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  • Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez go in-depth on Vince McMahon's resignation from WWE/TKO on Friday following disturbing new allegations in a lawsuit.
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Komentáře • 452

  • @rosspearman2808
    @rosspearman2808 Před 7 měsíci +214

    Macho Man getting revenge through Slim Jim. Poetic justice

    • @torrancehale1819
      @torrancehale1819 Před 7 měsíci +20

      Ooooh yeeeaah!!

    • @williamanthony175
      @williamanthony175 Před 7 měsíci +12

      Snapping into it beyond the grave

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před 7 měsíci +5

      Cause it was only vince that was the problem

    • @Inequities
      @Inequities Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@MyChannel-ol1zzI mean, it was mainly Vince, yeah lol

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@Inequities And the several others named in the suit and all the enablers who knew about it, but sure just vince.

  • @torrancehale1819
    @torrancehale1819 Před 7 měsíci +55

    Vince screwed Vince!

    • @greenskiis
      @greenskiis Před 7 měsíci +4

      Among a lot of other people.

  • @smac919
    @smac919 Před 7 měsíci +117

    Cody seemed more like the head of wwe in the presser than Trips did lol

  • @grizzlywyatt9491
    @grizzlywyatt9491 Před 7 měsíci +62

    You don't start doing this stuff in your mid 70s you know he's done is before for sure.

    • @TheZaoNY
      @TheZaoNY Před 7 měsíci +4

      This behavior go way back. But money talk back in the days. I bet his dad and him knew about Mula trafficking.

    • @Inequities
      @Inequities Před 7 měsíci +5

      You hone your craft. You start seeing what you can get away with and it starts out fairly harmless and then you push the boundaries, and you use your fame and wealth and power to start grooming women. You’re absolutely right. He’s been doing this for a long time. He just got to a point where he was so comfortable being a predator, it became second nature

    • @philiphunn194
      @philiphunn194 Před 7 měsíci +1

      All of the gross on-screen stuff he did with women during the Attitude era makes much more sense now.

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x Před 7 měsíci +1

      Rita Chatterton.
      The masseuse in 2006.
      Sable before 2003.
      Ashley Massaro was raped by an Army Doctor during tribute to the troops & was immediately coerced to sign an NDA. This was status quo, they had a process to deal with this at that point. Who knows what women who actually ended up on tv had to do.

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@TheZaoNYI have no doubt in my mind Moolah was one of his inner circle. She was vile.

  • @345SM
    @345SM Před 7 měsíci +22

    Note on the NDA Law stuff, it apparently is actually retroactive.
    "The Law Retroactively Invalidates NDAs in Certain Circumstances
    The Speak Out Act applies retroactively to all NDAs that were already signed prior to the passage of the legislation. The law makes it illegal to enforce an NDA that would prevent a sexual harassment or assault victim from speaking out about their allegations. The law makes it clear that it applies to any claim that is filed after the date that the bill was signed into law, regardless of when the NDA was dated."

    • @Inequities
      @Inequities Před 7 měsíci +1

      It is actually far more confusing and convoluted than just that.
      So while a law was passed in 2022 that makes NDAs invalid if they were created to cover up sexual misconduct, the part about them being retroactive or not, is actually up to each of the states to make a decision on.
      You can put each state into one of three categories - 1) they do make them retroactive, 2) they’re not retroactive, and 3) it is currently being decided in the state courts, whether or not to make them retroactive.
      Connecticut falls in the third category and that is where the law will be enforced because of where WWE headquarters are. Currently there are two different people trying to pass laws making them retroactive but the vote is yet to come so actually we have no idea yet whether or not any of Vinces NDA are going to end up being retroactive. There’s actually a bunch of states like Massachusetts that have come out and said anything before December 2022 is not retroactive and not applicable to that law that you quote, so it’s pretty crazy

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x Před 7 měsíci

      @@Inequitiesthis is the tough part. Because I’m sure Vince flew her all over from FL to CT, hotels as Laurinitis’ “breakfast” 🤮
      It’s a huge issue that these acts took place in multiple states & over a long period of time. Time & likely money will tell.

  • @geraintthatcher3076
    @geraintthatcher3076 Před 7 měsíci +58

    Vince is probably begging Jerry Mcdevitt to come out of retirement

    • @user-ib6ky5os1n
      @user-ib6ky5os1n Před 7 měsíci

      *pegging

    • @nicolasawad4193
      @nicolasawad4193 Před 7 měsíci +8

      Given that Vince referenced high powered lawyers ruining people's lives in the lawsuit he might very well be showing up for cross examination.

    • @jacobpolitte410
      @jacobpolitte410 Před 7 měsíci +15

      Jerry, on a beach somewhere or whatever, looks at his phone that says VINCE, and just silences it.

    • @geraintthatcher3076
      @geraintthatcher3076 Před 7 měsíci

      @jacobpolitte410 He might come back just for the challenge. This is the toughest scrape Vince has been in, why not give it a go

    • @carl5381
      @carl5381 Před 7 měsíci

      Jerry will likely be deposed so I doubt it.

  • @theSuperviLLain_est
    @theSuperviLLain_est Před 7 měsíci +56

    Curious to see if Kevin Dunn saw the writing on the wall.

