Why Doesn't the U.S. Know About its Own Dutch Origins?
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- This video is part 2 to the video "What's Left of New Amsterdam? (and the origins of the US). I talk about why people in the United States are not aware of their Dutch past.
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Did you know the term “Yankees” (English slang for Dutch settlers in the America’s) comes from the Dutch names: Jan and Kees!?
@@samuelclaessens7699 I know I'm late but what does that mean?
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Brooklyn - Breukelen (dutch city)
Harlem - Haarlem (dutch city)
Broadway - Brede weg (wide road)
Wallstreet - Wal straat ("wal" as in surrounding of a city, like "de wallen" in Amsterdam.
The Bronx - van Bronck's boerderij (farm)
Coney Island - Conynen/Konijnen (rabbit) Eiland
Staten Island - Staeten (old dutch for Staten-Generaal or parliament) eiland
Block island - Adriaan Block (explorer)
Flushing - Vlissingen (dutch city)
Bridge street - Brugweg (free translated)
Bowery Lane - Bouwerij (old dutch word for farm) laan
Bushwick - Boswijk
More fun facts:
Donuts are actually "oliebollen" which is basically Dough fried in oil (hence the name). But as oil was scarce and very expensive, a hole was made in the oliebol so less oil was needed to fry them.
Dollar is derived from the word Daalder, a dutch coin.
Thanksgiving was introduced by the pilgrim fathers, who lived some time in the city of Leiden in Holland. In leiden, every 3rd of October, it is being celebrated how the city was liberated from the spanish. The way thanksgiving is celebrated is partly derived from those celebrations in Leiden.
Yankees was a nickname for inhabitants of the dutch staten colony. Altough there are more theories about the origin of the word, It is believed it might be coming from Jan-Kees, a common dutch male name.
Flushing - Vlissingen (dutch city), Wall Street - Waal straat
Rhode Island = Rood Eiland
Ik kom uit Breukelen. Breukelen is een dorp, geen stad. Een city is een stad met een kathedraal.
Hey Jelle. Waar kan ik dit allemaal kijken of lezen ? Zijn er boeken van of iets vind dit wel leuk om in te verdiepen ,😚
Veel aannames maar geen bevestegingen
Possibly one of the most overlooked parts of Dutch influence on America today is the Dutch declaration of independence, the act of abjuration, written almost 200 years before the American. It was the first time ideas like freedom of religion and the people's right to do away with their monarch if they are a tyrant were uttered and the American revolutionaries were inspired by parts of it.
America is number 1🤡
@@Student0Toucher Nr. 1 in being a 3rd world banana republic ;)
@@pietsnotty8283 Thats why You’re on youtube talking bad about America on a American app🤟
@@Student0Toucher One thing has nothing to do with the other. The 3rd world part is for instance about the lack of social healthcare, which they have in 3rd world countries, yet not in America. The banana republic part, well that one is obvious innit! ;)
@S Hendriks Australians invented wifi lol also America invented GPS,Internet,airplane,phone,Television and much more
I’m Dutch, I have family in the USA, when a few years back during Thanksgiving I mentioned about New Amsterdam, nobody on the table knew this fact that it belonged to us before.. It was really surprising to me.
Tell them that some Presidents had Dutch familie :)
Or that WiFi and Bluetooth an Dutch invention is :)
@@keesbos4147 ... and the Casette-tape & CD. Developed by Philips together with Sony.
Autocorrect error with "supersizing"?
@@ericheuvel7864 jep :)
@@keesbos4147 goed geengelst kees!
I always try to colonize New Amsterdam as the Netherlands in Europe Universalis.
I always try to keep New Amsterdam in Lenape territory (with cheats) in EU II :)
Great game!
U wish u had coffeeshops there haha
@@ricardokamp7213 I have coffeeshops right around the corner here ... I live in the netherlands after all.
But honestly the US policy on marijuana is more lax and less restrictive than dutch laws. By comparison ... we are backwards and primitive now lol.
All the weed innovation which used to be one of our strength has been usurped by the american industries now which are much much larger and more innovative compared to dutch ones.
Maybe i should move there then hahaha never knew it changed like that
Are people in New York known to be more direct towards being slightly blunt compared to the rest of the US? If so that might be a charactaristic left over from the Dutch history of New York.
They are lol. I actually just read the first chapter of “The First Tycoon” which is about Cornelius Vanderbilt and it mentioned that some found New York refreshing to do business because they were direct while people in Philadelphia beat around the bush.
@@GeographyGeek yeah that sounds about Dutch. Here in the netherlands we don't always realise it, but we say almost everything exactly as we mean it, not beating around the bush or using more subtle language most of the time. I for one actually like it much better that way. It can be cold but at least you won't be left wondering what someone truly thinks of you.
@@GeographyGeek thats their dutch dna popping out lol
@Wim Privé inderdaad. Maar de waarheid is ook het best te zeggen. Beter dan een leugen die later harder terug komt
I never understand why people have problems with people being direct and honest.
Sure, being nice is good. But the people who are known to be less direct, usually aren’t genuinely nice. They may not say things directly, but may let it shine through in their behavior or talk behind your back.
At least when someone’s direct, you know what you’ve got. Being honest and direct isn’t’ rude. I’d rather call it being fair.
