The Death and Return of Superman (SNES) James & Mike Mondays
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- James Rolfe and Mike Matei play The Death and Return of Superman for Super Nintendo!
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Cartridge was broken and you had to get another? That makes this The Death and Return of The Death and Return of Superman.
*Inception horn*
::Yo dawg, I heard you liked the death and return of Superman. So we put a death and return of the death and return of Superman::
People still misusing inception. *ding*
I would just get an everdrive. Never have to buy another cartridge
That's definitely a potential inception joke
"It reminds me of Elvis"
*Zooms in on a confused Mike*
And to sum up four superman.
Steel was a construction worker saved by superman and was inspired to save people like superman. So he made himself the man of steel (iron man)
Superboy is a clone. Half of lex luthor(we find this out way later)and half superman.
Eradicator is a program to protect the legacy of Kyrpton. He steals superman's corpse and uses it as a battery to gather solar radiation to give him his powers. Eventually superman just comes back from absorbing enough solar radiation.
Cyborg Superman is Hank Henshaw. Hank Henshaw had a family and his origin is essentially Fantastic Four, was in space and radiation or whatever. Superman saves his wife and hank was able to download his mind into a computer. When he goes to talk to his wife she dies of fright cause he's a robot. When superman dies he bonds with the shuttle that brought superman here. He makes the superman dna part from the birthing matrix or whatever in the ship. And he makes himself the cyborg superman with the DNA and parts of the ship.
Steel was a weapons designer that felt disgusted and went into hiding by changing his name. When he saw his old tech on the streets he decided to become a hero after supes died. Supes did save him while he was working construction as well
Eradicator takes credit for supes coming to life saying supes was definitely dead. But since the body didn't decay, he brought him back no using all the radiation he had inside him. And he accidentally got confused during this process and became one of the Supermen.
And Superboy just gets more complex with new continuity...while I believe Connor Kent and Jon Kent both exist, they're 2 different beings and yet have somewhat similar powers.
I believe young justice covers the super boy story well
And has nothing to do with Cyborg
One really underrated Superman game that handles Superman’s invulnerability really well is Superman Returns for the PS2 and Xbox.
In that game Superman is invulnerable and has no health bar. Instead, the entire city of Metropolis has a health bar and if it’s depleted(either from enemy attacks or casualties from your carelessness), then it’s game over.
Ive never heard superman returns. And underrated in the same sentence.
I absofuckinglutely loved the Superman Returns game it was so much damn fun and I think they did it right just the era the game came out didn't yet allow for a complex enough of an open world for the game to work properly. Imagine Red Dead 2 size open world and complexity with this games mechanics it would be so damn perfect
Dude this game made me so sick when I flew around
Problem with that game is that even when you're fighting foes that by all rights should be able to harm you, Supes doesn't actually get a personal health bar.
For anyone that's going to also try this game, you can grab enemies and trow them to the background wall, breaking background objects and sometimes gaining items.
Steel was the only one who didn’t claim to be Superman. He said he built the suit to fight in Superman’s memory.
Superboy admitted to being a clone right away, too, but insisted on wanting to be called Superman, and even hired an agent who trademarked the rights to the name.
Just like Ozzy when he says “No more tours” “Last time you’ll ever see Ozzy Osbourne play” this was back in 1992 or so!!
Reagan Dow I remember that intro too. That's from the Live & Loud DVDs.
Reagan Dow I remember seeing sabbath on their “last tour” in 2001.
I was just telling my girlfriend how I've been to two different Kiss reunion tour shows. And he'll Motley Crue has had a total of 29 farewell tours. I believe that is th record for bands to have farewell shows. LoL
Mateo Incognito I saw them at Lollapalooza in 2011lol
B-Side Malone because of that nonsense, a guy I know didn't bother to go see Ramones on their final tour, assuming they'd get back together and do another tour, this time with DeeDee
"Eradicator is basically just Superman with cool sunglasses" 😂
At least you don't fly through rings
skijumpnose this guy...
Where did you learn to fly?
Walter Hunt he learned from AVGN... :)
Then there's no time to waste!
@@nobel11 Where did you learn to be an asshole?
What's a beat'em up without an elevator
the Dungeons and Dragons ones.
