Cayenne Turbo vs ML63 AMG - Fifth Gear
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2014
- Tiff decides to put the Porsche Cayenne Turbo to the test against Mercedes ML63 AMG, with the help of three time Rally Champion and Skyfall stunt driver Mark Higgins!
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5:03 that drift though
That when I fully saw that he knows rally. I just broke out laughing.
Aw, man, me too
who said SUVs cant drift, that was poetry right there. i wouldn't try that with any other SUV though.
However
JPabloCN what about it
5:00 DID I JUST SEE AN SUV DRIFTING???
hahahahahahaha
Porsche...
Oh yeah😂😂😂
I thought it would rollover for sure
naaaaaah, you saw a porshe drifting
The poise that the Porsche showed at 5:32, when the back end came snapping back around, and the Cayenne just straightened out like it was on a rail. That was so impressive, I had to watch it a few times in a row. That's a well tuned suspension.
I agree. It has great tuned air suspension and 3 suspension modes. Comfort, regular, and sport mode.
It looked a bit wobbly
no@@zachaphina3140
Drive that ML63 on the road like that and you'll be glad of all that electronic safety system!
We finally know which is the better SUV on a track. What a relief. Now, what is the best super car in off-road ??
ML is, just not AMG version, but normal ML with the off-road package.
dacia sandero
who nyse one of these cars for off road comm on
Hilarious sir, hysterically funny indeed! Cant wait to see a Lambo vs Ferrari in a "mud battle"...lol
I understood your sarcasm but to be honest, neither of these "SUV's" are ever going to be taken anywhere but Rodeo Drive and back home lol. These are not vehicles that are ever going to see the mud anyway.
German cars rule
yup
sadwalk except vw golfs
Yeah its wild how superior they are to everything in their class. People who honestly pitch the notion of a Toyota being better make me laugh.
Nah. German cars are boring. American and Italian are cooler.
German science is the best in the world!!
Calm down people. This was meant to be more fun than factual. That lap with the ML was hilarious with the seatbelts strangling them. Safety is always a priority but with all this crap on cars nowadays it takes away from them a bit.
I like this Tiff guy. He's proven himself to be quite entertaining and a great driver!
Great test, because as we all know, SUV drivers are more concerned with track performance than luxury or practicality.
Im guessing you are being sarcastic but I know a few people who expect their suv's to perform like a track car whenever they want to. This demand is becoming more noticeable with the newest cars coming out for example Acura suvs and now an electric mustang suv. Im not a fan of suv's but Im interested to see what these manufacturers can come up with.
@@powershoteight3483 If you want a family car that performs like a track car, get a high-performance wagon.
@@powershoteight3483 exactly, few people expect that.
Somehow seeing a SUV going sideways is quite amazing
The porsche ceramic brake made all the difference, even the track race because the driver could brake later than he could with the Amg also offers a ceramic brake optional extra should've included that in the merc to get a more accurate comparison. and I'm sure the merc would've one all these tests if they included that optional extra
The Merc would have one nothing
Even with the Ceramic Brake option, the Mercedes wouldn’t stand a chance.
It’s a got a great engine, but the rest of the car in terms of driving dynamics is rubbish!
Question.wheres the gear in this suv? I mean how do u shift it to different modes eg.Drive reverse neutral
That Porsche drift was just stupid cool...SO WELL done.
That drift..... dayyyuuummm
You can go into option menu and turn off the seat belt feature in a 2012 its in the cluster menu.
"...get in!" Hilarious!
Well done lads for being (now) the only truly PROPER British car show left.
More content... with less ego 🚘
the title is wrong is not an ML65 its a ML63
Two very good cars, both similar in many ways and both different in many ways. These are my top two 4x4's. Forget your x5's and range rooneys.
I would have the AMG
You can clearly tell, that they started breaking at the same time. But that makes no sense, because the merc was much faster to 100 mph. So its really dump that the Porsche started to break 10 meters behind the Merc. I doubt that the Porsche even reached 100 mph when he started braking.
That side on Porsche was so awesome 😲😲😲
Curious if you had a tuned ml63 with all the electronics shut off how much better that time would be
5:03 That drift though!
