be. Especially if there is traffic. It's not for the inexperienced. Starting off with some other passes and practicing by taking the tightest lines through those should make one better prepared. Those who routinely cut corners, always use both lanes when starting and finishing can be taken by surprise here. And this can still happen with experienced riders, too.
Everyone who laughs or makes fun of here isn´t a real biker. The guys who stopped and helped are real Bikers! Don´t drive faster than your Guardian Angel can fly.
Happened to me with my Africa Twin bang in the middle of a very busy set of traffic lights in Central London. Another Africa Twin rider parked next time and helped me lifting the beast to show everyone that I was in need. I promised myself 'never again'...until it does🤣
I am 33 years old, and next year I want to buy a bike and work two jobs for it. And when I see something like this, I am even more unto it! It is so lovely to see you help them.
Tristezza assoluta leggere commenti di centauri che scrivono frasi poco corrette tipo " state a casa" comprate moto a 3 ruote" compratevi una bicicletta" Vi ricordo che può capitare a tutti di cadere e vi auguro sia così senza nessun danno fisico, lo stelvio l'ho fatto parecchie volte purtroppo ci sono persone soprattutto se si viaggia carichi e in 2 che nei tornanti stretti "sbagliano" ma chi non ha sbagliato anche solo una volta. Poi ricoche essere centauri vuol dire far parte di una grande famiglia.
certo, come se la bici fosse più facile. in montagna con quelle pendenze, tanti km e tante curve, e soprattutto posizione per nulla comodo e copertoni stretti, è altrettanto probabile cadere. comunque nel 2° caso il tipo è caduto perché con quel peso non puoi piegare senza sbilanciarti. viaggiando così, io non farei mai tutti quei tornanti!
There will always be idiots/imbeciles that have to be a wise ass and disrespect those who fall. I bet those who claim why people buy to big a bike, or only ride on weekends, have never made the Stelvio or anything farther then 100km from their home. I made the Stelvio, did not drop the bike there, but days before in Germany let it fall 3 times in one day! Who has never dropped the bike, has never made a big journey!
That's the right comment. Can happen to anybody. I'm a rather skilled rider. I climbed so many passes all over Europe that I lost counting. Never dropped my bike. Got myself a BMW K1600 GTL in 2015, you can't get much heavier than that. Never had an issue on mountain roads, even tricky ones, but dropped the bike 3 times on idle. Shit happens, it's as simple as that. Taking bends on mountain roads is basically a question of confidence. The slightest hesitation and you're done...
Drove the Stelvio twice, once alone, second time with a passenger. On a really heavy bike at that (BMW K1600GTL). Had no issues honestly, although the weather was really bad the first time (it was kinda snowing), but I have to admit it's a tricky place, even with considerable experience. The ramps are pretty harsh and the road in the corners is in a very poor condition at times. But hey, that pass is a legend, it should be on every rider's bucket list. 🙂
Mt front wheel slipped out going up one pass, reckon roads become shiny plus all the weight is back on my GS with panniers loaded. I slow now on the tight corners
It's easy to do I've done it a couple of times two up on a fully loaded Ducati Multistrada. I'm only 5'9" and just kept it as smooth as possible and no way did I want to have to stop on any of the hairpins. Best advice be smooth be alert and never do it at the end of a long day in the saddle. It's iconic but not that nice to ride.
@@Klappstuhlmaster everyone can make mistakes. Those corners are tight if you're not used to them. Take them to sharp and slow with that much weight and you can easily stall and drop the bike.
Just a question of practice I traveled this year the first time through the alps with my street triple r + 2 side bags, tank bag & girlfriend and had 0 drops because I watched CZcams videos before how to drive these tight corners. Btw. 2. Year of motorcycling
Stelvio is a great riding school... up and down... thousand times... with every weather...and you could drive everywhere... try also Gavia...or Vivione... much worst turns...haha
Anyone who truly finds them "a nightmare" should not be riding them. As |I see it, the skill level of the first rider has to be questioned, and the second rider thinks riding a bike laden like a pack-horse is a wise thing to do on hairpin bends that are on 45 degree slopes. All the gear, no idea...
