The idea behind the concept of not wearing a watch to a black tie event is, that you shouldn’t have anything better to wait for than that particular event. Not wearing a watch to such an event is rather a matter of respect than a matter of look in my opinion...
Some guys here would argue that a screaming yellow gold Rolex Submariner is suitable with a tux! 🤣. I’d choose a Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Jubilee in platinum.
David Niven is clearly using a wristwatch in the picture you show us, and it looks good on him. On the other hand David Niven always looked perfect in his style. I rarely have the opportunity to go to a ceremony that deserves to use a tuxedo, but when I have to look formal and elegant I choose to use my little vintage Omega Geneve ,1969, quadrangular and in yellow and white gold. With a black strap it looks lovely and terribly dapper.
Lot of love for Reversos in the comments. I love JLC, and especially the Reverso but I worry a little bit that some models might be a little too thick.
A lot of love and rightly so! I was in Miami for Watches and Wonders last week with JLC and fell in love with the Reverso Tribute Duoface in pink gold. Would be perfect with a tux. They're quite slim. Not as slim as a VC Ultra-Fine 1955, but not many watches are!
Actually I think white gold and platinum hits it even better, but I would agree with your choices. Watches like the JLC Reverso a nice alternative to the Cartier Tank as it also evokes the Art Deco era we most closely associate with the semi-formal style of the tuxedo.
Look, it’s very simple really... a tuxedo or as the more stylish would say, Dinner Suit... must have a holster for your Walther PPK and be worn with a Rolex Submariner. 👍
An often overlooked watch that I think will be iconic, is the nomos tetra (black dial/silver case), the art decò design of suck watch is thin enough to say "you notice, if you want to notice", which is quintessentially the spirit of black tie
Nice video, being a timepiece enthusiast is enough justification to wear one with a tuxedo. That way I think it showcases more of my interest and character rather than being a disgrace to the tuxedo. I think I'd invest in a nice pocket watch if I'm someone who often attends black tie events.
Agree Brian. You can wear a watch with a Tux, I mean James Bond did(Sean Connery a Rolex Sub and Daniel Craig an Omega Aqua Terra). Not sure if I’d go dive watch but all three of the watches you recommended are fine. I’d probably add a few Breguet and Blancpain models(yellow or white gold) and believe it or not I’ve worn a Rolex Explorer and looked fine. Keep up the great videos.
Growing up in New England in the 70s, it was passed down to not wear a watch at Black Tie Events unless you were gifted it as a Groomsman by the host (inner circle) at his prior wedding and wished to acknowledge you were single to the ladies at his current functions. They tended to be engraved Cartier watches. 😉
A pocket watch is cool, but it can seem affected. A commenter mentioned once that he had a pocket watch from his grandfather, which I though was a really awesome accessory, especially for a tux! Cool watch. Cool story.
Great video, Brian!!! As soon as u mentioned u r abt to give some revommendations, the first watch that came to my mind was the Cartier Tank Solo. I ll wear a watch with a tuxedo, given a chance to attend black tie event😄😄😄😄
My wedding is coming up and I want to accessorize with a nice clean looking watch that doesn't stand out to much but is timeless looking and classy. I'm wearing a classic black tux with a black bowtie. I've been thinking about the style watch and am pretty certain I'm thinking about going with black band.
I agree with a thin watch, my first choice is 1960 Vacheron Constantin gold case with black alligator band, 2nd is Movado silver case black face. Cell phones are far more distasteful at formal events
Firstly, thank for another great video. A nice dress watch looks best, PP, VC, ALS, JLC, Cartier or even a Cellini. Just don’t like a G-Shock (or equivalent) on the wrist of a gentleman wearing a tuxedo!
The Timex Metropolitan Skyline watch is a fine choice. Thin silver case, white face, and black leather strap. It's certainly a great affordable dress watch that pairs perfectly with any black tie ensemble.
Dress watch without complication. 36~39 mm. No thicker than 9 mm. White/silver/cream dial. Black leather strap. Candidates: Patek Calatrava 5227, Lange Saxonia Thin, JLC Reverso Tribute, JLC Master Ultra Thin.
In the post James Bond world I suppose it is acceptable, but only subtle per the criteria you correctly layed out. I would rather wear a Tissot that meets your criteria than a Submariner with a Tux. Any watch with a metal bracelet simple would clash a d ruin the look that the tuxedo brings.