A beat em
@@supafloy this comment is criminally underrated
A beat 'em down.
A beat'em along the way?
"James Reads Bloated, Over-Complicated 90s Comic Book Crossover Events And Tries To Explain Them To Mike A Month Later" is a great concept.
Well I think I know how you feel about the death and return of Superman
You guys did a lot better than I did as a kid. I remember renting this game as a kid and being super frustrated from being overwhelmed by enemies and not getting vary far. This and the Spider-Man Maximum Carnage game I remember just being super brutal.
Yea maximum carnage was fucking brutal
But when you do finally beat them you feel like you are a goddamn superhero
The good news about this game is unlimited continues, the bad news is that you always start at the beginning of the stage you're currently are, and some of them have 2 or more areas, however the game is very beatable once you learn a thing or two about the mechanics of it.
That death and return of this video, I remember this game for its comic flowing style similar to maximum carnage, but I could never get past the third stage… And what was up with the mullet for Superman?
Blaze Piffington Mullet was Hip back in the 90's and 00's
Mullet's were the preferred 'do for saviors from Krypton. Lara rocks a mullet merkin.
Lord-JP Awesome
So true it was either mullet or the mushroom cut and the latter just wouldn't suit the man o steel
It twas the 90s. We're lucky he didn't have a rat tail
One of the only Superman games that doesn't suck.
Oh come on what about Superman 64 and the Atari 2600 game? And the NES game?
Cinemassacre what about injustice franchise
What about the 1988 arcade game by Taito?
All I want is an Arkham Asylum for the man of steel to rehabilitate Superman's long time image in video games.
Intimidation no there's another superman game that good it's an arcade game that never made it to console
Elvis didn't die... he just went home
I love that line from Tommy Lee Jones in M.I.B
Best Superman game I ever played. Not that the competition is fierce though.
Superman Returns on the 360 was pretty good.
Man of Steel on original xbox is good too
+jekblom123 You mean the game where the final boss is a tornado. That game was shite.
My favorite was the open world on 360.
64 superman is the best!
I rented the Genesis/Megadrive port from a video store back in the '90s, and I instantly fell in love with this game.
I managed to add the Snes port to my Snes classic.
It is one of those hidden gems that are a must play.
I also have this game on the genesis it's pretty good although it's tough to beat
Iron Maiden Rocks
I love the artwork in Death of Superman. Really good stuff along with a good story
I had this game, really liked it. Eradicator was my favorite.
A couple of story details that James missed, based on my memory: Part of how Superman comes back is that an automated system at the Fortress of Solitude sends out robots to recover his body and places it in some kind of regeneration chamber, which is when Eradicator enters there and that is how he gains a Superman-like body. For Doomsday, I think how he returns from the time travel trap is that there was a story where Superman figures he needs Doomsday to defeat a bigger threat, and so he goes to recover him.
"How could he get his powers back if he doesn't have the super powers to get his powers back?"
-Mike Matei
Superman’s character animations look like the exact same as Spider-Man from Maximum Carnage.
YOU DON'T NEED TO TAP IT! Just press it in the air once and than he fly non-stop then you press it again to cancel it. You are just switching it off and on in mid-air.(17:38)
Simple answer Mike, there would be no game at all if we could. And yes, there are flying levels with shooting elements.(21:07)
I finished this game before (14 years ago, on a real snes too) and I came to realize that slamming people into the background is faster and safer than just punching/kicking them because you can get out of harm easily, althought killing enemies is slower but that was a decent trade-off when there was like two million enemies on the screen.
I remember playing this back in the day and getting so pissed that this game was so hard. I actually made it all the way to playing as Steel, but that was as far I ever got. I've never seen the ending to this game. It's one of those that the difficulty, lives and checkpoints make finishing it an expert challenge.
too many people remember this game but anyone ever play superman arcade game. It was superman and shazam. Aka capt marvel. That game was kinda dope. From the late 80's era.
Yes, I love that game for nostalgia reasons.
The death and return of Elvis: ElvisBoy, Cyborg Elvis, The Elvisdicator , The man of Memphis
"Why is Superman getting hurt by molotovs?"