Happens to all of us - unless the bike is parked in the garage all the time! And do not forget, fellas, .... take your time, catch your breath and first THINK about what and how to do next, before you try and get the bike up again in a hurry. Don´t be embarrassed - THINK! Otherwise the next mishap wll happen right away. Be save, everybody!
Probably because they temporarily lost their mind a little bit That tend to happen after someone dropped the bike They became too nervous and forgot about what they should do
how do you like the 690 as a touring bike? I'm up in the air deciding between that, the 701(same bike, i know), and something bigger like an f800gs. the lightweight of the 690 would be nice but how does it hold up to highway use/etc?
i did the conversion (the dakar kit) because i off road a lot , in the highway not so good at 110 kilometer you are ok above that good luck :) , its a one cylinder engine so don't expect much on highway. i did the conversion back in 2017 before the 790 R. if i buy a motorcycle now i would choose 790r two cylinder engine fuel tank low , quick shifter, cruise control& more power. hope this helps . but in the end it depends what you want to do !!!
@@690adv2 790r is good in theory, in reality the clutch isn't suited for offroad abuse(very small diameter.. smaller than the 300 EXC bikes) and the 1st gear is very very tall.. a bad combo. oh and it has no low end power for tractoring up hills, you have to keep it above 4k so that adds to the clutch abuse. if you regear it then 6th becomes too low for highway use. Thanks for the suggestion though. i don't mind singles on the highway, hell i was riding a himalayan on the highway until recently and it did okay at 120. low vibes, etc. and yeah, i only ask because I like offroading too but the idea of a 450lb bike offroad is a bit much, add baggage on that and it becomes over 500 easily.
Sullo stelvio ( da automobilista ) mi è capitato di aiutare motociclisti a terra.. quindi per me in strada ci si aiuta .. un appello ai bikers : in montagna moderate la velocità .. l' automobilista rischia talvolta che da una curva esca un proiettile e purtroppo l' auto ha dimensioni doppie di una moto .. diventano un rischio qualsiasi sorpasso..
That why I'd not buy a GS 1200, too heavy, "- Light is better" for long travels. And I prefer to use soft gears. I've a BMW R 1200 R Classic, perfect for sinuous roads, highways but for a very long and exotic travels, I would try to have a mono 650cc, preferably with a minimum electronics. I like the AJP 650, the KTM adv LC 640 x and yours of course :-)
"Its the obligation of the strong to protect the weak & innocent from evil men who would prey on them" Jon Robinson (my Father)...
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Which laguange are you guys speaking with the second rider that fall off? Because at first i understood both spanish and a bit of english, but then the other languages i did not understand, it sound to me like a arabic language but i am just guessing, my ear is not use to those sounds, i am just curious :P Great attitude helping this bikers as it should be done :)
Ma quando mai???? Ormai sono 1 su 20 quelli che si fermano ad aiutare. Lavoro allo Stelvio da anni e ne ho viste di moto a terra con decine di altre passare guardando. La razza dei motociclisti è ormai estinta. Ci sono ormai solo possessori di moto.
Drove the Stelvio many times...allways with passenger and travelling luggage. It is no surprise, the net is full of crashes, fails and falls at the stelvio. Use your brains, practice, take a safety course, take a green pea between your teeth. If you can drive for 10 minutes without crushing it... you have passed. Try it...take care.
With my BMW K1600 GTL, I would have to lift quite a few stones in the gym to get that far. :-D Mind you, I climbed that side of the Stelvio with that bike in freezing cold weather and rain almost transforming into snow, I have to admit I was lucky to reach the top without any scratches. The bends are not only tight, they are also very steep in the Stelvio (if you stall, you're dead, with any bike frankly). And the trafic, even in bad weather, is always mind-blowing. I did it once for the record, but didn't particularly enjoy it... not because of the weather in my case, but due to the trafic. There's always something or someone getting stuck along the pass, so damn annoying. The "Route des Grandes Alpes" is so more fun...