    • @adamlennard1828
      @adamlennard1828 Před 7 měsíci +16

      Yeah the timing can’t be a coincidence.

    • @watersandblue6001
      @watersandblue6001 Před 7 měsíci +11

      ​@@adamlennard1828 when i first heard he was gone, i thought how can this be real. You would not think someone like him leaves, without a bigger reason behind it.

    • @user-ib6ky5os1n
      @user-ib6ky5os1n Před 7 měsíci +14

      In the lawsuit they said Vince shared videos and photos of the victim to production team and a referee among others.

    • @bristolguy45
      @bristolguy45 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Or the sh@t hitting the head

    • @NostalgiNorden
      @NostalgiNorden Před 7 měsíci

      He was fired so nope.

  • @tenchi67622
    @tenchi67622 Před 7 měsíci +6

    You know somewhere Vince Russo, Eric Bischoff, and the Hart Family, among many others, are drinking toasts to Vince's downfall......

  • @TMPS93
    @TMPS93 Před 7 měsíci +25

    You'd think Triple H would have met with legal or HR to prepare a statement for the press conference. That's what anyone else in a leadership role outside of the wrestling industry would have done.

    • @NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
      @NoneofYabiz-rx3zi Před 7 měsíci +4

      Ain't no time for that when Royal Rumble was about to go down.
      Plus, he is chief content officer not a board member or Nick Kahn.
      He's an employee

    • @rigsby1454
      @rigsby1454 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@NoneofYabiz-rx3zilol you serious? Him saying he hasn’t read it is horrendous. Imagine being a woman working in that company and the son in law and head of creative can’t be arsed

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@rigsby1454I mean the document came out late Thursday night and he has the second biggest PPV Saturday night. I’m not surprised he didn’t find time to sit down and read 64 pages of a civil complaint. It’s not his job as head of creative to read it anymore than it is head of production or head booker. This is the CEO and legal’s wheelhouse.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@rigsby1454 He didn't need to read it. He likely already knew about all of it.

    • @83jdc1
      @83jdc1 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@mikeg2491 HHH was also in charge of talent relations, all his talent worked with and under Vince. Just out of that fact alone he just have put 30 minutes aside to read the lawsuit. Not to mention it's the grandfather to his children.

  • @jonpower9728
    @jonpower9728 Před 7 měsíci +22

    So Triple H just accepted the fact Lesnar wasn't showing up to RR and didn't ask for any details as to what happened? C'MON!!!

    • @BBBWrestling
      @BBBWrestling Před 7 měsíci +7

      I'm positive when he said he didn't read it he meant he didn't read the document with his own eyeballs, he can still be informed about the details of the lawsuit without reading it himself. The news dropped like two days before the rumble, he's still running smackdown inbetween one of their biggest shows of the year. It's not that farfetched

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@BBBWrestlingHHH likely already knew what happened. As did a number of people in the company.

  • @MyChannel-ol1zz
    @MyChannel-ol1zz Před 7 měsíci +23

    Let’s see if Cena and Danielson make excuses like they did the first time around.

    • @MrTrueCaller619
      @MrTrueCaller619 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Nobody cares

    • @markdinatale6660
      @markdinatale6660 Před 7 měsíci +4

      So my take on wrestlers not knowing goes further than a Triple H. Wrestlers travel, and seldom visit the HQ, so I can see that they might not know about the inner-workings of what happens at Titan Towers. Now, would word travel and rumors start, I am sure of it. Every company has drama where details seep out, EVERY COMPANY BIG OR SMALL HAS DRAMA and someone, somewhere knows what happens.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před 7 měsíci +9

      @@MrTrueCaller619 SA supporter alert

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 Před 7 měsíci +1

      They won't say a damn thing.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před 7 měsíci

      @@dogmd7 Like they won’t answer any questions asked to them about it? Or they won’t make excuses?

  • @AnssiEriksson
    @AnssiEriksson Před 7 měsíci +28

    This is tough to listen. Not referring to the subject itself, but the constant interrputions, "you know, you know, you know" and aimless rambling. Alvarez is fine though.

  • @hihihi1q23
    @hihihi1q23 Před 7 měsíci +39

    I just need to know why he went for that gross dyed hair and mustache combo. It's absolutely bizarre. He went from looking like a good looking old guy to the corpse of Clark Gable.

    • @jonny8908
      @jonny8908 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I wouldn’t make those comparisons. He is a serial offender end of

    • @ChickenNugNugz2
      @ChickenNugNugz2 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Vince never looked good or handsome, he just looked less weird. He looked like a weird Old man before the new look

    • @shylurker5883
      @shylurker5883 Před 7 měsíci +1

      jacked up corpse of clark gable

    • @kayskreed
      @kayskreed Před 7 měsíci +2

      Gomez Addams's great grandfather.

    • @pester2191
      @pester2191 Před 7 měsíci

      So he can abandon it all before a potential future criminal trial and make himself look frail and inspire sympathy.

  • @QualtM
    @QualtM Před 7 měsíci +22

    Politics, wrestling, and business aside, the main issue is a woman who just lost her parents was preyed upon and put through physical and traumatic harm. She was passed around and broken on purpose. At work by her superiors.