I really disagree with gold anything with a tux. A tux is very monochromatic - B&W everything. Gold studs would look very out of place, ridiculous in fact Id go so far to say. I feel the same about the watch. Gold for a watch is passable but I strongly feel it should be silver.
You can wear tasteful watches as listed, but I do not think you should. Three main reasons: 1. Evening events are having fun events and you should not be thinking about time, you should be enjoying 2. Wristwatches are on the casual side and are in confrontation with formal nature of evening events 3. Wristwatches are staple of businesswear and as such do not belong in other settings, not only in more formal, but even in more casual setting
Brian, while I don't get to wear my tux as often as I'd like, I have found it necessary to have a watch while on a cruse. I don't wear a wrist watch, but do wear a classic pocket watch with chain on my waist coat. I found it necessary to do so because of the ships scheduling of entertainment events. any other time, NO. Nothing says more about a man than at the end of the evening who is relaxed with his Lady, jacket off, tie undone, Burbon in one hand, cigar in the other and in a comfortable chair without any of the worlds cares and concerns. hope you approve and understand.
Great video! I’m looking to add a tank Louis to my collection for such occasions Right now I use a vintage sea master from the 60’s on a black leather strap
If you must, then as you chose, a VC Ultra Fine Historique, in yellow or rose gold. A pocket watch Patrimony can work too and be more streamlined. Personally, I'd just enjoy a watch off day. You don't wear a tux every day you know. Very well put together video by the way.
On paper - no you should not wear a watch with a tuxedo. And there are events where I would not do it. The main argument (beyond not being rude by caring about the time) is the same reason you don’t want a swanky tie. The dress is all about what the women are wearing. Men are not supposed to stand out they are supposed to not draw attention from the women. Sexist? Dated? Yes, but that’s it. Personally more often than not I reach for my JLC Gold Reverso.
Style "rules" have changed greatly over the years. Wear a watch and keep it discreet and you'll be fine. MAYBE 1 in a million know the style rules if wearing a watch with a tux anyway. I wore my stainless DateJust with a tux and no one commented or even cared. If someone comments that you shouldn't be wearing a watch they are being kind of an ass anyway.
There is a school of etiquette that recommends wearing a dark face in the context of an evening event such as black tie and a white face with daywear only?
I think the JLC Master Ultra Thin would be a good choice or the Piaget Altiplano or even the Zenith Elite Classic. For a smaller budget although it has a small second I think the Nomos Orion is nice and they can be very discrete.
Sorry for the completely not content related question but you look familiar. Weren't you in some of us US Army Field Band's videos? Alto sax if I recall
funny, i agree with adam exactly... i looked at my fitbit and tohught, if this was thinner it wouldn't look bad with a more modern tux... if i was going to dress up classically i wouldn't wear anything modern but a pocket watch fits
I agree and think the Patek hobnail looks great with a tux. Love the Vachy ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I think you could pull off white gold on a hobnail if your studs were white gold too
just wear what comfortable. just don't wear a loud watch. also the key note here is that there is a presumptuon that being at a black tie event means that everyone is up up social bracket of society. in most cases this isnt the case and more rarity than commonality. if anytbing watched have formed a good discussion point amongst randoms. especially when seated in those randmosed tables of guests 😅
The Vacheron - though personally yellow gold is not my bag - is actually a perfect choice here. The simplicity of the dial with no other complications and the thinness make this as tasteful as it gets. If I were a Rolex guy (I'm not) then a Cellini would be the only choice. The Subby should NEVER even be worn with a suit let alone for black tie. Bond wears the Sub/Planet Ocean/Seamaster because he may be attending a formal event and then have the need to do a much more adventurous activity at the drop of a hat. I love the Bond series but that doesn't make it correct. I wear a vintage Omega from my birth year, black dial, no date, 35mm case, manual wind on a custom smooth leather strap with the Omega deployant, and I love it.
@@hespokestyle thanks for the reply, the sporty factor is just what i like about it. to me the royal oak is the perfect everyday watch for any event, the 5711 stays in the safe 360 days of the year and only gets worn a couple of times in the year (theres too many watch thiefs in germany ).
Consider also social situation and surroundings. To use your example, arriving to a party finding no one wearing a watch would then suggest to go without.
