This is easily one of my favorite scenes in Season 1. Falcone can forgive most forms of betrayal, but when someone uses his own family against him, that's where they crossed the line.
I love how Fish tries to defend herself but when Falcone steps forward she’s hushed immediately. He played a mob boss perfectly. He commanded a kind of stage presence that no other character could challenge and demanded respect.
Nasir The Senate Johnson the man has a behavior that could easily be mistaken as a kind old man, someone’s grandfather maybe but the ominous undertones of a dangerous criminal. Falcone was one of my favorite characters by far
Powerful scene, but it would have been even better if Penguin never told Falcone that Liza was working for Fish. And then he just straight up murders her, not knowing if she is loyal to him, and shows how determined he is to protect his empire. But yeah, Penguin and Falcone severely outsmarted and outclassed Fish in this one.
gorrow1990 I think he knew after being compromised Liza may be killed anyway, he didn't want to give anyone else the satisfaction, it's basically a way of saying "You think you're bad, but I'm worse".
ToxicFlame707 Nah I just think it was Falcone's way of showing that you can't beat him even if you attack him at his only weak point. By killing his "mother" himself he basically shows that you have absolutely nothing to ever dream of blackmailing him
There is a reason why Don Falcone is the true king of Gotham. He’s been in the game for a long time and commanded the respect of people like Jim and Harvey. At the end of the day, it’s all business and leaders must make an example to show their power
Man season 1 and 2 were probably my favorites cause of the suspense, like, you see Don Falcone, and you already know he’s the boss, you saw him enter in episode 1 to save Gordon and Bullock, and his presence it just...badass....and Penguin, although I wasn’t a fan of him before watching Gotham...actually impressed me, season 1-2 showed how he went from literally nothing to being the King of Gotham
Great acting, but the music is what really sells this scene. Love the ominous undertone that begins when the flower is dropped and penguin's thematic entrance.
C'mon falcone, really? There was no need to kill poor Liza, could of let her go, obviously it was fish Mooney's fault, and fish cared for Liza when falcone was choking her, wow sad face
A m j e l She helped Fish deceive him it doesn’t matter Fish was calling the shots it matters she willingly deceived him and used his mother against him
Man i felt so bad for her i mean she was just an innocent person she didnt have to die. I didn't expect this, i almost shed a tear. It was like he was killing his own mother because she looked just like her ya know
i can't believe that jada pinkett smith is the same actress from madagascar 2005, Niobe from matrix reloaded 2003 and The Matrix Revolutions 2003 how cool can you get !!!
Welcome to the world. Plenty of people regularly are condemned just for doing what they are "told". This happens regularly to employees, soldiers, policemen, etc. Society doesnt show them any mercy. Only if we, the audience. are exposed to their individual circumstances is there any possibility of mercy and even then it is still low.
Ludith Vazquez In an earlier episode, he called her "Fish" and she nearly strangled him for it while bitterly stating, "Only my *friends* call me 'Fish.'" Oswald saying that gets under her skin and he knows it, but he is now under Falcone's protection. This is his way of showing how the tables have turned for her; now the Penguin has the upper hand and there's nothing that she can do to him. If you actually see this, Ludith, that's why the simple remark of "Hello, Fish." is so significant. It's more about the fact that he called her "Fish" than the remark itself.
I think I'm gonna hate Falcone for killing Liza who was only a kid who was only taking orders from her boss, she refused to carry out the poisoning attempt on Falcone and he kills her regardless.
@@niakowinchester kill I wouldn't be too sure, maybe she was just knocked out cold. In a way it kind of was self defense because she was half reluctant to fight the other girl.