It's hard for me to even place the Mercedes in the same category as the Porsche. The drive and look of the Cayenne screams "pure sports car on stilts".
but don't forget the Porsche was driven by a much better pro rally racer
Higgins is very good. But do you think Tiff is like your grandfather? He is old but he was a professional racer who even raced in F1 a few times.
They were both driven by pro racers. Porsche is just a better car.
Johnny Wrong because of 1 second faster lap time?
Cars should be driven by impartial person, so it will be fair. Porsche had ceramic brakes aswell, it is just a TV-show not a reality.
Ara J In second test it was just 1 second difference, but they have much more fun driving Porsche.
that drift at the 5 minute mark was beautiful
Good review, the Gas is premium I suppose. Did you have any issues with the air suspension? Lots of comments about it.
Late to the party but that was an awesome drift with the Porsche!
we all know that carbon ceramic brakes don't help stopping distance on one stop but multiple stops.
Sir plz make video on Mercedes-Benz gls 63 amg
You can disable to auto tensioner features of the seat belts and FULLY turn off all safety features on the ML. I am a Mercedes-Benz Tech so the info on how to do it is available to me. They should have gotten someone to do it for them. And no, you do not need any special equipment. You just need to know how to put the vehicle into dyno mode through the instrument cluster using the steering wheel buttons... Point is, they compared apples to oranges during this test.
Deafeats the purpose when an ordinary person can't just press a button, right? Irrelevant if you can disable it by tricking the system in to thinking it's somewhere it's not.
An "Ordinary" person can do it. Ordinary people reset their maintenance/service due lights all the time, correct? Well, dyno mode is in that same exact menu. The information is just easier attainable for me than most others. By no means is it impossible for people to get. I personally don't give out the instructions for safety reasons. People can do some stupid shit with the vehicle in dyno mode. If they happen to come across the instructions on how to do it, then so be it. I feel comfortable knowing it wasn't me giving that information out there. As far as the seat belt auto tensioners go, how to disable them is in the Owners Manual... I apologize as I don't follow the "tricking the system into thinking it's somewhere it's not" part. What is that in reference to?
MBTech Im a Technician for Dodge and can 100 percent agree with you on this. In or Hellcat and Demons there are pretty obvious buttons if you're trying to enter a certain mode. If you are "ordinary" then keep your damn hands away from even turning it into its full potential. You would think if they were going to test this beast they would have read into it more. I would love to work for MB.
In your opinion, would the ml be a better and faster car around the track if able to fix these issues?
This. Yes - the Merc would hammer this around the track if they knew what they were doing
He drove the ml without even using those pedals once , the downshift and up shift generates insane power on demand
6.15 perfect drift, bravo for Mark H.
I can't turn them more offer - words of wisdom
What year was this Cayenne Turbo?, I prefer this body type to the old kind.
rally I'm love the two
WOW THAT DRIFT @ 5:05😍😍😍😍
And I promise not to jump in my cayenne and try to do the same thing
Do they have low range and water fording ability and good wheel articulation? If not they're just tall station wagons, why would you bother?
Damn Britts. I know it rains there a lot, but you should only use a dry track.
You have to got into dyno mode with the benz. Simple two button pressed and you enter secret menu in the display.
Exactly! Then you can drift.
How? I’d like to try it on mine
That break test was so discussed
I have both cars 957 Cayenne S and W164 ML550. Both cars are great but they have two different characters. Porsche Cayenne is a true sports SUV means it has a character of sport's cars, stock exhaust note, suspensions, tourqe, cornering, just almost everything, although I'm not too fond with the interior but I don't care I want that super SUV feels. Mercedes Benz ML is more of a big cruiser, more of of cruising SUV, and have better interior.
The thing about AMG SUVs is that they aren't meant to go around a track, but off road. That is how the chassis of the ML and GL are built. The Porsche SUVs are meant for flat out speed, sure they may be able to do some off roading, but not as much as the Mercs. It's not built for that purpose. Both are fantastic cars
Samuel Abraham so why put a 500-600 amg under the hood if its not specifically ment for track? 500hp is over kill for off roading dont you think
Proverbs 16:4 KJV Sure maybe it is, but I'm not complaining that it has more than enough power. They pretty much took the engines from the S63 and E63, and dropped in the SUVs. They probably didn't feel the need to change too much to the engines, as they have all. Plus, what's wrong with overkill? The new Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk has 700hp, which makes these seem like nothing haha. AMG is not just about speed with the SUVs, it's more about effortless power and torque.