I hear you and there is something to be said for "reading a room". But in this case, I'm going to have to disagree with you. If you walk into a room that everyone is wearing a tie and you don't have one on, you made a big mistake. A watch is a completely different story.
Brian, just tossed out there for discussion. I could retort and also say how observant the group is about details. In your group not aware of the details and in mine they are. ;-P Speaking of ties, what if the opposite?
Ah, so I sit in the middle between you and Tanner Guzy, as will over dress unless has a significant negative impact. For example, difference between over dressed for errands and over dressed for an interview. Have a great day and appreciate the discussion and knowing more about you.
Although I save mother of pearl and platinum studs and cufflinks for white tie, and although I play with stones and enamels for my black tie studs and cufflinks (specially when wearing the warm weather variant with an ivory jacket), the metal for those is always white gold or platinum, as I really don’t think yellow and rose gold suit me and my preferences. That said, my watch always matches my studs and cufflinks metal (at least in colour). I choose to bend the rules a bit and either wear my Rolex DateJust 1601 with jubilee bracelet, white dial, and fluted bezel (inherited from my grandfather), or my Rolex Date 15200 in 34mm with a grey dial, smooth bezel, and oyster bracelet ( a present from my mother), or my Air King 14000 in 34mm with oyster bracelet, smooth bezel, and black dial (present from my father). Why do I do that? Well, for me it looks as feels great, and also I love to wear those watches because all three have incredible sentimental value to me and are attached to special memories, so I love to build even more sweet memories wearing them. They’re also practical, and beautiful, and understated, the DateJust being the most formal of the bunch. Leather straps don’t go well with my skin as well, so I love the metal bracelets. I avoid my GMT Master II and my Explorer 114270 though, with a tuxedo, as they’re too casual for formal wear even by my rule breaking standards.
I have always thought that Movado was a great choice. Very minimalistic and reasonable priced. Especially for those of us that rarely attend functions that require a tuxedo very often. But, I do definitely like the Patek and the Constantine if your wallet can accommodate.
I would wear a watch with black tie. I would wear only a pocket watch with white tie. But as you say, if I had been invited to a white tie event by the Queen I would wear no watch, because why would I need to know the time!
Nice watch there. A watch is fine at a black tie event. Just simple Roman numeral, which some precious metal accent and black strap with no date would be perfect.
Date windows are a bit distracting, IMO. Especially the DJ cyclops. That's the watch I was referring to when I said I would put on my tux and then add a watch (my DJ) and think it just didn't look right.
@@hespokestyle I think the vintage models work because they're more subtle, due to the acrylic not being as reflective as sapphire and the oyster case being more understated. Also, check out ryan gosling with his vintage rolex and tux, I think it's a good look
Yup I’d wear a Saxonia thin. I used to only like white metals but the Saxonia on RG is just too good with a tux imo. Next question though is: how often is one gonna wear a tux anyway? Haha
I'm on the OK side of wearing a watch with a tuxedo or black tie attire. Because I think the standards are becoming more relaxed and I'm not really a person that will stuck with conservativeness of style.
With satin peak or shawl lapel, cufflink, pocket square, cummerbund, Shirt studs, bowtie and suspender or waistcoat, not to mention these shiny patent tuxedo shoes. I believe there is really enough going on to differentiate yourself form other already well-dressed men who wear a suit and necktie. Sometimes, enough is enough. In my opinion, you do not need a exceptionally tasteful watch when you wear a full-on tuxedo set. There are plenty going on already ......
Actually, Alan does not say it is ok. He says look first for a gold pocket watch and if you must or insist on wearing a wristwatch then these are the considerations. This is not meant as encouragement or permission, it is a recognition that some men will violate the rule and if you do then this is the least tasteless way to do so. If you choose is not permission. It implies that Alan is oppressed to the wearing of a wristwatch. Alan wrote in very plain English, and it is error to assume he is agnostic. There is an old saying. English is a tricky language til you get the hang of it.
Great video :) I inherited a pp ellipse (ref. 3848) from my grand uncle with the gold bracelet. Do you thinkt this would be an option to wear with a taxido aswell?
First, I'd much rather see my guest arrive on time wearing a watch, than late without it. Second, Why only yellow or rose gold? My own dress watch is yellow gold, but I'd love to have one in white gold, platinum or even a refined stainless steel design to wear with a pair of sapphire/white gold guilloche cufflinks and plain white gold studs. Rules for a formal wristwatch, just as you put forward: trim and slim, subtle, nothing that you would ever wear to the gym or to play golf. For my money, no gems, save a stone set in the crown. Third, Make mine a Georg Jensen.