I’d rather have someone tell me they have a problem with me. Then I know they also mean it when they’re nice. And won’t smile and compliment me, then turn around and flip me off.
Most of this is taught in the Netherlands. Just not in the US.
There's a Dutch joke where a Dutchman visits New York City and an American asks them where they are from. The Dutchman says "Holland" to which the American replies "Oh, I'm from the Bronx" (dutch city and NYC neighborhood next to neighborhood of holland).
That is no dutch joke for no dutchman would ever say he is from holland, but from the netherlands
@@RIcklacantina he probably ment Haarlem and not Holland
I’m Dutch (from the city of Haarlem) and I often tell people I’m from Holland (which is true). In Some countries they know what “Holland” is, but not “The Netherlands”, so Holland is easier.
That's pretty funny...but also sad lol
In the 17th century Delft pottery ware had “made in Delft Holland” on it and was widely exported so…..”Holland” was used for selling goods (long ago) from the prosperous counties of North and South Holland.
The Dutch basically introduced The American Dream
Not too sure about that. We mostly introduced slavery to the USA. A reason why the Dutch don't really know much about the Dutch history of the USA either: it's a bit embarrassing.
@@puikepuck Total nonsense
@Marnix Kalkman So were the Roosevelts, basically :)
@@puikepuck slavery was already invented by every tribe way before the netherlands existed. We did introduce the stock exchange though.
@@puikepuck go back to your left antifa basement. You don’t know anything… Read ‘Bloedblarre’ his comment for example!
As a Dutch, I hope more Americans learn about this. Read a book about it some time ago. Very interesting
Me too
Hebben jullie dit op school gehad met geschiedenis?
@@guillermogorissen3375 nee helaas niet veel. Wel een beetje maar niet uitgebreid… Heb er zelf een boek over gelezen. De Hollandse Indiaan.
Is that book available in English? What is the title?
@@drjohnson98 Hello. I don’t think so. But it was called: Hendrick de Hollandsche Indiaan. Very interesting! There are plenty of more books though. Look them up.
Thanks for not using "Holland" incorrectly to describe the entire country! As a Northern Dutchwoman, I appreciate that.
As someone from Holland I am deeply offended by your remarks! Vive la Holland!
Oh wat erg zeg Holland Holland Holland
@@protectorh9167
It was a joke. No offence meant.
@@johnbutt6912 Dan moet Grutte Pier maar even op bezoek komen.
@@marsmellow1589
I don't speak Dutch but are you inviting me to see a famous seaside pier?!
Famous Dutch-Americans include:
Founding Father John Jay
Four presidents (Martin Van Buren--son of a Dutch immigrant--Warren Harding and both Roosevelts)
Gunfighter Wyatt Earp (Like John Wayne, he came from Madison county, Iowa, famous for bridges built by Dutch-Americans.)
Artist Willem de Kooning
Actor Henry Fonda
Comedian Dick Van Dyke
Novelist John Updike
Singer Bruce Springsteen
Dutch words in American English: cookie, boss, cole slaw, spook, bazooka, trek, poppycock, Santa Claus
Russell Shorto's book is excellent!
Holy fuck imagine if America ended up speaking Dutch. It would be a world language and I wouldn’t have to write this comment in English
Was dat ff handig geweest!
If only🥲
Ik woon in Amsterdam, voelde mij in NewYork meteen thuis ! Is er toch iets blijven hangen 😄
....except, that depends.
Remember, British people invented and speak English too, and they're ALSO a very important reason as to why many people speak English today (colonization)
Yes you would have "clogged " up this message board!!!
"Why Doesn't the U.S. Know About its Own Dutch Origins?"
You are asking Americans to know anything other then America exists, that's asking too much. The average American don't even know any other countries exists, after all.
Lol, that was exactly what I was going to say. What do Americans know beside their own country? They also often think that they create everything. So many Dutch inventions that influence them without them even knowing it.
I watched a documentary about a man who lived in an RV his whole life claiming he had travelled the world with it. I was wondering how he crossed oceans with it untill I heard him say "from Seattle to Miami". Turned out he had never left the country. :)
They know about Russia and China, believe me. But I guess they can think it is on another planet.
I used to believe this until I moved to America - now I feel embarrassed that I generalized Americans like that. I met so many intelligent and knowledgeable people here.
@@eveline1725 I've lived there for a while, and yes, plenty of intelligent, well-spoken and informed people actually live there. I had a great time there, and you'll never get those nuances if you've never actually spent any time there. But still you'll find a good many others to confirm some of those stereotypes (which obviously happens wherever you'll go in the world). I had teenagers that asked me if we had TVs and cars in the Netherlands, which made me laugh my butt off. It's not their fault their country's education system is failing them in their world view, but it is. It has something extremely appealing, the way they love their country and believe the world revolves around it, when you're there. And I mean it is a wonderful country aesthetically and culturally speaking. But it comes with its flaws as does any country, and I believe their self-centered city on a hill view of who they are as a people and country and what they mean to the world..that's definitely defined their whole identity, but for some people it serves as quite an impairment because they'll continue to have blinders on when looking at and reviewing the rest of the world.