@@guitounours I just recently rode the Stelvio with a friend of mine and it was beautiful. There was very little traffic (well maybe because of corona).
It's a bit more nuanced than that. The first bike wasn't all that heavy, but the angle made it hard. The second bike was heavy, but if they hadn't helped him he would have taken off his cases and sorted it out himself. Exhaustion also matters a lot, I don't know what state the riders were in. Neither of these people were in big trouble, this was just a much faster and nicer solution.
Die Bikes werden auch immer schwerer! Hatte auch immer so viel Gepäck aber meine 600 Tenere war nicht so schwer. Notfalls muss man halt zuerst abladen!
Big adventure bikes are too much of a handful for all but incredible hulks in their prime. I had a Honda varadero 1000 nice under way but in reality too heavy and that's just for solo work add a passenger forget about it. I also had a Honda transalp 600 it was like a mountain goat it could go any where walking trails in the forest even. I will buy another transalp in the future a 650 for touring as it can do the most extreme trails.
Per la mia esperienza lo Stelvio ha tornanti stretti ,bellissimo posto ma la strada é una delle più brutte tra tutti i passi che ho fatto (qst anno fatto con AfricaTwin 2018)
@ekim andersom It wasn't a sentence it was a statement it didn't contain verbs, comers can be hard to place correctly in the English language even for professionals if the field, has time as passed and we all get used to text messages and abbreviations the written English as changed to a later form, that's why sometimes we just produce lists not proper sentences, end result is usually the same, I stand by by statement if you have dinky little legs keep off the pass. All the best stay safe in these dark times.
I am also a biker and i ask me : where the hell should the fun be to drive on a pass road and such one like the Stelvio ??!! Did we have not enough oder roads ?!?
The hairpin angles are much tighter on the Stelvio than Austrian, French, German and Swiss mountain passes. God help those riders, during the day on the hairpins(45+) you have to battle with cyclists, camper vans and coaches. Viewers may disagree but I think the Stelvio is over rated, do it once and that’s it, plenty of other less travelled passes to enjoy. If you want to ride the Stelvio, either very early morning or late evening, avoiding most of the tourist traffic. Just us mad motorcyclists at unearthly hours, good to see the camaraderie in the unfortunate circumstances.
Jean Jacques finally a person knows what he is talking about. I thought i post my video for people to watch and maybe enjoy or learn. Now I’m not sure if its woth the hassles:)
690 adv Keep up the good work with the videos, if you receive abusive comments block them, ultimately turn off comments. It’s very disappointing to hear of your negative experiences, it’s an awful lot of work to produce these videos for sharing your love of motorcycling. Don’t let the buggers get you down.
I'm amazed that not one of these guys knows how to lift a bike off it's side. You back into it, grab on to something that won't break, and use your legs not your back to lift. I'm 68 years old, 160 pounds, 5'6" and I can lift my 900 pound Victory off it's side by myself. Get it up to first base where you can push back with your thighs, take a breather and then lift to the top.
wtf is this?? in my country,when u r taking the exam to getting the license,you have to do a "slow-course"-manuvering the bike at walkingspeed thru some cones and then make a sharp 180-turna,dn the back again thru the cones-all in walkingspeed,if u put your foot down-u fail...theese people need to train on somethins similar,because that's what obviously happens..they cant manuver at slow speed..clutch,handbrake and throttle-and a good balance,something all bikers shoud learn
The fraternity of riders.. feels good to be a part of it!
Great video. I've had a few troubles over the years, and motorcycle riders always stop to help. It's a great fraternity.
Das sind halt Motorradfahrer unter sich, man helft sich auch wenn man sich nicht kennt, selbst wenn die Sprache verschieden ist
So soll es immer sein!