Because then there wouldn't be a game, Mike. I actually think about that kind of stuff a lot too in these games but if the games were 100% loyal to the comics, there wouldn't BE games.
It's obviously easier to hum a tune from memory that you've heard a million times than a recent one. In an alternate world where the Mario 3D theme and the Mario Bros theme are swapped, you'd remember the one James was trying to hum with no effort and might struggle more with the classic theme we're so used to.
The flying mechanics in Superman Returns on PS2/Xbox 360 we’re so awesome, but that was about it, take that and revamp it and add in a great original story with an excellent fluid combat system, boom..I hope the “best” Superman game has yet to be made...
Great episode. I really enjoy watching James explain the plot to anything.
I remember this storyline when it came out, and while it had its corny moments, before we knew who Eradicator, the Cyborg, or Superboy really were it was a neat mystery initially to try to figure out which one was actually Superman. I know they just released a DC animation of the “Death of Superman” storyline and the next movie is actually going to be this story in a DC animation! I remember renting this game for a weekend once when I was in middle school or high school and while I enjoyed it, I didn’t get much further than James & Mike!
Death of Superman animated movie was amazing. Can't wait for Reign of the Supermen movie.
Jump Up Superstar from Super Mario Odyssey? Very memorable.
thanks for coming to nickel city con!! Glad I could meet you!
BLO!!!!
I like the color blue that superman has in this game. It's dark without sacrificing any of the vibrant color unlike the movie version
I recommend the DC animated films for the Death of Superman. They did the Justice League War which is kind of a take on Darkseid. Then they recently did an excellent adaptation of the Death of Superman and they’re going to release a follow up called the Reign of the Supermen. They’re all excellent films.
I'm rewatching them now and the one that has felt the weakest was maybe Throne of Atlantis, though even that was pretty good in an Aquaman centered story. Although now I've confused my brain with Young Justice, where Ocean Master is apparently a good guy
And Cyborg.
@ 9:50 Prince actually did do a remix of the 1960's Batman TV show theme for the 1989 Burton movie. It was called the Bat Dance.
Basically Superman dying was a stall for Clark and Lois' wedding, because the characters on the TV show "Lois and Clark" hadn't gotten married yet, and DC thought it would be too confusing for readers.
FYI: Danny Elfman's Batman theme is featured in parts of Justice League.
Yes, and it does not work. I do like some of the original composition, like the intro theme for Batman at the rooftop. I wish Zimmer or at least Junke XL could have made the score of Justice League.
Pinehurst Media and Superman’s theme too when he shows up.
Renualdo hahahahahaha!!!! We’re talking about music buddy. Not ambiance and noise.
That ii debatable, because Zimmer music it is more integrated wit the the Nolan and Snyder movies, it is not background music to the scenes, you can understand better the themes of the pictures with his OST, and Elfman score for JL is just there, I guess.
"Enter Cyborg" is the best track in the score!
THE Only superman game that doesn't suck. one of my all time favorite and i still have my copy of it. so much memories.
Making a lil' bit of research on the story made this all the more enjoying, thank you James.
23:22 that's different then what i heard of for cyborg superman's origin.. i heard he was scientist named hank henshaw that was in space with his wife and he died by having his skin melted off by some kind of radiation and uploaded his brain into a machine before he died.. then he built a robot body and somehow came to blame superman for his current state cause superman was there and save his wife during the same accident that killed hank... this off the top of my head.. im a nerd i guess lol
Didn't Hank lose his memory and he thought he was Superman because he couldn't remember the truth...?
Man, this shit is hard to remember.
Also, convoluted as fuck.
Basically Cyborg Superman's oriign was DC making fun of the Fantastic Four's origin story.
Adam your right there. Hanks origin was baiscally a retelling of the Fantastic Four origin but it doesnt end happily. Hanks wife ended up killing herself and thats why he blames Supes.
Best synopsis: "Death and Return of Superman" on youtube by Max Landis....good stuff
I actually thought the concept in the Superman returns game was kinda cool. Superman himself doesn't really die. He can get knocked out if he runs out of energy but gets back up once he charges again. It's the city that takes damage from the villains and if it takes too much you lose which kinda makes sense
If you don't fly through rings then this is no superman game..