“What’s Left of New Amsterdam? (And the origins of the US)” - czcams.com/video/s4BpJd8Or80/video.html
America is number 1🤡
@@Student0Toucher Who is second and third in your opinion?
@@lbergen001 2.China and 3.Germany over all but if we focus on military most then 2.Russia 3.China
@@Student0Toucher ok, interesting ranking.
@@Student0Toucher America or USA??? Because Canada, Mexico, Brazil and Argentina, just to name a few, are also America. The USA is only part of America (and not the best or the brightest part, to be honest!). I always laugh when someone calls the USA "The best country in the world". In my humble opinion, the USA is about 180th or thereabouts! Not quite in the last place, but there is not much difference!
Excellent video! Iam Dutch myself and being a pretty big historic "geek" i learned alot by watching your Dutch/America video's.
Thank you! Glad to hear!
@Sturmzug congrats another Dutch person trying to be American so bad
@@dotty4994 Nah thanks, i wouldn't like living in that third world country😘
beautiful maps. really enjoy your videos, you’ve found your calling and doing great. -greets from a fellow Virginian (now living in Amsterdam
Thank you!! That means a lot. I think I have found it as well, I am grateful other people enjoy what I make.
Aw shit, here we go agian.
G E K O L O N I S E E R D. It fits slightly to the video😂
🤦♂️😂
Also for the Hamilton fans, the Schuyler sisters were a Dutch family. Yes they lived in America of course, but they actually spoke Dutch in their family house.
That’s so cool! Where did you find that?
Wauw, thanks! I even learned a lot about our history and the mindset back then! Amazing! I would love to learn more about this..
Great video keep up the fantastic work
Thank you!
Fun fact, the Pilgrims of the Mayflower left the Netherlands, because it was too liberal, they only wanted freedom for their own religion! 😁✌🏼
Right, they were just a bunch of extremists
They wanted the freedom to opress others
@@Terrorrai1 is it really freedom if you can't even opress others?
@@RedbadofFrisia spirit of the USA!
and in the american books they say they wanted it even more free bitch we where too free
Great stuff! You putting us Dutch back on the map...Litarally...
As a history teacher and a person of Dutch descent, I can't tell how much I appreciate your channel.
It is laughable that many schools ignore early settlement by Dutch, including NY. (barely in the curriculum)
My ancestors all settled in Tarrytown and Peekskill, NY, respectively.
Tarrytown, aka tarwe (Dutch word for wheat) town.
Peekskill, derived from the surname of Jan Peeck, who was the first person to make formal contact with the Lenape or Sachoes people in the area and later formalized a trade deal with them, and the word "kil" or "kill", which is old Dutch for stream aka a small or narrow river.
@@RudyBleeker Very interesting channle; I know "kil" means creek. However, to most the suffix can be a bit off putting. ( like Fishkill:))) There are a few loan words used in American Standard English that derives from Dutch, '
Nice video! Keep up the good work
Thank you!
To illustrate the indifference of many New Yorkers regarding their past: when running for mayor of New York City earlier this year, Andrew Yang proposed having a new more modern flag. Since "thinking about the people of New York City the Dutch are not the first group that springs to mind."
Wow I didn't know that. I just looked it up. He caught a lot of crap on twitter for it. lol
Yeah, erasing history seems to be a thing of this time.
Part of what makes me love Dutch history is how widespread it is, even when we aren’t aware of it. Unless you look out for it you’d probably glance over Dutch presence in history throughout the world. One such examples is the song which I believe is sung during Thanksgiving, “We Gather Together”. This song is originally Dutch and is called “Wilt heden nu treden” which was written to celebrate the Dutch victory at the Battle of Turnhout. This is just one of many examples which I randomly came across
Just subscribed! Thank you for this.
I appreciate it!
Great video
I always felt that the Dutch get in the way of American exceptionalism. There is a foe - the English - that it overcame, and the benevolent liberty that followed is provided at the grace and brilliance of its early leaders. Never mind that they drew heavy inspiration from the French, Dutch, as well as a few others. American exceptionalism is a good myth, that certainly keeps patriotism up; it has become part of the civil religion. It, and its history is therefore preferred over other elements to this story, lest it takes away from the central message.
That's quite a sobering view of things, to me and possibly to many Americans, and it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing.
Patriotism, a lost resort sentiment, when the person can't find something good in himself. You should read Schopenhauer on that.
eh... that's just not true.
A German invented the idea of individual liberty, the French used the idea and made some grand moves with it, the Dutch used it to create legislation guaranteeing it and America is the latest greatest symbol of it.
The sad part is that America is losing it and I don't see another Empire standing up to take the torch and continue the advancement of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
@@apuapustaja1958 the collapse of an empire is coming and I also think the liberty amd freedom we are having is at great risk due riding nationalism in a lot of the western countries
@@gerardvermaat6944 no it's quite the opposite.
it's Globalism aka Judaism that is causing the downfall yet again
Nice video! Even as a Dutch myself I don't know all of the history myself! Really amazing! 😬👍
A fun anecdote to the point you make around the 7:00 mark. The grandfather of a friend of mine once met an American man in Amsterdam who had taught himself Dutch from old Dutch primary school books and other Dutch texts. While they were able to have something of a conversation in Dutch, it was very amusing to my friend's grandfather because the American has taught himself old, pre-World War 2 Dutch, which most Dutch people can still understand especially at the time, but sounds very quaint and old-fashioned to us. This was somewhere in the early 1950's.
