Surface Pro 10 for Business - Performance & First Look
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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2024
- Microsoft built the best Surface Pro ever..... but are there any of us left after passing the "business" and "price" hurdles?
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Love your reviews of surface products over the years. This one came at the right time as I am looking to update my current SP7+.
Thank you for a thorough review and practical assessment of the battery life.
Good video. Looking forward to your future tests.
Thank you for the review. I was really waiting on this.
Thanks for another great video. And thanks for all your work. Do you know if at some point it will be offered with 5G? And what about the consumer version?
Great review. I had high hopes for the SLS2, but after numerous so-so reviews I decided to go with an ASUS ProArt 16 OLED. I do some occasional video editing and wanted the extra horsepower to speed up the render times. To my surprise, it was slower than the laptop it replaced (HP Envy) plus some other screen issues so it ended up being returned. Curious if you have or are working on a Surface Laptop 6 review. Thanks!
Nice this is the first video I found
Doing a hands on.
Thanks for this vid! I love the form factor so much but think I’m going to get an hp spectra 360 and wait to see how the snapdragon performs. Currently, no matter what I do my egpu (I have the same one) is recognized only 50% of the time or when I plug it in upon start up on my sp9.
I really like the part where you just went straight forward with benchmark data. Very clear review
Excited for the consumer models! hopefully they include a better charger for them..
Very good content as usual.
Let's see what Microsoft has in store for us regarding the consumer line.
Great video 👌
hi there
could you highlight what about ssd: is it pcie 4 or still pcie 3?
Can you do a video reviewing the GUD G1 with the Pro 10.
I've been working on some of that data, so stay tuned!
I'm still using surface pro 2
This year I will buy a surface. I have a iPad Pro since since 2020 but I would rather windows explorer to manage files and play some game I can’t have on PS5. I waited for the surface pro 10 with core 7 just for better gaming capacities. But if as you said, core 5 will be good enough. I hoped we get core 7 165H but we have only U.s version, off course for mobility. windows eat Rams as pancake, so the best is to take the 32Go to be futurproof for AI. I checked how to swipe the SSD, not very difficult and way cheaper to get 1To. Thanks for benchmarks.
What do you think about the minisforum v3? Would like to hear your thoughts on that device vs z13 and the surface pro
Arrives tomorrow...will be doing a video by this weekend.
What about 5g will we get it on consumer version? It would have been nice to have 5g option with x86 as well
5g on surface pro 10 for business is coming SOON not now
what's up with the background noise? it sounds like coil whine
Hold on, they went back to fanless? Why would they do this?
Sorry I'm not being clear, when I said "no fan" I mean without using a 3rd party external fan, the Surface Pro 10 has a fan inside.
No OLED is dissapointing
These are the business versions. So, there's no need for it. The Consumer versions will have them.
Do you feel that it gets hot or that the fan starts up and disturbs you?
I noticed it was like the fan was ALWAYS on, although quiet, but seems like they could change that behavior as it was very cool to the touch.
Not sure how these devices can be tested without a fan. Doesn’t the fan just kick in when it gets hot?
Sorry, I should have been more clear, when I say without fan, I mean without using an external fan. The internal fan is always active when needed.
Does it have the ultra 7 with arc graphics??….and if not why…isn’t that their best chip right now…I’m so confused 😐
Sorry….i saw at the end of the video….it is the ultra 7….the integrated gpu is supposed to be amazing….didnt sound that way 🤔
Glad to hear you're reviewing the consumer version. I like your videos and that's what I'm planning to get. Just having to pay extra for the business stuff feels too much like a price gouge to me. And well, lets just say I wouldn't enjoy the purchase. So why do it?
Can you test some games?
I think those who hope that the consumers version of the SP10 will be cheaper than the business version will be very disappointed. Qualcomm is apparently pricing the chips in line with core ultra 7 so expect the same price and if the add OLED I wouldn't be surprised if the device is even more expensive than the business one.
The Consumer version of Surface products have always been cheaper and will continue to be that way.
@@williamcopeland2617 It will not, you'll know soon enough
They should offer the 64gig of ram with an 256ssd to shave some of the price lol i'm so tempted by the 64gig version
also i dont like those round screen corners wth theyre huge
me too
Will wait for Surface Pro 10 for consumers. I think there might be some design changes coming in
I highly doubt it. What you see is what you get. Rounded screen corners, better (OLED) screen and that's it. And of course the snapdragon but that goes without staying.