Lol what....
Superman 64 was trash
Remember Superman Returns for ps 2 was it? The only fun was flying long enough to break the sound barrier lol!
Or if your not the same size as the ☎️ doesn’t count
Kids, I'll now teach you how to beat this game.
1. Never confront an enemy straightfoward. Go diagonal, grab, punch, throw, repeat. If surrounded, quickly grab and throw. Much less likely to get hit if you do that.
2. Always kill the flying enemies first.
3. Save your special moves for the bosses.
4. NEVER use heat vision or any projectiles for that matter. They suck hard.
5. Cyborg Superman is RELENTLESSLY hard (even by following step 1), so grab all extra lives you can get. You'll need them!
Also, what a great video this was!!!
I had a dream last night where I was hanging out with Mike. All he wanted to do is play video games and stream them. I would go into other rooms, and we could see him streaming the game on youtube. Hahaha. He would see that I owned a certain game, and say that he wanted to play it, and then would stream it.
I remember command and conquer, red alert 2 was a game I owned that he was streaming in my dream. And then I told him about Red Alert 3 and that it had Tim Curry in it, and he got all excited about it. Pretty funny.
Mike and Tim Curry...? Bruh, share those drugs!
I seem to remember part of the print campaign pushing each of the Supermen as titles Superman held: the Cyborg was the Man of Tomorrow, Eradicator was the Last Son of Krypton, Steel was the Man of Steel, and then Superboy.
OK now we're in business! Tried watching it earlier but it must have been blocked or something but this has made my day. Now if I can only find the damn game & play it myself.
everdrive
5:09 Szchezuan sauce...
13:35 What happens here is that THAT theme is still fresh, while the others have stayed in our mind not only because they're memorable, but also they have been hammered in our head time and again. Don't feel bad.
Nintendo first party games always have great music, Mike. You should go back and listen the music on Odyssey. It's great and very memorable.
the epic dany elfman batman movie theme keeps getting used all over the place, even in places like in the lego batman games, some DLC races for Batman Arkham Knight and so forth... it's probably one of the most iconic theme superhero theme songs that's managed to stick around for so long
New memorable Nintendo game themes: Mario Odyssey.
You can't deny it.
Also Captain Toad treasure tracker
3d world?
Jump Up, Super Star! is _catchy._
Smash Bros Ultimate too
"Lookout! The evil Superman is behind you!"
~crowd turns around~
"I said behind you..."
- Cyborg Superman
"Music isn't recognizable anymore" amen to that James
For those who are curious, Doomsday is a science experiment. He was dressed in that suit by the lab. He is from Krypton originally, which is why he is strong enough on Earth to kill Superman.
I thought Doomsday's begining outfit was like...a burial shroud of sorts. Wherever he came from (I forget) that's how they buried their dead. But I'm probably wrong idk why that's what I remember.
You know there is far more good and memorable video game music than just Mario and Zelda themes. For example Final Fantasy is full of those including now legendary The One Winged Angel from FF7. Chrono Trigger also has those as do both Persona 5 and Nier Automata from last year.
That whole conversation about the game music was hilarious
I can remember the Dark Knight Trilogy theme. Thing is, it’s really only around when Batman is there and as a result it’s not there constantly because the villains basically have their own music melodies that play whenever they’re around.
Jared Wignall me too...The Dark
Knight theme is awesome!
LOL "reminds me of elvis" Mike's expression to the camera is so priceless. MFM is one of the realest SOBs online
I hacked my snes mini, it's decent and Death and Return of Superman runs 100%.
Everything runs 100%, if you know how to use hackchi right.
Nintendo aside. Most Iconic theme music of the last couple decades for a video game has to be Mass Effect.
I still remember the chills I got when that crescendo hits just as you read "The civilizations of the galaxy call it... The MASS EFFECT" And bam the music peaks and its too perfect.
The other great example on the top of my head is "I'm still alive" in portal, but that's not really a theme song.
Naw
The Last of Us theme though
Any time I see their notifications, I tell everyone I'm taking my break so I can watch. Earlier I did that....no video. Went back to work and bam! Another notification. Had to use the old "I have to take a dump" excuse to watch at least 10 or 15 mins of the video.