Allerdings sollte einem schon bewußt sein, was einen erwartet, wenn Stelvio oder Gavia im Roadbook stehen! Da braucht man mit fahrenden Einbauküchen oder Aufsitztraktoren nicht antreten - es sei denn man kennst sein Gerät in jeder Lebenslage genau! Zum Posen oder für die persönliche Bucketlist sind diese beiden Pässe absolut ungeeignet!
Nice work. Thanks for stopping to help a fellow motorcyclist.
It happens to us all, and the priority is always to help without question. Ride safe fellow riders.
Great video. It can happen to the best of us, Myself included. I was more embarrassed than hurt,and this was in England not those super hairpin bends of the Stelvio and others. Best wished to all who helped.
Blackie that day was about 350 kilometers ride with rv tourists and buses in stelvio pass it take a toll on you thank you for watching the video
Passo Stelvio is the worst of the worst. Just take the Umbrail pass next to it. It’s empty and the quality of the road is superb.
@@bmw-sepp8722 Try Gavia and you'll love Stelvio. I did both crashless with my old ZXR750, but I will never forget. Perhaps now I'm too old to do it again...
Indeed. Stelvio is raved about quite a lot and it does deserve the reputation. But it is rarely mentioned how tight and funky angled these tight hairpins can be. Especially if there is traffic. It's not for the inexperienced. Starting off with some other passes and practicing by taking the tightest lines through those should make one better prepared. Those who routinely cut corners, always use both lanes when starting and finishing can be taken by surprise here. And this can still happen with experienced riders, too.
No, no and no. Complete Bullshit. Something so stupid can't happen to me. Totally impossible. It only happens to the worst drivers. 🤣🤣🤣
You guys give me faith. Well done.
Nice going guys! Luckily, no one hurt except for confidence or ego. Can happen to the best of us.
Everyone who laughs or makes fun of here isn´t a real biker.
The guys who stopped and helped are real Bikers!
Don´t drive faster than your Guardian Angel can fly.
I've been in that route. It's very very narrow. Not easy with big heavy bikes.
Happened to me with my Africa Twin bang in the middle of a very busy set of traffic lights in Central London. Another Africa Twin rider parked next time and helped me lifting the beast to show everyone that I was in need. I promised myself 'never again'...until it does🤣
I am 33 years old, and next year I want to buy a bike and work two jobs for it. And when I see something like this, I am even more unto it! It is so lovely to see you help them.
@Stijn Spijker Hey thank you for advice. I just want enough money for equipment and i want new bike to buy but nothing too much expencive.
Tristezza assoluta leggere commenti di centauri che scrivono frasi poco corrette tipo " state a casa" comprate moto a 3 ruote" compratevi una bicicletta" Vi ricordo che può capitare a tutti di cadere e vi auguro sia così senza nessun danno fisico, lo stelvio l'ho fatto parecchie volte purtroppo ci sono persone soprattutto se si viaggia carichi e in 2 che nei tornanti stretti "sbagliano" ma chi non ha sbagliato anche solo una volta. Poi ricoche essere centauri vuol dire far parte di una grande famiglia.
desmo Ducati in più si vede anche che L asfalto fa schifo a causa di lavori sulla strada quindi cadere ci sta , ma ormai i professori ci sono sempre .
Loro non sbagliano mai ! Se la giornata è storta cadono dal divano 😅
certo, come se la bici fosse più facile. in montagna con quelle pendenze, tanti km e tante curve, e soprattutto posizione per nulla comodo e copertoni stretti, è altrettanto probabile cadere. comunque nel 2° caso il tipo è caduto perché con quel peso non puoi piegare senza sbilanciarti. viaggiando così, io non farei mai tutti quei tornanti!
@@miliziametallica chi critica e sfotte non è un vero centauro..
@@D4rkSouL85 Verissimo, magari hanno la moto solo per fare i fighi in paese.