SPOILER! for those who haven't seen season 3. Anyway I would just like to say how I just hope Carmine Falcone to return as kingpin of gotham. I'm tiered of Penguin atm, I'd like to see butch, riddler, Barbra and Tabitha take charge only to be then put in thier place by Falcone. Carmine looks, acts and feels like a true mob boss. he is scary, famous and overall has the charisma needed to be kingpin. in the original comics Falcone is the kingpin during Batman's first year in crime fighting so it would make sense for him to take controll again especially after the fact James gordon killed his only son who was supposed his only "good child". Hopefully all the chaos in Gotham will motivate him to come back and stay incharge for about a decade until bruce becomes batman. I'd also like to see carmine become more ruthless. As in season 1 he seemed to be more chaotic neutral. I'd like to see more of a ruthless falcone who will kill anyone who gets in his way. atleast now falcone has a reason to not like James gordon. either way I just hope they don't kill him off like they did to Maroni. that was really stupid! Maroni is the second biggest crime boss in Gotham and they kill him off before bruce becomes batman. wow I mean Maroni plays a vital role in the dark knight and in the comics he is the one who sprays acid on Harvey Dents face. in my opinion carmine falcone was the only reason the first season of gotham was so good. they better keep him and live though out the entire series!
I'm pointing this out because I haven't seen anyone else do it, but like if you look at victor when Carmines Killing Liza, even though it's out of focus you can see the biggest grin ever on his face, made me laugh, he's insane
Each of us in our lives are presented with choices that determine events long after we've decided. If he had let Liza live everyone would know that she, and his mother's memory, could be used against him effect. Sometimes the right choices hurt like hell but they're nothing compared to the agony caused by weakness.
Outside of Carmine Falcone strangling Liza to death, Victor Zsasz and those who came with Carmine Falcone did away with all the members of Fish Mooney's gang that were lingering outside.
I see a lot of people saying he shouldn’t have killed Eliza ,but I disagree and get it. She willfully and knowingly helped use his mother against him and was a major accomplice to Fish’s plan.
Falcone and Oswald could have been best friends,, both of them loves their mothers very much despite their jobs. But Penguin had goal and Falcone's right on his way
this scene is the best if you've been watching the show from the start also isn't that weird fish didn't figure out then and there that carmine and Oswald worked together
Sorry but Zsasz and his Girls are a Little bit over the top. Well Zsasz is badass but cut them out. It's the friggin Mafia. By the way this should have been the season 1 finale after having a Status quo to built up Change. Maroni vs Faclone vs Fish for season 2 while Wayne murder subplot is going on.
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This is easily one of my favorite scenes in Season 1. Falcone can forgive most forms of betrayal, but when someone uses his own family against him, that's where they crossed the line.
I respect that
GI Jack rip Falcone tho. Screw Sofia
Classic mafia style. Backstabbing and skullduggery? It’s just business, nothing personal. But family? That’s not something anyone can forgive.
@@LordCommander-ui2fw especially with the guy who puts a hit on your head for killing his son
It's bs tho how she die when she only got choked he didn't snap her neck like wth
I love how Fish tries to defend herself but when Falcone steps forward she’s hushed immediately. He played a mob boss perfectly. He commanded a kind of stage presence that no other character could challenge and demanded respect.
Agreed. That was my favorite part, how he just shifted towards her and she instantly froze up
Nasir The Senate Johnson the man has a behavior that could easily be mistaken as a kind old man, someone’s grandfather maybe but the ominous undertones of a dangerous criminal. Falcone was one of my favorite characters by far
As the actor who played falcone said in batman begins thats the power of fear
Never mess with a man's mother or her memory. You will get burned or worse
BODLive08
its the things we love the most that destroy us
It's also the things that keep us going.
Same with fisk
A little birdy told him?
Aha... Get it, cause he's Pen- yeah...
νιятυєѕ He said a little bird not birdy.
@@spacewhale8279 basically the same just a y at the end
powerful scene. I will miss Liza, she is so beautiful.
I don't miss her at all she's waste space in the show and Fish need to die soon, old ugly mama-san, pimp mama, human trash
@Quinn Thomas Fr😂
She was stupid
The world is rule for the evil men
I evil
@@sonnyrabel532 said the man with Frieza pp
poor liza, I did like her character too
megan willard yes😍
She'll come back from a "coma" and become Harley 😂
No.
Fish actually wanted too protect Eliza
She must have had care for her like as a daughter figure wow bravo fish bravo
J roque She should have saw this coming, trying to mess with Falcone's head and using Eliza as a pawn. Don't know why she was surprised.
J roque Maybe but she seem like Fish was bisexual like she really wanted Eliza but we will never know.