Then you've never been on real off-roading. Would like to see you in 300hp suv doing off-roading in Czech Republic. Here we literally go so much uphill you feel like you're taking off and having 2+ tons car without ,,overkill amount of power,, you're just gonna slide down.
A Muhovic Never said other SUVs can't go off road lol. I was saying that AMG SUVs just give you the luxury of power for whenever you need it. As do the BMW M SUVs, and Porsche SUVs
New porsche cayenne fir 2019 also designed for off-roading now
Maybe cayenne turbo S vs ml63 amg
I have a Cayenne Turbo S I love it off the showroom floor 550 horsepower I have it tweet to 620 horsepower unbelievable straight pipe loud fast and beautiful
Can you guys do it again and add in the BMW X5M and the Audi SQ5, please?
*Audi Q7 V12 you can't compare SQ5 with X5M and AMG haha
Yah thex5m wud crush the Audi
Aaaah .....dats gr8t
In the description it says m65 which I doubt exists
how on earth is this a comparative assessment when they dont use the same driver.... very poor comparison by fifth gear presenters. try again using the same deiver and an acutal laptime not ur iphone....
This comparison seemed to be for someone who would actually drive one of these vehicles; not a scientific test.
Thats something that annoys me with my Merc you turn the ESC off and it still cuts in ,when i say off i want it OFFF !!!
Put your car in "dyno mode", that turns everything off.
But you don't have a Merc.
Which year is the CAYENNE?
Nice
On a wet track!!! These guys have ballz!!!!
What a drift maan
what is this cars gone wild starring steve erwin lmao!!!!
Yeah because you buy an SUV to go around a track...
It seems like the ML63 was the safer car to drive and it was only a second slower with the safety measures on and a driver which was not a professional.
(In contrast to the cayenne)
If i had to choose i would still go for the Cayenne as a "family car".
Baldur M. Tiff the non professional ex F1 driver? :/
And he is comparing ml 63 am with a turbo rather than doing it with a turbo s
Smooth
Great and we need and wish videos in Real Best 4K 60fps HDR10+ resolution clarity quality and Sound in full HD 3D Stereo Surround , Soon Please,
5:03 wow that drift 😍😍😍😍
Holy f... I didn't even know suvs Can do that..... What in God's name....
Too bad by the time I can buy one, gas cars won't be relevant
This isn't a very good review in my opinion. Yeah they talk about the performance of the two but realistically speaking having looked at both of these SUVs to own myself, I will say for the money the Mercedes is hands down the better of the two. To find a Turbo S equally appointed with the standard options of the M63 is rare. You're looking at easily over $140k. $3900 for a moonroof Porsche!? Really!? And it's not even panoramic... Dollar for dollar the M63, performance wise, the Cayenne will do better on the track but not significantly which I find irrelevant because that's the last place you'll find either of these two.
After your test drives please let us know what you purchased. A year ago I had to decide on the Audi Q7, BMW X6, or Porsche Cayanne S. All vehicles were great but had to choose one. I chose the Porsche because it is a great all purpose vehicle and it's a treat to drive, never boring! :)
I AGREE WITH YOU A 100%
Dezz D Those are all great choices and in NO WAY am I knocking the Porsche. I love the Cayenne Turbo, my problem is I'm 6'5 and athletic. The Cayenne, especially the newest ones, are a tight fit so I lean more towards the spacious ML63. This review is ridiculous, they are scolding the ML for it's safety features on the track. Keep in mind the history of this SUV is a family shuttle with mild to moderate off-road capability. The Porsche comes from a family of sports cars and roadsters. They tried to highlight the Porsche's stopping power, but just lightly mentioned the nearly $6,000.00 brake package you'd have to buy to get it. After review of both of these, I went with the ML63 - Genuinely happy with my purchase :-)
That's more than fair. :)
Jermaine Derrick k
Old old guy is quite alright I'd say
Oh yea! Tiff is phenomenal! Also love Sabine Schmidt!!
cayenne is sport suv, ML is not but ML is way better car
+Mario Darnadi
Why?