  • @konzi
    @konzi Před 7 měsíci +4

    Vince screwed Vince

  • @Dr_1212
    @Dr_1212 Před 7 měsíci +19

    Finally
    Goodbye predator vince

  • @LapsedComicFan
    @LapsedComicFan Před 7 měsíci +2

    Damn. Came here to listen and see what’s going on with this and got to hear Meltzer say……
    “as far as this lawsuit goes umm there’s so many things but I mean like have you.. is there any.. because here’s one of the big questions that I have no idea the answer for”
    Thanks Dave.

  • @fitzgerald434
    @fitzgerald434 Před 7 měsíci +9

    For HHH to be asked about those questions and to dodge the question and brag about all the money WWE is making was disgusting. It's exactly why I stopped supporting the WWE. Cody gave a better answer than HHH. When he said I didn't read the lawsuit I was done , how can a person in his position especially when he could be in that lawsuit as Corporate Officer #1 not read it. Wwe is a joke

  • @OscillatorCollective
    @OscillatorCollective Před 7 měsíci +26

    I hope TKO absolutely GUT wwe. There needs to be a complete house cleaning in that company.
    I know “everyone” loves HHH, but he probably needs to go too.

    • @HavenFlux
      @HavenFlux Před 7 měsíci +7

      I think if this happens and they dont apoint a Paul Heyman or William Regal but rather put in an Entertainment exec in place then this could be a serious problem for WWEs longterm sucess...

    • @iamnotanumber100
      @iamnotanumber100 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Agreed 👏👏👏👏

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 Před 7 měsíci +5

      You want more corporate non wrestling stooges running WWE and making it even more of a joke than it already is?

    • @torrancehale1819
      @torrancehale1819 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@HavenFluxAgreed. Putting an entertainment exec without any background in wrestling can be a disaster for the WWE brand and turn off a lot of fans.

    • @adamrichman6105
      @adamrichman6105 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Dwayne is going to take over.

  • @Bandana_Boi
    @Bandana_Boi Před 7 měsíci +20

    Ashley Massaro

    • @jordanakram5573
      @jordanakram5573 Před 7 měsíci +1

      What happened with Ashley?

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Raped in Kuwait and supposedly Vince and Triple H helped hide it @@jordanakram5573

    • @torrancehale1819
      @torrancehale1819 Před 7 měsíci +3

      I always thought Ashley was never really a wrestler. Especially after winning a beauty contest. All those bumps and injuries took a toll on her body.

  • @jimmymancus
    @jimmymancus Před 7 měsíci +1

    Does Linda consider divorcing Vince now? Obviously they aren't "together" and haven't been for years, but stayed married for business purposes. But now, does she want to be associated with him with these horrific allegations out there?

  • @calvinball1
    @calvinball1 Před 7 měsíci +5

    If people like Paul Levesque can reasonably be viewed as knowing what was going on, I imagine the story will expand to them pretty quick right?

    • @beckriv9854
      @beckriv9854 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I'm fairly certain they all knew about the NDAs and while Stephanie left, Paul wasn't as personally connected therefore retained his position because it was morally easier for him despite what was known and not known about the specifics and in the event of it all coming out he has that option of deniability of "we knew about the NDAs but my business is the wrestling side so I didn't ask questions about stuff that didn't involve that".

    • @samoanjoseph1457
      @samoanjoseph1457 Před 7 měsíci

      I really doubt that people who worked closely with Vince for years were totally in the dark. I suspect the same is true of family, or people who became family.
      If Paul, for example, were to say he had no idea what Vince was doing behind closed doors, I'd call him a liar. I think he would have known, even as one of the boys. These are people who were tight with Ric Flair, what are the odds they didn't know Vince had women on the side? Now, as for it being their responsibility to stop it? Vince was grown. And you could make the case that anybody who knew could have approached him, possibly at the cost of their job, and told him to stop. But the fact is, most people go to WWE to make money. You can be principled, when you can afford it. In much the same way I'm sure these women likely would not have gotten personally involved with Vince if they had the money to pay their own way instead. Or at least that's how it was framed this time. She needed money, Vince offered.
      So I would argue that anybody who knew and didn't say anything, wasn't necessarily guilty. Because the people who knew and did say something, probably don't work for WWE anymore. And even she stayed and stayed quiet for the money, so I don't really consider it fair for her to blame anyone else who did.

  • @shredenvain7
    @shredenvain7 Před 7 měsíci +9

    There is no way in hell that Trips hasn't read the lawsuit and there is no way that if these things are true that Trips didn't know about them.

    • @Sockimus
      @Sockimus Před 7 měsíci +3

      Dude had six hours of shows to prep for ahead of him when the document dropped. If you were Hunter, would you drop everything to read how your daughters' grandfather is worse than Roger Stone on Epstein Island? I'd wait until the shows were over personally. And then I'd wish I didn't read it after I was done.
      Seems like you want him to be guilty of conspiracy. His answer wasn't great but it wasn't a rambling coke tangent like we got with Tony and Kylie Rae.

    • @shredenvain7
      @shredenvain7 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Sockimus Have you read the document? It's got some crazy shit. It's also his father in law and the creator of the company he works for. Then take into account that Trips most likely had access to these documents way before the public did. He has read them.

    • @Sockimus
      @Sockimus Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@shredenvain7 I did read it. Did you read my comment?

