If You're Studying Chopin, TRY THIS.
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"That part" is a real part in every Chopin piece.
I agree!!
So true! Very insightful video to help overcome "that part" too! Thanks Nahre Sol
@@map-reduce yes her insights are always welcome!
💧 I'll try it
I feel like Chopin included "these parts" as a challenge pianists have to overcome in order to be allowed to play his beautiful melodies.
I think I’m starting to realise that “getting better” isn’t about learning more difficult pieces, it’s about building and improving specific skills that will make those difficult pieces easier to learn. Thank you for another great video! 💧
Great comment actually, I totally agree!
Yes! Exactly. You put that into words nicely.
100%. I watch Annique on Heart of the Keys and she learns things in 10 minutes what I couldnt learn in a week. I think getting better is definitely about building tools that make things easier to learn. The practical side of playing the piano isn't the most important thing.
But don't you learn those skills, by learning them in pieces ?
@@SqueezieClips Sometimes, yes! And you can argue that is what Etudes are after all...
Very interesting video ! My professor always told me to transpose difficult passages in all 12 keys, as this is such a difficult exercise that you'll find the passage in the original key to be trivial. Thank you for showing this to the world :)
Thank you so much!!
...and you didn't get tendinitis from this? That's ridiculous, bro. You're learning ONE PIECE in ONE KEY for performance. You're not trying to transpose for a singer or play a jazz solo on this. Why would your professor tell you something so stupid?
@@J3unG It’s an exercise to improve the execution of a certain passage, I don’t know what you don’t understand.
@@J3unG I always consider what accomplished experts have to say. Nahre and probably René's professors are far more accomplished than me. If they say isolating a difficult passage/phrase and transposing to all keys helps them, I will consider trying it.
@@J3unG if if works it's not stupid
💧 as a fellow CZcamsr I almost feel guilty watching your videos for free
Hi musicalbasics
Yeah. They are like master classes that should be on Skillshare or something.
Nahre, you are creating something no other piano teacher is able to articulate here on your CZcams channel. A learning technique that really bridges the gap between performer and composer
Hi ! Have you seen Hearth of the keys? Also an amazing content
Amen! Not only is she phenomenal at both, she's phenomenal at teaching. I would pay for these videos.
I wish I'd had you as a teacher when I was learning this Nocturne at college! Such a great way to learn tricky sections.
Thank you so much!!
I wish that too 😂🥲
I've literally just started back up with re-learning piano, and I come across this - just wanted to say thank you, really needed this right now.
Thank you! So happy to read this!!
Many Chopin runs have this perfect "falling down the stairs" vibe.
I just turned 15 and got a book of all of Chopins Etudes so this video was really well timed.
Oh sweet!! And happy belated birthday :)))
@@NahreSol Thank You.
06 gang wya
@@jwaj what?
Great time to start with them! 👍 hope you will have lots of fun :)
Thank you so much for this. I always get so inspired when watching your videos.💧
:D When True Cuckoo watches the same vids as you :D
I literally brute-force learning pieces playing mostly start to finish, and I KNOW it’s awful. This was the sign (and structured process with amazing examples) I needed. Thank you 🙏
Hello! I'm a jazz musician, kinda, and I'd like to say: First, your voicing on the CM7 is totally legit and no one is laughing at you :) Second, Chopin has always been way beyond me, but I'm very excited to try this technique on bebop heads like Ornithology and Donna Lee that have also always been mostly beyond me. Thank you!
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BTW, the grace note technique is really similar to a blues piano technique I use all the time. So, maybe Chopin isn't out of reach?
...Pretty sure it's still out of reach :D
I’m also a jazz musician and applied Nahre’s ideas to Donna Lee and other Bebop heads.
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The timing of this video is absolutely insane... I just picked up a Chopin piece and got to "that part." Thanks for an amazing and informative video as always! =)
After sixteen years away from the piano, I started practicing again six months ago. In addition to relearning selected pieces I used to play, I decided to learn six Mozart sonatas simultaneously for "exercise". In doing so, without any premeditation, but just "automatically," I recognized many similar patterns in different sonatas, making them easier to learn faster all together than to learn them one by one. After playing only Mozart for a few days, I return to the Beethoven, Brahms, Schubert, snd Mendelssohn pieces I was practicing, and I find myself playing them much better than before after the Mozart "exercise".
I think these exercises would be repetitive enough to be able to do them while focusing on keeping my hands relaxed as well. I have a massive tension problem at the piano.