Brian! My good man, the newest version of the Patek Philippe Calatrava or what _was_ the newest version then at least in the classic time only, manual wind series is 37mm.
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I would say it's okay to wear a watch with a tuxedo just because I don't feel complete unless I have a watch on
Cheers. Thanks for chiming in, Steve.
Well put,”if it looks right and it feels right to you, then it is right”
Great advice and really appreciate your content
Many thanks, Gary.
I strongly prefer to wear silver or platinum with my black tie. I don't think that it's a matter of right or wrong just preference.
Definitely no wrong when it comes to metals. Totally preference. Gold is mine! Thanks for chiming in!
The idea behind the concept of not wearing a watch to a black tie event is, that you shouldn’t have anything better to wait for than that particular event. Not wearing a watch to such an event is rather a matter of respect than a matter of look in my opinion...
Some guys here would argue that a screaming yellow gold Rolex Submariner is suitable with a tux! 🤣. I’d choose a Jaeger LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin Jubilee in platinum.
Nice choice!
I have to agree!
David Niven is clearly using a wristwatch in the picture you show us, and it looks good on him. On the other hand David Niven always looked perfect in his style.
I rarely have the opportunity to go to a ceremony that deserves to use a tuxedo, but when I have to look formal and elegant I choose to use my little vintage Omega Geneve ,1969, quadrangular and in yellow and white gold. With a black strap it looks lovely and terribly dapper.
Thanks for the watch suggestions, I'll just get all of them to cover my bases
Good man! 😉
Lot of love for Reversos in the comments. I love JLC, and especially the Reverso but I worry a little bit that some models might be a little too thick.
A lot of love and rightly so! I was in Miami for Watches and Wonders last week with JLC and fell in love with the Reverso Tribute Duoface in pink gold. Would be perfect with a tux. They're quite slim. Not as slim as a VC Ultra-Fine 1955, but not many watches are!
Just went to dinner and then the ballet-I’m so glad I had my watch so we weren’t late!
Actually I think white gold and platinum hits it even better, but I would agree with your choices. Watches like the JLC Reverso a nice alternative to the Cartier Tank as it also evokes the Art Deco era we most closely associate with the semi-formal style of the tuxedo.
Definitely agree on the Reverso. Thanks for chiming in.
Look, it’s very simple really... a tuxedo or as the more stylish would say, Dinner Suit... must have a holster for your Walther PPK and be worn with a Rolex Submariner. 👍
Haha! Cheers.
That black turtle neck accentuates the 5711 on wrist. Great choice of attire while making a video on watches.
Thanks! Appreciate the comment and the eye for watches.
An often overlooked watch that I think will be iconic, is the nomos tetra (black dial/silver case), the art decò design of suck watch is thin enough to say "you notice, if you want to notice", which is quintessentially the spirit of black tie
Very interesting choice! Thanks for sharing that one.
I think a Cartier tank woud do a better Job at that
Nice video, being a timepiece enthusiast is enough justification to wear one with a tuxedo. That way I think it showcases more of my interest and character rather than being a disgrace to the tuxedo. I think I'd invest in a nice pocket watch if I'm someone who often attends black tie events.
Nice one Brian!
Many thanks! Appreciate the comment, as always.
That Cartier tank solo!
A classic.
He Spoke Style sorry but it looks like a woman’s watch.
David Niven, in your first picture, has a bracelet watch.
Agree Brian. You can wear a watch with a Tux, I mean James Bond did(Sean Connery a Rolex Sub and Daniel Craig an Omega Aqua Terra). Not sure if I’d go dive watch but all three of the watches you recommended are fine. I’d probably add a few Breguet and Blancpain models(yellow or white gold) and believe it or not I’ve worn a Rolex Explorer and looked fine. Keep up the great videos.
Thanks, as always, for the comment.
Yes, was thinking of Explorer 1 as well as an option, on a strap.
David Williams It would work well.
@@DWilliam1 I like the Omega Aqua Terra idea as well.
What about pairing the metal? Studs, Cufflinks etc with the watches.