    • @shredenvain7
      @shredenvain7 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@Sockimus Yes your argument is that Trips is so busy from wake to sleep booking TV that he doesn't have 10 mins to read a document that could cause great harm to the company he loves and works for. That is a ridiculous argument to make.

    • @Sockimus
      @Sockimus Před 7 měsíci

      @shredenvain7 are you done with your autistic temper tantrum?

  • @rollandcurtis874
    @rollandcurtis874 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Journalist: “Is there anything that’s out-of-bounds for you guys right now?”
    Vince McMahon: “Uh well sure, I think that there might be some things that are out-of-bounds, I mean there are no guns, there are no knives, there’s no R*PES, there’s no robberies.” - Vince McMahon in 1998

    • @JamesWilsonMD
      @JamesWilsonMD Před 7 měsíci +2

      That was in relation to the Austin/Pillman gun angle they shot at the house.. It was also during the time they did a miscarriage angle so he was referring to domestically strong angles they were avoiding.. Your reference is pretty weak here regardless of Vince's scandal!

    • @wkmalory
      @wkmalory Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@JamesWilsonMD yeah James keep backing monsters and correcting people online, your a fu***ng hero guy

    • @MikeyP1983
      @MikeyP1983 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@JamesWilsonMD You always get some smart arse know it all🤦

    • @JamesWilsonMD
      @JamesWilsonMD Před 7 měsíci

      @@wkmalory I do apologize, CZcams is flooded with absolute 🔔 🔚 marks on these dirt sheets who don't know their ass from their elbow, so when you correct them on their BS rhetoric they come back at you with pathetic stuff like what you've just said!
      Also - whilst I personally believe everything in the lawsuit (which I've read cover to cover twice) is real and genuine, we don't know how consensual it was throughout and most importantly we live in an open and free society where you are innocent til proven guilty!
      Cry more ya plant pot.

    • @JamesWilsonMD
      @JamesWilsonMD Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@MikeyP1983 It's just called being an avid wrestling fan that has a decent memory, it's not that hard.. Try using the other brain cell you were gifted with. 😉
      Also - without any context from the OP it fools people like you.. It was from "Off the Record with Michael Landsberg". 😘

  • @NostalgiNorden
    @NostalgiNorden Před 7 měsíci +11

    Looking forward to reading all the WWE stans defending Vince and somehow claiming that it is really Tony Kahn who is the bad guy....

    • @craigoneill2216
      @craigoneill2216 Před 7 měsíci

      I don’t think you’ll find anyone defending this crazy shit

    • @kellijones6481
      @kellijones6481 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@craigoneill2216Unfortunately, I’ve seen quite a few people who are defending Vince. I saw one CZcamsr (won’t mention his name but it’s out there) that made a 20 minute video that was titled “Vince is a victim”. It’s bizarre

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath Před 7 měsíci

      But but but Tiny Tony doesn’t blink and hugs the wrestlers!?!!? 🤣

  • @cal9784
    @cal9784 Před 7 měsíci +13

    "I... Y'know... The thing is... And it's not like it's... You know... Here's the thing, y'know, like I said"
    Meltzer's brain is fucking mush

  • @rj5822
    @rj5822 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Would love to see how a conversation with Vinny Mac and Travis Brown would go

  • @deekdeegler5059
    @deekdeegler5059 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Dave thinks HHH is oblivious at his job as head of creative because he didn’t read the lawsuit then 1 minute later admits he himself hasn’t read the lawsuit so doesn’t that mean Dave is also oblivious to his job as a journalist

  • @mulldrifterz6469
    @mulldrifterz6469 Před 7 měsíci +4

    If we can just get Dave to retire now, would be great. Tired of um, ya, you know, etc etc for minutes on end before a thought comes out.

    • @averagejoe4525
      @averagejoe4525 Před 7 měsíci

      "Tired of um, ya, you know, etc etc for minutes on end before a thought comes out" 🤣👍

  • @kingston4313
    @kingston4313 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Vince would have thrived in ancient rome. They had a specific job for guys who liked to piss, they used it to clean their togas

    • @MikeyP1983
      @MikeyP1983 Před 7 měsíci +1

      WrestleMania IX would have been appropriate😅

    • @MikeyP1983
      @MikeyP1983 Před 7 měsíci

      I wouldn't be a bit surprised or shocked if Bruce Prichard was involved, I've never known such a yes man, a total kiss arse,if Vince told him to lick the shit out of Vince's crack Bruce would have his tongue out in less than a split second,no hesitation at all. He is so pathetic he makes me cringe.