I'm also interested in what you said about getting into Chopin's brain. One of the things I noticed is that I have so much more trouble doing flashy things in other people's music, but when I write or arrange something myself, suddenly I can do things that I'd never dream of doing if I were reading other people's dots. (I still have tension problems, but I can DO them at least, and it takes longer for my hands to start aching.) I think understanding what you're doing -- why the composer chose those notes -- allows your head to "chunk" what's going on and increases your comfort with the material.
Thank you so much!!
This is what I did every single time. Not only in Chopin's music. But almost all composers. Analyzing the scores will help you a lot. I'm not read all the notes on the scores. I never do that. Instead, I read the pattern and analyzing. They are very simple. None of them are complicated. Even Winter Wind. It looks like a monster. But it just a simple pattern repeated, transposed. And then, I make my own exercises for a several passages. Remember what Chopin said "Simplicity is the highest goal, achievable when you have overcome all difficulties."
And yes, all the Chopin's music has a very simple pattern. The issue is not about the notes, but the technique.
This way of practicing piano will not only benefit piano playing skill but will also benefit composition skill!
I can borrow many composition materials from many masterpieces in this way.
Thank you again for providing me a brand new perspective to practice piano!!
Yes, also your improvisational skills and you ear developes
Great way of working out a practice. I will apply that to my (guitar) playing :) 💧
This is fantastic .. 100% on analysis as a key to really understanding how the piece is structured. I have students who resist this as they "just want to play", but when they have that lightbulb moment where they realise how much it helps them "just play" its so rewarding to see their progress accelerate as a result. Great video Nahre. 💧
I haven't played classical piano in years, and was just given Brubeck's Blue Rondo á la Turk! I'll try this exercise and see if I can get my mind and fingers around it. Thanks! 💧
I can't tell you how much I love this video. Not only was it encouraging to see that even you (who are so incredibly advanced) have trouble learning pieces (at least in the beginning), but it was insightful learning your methods of practicing and memorizing. Thanks a lot!!! 💧
These videos are so resourceful to me. Even though I'm a classical guitarist, I can still easily apply these towards Chopin's works on the guitar/lute. Thank you so much, Nahre !
@Nahre Sol, You’re so damn impressive. I deeply, deeply appreciate the way you break down your process. Following you the past few years has been a massive inspiration. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I love this systematic approach to learning difficult material. Going from basic and mindless repetition and instead applying the structure or concept to a musical sequence makes practicing so much more enjoyable. Thank you! 💧
Excellent! As I’m sure others have said: we can certainly find applications of these ideas regardless of what piece of music, instrument, or genre we are studying. Thanks for this fabulous and insightful video.
Honestly -- I love your way of treating music and displaying such love for details, and breaking out of conventions. Fun to watch, fun to follow, fun to listen... 😊😉😎
This is so like cadenza singers have in operas all the time. The strategy is the same for practicing even thought the voice reacts a little different within the registers if you put it in the cycle of fifths but still super useful, i’d say quite necessary. Great explanation!
Nahre, you are wonderful. I just recently got back into practicing piano and my studies brought me to Chopin's preludes. Your content is so easy to digest and entertaining, not to mention inspiring. Thank you thank you thank you!
honored to stand on the shoulders of musicians like you who have helped to pave the way. brilliant work as always 💧
She is a genius. So helpful.
Much appreciated... thank you for the comment!
I absolutely love that you teach so patiently, interactively, and visually. I have little idea of how to read notes, but my goal this year is to expand my skills outside of playing by ear to learn more pieces. Many blessings to you :)
You are amazing! Your ability to analyze phrases is wonderful, but your fingers move freely at high speed, and her effort and training are amazing!
💧Its so important to have strategies for practicing that move beyond simply "playing it again." I'm showing videos like this to my son, who is starting violin at 9, just to show him that it's OK to be frustrated or need to change the way you practice. Thanks!
Already love it😍
Thank you so much!!
Awesome tutorial. I've been delaying learning the Nocturne you played (beautifully) in this video because that run and the left hand scared me off. This video is a great encouragement. Thank you.
Beautifully articulated and taught! There are many tutorials for rote memorization but you bring the crucial compositional element of creativity into your teaching. Not only are your methods clear and practical, you combine concepts that cement skills in a way far more broadly useful than just by repetitive practice and exercise multiple skills at a time. Massively helpful, especially when looking to be time efficient! Thank you as always for sharing.