Growing up in New England in the 70s, it was passed down to not wear a watch at Black Tie Events unless you were gifted it as a Groomsman by the host (inner circle) at his prior wedding and wished to acknowledge you were single to the ladies at his current functions. They tended to be engraved Cartier watches. 😉
Half of me wants to wear pocket watches with tuxedo. The other half wants a really thin watch.
A pocket watch is cool, but it can seem affected. A commenter mentioned once that he had a pocket watch from his grandfather, which I though was a really awesome accessory, especially for a tux! Cool watch. Cool story.
I love how the within picture you reference, the man is wearing a watch - which looks like a metal bracelet…
Very timely post as I was looking at what watch to wear with my tuxedo.
Excellent! Glad to be of service.
Great video, Brian!!! As soon as u mentioned u r abt to give some revommendations, the first watch that came to my mind was the Cartier Tank Solo. I ll wear a watch with a tuxedo, given a chance to attend black tie event😄😄😄😄
Excellent! I hope you have an opportunity very soon.
@@hespokestyle Thank you. Hope I do get a chance soon.
Tank is very versatile
My wedding is coming up and I want to accessorize with a nice clean looking watch that doesn't stand out to much but is timeless looking and classy. I'm wearing a classic black tux with a black bowtie. I've been thinking about the style watch and am pretty certain I'm thinking about going with black band.
A Breguet, H.Moser&Co. or Moritz Grossman. All models with small seconds on alligator strap.
Nice picks. Cheers!
H Moser and cie very underrated and beautiful pick
Some of us are required to wear at tux at work, thus a watch is necessary.
Where do you work?!
@@hespokestyle hahaha Oh my God! Sooo Expensive!
I agree with a thin watch, my first choice is 1960 Vacheron Constantin gold case with black alligator band, 2nd is Movado silver case black face. Cell phones are far more distasteful at formal events
Cell phones have no place! Thanks for chiming in.
Firstly, thank for another great video.
A nice dress watch looks best, PP, VC, ALS, JLC, Cartier or even a Cellini. Just don’t like a G-Shock (or equivalent) on the wrist of a gentleman wearing a tuxedo!
You're very welcome! A G-Shock with a tux???? I'm sure it's been done....
The Timex Metropolitan Skyline watch is a fine choice. Thin silver case, white face, and black leather strap. It's certainly a great affordable dress watch that pairs perfectly with any black tie ensemble.
Dress watch without complication. 36~39 mm. No thicker than 9 mm. White/silver/cream dial. Black leather strap. Candidates: Patek Calatrava 5227, Lange Saxonia Thin, JLC Reverso Tribute, JLC Master Ultra Thin.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Underscore the two JLC options.
The Piaget Antiplano is one of the perfect dress watch out there...
Amazing video, as always. Please do an updated hair routine/products you use.
That's been on my mind as one to do!
What if you want to have that 007 look with Daniel Craig's dive watch and tux combo lol
Have at!
Because he is 007
Just left a heated discussion. No need to worry no one was hurt or injured. I said HSS would have the answer and you did. Thank you.
Though with small seconds, the IWC 3531 in rose gold at 35mm is a splendid option.
Wonderful choice!
I wear my fathers 1962 - 14k gold Omega Seamaster Deville H.M.S. watch. Super thin, black band, very classic.
In the post James Bond world I suppose it is acceptable, but only subtle per the criteria you correctly layed out. I would rather wear a Tissot that meets your criteria than a Submariner with a Tux. Any watch with a metal bracelet simple would clash a d ruin the look that the tuxedo brings.
Many thanks for chiming in. Appreciate the comment very much.
I really disagree with gold anything with a tux. A tux is very monochromatic - B&W everything. Gold studs would look very out of place, ridiculous in fact Id go so far to say. I feel the same about the watch. Gold for a watch is passable but I strongly feel it should be silver.
I understand both views but I'm going with no watch. Simplicity is style.
Cheers, Terry. Thanks, as always, for the comment.
Great video, thank you. I do not wear gold for humanitarian reasons. What should I do?
My 1960's Universal Geneve Polerouter Date with it's black and silver 'Tuxedo' dial nails it
Yes!
You can wear tasteful watches as listed, but I do not think you should. Three main reasons:
1. Evening events are having fun events and you should not be thinking about time, you should be enjoying
2. Wristwatches are on the casual side and are in confrontation with formal nature of evening events
3. Wristwatches are staple of businesswear and as such do not belong in other settings, not only in more formal, but even in more casual setting
All wristwatches are casual in your opinion?