  • @jeffreyross71
    @jeffreyross71 Před 7 měsíci +3

    There is no way HHH did not know about this

  • @Matt-cr4vv
    @Matt-cr4vv Před 7 měsíci

    Honestly Vince coming as close as he did to surviving all of this was wild to begin with. Despite all of the issues and having to step away he was able to force back in he was able to pull off the merger at a substantial premium in valuation compared to what the stock was trading at when he was initially forced out and had a pretty nice arrangement to still be in the mix albeit in largely an honorary role as executive chairman. The day he resigned as CEO their stock closing price was $62.51 a share. The final trading price of the WWE stock was $100.65 a share. So to think he did all the stuff he did and was able to consummate a sale that led to the share price being 61% higher per share than what it was the day he initially stepped away was insane. And then you think that had he simply made his payments like he had agreed to even if he thought he didn’t have to this lawsuit likely doesn’t happen and he gets to stay around in the honorary role. Instead he decided to skirt paying $2M forcing him to leave again in even more disgrace than before and the price he will have to pay when this suit is said and done will be multiples of what he would’ve paid and could be even more if it’s ruled that the NDAs aren’t enforceable which we will then get to see more people flock in droves to sue him and that’ll likely be even more large payouts that are multiples of what he would’ve paid to Janel. And had this lawsuit never occurred he would’ve still been seen poorly but it would still be seen as improper relationship of a boss and employee instead of seeing the alleged depravity laid out in this lawsuit. Amazing that a businessman who always thought of the long game elected to try and skirt a sum of money that was peanuts in the total picture of his wealth and now blew up his entire legacy and will end up paying out immensely more money than he would have paid to honors the NDA. Entirely self inflicted destruction to himself

  • @auramigraine
    @auramigraine Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is just the beginning too, after discovery it could open up even more atrocities.

  • @brandonliddy6389
    @brandonliddy6389 Před 7 měsíci +2

    As long as Bruce and John are in there then vince isn't out. Also yes where's the lack of coverage on triple h and especially stephanie? Wouldn't be suprised there's a maxine twist involved

    • @dogmd7
      @dogmd7 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Which John? If you mean Laurinaitis he's been gone since 2022.

  • @MyChannel-ol1zz
    @MyChannel-ol1zz Před 7 měsíci +4

    “But but but Tony” - Deflecting drones

  • @SamSamSamJ
    @SamSamSamJ Před 7 měsíci +7

    I still believe Shane and/or another family member spilled the beans to start the investigation.

    • @fives.
      @fives. Před 7 měsíci +3

      Given what has been reported about what happened over the years at the corporate level, I could believe this

  • @MrSkittlez313
    @MrSkittlez313 Před 7 měsíci +1

    VKM ruined his family legacy. His grandfather and father were promoters. He didn’t leave the company for his kids. He sold out his name and ruined it. His father is turning in his grave.

  • @starswarslandoseries
    @starswarslandoseries Před 7 měsíci +3

    love the work you guys do. keep up uncle dave

  • @TheHardys01
    @TheHardys01 Před 7 měsíci +2

    1:51 Thank You Both for using logic to form a very good question.
    Triple H made himself look very shamefull last night, to those who are capable of logical analysis.

  • @DOHCtorJ
    @DOHCtorJ Před 7 měsíci +2

    Can Meltzer complete a sentence without trying to make another statement?
    If he is a journalist he should have taken a speech class.

    • @averagejoe4525
      @averagejoe4525 Před 7 měsíci +1

      *Perfectly* said!

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob Před 7 měsíci

      Bear in mind that Dave started reporting on wrestling when he was a teenager.

    • @DOHCtorJ
      @DOHCtorJ Před 7 měsíci

      @meekrob ok, I'm guessing it's been 50 ish years, and he still hasn't learned how.
      Thank you for the information, though. I didn't know it had been that long.

  • @seanbyrne2179
    @seanbyrne2179 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Vince Screwed Vince!

  • @onnu2001
    @onnu2001 Před 7 měsíci +5

    The lawsuit? Let me sum it up for you. When are the cops coming to make arrests? That’s your answer right there.

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath Před 7 měsíci

      That’s not how lawsuits work. You complete dunce.

  • @conormoncrieff5942
    @conormoncrieff5942 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Do you think Dave Meltzer will ever get a sentence out?

    • @NinjaSquirrel30
      @NinjaSquirrel30 Před 7 měsíci

      Why the F are you here then? The 3 of you who like comment also.
      Meltzer is #1 wrestling match and industry analyst. Coming onto a channel just to throw shade. Your lives are very boring and time wasted to do that.

  • @ArthurDent33
    @ArthurDent33 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Hopefully the family of Ashley Massaro can get some attention. He drove that girl to suicide

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I’m sorry she is gone but she claimed “The woman guarded the door while the man proceeded to inject me with a drug that caused me to be unable to move my body or to scream.” Just seems a little far fetched. Also the drug paralyzed her yet she claimed she felt pain throughout the assault? A small minority of patients have woken during general anesthesia but they never feel pain just general terror being awake. Also if the man was not a doctor as she claimed since he wasn’t dressed like the other techs, how did he know the right dosage or drugs to give her that wouldn’t kill her? There is a reason professionals administer this stuff and have to do precise calculations. If it was any random dude on the base I don’t think she’d lived to talk about it.

  • @stephanebeauchemin2987
    @stephanebeauchemin2987 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Also i think Triple H knew what was going on

  • @markdavidson1498
    @markdavidson1498 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Now kick rocks Vince.

  • @AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu
    @AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu Před 7 měsíci +12

    Maybe is possible that HHH didn't know everything that was going on. Remember he did have to deal with his own health issues.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před 7 měsíci +5

      No, just no.

    • @ArthurDent33
      @ArthurDent33 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Everyone in the company knew

    • @AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu
      @AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@ArthurDent33 Everyone?? I doubt that.