Great video, very interesting.
Thank you!
Quite enjoying the series you are doing! Have you considered reaching out to Russell Shorto et al for an interview? They seem genuinely happy to talk about the topic in other interviews and (online) presentations I have seen of them.
Thank you! I didn't think about that. An interview would be pretty cool! I'm not sure if I'm big enough for him to care but I guess it's worth a shot.
Growing up in NYC, we learned this history pretty well. Shorto's book posed the same question. I didn't realize other states don't teach this history. Also, you mention Roosevelts, but Martin van Buren actually spoke Dutch as his first language.
His actually Dutch name was Maarten van Buren. Which sounds like Martin in English.
Theodore and Franklin D. Roosevelt also had Dutch origins.
@@Joey-ct8bm FDR fit Belgian Americans before he has roots in France and the Netherlands both countries language are the languages of Belgium
Great video !!
Thank you!
I learned about New Amsterdam in a US History class here in Oklahoma. First in junior high, then again at the University of Oklahoma.
When I asked about my heritage the first thing my Grandma said was Dutch. I saw a historical marker in New York’s Battery Park about the Dutch settlers but it was years before I knew my family was among those settlers. They came on first boat from the Netherlands in 1624.
How cool is that?
Now the Dutch West Indies Trading Company is not simply a question on a history test, it’s part of my family history.
Just found your videos this morning, I’ll be tracking them down now, and I’ll check out your maps.
Jan, descendant of Phillippe du Trieuxxe … apologies for the spelling.😉
Found a dutch article about it.
THE BEGINNING: HENRY HUDSON AND THE ISLAND “MANNAHATTES”
Difficult to imagine for the modern traveler, but Manhattan was once a green and forested island where only a few Indians lived. In the year 1609, the British navigator Henry Hudson, employed by the Amsterdam chamber of the Dutch East India Company (VOC), sailed into the area around present-day New York in search of a new route to Asia. He sailed on the river that would later be named after him into the current city of Albany. Hudson's journey led to new trade missions from the Dutch in the following years, without any major settlements being established. That only changed in 1624, when the ship the Nieuw-Amsterdam, owned by the West India Company (WIC, which was actually responsible for all activities in the west, today's North, Central and South America and the Caribbean) entered the area.
In addition to the crew, the Nieuw-Amsterdam had about thirty families on board. Men and women whose sole purpose was to build a new life. Although the people on board came from the United Seven Provinces, as the Netherlands was called at the time, they came from all over Europe: many Walloons and Flemish, today's south of Belgium, some Swiss, Italians, etc. On Noten Eylandt, today Governor Island in the bay of New York City, most disembarked, some sailed on to Albany and founded several settlements there and on the way there.
Plans to create a fort that would protect the mouth of the Hudson River (and further northern settlements such as Albany) eventually led to Fort Amsterdam being founded in 1626, on the approximate site of the US Custom House today. is located just next to Battery Park.
Very cool. Growing up in NYC, I met very few Dutch. There was a Dutch butcher on 3rd Ave and 20th St. There was a visiting Dutch guy in my building. I finally dated an American woman with Dutch ancestry to my knowledge. But they left a rich legacy.
@@edwardwong654 My branch of that family was in New Jersey at the time of the Revolutionary War, then later Pennsylvania and established new towns in Illinois. That branch of the family tree also produced Ronald Reagan, who was 2nd cousin to my Grandmother. I learned all these details when I looked up his family tree.
Even santa clause is of Dutch origin.. here we call it Sinterklaas(Saint Nicolas) and as the tradition came to America.. they translated it to santa clause(pronounciation of Sinterklaas in English)
Same Saint Nick/Nicolas from a village called Mira in Greece
This is true. Most people don't know this as well.
The Dutch Sinterklaas was born about 270 AD in the port of Patara in the Greek province of Lycia in Asia Minor (present-day Turkey).
@@brozius ... a lot can be told about the Lycians and the Lycian road...
the story of suriname is warped here in the netherlands too, thanks for the vid, i enjoyed it a lot
Love your videos keep it up!
Thank you! I’ll do my best!
Fun fact: I was born in Surinam (that traded place, before its independence) but only I lived there for about 6 years before I came to the Netherlands in 1981. I have been back many times. The native/formal language and all formal books, etc. are Dutch. But the most spoken street/common language is Surinamese/Sranang Tongo (which is also spoken by native tribes besides there own). Surinam is still one of the richest countries per capita on earth according to the CIA Fact book... so argubly a good trade. But it's mainly because that is has ginormous resource wealth with a very, very low population for its size (5 times The Netherlands,
Interesting video. And its a fine thing that the Dutch are recognised finally.
Thanks so much for your videos. Especially this one bringing knowledge to people about the Dutch roots that helped form this country. I am personally related to a prominent Dutch woman named Anneke Jan's Bogardus who owned a 62 Acre Farm on the island of Manhattan before relocating North to Albany where she was the wife of the Minister presiding over the first and oldest church in Albany, North Dutch Reformed Church of Albany.