A leather band dress watch is fine nowadays
I have used my vintage oversize Omega 2505 from 1954 with a alligator strap and my two tone Datejust also some times.
Brian, while I don't get to wear my tux as often as I'd like, I have found it necessary to have a watch while on a cruse. I don't wear a wrist watch, but do wear a classic pocket watch with chain on my waist coat. I found it necessary to do so because of the ships scheduling of entertainment events. any other time, NO. Nothing says more about a man than at the end of the evening who is relaxed with his Lady, jacket off, tie undone, Burbon in one hand, cigar in the other and in a comfortable chair without any of the worlds cares and concerns. hope you approve and understand.
A Cartier Tank in rose gold with black leather strap would be my choice but I can’t afford one 🙁
Great video!
I’m looking to add a tank Louis to my collection for such occasions
Right now I use a vintage sea master from the 60’s on a black leather strap
Very nice!!!
I have a black Movado Museum Watch which I have worn with a tuxedo, it's the only watch I have that really seems to go with black tie.
It's simple, so yes, it'd work.
I am a purest. No one should not wear a watch with formal wear. Unless it's a pocket watch.
Best watches to wear with a tuxedo?
If you must, then as you chose, a VC Ultra Fine Historique, in yellow or rose gold. A pocket watch Patrimony can work too and be more streamlined. Personally, I'd just enjoy a watch off day. You don't wear a tux every day you know.
Very well put together video by the way.
What I did for my wedding!
Great choices.
JLC ultra thin on black alligator would work I think.
Hamilton Thin-o-matic 1967. Beautiful piece.
Thin dress watch time only...in white gold/stainless/platinum is also very appropriate...
Indeed. Thanks for chiming in.
On paper - no you should not wear a watch with a tuxedo. And there are events where I would not do it. The main argument (beyond not being rude by caring about the time) is the same reason you don’t want a swanky tie. The dress is all about what the women are wearing. Men are not supposed to stand out they are supposed to not draw attention from the women. Sexist? Dated? Yes, but that’s it. Personally more often than not I reach for my JLC Gold Reverso.
Interesting perspective. Thanks for chiming in.
Style "rules" have changed greatly over the years. Wear a watch and keep it discreet and you'll be fine. MAYBE 1 in a million know the style rules if wearing a watch with a tux anyway. I wore my stainless DateJust with a tux and no one commented or even cared. If someone comments that you shouldn't be wearing a watch they are being kind of an ass anyway.
Black tie = watch optional
White tie = no wristwatch, pocket-watch optional
Thanks for chiming in.
There is a school of etiquette that recommends wearing a dark face in the context of an evening event such as black tie and a white face with daywear only?
I think the JLC Master Ultra Thin would be a good choice or the Piaget Altiplano or even the Zenith Elite Classic. For a smaller budget although it has a small second I think the Nomos Orion is nice and they can be very discrete.
Good picks!
Sorry for the completely not content related question but you look familiar. Weren't you in some of us US Army Field Band's videos? Alto sax if I recall
Imagine a lady walking up to you : « Hey sir, I’m sorry what time is it? I might need to get home ».
And you’re like « I don’t know ».
funny, i agree with adam exactly... i looked at my fitbit and tohught, if this was thinner it wouldn't look bad with a more modern tux... if i was going to dress up classically i wouldn't wear anything modern but a pocket watch fits
I've once read that black faces are the go to. White watch faces are more appropriate for day wear especially in formal occasions.
A black dial will be more versatile, for sure. Looks better with casual than dressed up, IMO.
I agree and think the Patek hobnail looks great with a tux. Love the Vachy ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I think you could pull off white gold on a hobnail if your studs were white gold too
Agreed. Thanks for the comment!
just wear what comfortable. just don't wear a loud watch.
also the key note here is that there is a presumptuon that being at a black tie event means that everyone is up up social bracket of society. in most cases this isnt the case and more rarity than commonality.
if anytbing watched have formed a good discussion point amongst randoms. especially when seated in those randmosed tables of guests 😅
Why should you care about time, when you're having a good time ⌚.
Haha. Cheers.
Haha. Cheers. Thanks for chiming in!