💧thank you for making so much wonderful content free to the public! You re helping countless musicians
This answered my prayers🙌
Thank you!!
You are by far the best piano teacher for the intermediate to the advanced on youtube. Thank you for all of your free (!) lessons
Such a helpful, sensible and clear video. You explain so well why it's worthwhile transposing, which pupils are often unwilling to do because they're not used to it. You constantly demonstrate something I don't think you actually say: always play beautifully and musically! I don't know how to send the 'emoji' but I watched through to the end with the greatest interest.
I also told my students to take some AIR when practising my pieces.
Haha... !
You really explain music in very nice way, Nahre Ma'am. 👍👍👍👍💐💐💐💐🙏
Thank you very much!!
Thank you for sharing such a golden approach!
And also illustrating it so beautifully with your performance :)
As a mostly jazz musician it speaks a lot to me, and motivates to dive deeper into classical music.
Quite daunting and exciting! 💧
Got pumped for Chopin rn. Thank you Nahre, your channel is so inspiring to me, I cannot even believe this quality content exists on CZcams
me, about to start daily practice of chopin etude and getting the notification: well this was weird
It's a sign.... jk :)) Hope the practicing is going well!
@@NahreSol ahahah thanks, im really struggling with reading op 10 no 4 and this seems really helpful
Well it's going to take me a long time to catch up to where you're at... I'm a beginner compared to your skill level, I love Chopin's music and want to learn a few pieces, but I feel like I'm 💧 drowning in the complexity, thanks for posting... it gives me an idea where to start. (See what I did there with the 💧 you requested?)
Thank you so much!! 💧💧💧💧
@AuPastello Appreciate the sympathy, thanks! But I expect and welcome the struggle, just have to take a lot of coffee breaks and have patience. One day I hope to master a piece or two, but in my case the audience is just family and friends, I'm not planning on being a stage performer, I just want to have fun and perform some good music. Cheers!
@@NahreSol Thanks so much for posting, It gives me encouragement...I still haven't got very far in Rick Beato's music theory classes... (He's the reason I'm here on your channel) but I have a full time job that demands my attention... but that's just slowing me down, I still want to learn how to play. I've had piano lessons decades ago, I'm having to relearn how to read sheet music, I suck at timing and... Grrrr... the whole thing sometimes is just a hot mess! LOL But I'll keep chipping away at it, bit by bit.
Ack! You explain things in such an amazing way that makes me feel like I can achieve anything! I love your content so much!
Thank you for the invaluable information, which I can apply to my piano practice. I play for fun, (I'm retired) with not much music theory, but I work hard on piano pieces that I love.
Well presented, a joy to watch! 💧Your videos and exercises are always useful - even though I’m not a pianist, I find the principles can be applied to other instruments and contexts as well.
Wow, this makes sense! Thank you so much for sharing your insight, I feel any music theory training and my technique training converging and a whole world of possibilities opening up! 💧
Thank you very much! This video is very inspiring. Never thought can practise in this way. Will definitely try ❤️💧
You're amazing, Nahre! So clear and well presented. I'm showing this to my students! 💧
💧 I will surely adapt this method of learning more complex pieces. Thank youuu soo much
You are a true professional in both classical and jazz music. 😊 😊 It's very good learning jazz and classical,ut helps you discover more about piano😁❤️
I hit like button at exactly the first 15 seconds! This video is just a true essential lesson I need right now. I feel your videos is worth watching in every second.
You are such a great teacher! This is kind of promising future in music education. Always wondering the high quality in content and editing of your videos. Very inspiring 💧
Thank you! Working on new performance pieces, and this gives me a lot of good things to think about and practice with.💧
Beautiful video and inspiring lessons, I would love you to do more videos like this where you come up with original exercises from passages from the literature. Your a genius, thank you.
Love this!!! Thanks to you, I am extremely experimental with my practicing!
I don't play piano, but I love the knowledge you share about the piano, practicing, and how you analyze pieces. Thank you! 💧
💧! Even after practising for the last three or so years of my childhood, your technical ability amazes me. Fantastic playing and very useful techniques.
Im so happy you put in all that effort video editing regardless of your view count!!
I use this same method when working in rhythm sections that are troubling. Having to know quite a bit of music on the fly its been very useful to Divide and Conquer in this Analysis way. I like the acronym too, thanks for the video!