There will always be idiots/imbeciles that have to be a wise ass and disrespect those who fall. I bet those who claim why people buy to big a bike, or only ride on weekends, have never made the Stelvio or anything farther then 100km from their home. I made the Stelvio, did not drop the bike there, but days before in Germany let it fall 3 times in one day! Who has never dropped the bike, has never made a big journey!
That's the right comment. Can happen to anybody. I'm a rather skilled rider. I climbed so many passes all over Europe that I lost counting. Never dropped my bike. Got myself a BMW K1600 GTL in 2015, you can't get much heavier than that. Never had an issue on mountain roads, even tricky ones, but dropped the bike 3 times on idle. Shit happens, it's as simple as that. Taking bends on mountain roads is basically a question of confidence. The slightest hesitation and you're done...
Exactly, add to this being tired after riding 5 days in a row under all types of weather conditions and then we will see who are the real heroes! :D
Harley riders 👎
It s our duty to help each other!
Well done my friend and to all bikers that stop to help others 👏
I made that pass: beautiful is an understatement
But also one of the more difficult ones ;)
Awesome - the kin spirit of bikers….👍👏
Drove the Stelvio twice, once alone, second time with a passenger. On a really heavy bike at that (BMW K1600GTL). Had no issues honestly, although the weather was really bad the first time (it was kinda snowing), but I have to admit it's a tricky place, even with considerable experience. The ramps are pretty harsh and the road in the corners is in a very poor condition at times. But hey, that pass is a legend, it should be on every rider's bucket list. 🙂
Thanks God, there is still a few good people out there 🙏
Mt front wheel slipped out going up one pass, reckon roads become shiny plus all the weight is back on my GS with panniers loaded. I slow now on the tight corners
thanks for that !
It's easy to do I've done it a couple of times two up on a fully loaded Ducati Multistrada. I'm only 5'9" and just kept it as smooth as possible and no way did I want to have to stop on any of the hairpins. Best advice be smooth be alert and never do it at the end of a long day in the saddle.
It's iconic but not that nice to ride.
With that much luggage the 2nd guy should consider a car. Paniers, 2 top boxes, a duffel and a tank bag. Jesus!
yeah, ...single track truck 😂🤦♂️
sorry but not good enough at driving a motorcycle?!
@@Klappstuhlmaster everyone can make mistakes. Those corners are tight if you're not used to them. Take them to sharp and slow with that much weight and you can easily stall and drop the bike.
Just a question of practice I traveled this year the first time through the alps with my street triple r + 2 side bags, tank bag & girlfriend and had 0 drops because I watched CZcams videos before how to drive these tight corners. Btw. 2. Year of motorcycling
You just can't. 😅 Biker forever
Good man 👍🏻
Bravo!!! Grande!
Me too when was in Stelvio pass 3 motorbikers down... Really a difficult way
Good job my friend
Guardando il video, sembra che i lavori in corso abbia lasciato della polvere scivolosa a terra. Bravo, lodevole il tuo gesto. ✌✌✌✌👏👏
Nice job, man!
Hey mate! Is it okay if I use it in my compilation? Full credited ofc. Thank you!
Nice one dude ✌🏾
Hi mate, can I feature your video in my next compilation? Of course, with credits in the video and description.
yes
Stelvio is a great riding school... up and down... thousand times... with every weather...and you could drive everywhere... try also Gavia...or Vivione... much worst turns...haha
Wow nice bro from Bangladesh
Those 180º bends are trully a nightmare, luckly, we are never alone! ;)
I consider the Stelvio as part of the Motorcycle heaven.:)
Anyone who truly finds them "a nightmare" should not be riding them. As |I see it, the skill level of the first rider has to be questioned, and the second rider thinks riding a bike laden like a pack-horse is a wise thing to do on hairpin bends that are on 45 degree slopes. All the gear, no idea...
Bravissimo!
before going through Stelvio the first time I saw some videos of these. fortunately I managed to cross it twice without accidents
Happens to all of us - unless the bike is parked in the garage all the time!