A SIMPLE thin no complications, black leather strap gold/ rose gold should be OK
The Vacheron - though personally yellow gold is not my bag - is actually a perfect choice here. The simplicity of the dial with no other complications and the thinness make this as tasteful as it gets. If I were a Rolex guy (I'm not) then a Cellini would be the only choice. The Subby should NEVER even be worn with a suit let alone for black tie. Bond wears the Sub/Planet Ocean/Seamaster because he may be attending a formal event and then have the need to do a much more adventurous activity at the drop of a hat. I love the Bond series but that doesn't make it correct. I wear a vintage Omega from my birth year, black dial, no date, 35mm case, manual wind on a custom smooth leather strap with the Omega deployant, and I love it.
Very nice! Many thanks for the very thoughtful comment.
I always wear a watch, always.
for Tuxedos i prefer slim watches like the 5711 or the 15202 ultrathin
Not too sporty for a tux?
@@hespokestyle thanks for the reply, the sporty factor is just what i like about it. to me the royal oak is the perfect everyday watch for any event,
the 5711 stays in the safe 360 days of the year and only gets worn a couple of times in the year (theres too many watch thiefs in germany ).
They'll steal a watch right off your wrist?
He Spoke Style Yes. They tried that in Amsterdam and Copenhagen on me. Thankfully, I managed to get them off my wrist.
No Reverso? That makes me sad inside. Great video!!
Haha. Yes, a bit of an oversight, for sure.
Consider also social situation and surroundings. To use your example, arriving to a party finding no one wearing a watch would then suggest to go without.
I hear you and there is something to be said for "reading a room". But in this case, I'm going to have to disagree with you. If you walk into a room that everyone is wearing a tie and you don't have one on, you made a big mistake. A watch is a completely different story.
Brian, just tossed out there for discussion.
I could retort and also say how observant the group is about details. In your group not aware of the details and in mine they are. ;-P
Speaking of ties, what if the opposite?
Haha, gotcha. 😉 Always better to be overdressed than underdressed.
Ah, so I sit in the middle between you and Tanner Guzy, as will over dress unless has a significant negative impact. For example, difference between over dressed for errands and over dressed for an interview.
Have a great day and appreciate the discussion and knowing more about you.
Attending any sort of event, I would much prefer to overshoot the formality than not quite be dressed up enough. Errands? Wear whatever you want!
I personally think tuxedo's look great with watches.
Although I save mother of pearl and platinum studs and cufflinks for white tie, and although I play with stones and enamels for my black tie studs and cufflinks (specially when wearing the warm weather variant with an ivory jacket), the metal for those is always white gold or platinum, as I really don’t think yellow and rose gold suit me and my preferences. That said, my watch always matches my studs and cufflinks metal (at least in colour). I choose to bend the rules a bit and either wear my Rolex DateJust 1601 with jubilee bracelet, white dial, and fluted bezel (inherited from my grandfather), or my Rolex Date 15200 in 34mm with a grey dial, smooth bezel, and oyster bracelet ( a present from my mother), or my Air King 14000 in 34mm with oyster bracelet, smooth bezel, and black dial (present from my father). Why do I do that? Well, for me it looks as feels great, and also I love to wear those watches because all three have incredible sentimental value to me and are attached to special memories, so I love to build even more sweet memories wearing them. They’re also practical, and beautiful, and understated, the DateJust being the most formal of the bunch. Leather straps don’t go well with my skin as well, so I love the metal bracelets. I avoid my GMT Master II and my Explorer 114270 though, with a tuxedo, as they’re too casual for formal wear even by my rule breaking standards.
I have always thought that Movado was a great choice. Very minimalistic and reasonable priced. Especially for those of us that rarely attend functions that require a tuxedo very often. But, I do definitely like the Patek and the Constantine if your wallet can accommodate.
So no metal bracelets, right?
What if its a pocket watch?
I’m for a pocket watch...maybe something vintage.
Bonus points if it's an heirloom.
I would wear a watch with black tie. I would wear only a pocket watch with white tie. But as you say, if I had been invited to a white tie event by the Queen I would wear no watch, because why would I need to know the time!
Nice watch there. A watch is fine at a black tie event. Just simple Roman numeral, which some precious metal accent and black strap with no date would be perfect.
Patek 5227 / 5196 or a JLC reverso...
Beautiful selections.