Cayenne is a very luxurius car, with proper characteristics for sports car.
You see when you say 'esp off' you mean it, whilste on the merc you don't have freedom.
An AMG is supposed to be a sport car too and behave like one in a track!
ml is big squarey and the interior is pure uglyness
the guy :D uglyness ? :D :D :D :D :D :D idiot
+Mario Darnadi if you love plastic and hard rubber. go for the Ml. your choice. knobhead
Yes, becouse they have only one option...
real good vds by 5th gear
Good boy.
For CDs vineyard in the class that even type properly
Did they turn on Dyno mode on Mercedes ML ? Turning off with ESP button does not mean all of traction/stability control will be turned off !!!
the porsche looked so good doing this but im still getting the ml63 it looks and sounds better.
Nahhh the merc looks like a box on wheels. Porsche all the way!
Common sense, carbon ceramic brakes doesn’t help the stoping distance. The difference between it and the normal brake is the consistency of the stopping distance
Can't wait for F15 BMW X5 M.
Only if it had an e70 body. F15 has an ugly ass
For the 1st test it doesn't really make any sense because the Porsche was far behind the Merc when it started braking!! Not because he cheated but because it was slowest to 100 miles per hour!!!
the bit where he drove into the grass is not the cars fault I think that you forgot that its a 4 wheel drive
Where's the X5M?
For lap time comparison it has should been the SAME driver - dont you know that???
should have X6 M sport and range rover sport, the are interesting cars
i am looking forward to seeing these two plus bmw's entry plus a trackhawk jeep go at it for all the performance suv biscuits....
maybe next year😢
throw a range in it too..
bro in the ml63 forgot to change the downshift back to normal
5:02 BEAUTIFUL!
Только Порше, только турбо ) или турбо эс 👍
1 second apart and they say they were world apart, not even considering the different drivers. They better not talk.
Since when there is an ML65
Whats the need to hide "The north Face" logo ????
I am not so much pessimistic, but ML63 AMG I will never get, maybe that model I can get when I am 85 years old.
I still don't understand why every comparison video uses the Porsche turbo and not the turbo "s". That's the comparable version from Porsche
ML63 it's good in snow too. The cayenne sucks in snow I own both.
Sure wish they made an ML65 haha
I don't get it. Plz explain
chillinxxpaki69 65 is a v12 version whereas 63 is v8
Really? Why would you want more weight and less acceleration? Because that what you get with a 65, as opposed to a 63.
I love my 500 horsepower Porsche Cayenne Turbo. Iti is the most fun SUV to drive.
Same 👍😝
And on the road where people will actually drive these cars?
AMG 😈
6:17 awesome.
I have to state the obvious here, carbon ceramic brakes vs steel brakes in that first test is irrelevant , carbon ceramics only provide better "SUSTAINED" performance, which actually makes steel brakes better for the road as many carbon ceramic brake setups don't reach optimal performance until they have some heat in them !
So, I bought one of these last year, you can completely turn the traction control off its called "Dyno Mode" stops all the silly and lets this puppy off the chain. coupled with a Eurocharged v5 tune puts down approx 650hp at the wheels. weapon of a car, I challenge 5th gear to re run this comparison again and setup the benz with "dyno mode: on.
nice drift porsche 😎
WHERE ARE BMW X5M -X6M ??
They're both worth about 10k today(2020).
man, if that ML had ceramic brakes option and Mark would have driven it, the ML would beat the helI out of the Porsche as$!
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA u r clueless! The top Porsche wasn't even used (Turbo-S) and MBZ still lost HAHAHAHAHA!
Why there’s Porsche Cayenne Turbo, when Porsche has the better sport version called Porsche Cayenne Turbo S ?!
that drift was fucking filthy. excuse my french
Well how many pro drivers out there can drive like him . so merc is still the winner here being fast and safe for the amateur drivers .
"Cant't turn then more off-er," I found that way funnier then it should have been...