And do not forget, fellas, .... take your time, catch your breath and first THINK about what and how to do next, before you try and get the bike up again in a hurry. Don´t be embarrassed - THINK! Otherwise the next mishap wll happen right away.
Be save, everybody!
Very nice!
Top job! 👍
Why don't they shut down the engine when the bike goes down? It's the first safety rule.
Probably because they temporarily lost their mind a little bit
That tend to happen after someone dropped the bike
They became too nervous and forgot about what they should do
I see a Ducati rider with an HD jacket......I got it!!
It's a cry for help! Help Driver HD should be clear!
Orange & white "does not a Harley jacket make"!...look again.
The fuckin Judas.
That’s what you get when you buy a big ass beemer... need three guys to help you pick it up. Get a bike you can handle.
how do you like the 690 as a touring bike? I'm up in the air deciding between that, the 701(same bike, i know), and something bigger like an f800gs. the lightweight of the 690 would be nice but how does it hold up to highway use/etc?
i did the conversion (the dakar kit) because i off road a lot , in the highway not so good at 110 kilometer you are ok above that good luck :) , its a one cylinder engine so don't expect much on highway. i did the conversion back in 2017 before the 790 R. if i buy a motorcycle now i would choose 790r two cylinder engine fuel tank low , quick shifter, cruise control& more power. hope this helps . but in the end it depends what you want to do !!!
@@690adv2 790r is good in theory, in reality the clutch isn't suited for offroad abuse(very small diameter.. smaller than the 300 EXC bikes) and the 1st gear is very very tall.. a bad combo. oh and it has no low end power for tractoring up hills, you have to keep it above 4k so that adds to the clutch abuse. if you regear it then 6th becomes too low for highway use. Thanks for the suggestion though. i don't mind singles on the highway, hell i was riding a himalayan on the highway until recently and it did okay at 120. low vibes, etc. and yeah, i only ask because I like offroading too but the idea of a 450lb bike offroad is a bit much, add baggage on that and it becomes over 500 easily.
bravo!!!!💪
Very nice job! But wait and start your KTM if both meters are back to zero. To soon start will interrupt the bike reset and fuelpump start.
Sullo stelvio ( da automobilista ) mi è capitato di aiutare motociclisti a terra.. quindi per me in strada ci si aiuta .. un appello ai bikers : in montagna moderate la velocità .. l' automobilista rischia talvolta che da una curva esca un proiettile e purtroppo l' auto ha dimensioni doppie di una moto .. diventano un rischio qualsiasi sorpasso..
Di solito questo tipo di cadute avviene per il contrario, ti spaventi, blocchi la moto con i freni oppure si spegne il motore e cadi.
👍👍👍
I came across a K1600 fully laden with passenger dropped on that very spot.
Fiz á 3 anos esse coll com uma harley,jurei para nunca mais🤣🤣
Hi, where you buy the 690 rally kit? I have One, but i want to change
ktm basel swiss
That why I'd not buy a GS 1200, too heavy, "- Light is better" for long travels. And I prefer to use soft gears. I've a BMW R 1200 R Classic, perfect for sinuous roads, highways but for a very long and exotic travels, I would try to have a mono 650cc, preferably with a minimum electronics. I like the AJP 650, the KTM adv LC 640 x and yours of course :-)
HOW ABOUT A VERSYS 650. WOULD YOU GO FOR THAT AS WELL.
"Its the obligation of the strong to protect the weak & innocent from evil men who would prey on them" Jon Robinson (my Father)...
Which laguange are you guys speaking with the second rider that fall off?
Because at first i understood both spanish and a bit of english, but then the other languages i did not understand, it sound to me like a arabic language but i am just guessing, my ear is not use to those sounds, i am just curious :P
Great attitude helping this bikers as it should be done :)
Arabic
Why were they on the ground? It looks like those bikes were dropped at stand still.