Oh my god i LOVE the way you play the piano! sounds beautiful
Tks Nahre! I started to study piano after '40s and your tips are amazingly good!!! It's much funnier and efficient to study in this way. And sounds really good, your dog is a lucky guy!!!💧
Love this and can’t wait to try it! These ideas really ignite a new excitement for practicing! 💧
That's so much better than rhythms or something! Back in college 40 years ago I went through a stage where I would practice rhythms and just start thinking about something else. It's easy to see why. While I never got to the point where all the transposing and rearranging would be easy, at least I can see it would hold your attention. It's one of the few suggestions about "ways to practice" (besides slow) that seems like it would be useful.
You have a beautiful brain. I love this dissection and how you find great solutions while deepening one's understanding of piece/instrument. Thank you for your insight 🙏
You are incredible! So talented! Such passion and comittement in helping others and teaching. Thank you so much! Grertings from Argentina.
Thank you for these amazing insights on how do practice certain musical passages. I do a lot of transposing using the clefts. The mental flexibility one gains from doing this and the technical skill one acquires playing these passages. It's a sense of musical freedom.
I think you meant *clefs, related to French for key.
WOOOO! I love your videos! The production makes everything so clear! Thank you for all the work you put into this channel!
I love the video production lately! It's always been good but now it's on a new level! 💧
💧 This is so inspiring! Can’t wait to try this on the classical guitar with Capricho Árabe. It has many runs which would work great with this approach.
Absolutely beautiful playing, well done! I’m starting to learn the piano and just yesterday I was practicing the same section of a song I love and got bored after a while… This tip came at the perfect time! Thank you very much, longtime fan of you and your videos! 💧
The modified Chopin etude exercises are so cool. The Op. 10 No. 1 is really pretty 💧
Nahre is just on a different level man...keep it up, love it!!
Nahre Sol, your channel has helped to inspire the vision I have for developing my channel. Thank you!
Thank you! I love these practice tips!! You are amazing.
The best part of theses exercises is that's working for every instruments! 😳 these famous "parts" in Chopin pieces are really challenging me with the violin, as mostly self taught I'm glad to find a strong build method to get through what make the charm of Chopin style (in my opinion)
Love the visualizations!
I love the idea of getting into the brain of a composer! Breaking it down like this 💧makes these sections seem so playful when I used to see them as inaccessible. S teir playing!
Thank you so much this is very helpful and I am rushing to go apply it right now!
💧Heh this reminded me to go practice the raindrop prelude. Thanks
This video is great and I especially like the editing it was really nice, not that there is anything wrong with others, but I just liked how you edited this one. Great job :D
Call me sexist, sue me, curse me, but the dress, the hairstyle, the friendliness, the professionalism create a very sensual image in this vid especially. And the superb content. For a beginner at 46 seems relevant and inspiring though i KNOW that i will never ever get anywhere near such level. Thanx for sharing.
My band teacher in middle school taught us a similar technique. This process is one of the best. Thanks for the great video!
Thank you so much!!
God this makes so much more sense to me, I'm forever thankful for this resource! Great share.
You're as brilliant as ever Nahre, keep up the great work!
I'll be doing this for the next couple of hours for sure haha.
Edit: I definitely got to the end 💧 haha
A very well deserved💧!
Your videos are great, Nahre!! Thank you so much for them and keep going this great work!!
This is amazing. I can’t wait to try out these new techniques! Thank you!💧
💧 this was very enlightening, thank you for this! Love your videos.
Your videos are FANTASTIC and are really helping me learn differently the pieces! Thank you!
Amazing. I wish I learned piano when I was younger. I still have a lot to learn after 3 years of self taught one hour a day practice. So most of what you said are beyond me for the time being but I must say you are the best and most skilful piano teacher I have come across on CZcams.
Part of the holy grail of tips and tricks. So so very helpful!
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Such a brilliant video, thank you Nahre
Merci beauboup for this. I'm still at a beginner method book level but am intrigued at how to go beyond that.
Love your insights to the world of music and mentoring for performing that helps any kind of musician!
Ya know... Yuja is phenomenal, obviously... that being said, I think you are a better pianist. You're so darn creative, know the ins and out of everything I've seen from you, and on a personal note - have the best insight and mentorship I've ever seen in a pianist.
Thank you! This video was very useful to me (as to someone who is currently stumbled over a few such passages).💧
This is great. I enjoyed this a lot. Thank you for making this video.
Absolutely brilliant explanation. Shows mastery over your craft both from technical and artistic point of view.