Hey James and Mike. Doomsday was a creation by a scientist who wanted to create something to kill all the dangerous beasts on Krypton long ago. So through science he created a super powered baby that he would then abandon on an extremely dangerous alien homeworkld. The child would die from exposure to the elements at first, to ravenous packs of alien beasts that would rip Doomsday apart. Each time the scientist would recollect the DNA and recreate Doomsday. Each death Doomsday would get stronger and he grew up eventually. Along the way, he developed regenerative powers to bring himself back from death.
He ended up killing the scientist and wandering around space terrorizing civilizations. One of those civilizations actually killed Doomsday, and wrapped him in the green clothes and cables as part of a funerary to jettison him into space but hopefully unable to unwind himself.
Interesting note, Doomsday met Darkseid when Darkseid was younger and Doomsday even survived a direct hit from Darkseids Omega Beam.
Anyways, loved this vid. Not a fan of Superman but I do love Doomsday(who during the Marvel and DC Amalgam was merged with Dr.Doom to become...Doctor Doomsday!). I loathe Batman for the same reason Black Panther is mostly garbage. They lack any actually negative characteristics, mostly NO but they have tried it a bit wi 8th Batman. Love Bats rogue gallery though.
Anywho enough rambling but Yo, Mike...you and James need to check out Dragons Crown on PS4. It was done by some of the peeps who made the D&D arcade beaten ups. It's a spiritual successor that adds new elements to the beaten up genre.
It's also co-op same screen.
I like how it takes Mike like a minute to figure out the moves and James probably played it for an hour without figuring anything out
This game and Justice League: Task Force were both made by Blizzard Entertainment. (Before they were Blizzard)
Never played the snes version, I've always loved the genesis version. The music is different and gives it a more darker feel.
That signature Genesis sound. Venom & Spider-Man Separation Anxiety game was the same way, better sounding than the SNES version.
Truth. Of corse all beat em ups were better on Genesis.. these guys still haven't figured that out though. I still listen to the soundtrack from this one from time to time.
Yep. Now I'm just waiting for the playthrough by MF Mike.
It is a big problem with Superman games in general. Nothing you fight (except Doomsday) should really be able to hurt you at all.
I like that in the LEGO games, when you play as Superman, you're actually invincible. Because you're SUPERMAN. Nothing can hurt you.
What do you _mean,_ the Hans Zimmer music isn't memorable? The Dark Knight theme is _extremely_ iconic. It gets stuck in my head all the time! *Dun, DUN, DUN! DUN-DUN-DUN!*
Perhaps it's not surprising, but James is heavily beholden to nostalgia, even for theme tunes in older films. I don't mind that he prefers the older versions, but to pretend that they are sacrosanct and definitive is rediculous.
The chase theme IMMEDIATELY came to my mind.
TO. BE. FAIR... While the "Molossus" theme from Hans Zimmer is usually the most associated with those movies, it's not really "Batman's theme". It's more like the "action theme" of the films.
O god dark knight is so over rated it really wasn't that great had that drug addict not died it wouldn't be held up like it is not even close just like nirvana they were ok had kurt not died no one would give a shit
@@BoogiepopFearGhoul Idunno, I just listened to it and the "Molossus" theme and it sounds pretty generic. One thing I'll give the "Molossus" theme is it does have somewhat of a melody to it, in comparison to a lot of other orchestral songs that don't. But then I listened to the '89 Batman theme, and wow, it's better, and I'm not beholden to nostalgia as I don't think I've watched that one. Or if I did I don't remember. I just watched The Dark Knight and it was definitely entertaining, but not one of the best movies ever. But still entertaining.
Beverly Hills Cop's theme is another memorable one.
12:00 What is Mike talking about? Splatoon's music is super memorable! It has a very distinct music style! Maybe you can argue it doesn't have ONE main theme, but it has many cool tracks.
KrossoverGod Splatoon has the Squid Sisters. So more than one memorable soundtrack!
That's another case of me being able to hear the music, but not able to sing it. But that makes sense considering how long we've had to listen to the SMB theme in comparison!
@@isetmfriendsofire
come on you just go:
"weeno weeno wano-waoo,
weeno weeno wano-waoo,
weeno weeno wano-wa waoooo!"