@@mortinocano169 thats all correct
maybe do a PCmark8 battery life test?(PCmark8 on battery life is better than Pcmark10)
Sweet device but that battery life is terrible. Knowing Intel, that battery lifespan will average about 2-3hrs of daily use 💯
The prices are a little crazy! ...but 64Gb ram :o
gosh that's is £2799 in the UK crazy
'No fan' and 'Intel' in the same sentence should lead to jail time for whoever designed the device!
Send it straight to the computer graveyard…
Concerning Windows on Arm and Snapdragon, I think the main "criticism" from some viewers, including me, is that you are criticising it from a gaming perspective (which is admittedly often the main focus of the channel). I have no doubut that the Snapdragon will be worse at gaming than Intel, but this does not make it a worse device for the intended users. Surface devices are not intended for gamers, but are ultrabooks with tablet capabilities. Battery life, quiet operation, a device that remains cool to the touch, speakers, and CPU performance are more important than GPU performance or than compatibility with games for most users.
The main issues I see with Windows on arm is compatibility with some, non standard, drivers. That will probabily be the tradeoff (hopefully things will get bette with time) for a device that does not get hot under load, is silent and has longer battery life that its intel counterpart
Why do you think it wont get hot under load? or that it won't have fans? or that the battery will be that much better?
That's the thing "snapdragon enthusiast" do not get, right now all we have is Qualcomm's cherry-picked benchmarks and claims with fifteen asterisk for clarification, and the promise from both MSFT and QCOM that "WoA wil will be fine on release, just trust us and buy"
Never buy promises, never buy hype, ever. If you want to be early adopter that's fine, but you shouldn't ignore the fact that all the information we have about those chips is just marketing bs rn
We will have real data once the ARM version of the SP10 get fair and independent reviews, until then is all nothing but marketing
@@GianniLeonhart Don't worry about me, I won't buy any promise, I'll wait for reviews from trusted reviewers, not from gaming focused reviewers, which are way too many on youtube and will problably hate the device as it won't be able to game as Intel and AMD, or from Apple fanboys which will be saying that M3 is better at this or that and that M4 is coming anyway, but from people who are interested in productivty, and in that I definitely don't include video editing, but normal business productivtity and also use as tablets for entertainement. If the device is comparable to M1/2/3 in terms of heat, silent operation and battery life, I'll be more than happy to get one the replace some of my current devices, including tablets...I am no Snapdragon enthusiast, but I do prefer Windows to iPadOS, Android and MacOS, but X86 has been the weak point for those of us who need a business device and not a workstation or gaming device and who don't want MacOS
As long as they keep doing as Apple, still releasing 8/256 GB models, it’s a no go for me. I paid 900€ for my SP8 with keyboard, with 8/256 GB (it was on offer) but the 16/512 GB was crazy expensive. These SP10 may be nice but I won’t pay more than 1000€ for an i5 16/512 GB, let alone around 1500€ real price for that configuration. In 2024 it is unforgivable to have 8 GB of RAM or 256 GB ssd models.
Nothing compared to Apples hardware and performance, honestly it's a embarrassment. They are doing the typical "increase small performance to milk money"
It´s bewildering to me that Microsoft equips the SP10 for Business with a whopping 64GB of RAM, but not with the new Intel ARC iGPU. Also the jump in CPU performance leaves quite a bit to be desired, afaiac.
it can not because Intel Core Ultra U series just comes with intel graphics. And they cant add the 28W intel core ultra h with arc graphics because it will over heat
@@chideramolokwu9558 So basically this comes down to the Surface Pro getting the Intel Core Ultra U because it cannot cool CPU and GPU sufficiently due to the tablet form factor, which makes it too small for more efficient cooling?
@@pixelpusher1393 Yes
@@chideramolokwu9558 Thanks for the explanation! One more question, though: What does the use of Qualcomm CPUs mean in terms of CPU- and iGPU-performance, once the expected consumer version of the SP 10 hits the shelves? Will Qualcomm offer comparable or even higher CPU performance than the SP 10 for Business does now, and the same question goes for the iGPU.
To be honest, I have not the slightest clue about Qualcomm chipsets. I just heard that they´re considered a hot alternative to Intel and AMD CPUs because of low energy consumption and attractive benchmarks. But just what that means relative to existing CPU families I have no idea.
@@pixelpusher1393 Surfacer pro 10 consumer model is faster and will come with the snapdragon x elite a new CPU that got announced in October. The snapdragon x elite model is gonna also have a faster iGPU but its only slightly faster than the integrated graphics on Intel Core Ultra H series. Surface pro 10 consumer will be out in May
For work that is very reasonable.I wonder how it compares against Dell 14 laptop work 32gb and 256gb sad
Wow, you're right! just looked at a dell latitude with the same CPU and its $2500+ similarly equipped... makes the Surface Pro 10 seem like a value.