    • @cervantesthenilbog7513
      @cervantesthenilbog7513 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yuyou doubt this cause your naive and gullible. I bet you're beyond a wrestling mark, you were probably a vaccine mark too.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu May not be every single person. But alot of people definitely knew. And it's a safe bet that HHH was 1 of those people

  • @henryblazer20
    @henryblazer20 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Is Dave wearing the “I am Kenough” hoodie?

  • @calvinball1
    @calvinball1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Based on my general knowledge of companies that I've worked for and that I've heard to talked about and reported on, it would be difficult to imagine this behavior was contained to a fee people. Companies run on culture, and people talk. I think the number one question right now is who else was participating in this and who else knew it was going on and was complicit in him.

  • @vodkagal28
    @vodkagal28 Před 7 měsíci

    That's a good question. What if this case goes to court? What happens to WWE if it goes to trial?

  • @LukeLeonettiYouTube
    @LukeLeonettiYouTube Před 7 měsíci

    Triple H claiming he “didn’t read the lawsuit” gives him an out so he didn’t have to answer any specific questions pertaining to it

  • @001sander2
    @001sander2 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The board needs to resign as well for letting him back in

  • @kimymarie596
    @kimymarie596 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Those accusations are horrible. And seems like she got the receipts for some of it 😬

  • @leondarnell1
    @leondarnell1 Před 7 měsíci +5

    This is why i've been an Observer subscriber for over 35 years!!!! Really look forward to Dave's analysis.

  • @XhoowieX
    @XhoowieX Před 7 měsíci +1

    It was always obvious Vince was like this even from somebody who just follows this stuff from the outside, so people like Rock, Cena, Undertaker, Big Show etc who have publicly been unflinchingly loyal to him for decades need to be seriously looked at. And as for Hunter, it's barely even worth looking, only to find out the extent of his involvement.

    • @michaelparrish6093
      @michaelparrish6093 Před 5 měsíci

      Maybe he's a POS behind closed doors who ALSO did good things for people and their careers. People are complex. Also, Steph and HHH seemingly hated Vince.

  • @gildartswinters4984
    @gildartswinters4984 Před 7 měsíci +1

    the people who took down Vince McMahon was slim jim.

  • @tacdoc8736
    @tacdoc8736 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Anyone comparing Paul's response to Tony is simply dense. Tony is the president of the company and it's his lawyer that prepared the NDAs. Paul is over talent relations as the booker. He's not a CEO, President, or owner. He was also hospitalized and recovering from a heart attack during the window that she alleges these things happened. The single reference to someone that folks believe could be HHH says she had an office in another building, across the street from the building he worked in, and that she spoke to him once in passing in a hallway. There's no there there. It's above his paygrade from every angle. TKO doesn't want him commenting on it. They have people for that. Then there is the fact that he, Stephanie, and Nick all voted against Vince coming back, based on the multiple instances of him using company money & paying women to go away. To pretend like Paul is Vince's bestie is asinine. All that aside, Vince is his kid's grandfather and his wife's dad. What do you seriously expect the guy to say? The reality is the online pundits, including you two clowns, were going to be all over him regardless of what he did or didn't say. Where's your in depth "reporting" and follow up on Tony and Jericho?

    • @dsadams17
      @dsadams17 Před 7 měsíci

      Let's keep infantilizing Triple H and coddling him for his father-in-law getting caught in yet another rape.
      He's a former exec who was poised to take the company over. If he doesn't have the tact to handle questions like this, he doesn't need to be pretending to be the figurehead of the company.

    • @TheZaoNY
      @TheZaoNY Před 7 měsíci +2

      Can you show the proof about Jericho case ? Because they have proof about Vince.. If not just shut up.

    • @tacdoc8736
      @tacdoc8736 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheZaoNY No one has “proof” of anything on Vince, other than the settlements, either. There are accusations in a civil lawsuit. It’s reasonable to believe he was involved with her, but you can say anything in a filing. You clearly don’t understand how the law works.

    • @internationalchannel4life270
      @internationalchannel4life270 Před 7 měsíci

      Whether HHH knew or not, he could have phrase his response better than saying, " I don't want to dwell on the negative " or" Let's move on..." or some shit like that.

  • @auramigraine
    @auramigraine Před 7 měsíci +1

    Anyone remember Serena Deeb's Promo from 05/18/22?

  • @Bman32x
    @Bman32x Před 7 měsíci

    It’s just like the Washington Commanders & Dan Snyder. Got away with atrocious abuse toward women for years inside the organization, but it was only until he was screwing up the NFL’s money, was when stockholders & the other teams wanted him gone. When Vince’s actions messed with the money, then he had to go. The sale may have been the best thing to happen to clean everything up. But when McDevitt left, that was the writing on the wall that this was different.

  • @acelarson911
    @acelarson911 Před 7 měsíci +2

    the Royal Rumble show itself was absolutely ABYSMAL! the men's Rumble was slow, boring, and very unexciting...Punk and Rhodes looked like two old, slow senior citizens to finish the match...👎👎👎

  • @ImportAustralia
    @ImportAustralia Před 7 měsíci +1

    We've been down this road before. Who's to say it won't end up exactly like it did last time?

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath Před 7 měsíci

      VKM does not have controlling shares of TKO like he did with WWE. Are you new here kid?