@@isetmfriendsofire
either way yeah, the SMB theme is like the one most popular video game song in existance, so it's an unfair comparison.
"Oh, I'm so confused." Welcome to comics, Mike. Endless exciting, endlessly overcomplicated.
The batman theme from the nolan movies is great
37:48 "It's all a goddamn bologna sammich James, lemme tell ya."
I was one of those that purchased the paperback "Death of Superman" so I feel this Big Time. It was a fuck-ton of bullshit,
A lot of Rambeaus in this game
Superman... I'm coming to get you!
He didn't die, he went into a 'HeAlInG cOmA.'
You can tell when Mike starts getting frustrated with James' lack of common knowledge when he starts scratching his head and fidgeting
This story arc is where James got the part in his Superman 64 Returns video where he sees all the clones of him when he walks back in his room from.
This game is missing something, I think it needs a level where you fly through some rings
Very time appropriate w/ the Death of Superman movie & upcoming Reign of the Supermen. Also Sinestro Corp Cyborg Superman!
I wish they'd review the DCAMU films, there's only about 10 at this point, not counting Flashpoint Paradox that leads into it
Mike looking into the camera with the Elvis theory hahaha
I love Hans Zimmer's Dark Knight trilogy scores.
The Death and Return of the The Death and Return of Superman video, inspired by the The Death and Return of Superman comic event.
The way in which Superman returns is not so complicated, though. It's all the stuff around it that makes it so complicated.
The main splatoon theme is pretty damn iconic.
and ARMS!
I played this game over 20 years ago and completely forgot it about. I consider myself a HUGE Supes fan too, so I suck.
Danny Elfman brought back the original themes for Justice League which is one of the only really good things about the movie
Ma20102 posted this same thing, lol.
It's one of the few good themes in the movie
I like that he brought in both the Man of Steel theme, John Williams's Superman Theme, Batman's theme from BvS, his own march from Batman and Batman Returns, and overhauled BOTH Wonder Woman themes. But I think he might also have not been able to really stretch as much with the other JL characters' themes, which is always sad.
For like all 5-9 seconds of it if you're listening close enough. But it was kinda awesome to hear it again after all this time, in a modern DC superhero film nonetheless.
Itd be nice for DC to embrace that side of their characters a little more. After all Justice League should have just been an ass-kicking nostalgia fest. At least those are the moments that worked the best. And frost breath.
@Cinemassacre (at Mike to be more specific)
About the "Soul of Superman" thingy, it's just an afterbody experience to be honest, his body was just "regenerating" after his fight with Doomsday, in the end the process just ended, and that's why he was able to come back.
Okay Mike.. Do Your Duty. BEAT THIS CHEESE FEST OF A GAME!
I honestly feel that the Danny Elfman Batman score is way more iconic than the original 60s tune. The 60s song felt more like a marketing thing where the Elfman score really captures The Dark Knight aesthetic
Hopefully Rocksteady makes their Superman game as good as the Arkham series.
Web Head marvel fanboy?
john lawful No I think what Web Head means that it would be vey impossible to make the Arkham gameplay mechanics work with Superman
matt ford just make a good flying mechanic
Carl Wheeler Umm that's only problem making a Superman Arkham game would had there's the combat they would had to Superman powerless like one hit death from a normal badguy to kill Superman kinda powerless to balance that out
matt ford Have him fight aliens
Guess it all comes down to how much you heard a theme. Mario games always has great and catchy themes imo.
Please do Spawn: The Video Game on Super Nintendo
You psycic bastard!
Eradicator was the sentient AI defender of The Fortress of Solitude that syohoned Superman's powers while he was healing there.
I love you James, but they were not, "simple times." OJ, Waco, Tonya Harding, Reginal Denny, Rodney King, Columbine, The Menedez Brothers, city wide Riots, TWA, Desert Storm, WWF steroid scandle, and way more... lol, ahhhh, good times.
Christopher Reeves was the best looking Superman!
Hans Zimmer's score to The Dark Knight is one of its most memorable components.
Interesting, how does it feel to be in that minority?
"It's all a gott-dang balogna sandwich, James, lemme tell ya."