Falcone's a true mafia don... :)
2:17 that wistle, love viktor
Badass
Falcone is one of the best characters in the show. Really convinces you he is a mob boss and he's a force to be reckoned with
John Doman did an excellent job
Powerful scene, but it would have been even better if Penguin never told Falcone that Liza was working for Fish. And then he just straight up murders her, not knowing if she is loyal to him, and shows how determined he is to protect his empire. But yeah, Penguin and Falcone severely outsmarted and outclassed Fish in this one.
gorrow1990 I think he knew after being compromised Liza may be killed anyway, he didn't want to give anyone else the satisfaction, it's basically a way of saying "You think you're bad, but I'm worse".
ToxicFlame707 Nah I just think it was Falcone's way of showing that you can't beat him even if you attack him at his only weak point. By killing his "mother" himself he basically shows that you have absolutely nothing to ever dream of blackmailing him
But he would have no reason to murder her if penguin didnt tell him about the betrayal?
I love this scene because it shows the pain and suffering oswald inflicts on others without him even being there.
He did care for her, but business comes first, he needed to send a message. He did just that.
There is a reason why Don Falcone is the true king of Gotham. He’s been in the game for a long time and commanded the respect of people like Jim and Harvey. At the end of the day, it’s all business and leaders must make an example to show their power
I feel so bad for Falcone. I saw how much it hurt him to kill her
At first I was like "Okay, this Falcone is alright." And then I got to this scene for the first time, and wow. He just exudes power in this scene.
One of my favorite scenes from Gotham, had to come back and rewatch it. So powerful.
just love 2:10 when victor and his crew comes in
*Zsasz's ringtone plays.*
3:35
Fish: Carmine, you have to underst-
Falcone: *interrupts her without speaking*
What is there to understand? Her intentions were clear and she really has no defense for herself
Easily my favourite scene out of the whole series... I don't know why, but it's just so powerful.
I find it funny that Fish died and came back to life but Falcone still outlived her despite getting a second chance.
Damn! Just when I was thinking Liza could turn into some AU version of the original Black Canary.
Ikr ! Damn
Would have been better than what Arrow gave us....
Who would've guessed Penguin would choose to let Fish go instead of kill her?
There are few characters in the Batman verse that are both universally known and feared, Carmine Falcone is one of those characters.
This is why this was one of my favourite episodes thus far in Gotham
Lightingwarrior you still watching the show?
Are you still watching the show?
@@ImKingReal Why are you asking that when Gotham is over
@@Lightingwarrior you didn't answer Dirty Dave's question.
THE ONE TRUE KING OF GOTHAM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS DON CARMINE FALCONE!!
Man season 1 and 2 were probably my favorites cause of the suspense, like, you see Don Falcone, and you already know he’s the boss, you saw him enter in episode 1 to save Gordon and Bullock, and his presence it just...badass....and Penguin, although I wasn’t a fan of him before watching Gotham...actually impressed me, season 1-2 showed how he went from literally nothing to being the King of Gotham
It is in this moment, Falcone reminds Fish who is master of the pond.
Great acting, but the music is what really sells this scene. Love the ominous undertone that begins when the flower is dropped and penguin's thematic entrance.
C'mon falcone, really? There was no need to kill poor Liza, could of let her go, obviously it was fish Mooney's fault, and fish cared for Liza when falcone was choking her, wow sad face
He needed to show Fish that no-one manipulates him and gets away with it.
A m j e l She helped Fish deceive him it doesn’t matter Fish was calling the shots it matters she willingly deceived him and used his mother against him
if he didn’t kill her, it shows the weakness of him
He needed to kill her personally to show he was still in charge..
The penguin always wins #gotham
Penguin will rule
I can relate to Carmine in this scene. There's a lot I can forgive but not when someone hurts my family.
Weird how falcone daughter would try this on penguin later even though penguin was there for this.
Falcone is a boss.
I don't think he will survive this season.
Badjoke Maker hope he survives he just got badass
SomeRandomGuy558 Why? Because he can kill 18 year old Girls with his bare Hands?