I would be over the moon if you were too make a video about her and Albany during its early time as a Dutch colony. The rest of the world doesn't understand how this state was impacted by Dutch colonists. But us locals are reminded of our Dutch heritage by traditional Dutch architecture along with new buildings like the Suny Albany nanotech campus whose Flagship building is in the shape of a Dutch merchant ship. We are also reminded of our Dutch Heritage by things like the annual Mother's Day weekend Dutch Tulip Festival. Every year the streets of Albany are swept by a brigade of women dressed in traditional Old Dutch garb, right down to the wooden shoes. The park in downtown is planted with many thousands of tulip bulbs that bloom all at once and our timed for the festival. And every year, a week or two after the Tulip Festival all of the tulip bulbs are dug up and distributed for free.
The development of NY City and the Hudson River led to the Erie Canal & eventual Railroad to Chicago on the Great Lakes. Hudson may have failed to find a passageway west to the Pacific Ocean, but his journey into 'New Amsterdam' surely helped the Westward Expansion of the newly developing United States of America. Thanks.
As far as i know the "Pelgrim Fathers" fled from England to The Netehrlands because of "religion differences" then they were allowed to go to New Amsterdam, to get freed of any religion abuse. Besides that we the Dutch helped to install your Constitution. A copy can be found in Amsterdam.(in dutch).
Good luck with your search and findings.
I always assumed the US knew about its Dutch history, New Amsterdan etc., and where some of its core values, like freedom of religion, came from. Sad to hear it’s not common knowledge.
It makes sense that an English speaking country centers its history on England.
They made it so that they take all the credit
The English just a very different vision in their colonies, besides the Afrikaans language in South Africa there are barely any traces left of dutch colonization whereas in English colonization you can see by simply looking at a map.
We found a colony in north America, gone its now the state of new York.
We find New Zealand and New Holland, New Zealand stays (somehow) but New Holland is now Australia and England's personal prison.
Colony in South Africa, English show up and to this day the Afrikaans speakers still hate the English speakers to a degree, not to mention that there's plenty of hate to go around there.
they were the biggest contribution to the fall of the VOC and the WIC.
If you look at Dutch history England was kind of like team Rocket that show up everywhere you do just to mess with you.
@TheWeeaboo actually 40 million white Americans identify themselves as "Americans" the majority of them probably are of english descent. It simply doesn't make sense that the majority of white Americans are of german descent
@TheWeeaboo I said that 40 million alone identify as americans, and many of them are of English or Scottish decent and that's a fact. If you those 40 million and join them to the 25 million Americans who reported to have English ancestry you will realise that the majority ancestry group in the US is English.
@TheWeeaboo and how does that refute my point?
goed werk!
Love your channel ❤ I live in Amsterdam. Groetjes patriche
Greetings from "Old" Amsterdam
Where we have the "Breestraat" = Broadstreet now know as Broadway
And a few more Street names have the Dutch origin like "Kerstraat" = Churchstreet
Thanks for the video
Great video content, thanks :-) The last of the major Dutch political influence in New York ended in 1845 at the end of the Helderberg War (1839-1845) in the Hudson and Mohawk Valleys. Anti Renter farmers had to pay rent to a few old Dutch families (patroons) who owned vast areas of the state. Though the farmers lost the war they earned public support during the trials afterward and the Dutch fiefdoms were broken up and sold to tenants. Many of the farmers (who had til then paid a fairly low tax to the patroons) could now no longer afford to own property and farms.
Many of the participants in the rebellion were Dutch themselves. I grew up in the Hudson Valley a descendant of Dutch Anti Renters as were many of my schoolmates so I find the history fascinating.
Thank you! I've never heard of this. I'm taking a trip in about a month to Hyde Park. Any recommendations on some places in the area I should add to the itinerary?
@@GeographyGeek When I went on a field trip there way back in 5th grade we also went to the "Beekman Arms and Delamater Inn" in nearby Rhinebeck (oldest operating hotel in the country) and the Vanderbilt mansion (also in Hyde Park). Rhinebeck also has the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome but the weekend flight shows end 10/17. Up north in Columbia county is the Martin Van Buren home and park in Kinderhook and the Luykas Van Alen house.
If you get a look at the Catskill Mountains across the river see if they dont resemble the sleeping form of a giant Rip Van Winkle like I was taught as a child (With his head in the north towards Albany and his feet sprawled out in Woodstock) Have a good trip ! 😃
Nice to watch.
Born and grew up on Long Island where there were many old windmills especially out east.
My grandfather immigrated from the Netherlands as a child around 1904, after the San Francisco earthquake. His father and his three uncles were all builders, from the North Polder Area, and came to help with the reconstruction of the city. My grandfather later became a contractor and there are schools and churches all over the Bay Area that he built. He also helped build US Navy ships during the war at the nearby Richmond, CA dockyards, they took a lot of carpentry to fit out, despite having steel hulls. Of course, the huge Dutch contributions to this country began early, on the East Coast, but a lot of Dutch immigrants came in every century since “the Pilgrims”, who often, though of English origin, had spent years in the Netherlands first, to escape religious persecution. I agree the Dutch contribution to this country is often overlooked.