👍🏻🙏👍🏻
Fra motociclisti si fa così uniti e solidali sempre 👏👏👏
🏍️🏍️🏍️👍👍👍
Ma quando mai????
Ormai sono 1 su 20 quelli che si fermano ad aiutare.
Lavoro allo Stelvio da anni e ne ho viste di moto a terra con decine di altre passare guardando. La razza dei motociclisti è ormai estinta. Ci sono ormai solo possessori di moto.
@@rambaldomelandri9011 ci credo 👍👍
سلام عليكم اخوي، عادي استخدم هذا الفيديو اكيد ب كامل حقوقك في صندوق الوصف و التعليقات ، شكرآ.
ماعندي غير حلالك
@@690adv2 الله يسعدك مشكور ما قصرت 😊
Drove the Stelvio many times...allways with passenger and travelling luggage. It is no surprise, the net is full of crashes, fails and falls at the stelvio. Use your brains, practice, take a safety course, take a green pea between your teeth. If you can drive for 10 minutes without crushing it... you have passed. Try it...take care.
Great to see fellow riders help each other. BUT beware, I’ve seen riders stop to help (fake rider falls), then whilst helping there bike is stolen.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like a UK thing. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
No, it’s an Italian thing as it’s in Italy.
Its possible to go down in the strait bend
Good video, the lesson is dont buy a heavy bike if you cannot lift it alone, light is better ;)
With my BMW K1600 GTL, I would have to lift quite a few stones in the gym to get that far. :-D Mind you, I climbed that side of the Stelvio with that bike in freezing cold weather and rain almost transforming into snow, I have to admit I was lucky to reach the top without any scratches. The bends are not only tight, they are also very steep in the Stelvio (if you stall, you're dead, with any bike frankly). And the trafic, even in bad weather, is always mind-blowing. I did it once for the record, but didn't particularly enjoy it... not because of the weather in my case, but due to the trafic. There's always something or someone getting stuck along the pass, so damn annoying. The "Route des Grandes Alpes" is so more fun...
@@guitounours I just recently rode the Stelvio with a friend of mine and it was beautiful. There was very little traffic (well maybe because of corona).
It's a bit more nuanced than that. The first bike wasn't all that heavy, but the angle made it hard. The second bike was heavy, but if they hadn't helped him he would have taken off his cases and sorted it out himself. Exhaustion also matters a lot, I don't know what state the riders were in. Neither of these people were in big trouble, this was just a much faster and nicer solution.
That second guy had a Dakar sticker on his top box. Farcical.
I'm happy to ride a sidecar motorcycle. Hairpins are totally easy and I never drop my bike :)
Just did both sides today on my xx
Lots of wacky riders who think they are agostini
One went home in a box
lucky you , how is traviling with covid these days is it normal or bad as media says!!!!
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Die Bikes werden auch immer schwerer! Hatte auch immer so viel Gepäck aber meine 600 Tenere war nicht so schwer. Notfalls muss man halt zuerst abladen!
Load up and practice, practice, practice, before you ever leave home.
الكويت؟ما شاءالله!👍
اي نعم حياك الله وشكرا لمرورك
You drive an awesome bike......KTM mono cilinder.....which one??
690 KTM’s enduro R 2016
but was the road slippery / wet?
Under construction it seems, gravel/sand everywhere
Neil Peart wrote about this and riding partner dropping his GS too
Those horrible 'adventure' bikes are too heavy for adventure
Big adventure bikes are too much of a handful for all but incredible hulks in their prime. I had a Honda varadero 1000 nice under way but in reality too heavy and that's just for solo work add a passenger forget about it. I also had a Honda transalp 600 it was like a mountain goat it could go any where walking trails in the forest even. I will buy another transalp in the future a 650 for touring as it can do the most extreme trails.
Per la mia esperienza lo Stelvio ha tornanti stretti ,bellissimo posto ma la strada é una delle più brutte tra tutti i passi che ho fatto (qst anno fatto con AfricaTwin 2018)
Что бы вы на сочинских серпантинах делали?