    • @ImportAustralia
      @ImportAustralia Před 7 měsíci

      @@milk_bath Are you? This is EXACTLY how it went last time. Vince "stepping down" after allegations broke.

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath Před 7 měsíci

      @@ImportAustralia I repeat, VKM does not have controlling amount of stock shares of TKO/WWE to force himself back in like he did before TKO absorbed WWE. He had 80%+ of WWE, but only 12% of TKO. Do you have learning disabilities or are you just willfully dense?

  • @bunnyboy1
    @bunnyboy1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    How long until he weasels his way back in once again and everyone will just forget once again until the next horrible thing comes out

  • @Sockimus
    @Sockimus Před 7 měsíci +12

    I don't think Bruce was involved in the Vince excrement, but I can definitely understand wanting him gone because of Vince. I kept looking for Bruce in the document. While he wasn't there, doesn't mean he couldn't be involved, but the podcast with Conrad has made me feel he's more of a decent family man now and someone who sowed their oats before having kids. I wouldn't care if he got let go or not; I enjoy the unreliable narrative of his podcasts more than I do him as a booker. But I don't think Bruce was ultimately part of the deplorable sex crap. Insane to carry a gun to work? He is Texan afterall.

    • @rafaelriveracollazo8680
      @rafaelriveracollazo8680 Před 7 měsíci

      If he knew, he has to go. Because if it were to happen again he will not say anything because it will hurt the company. Anyone that knew has to go.

    • @Sockimus
      @Sockimus Před 7 měsíci

      @rafaelriveracollazo8680 no sign of him in the document so he passed the first test.

    • @WheelzGaming88
      @WheelzGaming88 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Bruce is happily married. The only thing he's definitely guilty of is knowing this pattern of behavior for years and never speaking up against it or reporting it to authorities within the board of directors.

    • @rafaelriveracollazo8680
      @rafaelriveracollazo8680 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Sockimus i don't know. Ronda Rousey called him as a "Vince avatar". A minion who will do Vince will when he was not there. We will see.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@rafaelriveracollazo8680 If that's the case. Then a number of people need to go. Cause a number of them knew.

  • @rigsby1454
    @rigsby1454 Před 7 měsíci +1

    What a dreadful culture at that company

  • @PhenomenalOne1000
    @PhenomenalOne1000 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Vincd screwd vince bret hart from the past must be laughing rn

  • @user-ho4yf2ez7n
    @user-ho4yf2ez7n Před 7 měsíci

    One thing for sure is he likely can never be a public figure again because this stuff is going follow him for the rest of his life.

  • @ronniesouthern7829
    @ronniesouthern7829 Před 5 měsíci

    Dave spewing his familiar words: Uhm, uhm, you know, I, I, I just cant uhm, uhm, uhm believe it, you know.

  • @lukashood25
    @lukashood25 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye.

  • @BOBBYSOX86
    @BOBBYSOX86 Před 7 měsíci

    Uncle Dave is so adorable with that microphone

  • @jesuszamora6949
    @jesuszamora6949 Před 7 měsíci

    WWE is going to chuck Vince so far under the bus it's unbelievable. They fight and lose, they're going to be destroyed by more disclosures. They'll settle, no doubt, and will not support Vince should he try to fight the charge.

  • @ronniesouthern7829
    @ronniesouthern7829 Před 5 měsíci

    Someone finally had the balls (and money) to get Vince out of there.

  • @JohnRigby5011
    @JohnRigby5011 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank God

  • @LeoNxL2Hx
    @LeoNxL2Hx Před 7 měsíci

    I think Brian is correct with the Vince not paying reason, but I don’t think he thought she talked, I just think he thought, well it’s out there, I’m paying to keep it quiet but now it’s out, why bother. And yes, he is an idiot for thinking like that, that old man mentality

  • @mr.c4p
    @mr.c4p Před 7 měsíci +3

    the texts are WILD. i'm assuming they're 100% verified but they're so nuts they're almost hard to believe. hard to imagine vkm using Lol, B, etc.

    • @johnm140
      @johnm140 Před 7 měsíci +1

      He can't even spell apparently

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Texts like a horny 16 year old lol. The guy was in his mid seventies 😂

  • @nameless5413
    @nameless5413 Před 7 měsíci

    "Vince screwed Vince"
    To some extent i am not surprised, he kept getting issues with locker room and some things he did (even in context of the time) were rather questionable.
    And once the allegations about the lady division started flying... oh boy it felt like there HAD to have been compliance from management of federation and its management. Even so i am bit surprised Vince would cut deal like that, really i thought it'd be from his cold dead hands or the same way he undercut his own father to get the buzniess, not in Mr. Ecclestone slowly yielding power to someone he sold buzniess to (altho his was at least not mired in controversy).

  • @ESWShockwave
    @ESWShockwave Před 7 měsíci

    Dave mentions that the texts were real. I’ve searched all over for the number being connected to Vince. Did I miss that information? Seriously asking.

  • @TheGekko135
    @TheGekko135 Před 7 měsíci

    "Any NDA dealing with sexual assault after the year 2022 is invalid". Lol if that WAS retroactive to years prior i think the wrestling industry would become a VERY different place

  • @sanchez501
    @sanchez501 Před 7 měsíci

    If the allegations prove true, it really is Vince Mcmahon screwed Vince Mcmahon.