Maybe you should do more research on the stay of John Adams in The Netherlands and the Dutch ultimatum that he could only get financial support if the British colony would become independent from England. You could also dive into the origin of the American constitution. John Adams used the Dutch constitution as an important example for the future American constitution.
I've been waiting on this
This makes perfect sense
Not sure if you said it in your video, but New York was for a year called new orange in 1673, when the dutch briefly regained control of the colony. Quite funny that new york was first the new orange and later became the big apple :P.
Exactly, " briefly"
Could you explain a little more about the map in the background at 3:40?
I see Spanish writing (Mar del Sol) but also in the middle 'Nieuw Jorck'
Early editions of the map don’t have Nieuw Jorck but after the English takeover it was added. However, this map was made by Dutch cartographers so they kept Nederlandt at the same time. Mar Del Nort was commonly used to refer to the northern half of the Atlantic. It seems to be nearly universal for the time period. Wikipedia gives a British cartographer John Sellers credit for naming it but maps were already using the name. I wish I knew more at this time.
@@GeographyGeek Thanks !
My family was one of the Dutch families that moved to the new world in the early 17th century. I still have family in the Netherlands. Six van Oterleek and Six van Hillegom. I’m unsure which branch I can trace lineage to, Six van Oterleek or Six van Hillegom.
Very nice
Having lived in the US for 3 years (in the 1980's) I was also surprised by the (partial) omission of the ancestral influence of the Dutch in the American history books & teachings. Back then I believed it was just more convenient as America's history is truly a (checkered) melting pot of quite a few old-world countries & battles. Plus indeed old (sometimes lost) records in ancient languages. I know the Dutch had impressive influences all over the world, with sometimes dark (& blameful) history but I never forgot that the U.S. is a relatively young nation and therefore history is still being written.
Thank you for your time & efforts!
Dark and Blamefull? ;)
Not sure why dark and blameful.
You're acting like the entire world wasnt using slavery or (what is now considered) barbaric treatment of people not belonging to their group.
Acting like western countries didnt uplift an insane amount of people.
The US of A is a young nation in the view of the non indigenous who had always been there..
like the u.s. didnt do anything wrong. ehhh indian genocide, atom bomb on japan twice etc... i would say we humans are all the same when under the same circumstances.
@@JK-Visions there wasn't an actual genocide. The Atom Bomb was justified at the time. They weren't aware of the fallout damage. They also flyered over the cities to warn them they possessed a single bomb that could wipe an entire city. Lots of japanese didn't believe it. Plus their cities were already being wiped via firebombings.
I mean. Look at history through it's context, not our 20/20 hindsight context.
I can't help but mention a starfort on one of the old maps you show... How many starforts are there in the USA? Here in the Netherlands we have more than a hundred of these beautiful structures... I can't believe the Dutch built all of them! Greetings from the Netherlands ;-)
I live in Leeuwarden and our historic centre is just a big starfort! Love those things.
There are remnants of star forts all over the USA. Most of them are mere foundations (places like British Fort Pitt, Pennsylvania and French Fort Caroline, Florida) and some are still pretty obvious on the landscape (the American fort at Ninety-Six, South Carolina). I'm actually a (American) National Park Ranger who spent years working at various historic forts, so I geek out about this lol
Good job.
Greetings from Netherland
your videos also help spread this luckely)
Hopefully so!
Thank you. A very interesting and informative video. It provides the historical background to a more or less intuitive sense that I have had for a long time. I have lived and worked among both the English and the Dutch for many years. The English seem in many ways an alien race very different in world perspective and social mores than Americans. This cultural divide is masked by the fact that we share a common language. In contrast, despite the language difference, I almost immediately recognized strong cultural affinities between the Dutch and Americans. This has been masked in the past by the language difference but now that English is almost universally spoken in the Netherlands the commonalities can be seen much easier by visitors to that country. Somehow, despite having fought off the English colonial yoke, we held on to a national myth that obscured our ties to the Dutch in favor of a partially false myth of natural affinity to the English. I feel very much at home in the Netherlands and among the Dutch but very much a stranger in a strange land among the English and in England. A very subjective view, I know but one that grows stronger as I spend more time with both national groups.
Impressive observation, really.👍So in heart USA is closer to NL than UK.
The english are very feudal in their class system, exceedingly single minded and anti-anyone who isn't british. They are complex, biased and unforgiving. The dutch are so friendly and I love the language! The Americans are also so friendly and welcoming. So sad to see present regime flushing it down the toilet.
If you really want to see English influence on America, go up into Connecticut and Massachusetts.
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Depends on which aisle you are in. The Dutch are way more progressive than the British. We beat almost all of the world in that. The British are more conservative.
First to make a bike culture, sex work is legal, first to legalize smoking weed, first to legalize magic shrooms and first to legalize gay marriage. Very progressive compared to the UK or the rest of the world. We definitely have the same spirit in fighting for rights like the US. Maybe we secretly we love our country more than in the US. The sea of orange shirts always amazes me at sport events.