Bravi, ben fatto. Lo Stelvio è tutt'altro che facile da salire e scendere. Se si è caricichi come muli poi...
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Ist das Stilfserjoch jetzt eine Liegewiese geworden
Big bike hairpin bends and short legs are a recipe for disaster on the Stelvio.
@ekim andersom It wasn't a sentence it was a statement it didn't contain verbs, comers can be hard to place correctly in the English language even for professionals if the field, has time as passed and we all get used to text messages and abbreviations the written English as changed to a later form, that's why sometimes we just produce lists not proper sentences, end result is usually the same, I stand by by statement if you have dinky little legs keep off the pass. All the best stay safe in these dark times.
I'm amazed by the amount of luggage the last rider takes, I have only the red bag and I feel heavy and overpacked with it, when moto camping.
Glad it's not just me. WTF was he thinking riding that pass with a bike akin to a pack-horse? All the gear, no idea.
I am also a biker and i ask me : where the hell should the fun be to drive on a pass road and such one like the Stelvio ??!! Did we have not enough oder roads ?!?
Amatuur
O santo cielo😖ma questa gente si prende tutta la casa a presso🥸
Équipe de bras cassés.
Ich bin dabei
What game is this? These guys need to turn the sensitivity up on their controller if they can't make that turn
The hairpin angles are much tighter on the Stelvio than Austrian, French, German and Swiss mountain passes. God help those riders, during the day on the hairpins(45+) you have to battle with cyclists, camper vans and coaches. Viewers may disagree but I think the Stelvio is over rated, do it once and that’s it, plenty of other less travelled passes to enjoy. If you want to ride the Stelvio, either very early morning or late evening, avoiding most of the tourist traffic. Just us mad motorcyclists at unearthly hours, good to see the camaraderie in the unfortunate circumstances.
Jean Jacques finally a person knows what he is talking about. I thought i post my video for people to watch and maybe enjoy or learn. Now I’m not sure if its woth the hassles:)
690 adv Keep up the good work with the videos, if you receive abusive comments block them, ultimately turn off comments. It’s very disappointing to hear of your negative experiences, it’s an awful lot of work to produce these videos for sharing your love of motorcycling. Don’t let the buggers get you down.
That second guy's BMW GS doesn't sound healthy when he starts it...
Col monster sullo Stelvio. A benon
Perché, è vietato?
was the first person with the ducati a guy or girl
girl
La mettre sur la béquille en plein milieu du virage ce n'était pas judicieux effectivement.
Wie hebt man ein Moped auf? Das sollte man schon wissen!
ca 300 kg mit Gepäck !! aber Hallo
I'm amazed that not one of these guys knows how to lift a bike off it's side. You back into it, grab on to something that won't break, and use your legs not your back to lift. I'm 68 years old, 160 pounds, 5'6" and I can lift my 900 pound Victory off it's side by myself. Get it up to first base where you can push back with your thighs, take a breather and then lift to the top.
It’s stelvio pass in Italy very steep you can’t use the technique you’re talking about.
your bike probably never goes beyond 45° because of foot rests etc., and that's why you can lift it.
wtf is this?? in my country,when u r taking the exam to getting the license,you have to do a "slow-course"-manuvering the bike at walkingspeed thru some cones and then make a sharp 180-turna,dn the back again thru the cones-all in walkingspeed,if u put your foot down-u fail...theese people need to train on somethins similar,because that's what obviously happens..they cant manuver at slow speed..clutch,handbrake and throttle-and a good balance,something all bikers shoud learn
State a casa, siete dei pericoli pubblici!!!!
Are you Iraqi? 😀
its not a movie :) nop
Oggi me, domani a te... Tranquilli ce ne per tutti. Anche per i professoroni che fanno la morale agli altri...
Clearly those fallen over have bought motorcycles way to big and above their abilities. Safety first !
Looks to me like there is a lot of people riding that road that should be walking not riding a motorcycle