No it's how he acknowledges to Mooney that he's back and remembers why he's there
After killing a Little Girl...yeah that's way to get your mojo back. And what does he next? He sends other People to do the dirty work.
I feel so sad for Liza she was my fav
Man i felt so bad for her i mean she was just an innocent person she didnt have to die. I didn't expect this, i almost shed a tear. It was like he was killing his own mother because she looked just like her ya know
Falcone isn't exactly what we'd call a sane guy.
+UrsaTheBear I know but still she didn't deserve to die
She was not innocent, she worked for Fish Mooney because she wanted to be a part of her gang. She knew what she was doing.
@@iRazenrak no no no... Fish Mooney said that Liza be able to be a powerful woman and be successful
RIP Liza
That's why you don't try to manipulate Carmine Falcone, you just know it'll end badly.
At this point Victor was only in 2 eps but everyone loved him cuz of his child like yet dangerous personality
i can't believe that jada pinkett smith is the same actress from madagascar 2005, Niobe from matrix reloaded 2003 and The Matrix Revolutions 2003 how cool can you get !!!
Penguin owns once again.
The look on butch's face 2:21 just says it "we're fu*'ed"
A bit harsh on Liza...she was only doing what Mooney told her to do.
He had to make an example out of her.
Welcome to the world. Plenty of people regularly are condemned just for doing what they are "told". This happens regularly to employees, soldiers, policemen, etc. Society doesnt show them any mercy. Only if we, the audience. are exposed to their individual circumstances is there any possibility of mercy and even then it is still low.
I loved Liza can't even believe he killed her😭
Penguin: Hello Fish.
Fish: Why you little...
Penguin: Go Fish! xD
I think Liza appearance is really suit to become harley quin, blonde, attractive
and dead.
Love this portrayal of falcone
Ludith Vazquez In an earlier episode, he called her "Fish" and she nearly strangled him for it while bitterly stating, "Only my *friends* call me 'Fish.'" Oswald saying that gets under her skin and he knows it, but he is now under Falcone's protection. This is his way of showing how the tables have turned for her; now the Penguin has the upper hand and there's nothing that she can do to him.
If you actually see this, Ludith, that's why the simple remark of "Hello, Fish." is so significant. It's more about the fact that he called her "Fish" than the remark itself.
I think I'm gonna hate Falcone for killing Liza who was only a kid who was only taking orders from her boss, she refused to carry out the poisoning attempt on Falcone and he kills her regardless.
Well she used the memory of his mother to bring him down.
You do remember that she killed the other girl to win this place, right?
@@niakowinchester I don't think she killed her, just beat her in a fight
@@niakowinchester kill I wouldn't be too sure, maybe she was just knocked out cold. In a way it kind of was self defense because she was half reluctant to fight the other girl.
@@MachinaX7 still a bad reason to kill someone.
2:18 - 2:21 ZSASZ
2:52 try to see behind monney ,you will see victor's enjoying smile while liza choking to death.
I wonder if Liza told the truth he’d let her live. 🤔
How does everyone just know right when to walk in? As if he even said the magic words, they would be able to hear it...Smh.
I did think Liza was going to be some type of villian. I liked her character.
SPOILER! for those who haven't seen season 3. Anyway I would just like to say how I just hope Carmine Falcone to return as kingpin of gotham. I'm tiered of Penguin atm, I'd like to see butch, riddler, Barbra and Tabitha take charge only to be then put in thier place by Falcone. Carmine looks, acts and feels like a true mob boss. he is scary, famous and overall has the charisma needed to be kingpin. in the original comics Falcone is the kingpin during Batman's first year in crime fighting so it would make sense for him to take controll again especially after the fact James gordon killed his only son who was supposed his only "good child". Hopefully all the chaos in Gotham will motivate him to come back and stay incharge for about a decade until bruce becomes batman. I'd also like to see carmine become more ruthless. As in season 1 he seemed to be more chaotic neutral. I'd like to see more of a ruthless falcone who will kill anyone who gets in his way. atleast now falcone has a reason to not like James gordon. either way I just hope they don't kill him off like they did to Maroni. that was really stupid! Maroni is the second biggest crime boss in Gotham and they kill him off before bruce becomes batman. wow I mean Maroni plays a vital role in the dark knight and in the comics he is the one who sprays acid on Harvey Dents face. in my opinion carmine falcone was the only reason the first season of gotham was so good. they better keep him and live though out the entire series!