New Jersey was originally part of New Netherlands. There still are a lot of Dutch place names in northwestern New Jersey. The Reformed Churches in NJ are the oldest continuing Protestant Churches in the US, and are directly descended from the Heervormde Kerk, the old state church of the Netherlands.
in new york you also see alot of dutch names, brooklyn is based from the village breukelen for example. and there many more. that whole area is lcuekly still duthcified a bit in history and naming
Yea, or "Wall Street /Waal Straat)
@@penked88 Wasn't 'Wall-street' the street that ran along the (inner) wall surrounding the old settlement?
The main state churches in the Netherlands now are either Hervormd or Gereformeerd. The meaning of the word in English is about the same, reformed. It is the Gereformeerde kerk that prints the Bible. Can't tell you much more, because I am not sure what the difference is between the two: Their traditions look the same to me, but they themselves seem to find the difference very significant.
Nice👍
I live in Kingston, NY, and the old deeds and documents here are in Dutch. I love the history here.
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the us constantly rewrite their own history, depends who's in power and who controls what is taught in schools, if they are both the same then the history gets changed.
I wish I could disagree.
History is always writen by the group that is in power.
Its not just the US its the entire western world that want to see our own narrative more prevalently represented, just happens that the English were the long term winners of the Colonizing game and thus write history.
@@just1it1moko that's how the world works. But if you dig deep into history you can always find the truth
@@just1it1moko Isn't that how pretty much the whole world teaches its history to its youth? You think in Russia they focus on Western Europe and the US? You think in China they focus on the Western world mainly? No, offcourse not.
This ridiculous rewriting of history is getting absurd. Suddenly our Philosophy Canon HAS to be rewritten by some Woke-head who decides that there are not enough women and non-Western philosophers mentioned in the current Canon, which MIGHT very well be true. BUT, the reasoning for that should be the delivered contribution from a certain philosopher instead of what sex or etnicity a certain philosopher has and then too subjectively tally so you arrive at a certain amount of women, non-whites, non-christians, etc.
That's just so wrong and why Woke is actually a danger to our open societies and free academic thinking, which we (should) hold dear , here in the Western world.
Thank you for the series of videos. I am a descendent of these Dutch settlers of New Netherlands/Amsterdam and Long Island. It has always saddened me that we Americans don’t know much of this part of our history.
I am surprised that you did not mention the Flushing Remonstrance.
The Dutch have been very influential when it comes to American history, the many words, verbs and (street)names are proof of that.
Remember that 'apartheid' is a Dutch word that is now part of every language.
Yes as is "laager" camps
Same counts for marine navigation terminology, e.g., stuurboord, bakboord, etc..
Wasnt the 8th president martin van buren born in new york but the parents where from the netherlands?anyways love your channel✌🏼 greets from the netherlands
Partially correct! His parents were not from the Netherlands but they were decedents from immigrants from the Netherlands. Van Buren spoke Dutch as his first language and is the first and only president for English not to be his first language. Thank you! Happy you're here!
I recently was doing some looking into my ancestry- My grandmother's maiden name was Van Keuren (also documented as Van Keulen or Van Ceulen). I found something stating one of my ancestors actually purchased Manhattan from the Native Americans. One of my favorite finds is that a home purchased by my 7 or 8x great grandfather in 1711, still stands in Kingston, NY!
Great video, can I make a suggestion tho? In the beginning you read from a source, it would be nice if it was clearer where the cite start and where it ends. I think its the part while his face is on screen, but at first I wasnt sure.
Thank you! I actually noticed the same after I had published it. I’ll have to find a way to makes quotes clear in the future.
I thought everybody was taught the Dutch founded Manhattan...And I'm from Philadelphia which was actually founded by Sweden and we're taught that and our city flag is powder blue and yellow because of Sweden.
Then you should also know the Dutch conquered Philadelphia (or at least the Swedish fort that was along the river there). Only took a decade or so until the English came, burned everything down and sold the Swedish and Dutch people as slaves.
As Dutch person, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate this, since hardly anything about the colonies were taught in school... 😅
True, the dark period of slavery and our role i. It was taught extensively. Which is good, because only then can we learn from it. But in regards to colonies we barely get thought anything
Sadly this:(
@rolandtennapel5058 congrats buy a cake and celebrate it!!
As a second follow up, you could compare the Dutch Plakkaat van Verlatinghe to the US declaration of independence.
This is awesome! My 9th great patriarchal grandfather was in Kinderhook NY 1650.
The lasting impact of the Dutch on the USA is actually the name Dollar. The new US govt in the 1780s borrowed money from the Dutch, whose main coin at the time was the “rijksdaalder” and with no uniform spelling at the time, was likely spelled as dollar by the English speaking colonists.
I thought that that word came from a German silver mine called “Thaler”?
I really do hope the US will start to teach the importance of this information. Perhaps it's a good idea to go around schools and uni's all over the nation to teach this yourself? I mean, as a US citizen yourself and being well aware of this it may make you the ideal person to do so.
Maybe so! I can see where some school districts and colleges are using some of my videos by looking at the external link clicks. Hopefully that list will grow. I teach 8th grade geography which is a district level class and I was lucky enough to help write the curriculum. I talk about New Amsterdam a little in the North American unit. I also work a lot of this in when talking about topics such as the movement of ideas and cultural diffusion. If only I could figure out how to change state level curriculum.