I'd wear a vintage air king or datejust, even though it's not correct
Date windows are a bit distracting, IMO. Especially the DJ cyclops. That's the watch I was referring to when I said I would put on my tux and then add a watch (my DJ) and think it just didn't look right.
@@hespokestyle I think the vintage models work because they're more subtle, due to the acrylic not being as reflective as sapphire and the oyster case being more understated.
Also, check out ryan gosling with his vintage rolex and tux, I think it's a good look
Well, when you're as handsome as Ryan Gosling, you know, you can probably do whatever! But agree that the vintage Rollie is tasteful.
Yup I’d wear a Saxonia thin. I used to only like white metals but the Saxonia on RG is just too good with a tux imo.
Next question though is: how often is one gonna wear a tux anyway? Haha
Good video. My favorite watch is also the "cheapest". "Phewph" lol
Excellent!
I'm on the OK side of wearing a watch with a tuxedo or black tie attire. Because I think the standards are becoming more relaxed and I'm not really a person that will stuck with conservativeness of style.
Cheers. Thanks for chiming in!
Am I the only one watching this with a tuxedo on?
I'm wearing a pocket watch and fob for my low cut white marcella waistcoat.
Great video, however, can you wear a gold wrist watch?
With a gold bracelet it draws a bit too much attention with black tie, IMO.
But I like things to be understated.
Why does it have to be gold? Why it cannot be a silver watch?
With satin peak or shawl lapel, cufflink, pocket square, cummerbund, Shirt studs, bowtie and suspender or waistcoat, not to mention these shiny patent tuxedo shoes. I believe there is really enough going on to differentiate yourself form other already well-dressed men who wear a suit and necktie.
Sometimes, enough is enough. In my opinion, you do not need a exceptionally tasteful watch when you wear a full-on tuxedo set. There are plenty going on already ......
Thanks for sharing. There is certainly no wrong way. I like the reasoning behind your stance. Cheers.
Good video. I enjoyed this. Very informative. Thanks.
Many thanks, Marlin. Appreciate the comment.
Absolutely, Brian! Continue educating.
Its alot better then having to look at your phone for the time.
Yes, indeed.
I found a patent leather watch band. Should i get it to match patent leather shoes?
Never thought about that. Could be interesting.
Actually, Alan does not say it is ok. He says look first for a gold pocket watch and if you must or insist on wearing a wristwatch then these are the considerations. This is not meant as encouragement or permission, it is a recognition that some men will violate the rule and if you do then this is the least tasteless way to do so. If you choose is not permission. It implies that Alan is oppressed to the wearing of a wristwatch. Alan wrote in very plain English, and it is error to assume he is agnostic. There is an old saying. English is a tricky language til you get the hang of it.
Great video :)
I inherited a pp ellipse (ref. 3848) from my grand uncle with the gold bracelet. Do you thinkt this would be an option to wear with a taxido aswell?
Absolutely! That's so awesome. And the fact that it's an heirloom makes it even more special.
@@hespokestyle true! Sentiment over price.
First, I'd much rather see my guest arrive on time wearing a watch, than late without it.
Second, Why only yellow or rose gold? My own dress watch is yellow gold, but I'd love to have one in white gold, platinum or even a refined stainless steel design to wear with a pair of sapphire/white gold guilloche cufflinks and plain white gold studs. Rules for a formal wristwatch, just as you put forward: trim and slim, subtle, nothing that you would ever wear to the gym or to play golf. For my money, no gems, save a stone set in the crown.
Third, Make mine a Georg Jensen.
I need a watch with my tuxedos, as I am a professional musician...
Brian! My good man, the newest version of the Patek Philippe Calatrava or what _was_ the newest version then at least in the classic time only, manual wind series is 37mm.
Could you please a video or blog entry about styling a light coloured summer sport coat?
Recommend you check out the style guide on the site. You'll find lots of outfit inspiration for what you're looking for. But in the summer, yes, I'll probably do a styling video.
Awesome watch suggestions and video
White dial black leather strap . Simplistic …
So me wearing my Seiko Tuna 1000 like I did with my Tuxedo once is a no, no! Lol!
Haha. Well, for me, that would be a yes.
I would say a Cartier tank with the leather strap would go perfectly with a tuxedo
As in all sartorial matters i leave such tiresome matters to my butler a very able fellow.
all the best Brian kind regards.
Haha! Yes! Appreciate the comment, as always.