I'm pointing this out because I haven't seen anyone else do it, but like if you look at victor when Carmines Killing Liza, even though it's out of focus you can see the biggest grin ever on his face, made me laugh, he's insane
Fish cared about Liza... woot..? 2:51
Veni, Vidi, Vici.
"But you went after my mother mr Urich!!"
These two scenes are just as badass as each other.
When this happened I was practically chanting guile theme from the bottom of my lungs.
Falcone is the one true savior of Gotham.
Vote Falcone 2016
Thanks for putting this up, i had missed the ending
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I just love John Doman aka (Don Falcone).
This scene reminds me of when Wilson Fisk killed Ben Urich in Daredevil
Falcone is the realest in the streets. His parts in this scene really made me feel some type of way.
My favorite scene ever
That was so good!! Powerful fucking scene, so unexpected
my favourite episode
This was one of the darkest bits of Season 1.
The Penguin's gonna get his fish. Seriously though, Oswald likes fish.
Liza was not innocent because she lied about not knowing Fish. She was friends for a long time. She deserved to die.
I feel like "she deserved to die" was too much....
I lied to my mom about knowing a troublemaker named jerry at meh school so i have to die. Correct?
She did not! She really loved Falcone...
Ave, true to Caesar
Each of us in our lives are presented with choices that determine events long after we've decided. If he had let Liza live everyone would know that she, and his mother's memory, could be used against him effect. Sometimes the right choices hurt like hell but they're nothing compared to the agony caused by weakness.
Penguins eat Fish.
Liza nooooooo she was my fav😔😔😔
Outside of Carmine Falcone strangling Liza to death, Victor Zsasz and those who came with Carmine Falcone did away with all the members of Fish Mooney's gang that were lingering outside.
I would of at least said something better then "hello fish"
I see a lot of people saying he shouldn’t have killed Eliza ,but I disagree and get it. She willfully and knowingly helped use his mother against him and was a major accomplice to Fish’s plan.
CHILLING 👽👽👽👽
Oswald 3!!! great scene perhaps..
Using his own mother against him. & the fact that he had to kill her makes it even worse. Fish Mooney was pure evil
In Batman: TAS, Falcone once explicitly stated to his rival Arnold Stromwell that he didn't attack his enemies' families.
That was Rupert Thorne.
Falcone and Oswald could have been best friends,, both of them loves their mothers very much despite their jobs. But Penguin had goal and Falcone's right on his way
Falcone is the best gang lord of Gotham
this scene is the best if you've been watching the show from the start
also isn't that weird fish didn't figure out then and there that carmine and Oswald worked together
i love Liza she going to pas to a better life
Darn gotta feel bad she was young she could have had such a happy life but she join the wrong crowd and it cost her her life
Oswald is hot lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Lmaooooo
Liza is so freaking hot, them lips
+ZacNabz I think that is the least pretty thing about her.
Hello, FISH!
Hello fish :D
Carmine "The Roman" Falcone will always be remembered as The Godfather of Gotham.
i find it almost impossible for a mob boss to forgive betrayal. But hey whatever he says goes
he really loves his mom
make Gotham great again
You don't mess with someone's memory of their Mother.
That killing of Liza would actually last minutes. Guess she just played dead and Old Fart Falcone fell for it.
Never ever wake up a sleeping giant...
I mean she had to go. She had a resting duck face :/
Liza looks so much like Sofia
Really? I don't see it.
Sorry but Zsasz and his Girls are a Little bit over the top. Well Zsasz is badass but cut them out. It's the friggin Mafia. By the way this should have been the season 1 finale after having a Status quo to built up Change. Maroni vs Faclone vs Fish for season 2 while Wayne murder subplot is going on.
He didn't want to kill her
They could've killed butch here and then make him into grundy but in hiding
what did he mean by sainted mother? was his mother actually a saint, or is it just an expression
It was an expression