I mean realistically learning dutch influence on america is farrrr down the list of priorities for what needs to be taught in america
As a Dutch, I recognized two 17th century words at 8:21 which are 'Brandewijnen' (liquor) and 'manschappen' (troops).
7:50 Hold up, only *that* recently!? I'm honestly excited to witness the effect that this forgotten heritage may have on future generations in New York and perhaps the whole US!
I'm from Amsterdam, and I have bean to New York City a couple of times. And I see things like Amsterdam Avenue and the Stuyvesant building and bunch of stuff that reminds me it once was Dutch (Yankees, Harlem, Broolyn: they are all derives from Dutch names). I feel somehow connected to NYC. I really like it there, but in the end, the original Amsterdam is best city in the world. Period.
En zo is het 😂👍🏻
Amsterdam best city in the world?
It isn't even the best city in the Netherlands... in fact most Dutchies see Amsterdam as the shithole of the country.
@@nickdentoom1173 That's just because they are all jealous Amsterdam is number one in everything. So yes it's objectively the best city in the Netherlands. There is nothing wrong in loving your own city over all others, but numberd don't lie.
Didn't president Martin van Buren speak Dutch as his first language and English as his second?
That is correct!
Looking at his last name, I would hope so
My understanding is that the eight President Martin van Buren grew up speaking Dutch as his first language. The Catskills were originally the “ Katerskills”. There are many places called “kills”: Otterkill, Fishkill. Kill means creek.
Just like the two Roosevelts both talked Dutch at home.
Wall street, with the trading, started with the netherlands at the VOC
Interesting peace of history
I agree! Thanks for watching!
I wonder how much people here are dutch and just wanted to see what there was to say about is
From how far I am in the coments I didn’t see one non Dutch person and I have bin scrolling for at least 10 minutes
Ok im back I have read all the comments and found 1 American and the rest was Dutch for as far I know
Using a timeline of events allows influences to be under or over stated. For example Jamestown is now discounted in favor of Plymouth. Perhaps a more comprehensive way to look at Dutch influence is in the enduring cultural legacies -- such as the stock market, dollars (not pounds), government structure and religious pluralism. The way that the 17 provinces of the Netherlands were combined into the United Kingdom of Netherlands mirrors the United States, complete with a Senate and House of Representatives. Some have argued that the House and Senate structure was influenced by Dutch contact with the Iroquois nations.
If you're interested, the old bergen church that still exists in Jersey City on highland ave. was built by the dutch settlers in 1660. If you are able to get permission to visit the little cemetery across the street, you can find quite a few gravestones inscibed in dutch.
'Snack' is actually a dutch loanword
Yacht too.
english language is full of words from dutch origin.
I saw many video's about this subject, it funny to see that the modern American not even know the Netherlands and if they know it they can't tell where it is on a map.........I live in the Netherlands btw and I am born Dutch. Still a small country but we live here peacefully.
Finally,... Thank you, Anne from Flanders Belgium 💙🐟
10:39 Beautiful shot of the NYC skyline.
I'm Dutch and I always wondered how such a small country could have such a big influence on the world. I also found out that a lot of our history is suppressed or changed but I still don't know why and what is kept hidden from us. Even today our role within Europe is much bigger than we are supposed to believe. I studied our history for 25 years and it's full of inconsistencies and strange turns of events that don't make sense. This is one of those "strange turn of events". We always had a "love / hate" relationship with the British; we were collaborating with them or fighting wars with them. There was even a Dutch King on the British Throne in the eighteen hundreds and even then we did not reclaim New Amsterdam. None of it makes any sense.
And you're right it seems suppressed history, in the Netherlands a lot of people know that New York was once New Amsterdam but that is about it. Hardly anyone knows anything about the Dutch history in North America. A lot of Dutch people can learn something from your video's :) Keep up the good work!
Not least because most of the Dutch (bar some Frisians and Saxons) are Frankish and that part of our history is completely ignored in favor of a holland-centric and pro orange family history
Congrats if ur dutch
The problem lies not in US but in British history and a pfenomonan called Whig history. basicly this was a representation of the British history being a logical progression from humble origens to world domination. The Dutch represented a problem. As from the first spark of English dominance unde Elisabeth 1 the English actually declined when they were overschadowed by the Dutch. The best way to get rid of this was writing them out of the history all together. To this day many claims of Whig history are considered facts in the UK. But British education systems have been hard at work setting the records straight in recent years
“History Is Written by the Victors” Winston Churchill
@@AlexanderWeurding they did not win
So true. And almost nobody realizes that most of world history outside Europe is based on the old colonists point of view.
The Dutch: *completely destroy most of the British Navy's ships laying in the harbour at Chatham and tow the HMS Royal Charles back to the Netherlands*
British Historians: "I'll pretend I didn't see that"
@@TheJH1015 still the most humiliating defeat of the royal navies history
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Thanks man!
Nice video! Have you read 'The Island at the Centre of the World' by Russell Shorto? Its a very readable history of New Amsterdam and its legacy
Thanks! I have. Great book! The ‘The Island at the Center of the World’ was my biggest source of information for the last two Dutch related videos I made. I’ve read ‘Amsterdam’ as well, another great book.
It’s less people don’t know, and I think more that people don’t care. Not very many people seem to care for history, they’d rather make up their own history.