  • @georgewolynetz3874
    @georgewolynetz3874 Před 7 měsíci

    To be fair though, if Triple H knew he'd be asked about the lawsuit after the PPV then I could believe he didn't read it. That way, he ain't lying when asked. Ask him again in a week and a half and he says the same thing, then I'd be suspicious. But I agree also that he could have handled it better and that Cody really stepped up.

  • @george.carrasco
    @george.carrasco Před 7 měsíci +7

    I keep wondering why Dave and Bryan have not covered any of the Chris Jericho drama. Or am I incorrect?

    • @TheBargainBinLLc
      @TheBargainBinLLc Před 7 měsíci +6

      Maybe because the guy that first dropped the story keeps going back on it and it getting invested in Twitter drama. He even said he is biased against Jericho. They probably shouldn’t mention it until something else comes out

  • @johns3491
    @johns3491 Před 7 měsíci +3

    He may have resigned, but he still owns 11% of the company stock. While that greatly diminishes his voting power, that still may give him a tiny bit of leverage should he want to return one day (such as if, by some miracle, he's able to disprove the charges against him).

    • @colinbennett2014
      @colinbennett2014 Před 7 měsíci +2

      He will be so toxic, he will not be allowed anywhere near a wwe or ufc venue

  • @ShootItALBY
    @ShootItALBY Před 7 měsíci +2

    "He's out, he's gone"
    Vince will find another way. Always somehow does

  • @willc3050
    @willc3050 Před 7 měsíci

    Maybe this is why he sold the company, maybe this is why Kevin Dunn left, maybe this is why they’re brought the rock on the board of directors and when he rang the bell he looked cold towards vince.

  • @todpolk
    @todpolk Před 7 měsíci +7

    Amazing Trips and Tony Khan both had sufficient time to cook up safe answers to questions about scandals at their scrums and both MADE IT WORSE. Wow.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před 7 měsíci +8

      Not even comparable in how bad the WWE situation is.

  • @DemonGiraffe95
    @DemonGiraffe95 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I would not be surprised if HHH has not read the lawsuit. I am sure he has been briefed on it but he is family. Stephanie very well may have stepped down the first time not long after the family found out what was going on.

  • @kencarr2190
    @kencarr2190 Před 7 měsíci

    How much was Bruce Pritchard involved.Did he know or more than know.

  • @Fallout7295
    @Fallout7295 Před 7 měsíci

    I'm honestly wondering if vince will make another comeback to the wwe & tko since he pulled it off the first time

  • @WheelzGaming88
    @WheelzGaming88 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Hunter is technically a McMahon

  • @AdamSylis-nh5oo
    @AdamSylis-nh5oo Před 7 měsíci +2

    I cannot blame HHH. How the heck was he supposed to stop Vince? Vince absolutely ruined HHH's NXT wrestlers in front of him, and he couldn't do anything. I'm not saying he is pure; the same goes for TK. But I'll take TK or HHH over Vince any given day. ⚡

  • @jdub5869
    @jdub5869 Před 7 měsíci +1

    TK gets crucified for the exact same stuff Triple H did at the press conference and most are praising him or making excuses for him.

  • @PK-ne8hk
    @PK-ne8hk Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dave's face looks like he was in multiple war games against the horsemen lol.

    • @meekrob
      @meekrob Před 7 měsíci

      I know, right? His forehead looks like he's been gigging it for years.

  • @sebastianhoward3304
    @sebastianhoward3304 Před 7 měsíci

    Well slim Jim was with WCW until they died when savage went over there.

  • @petefrenzel7296
    @petefrenzel7296 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This suit needs to go to trial & criminal charges need to be filed against the perpetrators if even a tiny amount of is true, it needs to be creamily filed.

  • @GodlessScummer
    @GodlessScummer Před 7 měsíci

    How many years has Dave been waiting to say "Vince McMahon screwed Vince McMahon"?
    (Yes I know I'm paraphrasing).

  • @justinsmith424
    @justinsmith424 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Triple H is in a tough position. I bet it broke Stephanie a year ago and imagine what his teenage daughter are going through

    • @user-py6sy4zm1v
      @user-py6sy4zm1v Před 7 měsíci +5

      Idk about that because 2 years ago when the news first came out she came out on led the crowd in a thank you vince chant and then he took a lap.

    • @dsadams17
      @dsadams17 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Big deal. He's the spokesperson for the company. He's not a widdle child who needs to be coddled. He's a former exec who should have the skills to field those types of questions.

  • @blakefranklin882
    @blakefranklin882 Před 7 měsíci

    19:30 notta good look on Bruce. I dont think he will be around in wwe much longer either. I think all of the Vince guys will be gone

  • @amitvishwakarma726
    @amitvishwakarma726 Před 7 měsíci

    "Vince Screwed Vince!!"

  • @MrJawstherevenge87
    @MrJawstherevenge87 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I think its time he stays gone. This is just nasty. Im no bible beater but this isnt sexting this is just sick and twisted. Ill just remeber wwe as the cartoon of then 80s. F Vince

  • @MrReganomics1
    @MrReganomics1 Před 7 měsíci

    Where was this energy 3 weeks ago

  • @JayMil365
    @JayMil365 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Trips is next to go