with all the dead men post I don't think that walls going to move till it rots away in 40 years. If it's over 5 feet tall I usually add another layer of gravel for additional or quicker drainage but that's me being nit picky I Dont think this job needed it. . looks awesome good work.
I have a 70-feet timber retaining wall that holds back about 4 feet of soil and just passed the 21 year mark. My wall replaced a professionally done one that lasted only 13 years. They are relatively cheap to build and go up quickly. Generous use of deadmen will keep them intact. Another thing is pesticide. After about 10 years the chemicals start to leave the timbers and the carpenter ants begin to move in, if left untreated. The ants favorite habitat is wet wood.
Did you use nails or screw, i can't see if you've used either? Will the weight hold it all together? thinking of doing similar in garden( though on smaller scale)
Use ACQ ( former CCA ), install drainage at low point well packed in gravel. Gravel pack should be used in first foot of excavation. This bleeds off water well and will ultimately flow into PVC perforated pipe, use schedule 40 with PERFORATIONS UP ! Or if you drill your own perforations at least drill them at 90 and 270 degrees. Perforations pointed down compromises water flow by loosing channel flow. Huge mistake made by many. Timber deadmans placed well in this video.
We bought a 40 year old house that was landscaped heavily with railroad ties including retaining walls. It is a nightmare to remove them and start over. While they are decaying they make cozy homes for all kinds of critters including yellow jackets (huge colonies) and snakes.
I agree. I got a retaining wall, currently my second one after 17 years, and thinking of doing a 3rd one. Timbers are very forgiving for big walls. However, they don't last more than 20 years. The ants start chewing on them after about 12 years. It seems that's when pressure treatment goes away.l
Doesn't sound like you are using actual railroad ties but instead just pressure treated 6X6 lumber....like the ones mislabeled in this video. Actual railroad ties are typically treated with Creosote which is toxic to fungi and insects and is a water repellent. I have some that have been in my yard since long before I moved in here (almost 30 years ago) and they structurally just fine.
Id the was aggragate used, how long do you think this would last? I want to do this in my house, excavating 6 feet down.. i really want the wooded look..
All pressure treated timber will rot especially if in direct contact with the ground... no doubt this will last 10 years or more but eventually I reckon the fixing points will fail due to rot, the timbers will fail and this will be a mess and a massive headache for whoever will be paying for it...
I wondered the same thing and does not look like he replies on here, but in the long run, this wall will eventually rot out and I pity the folks that have to dig it up and start anew.
Anybody who uses pt lumber OR railroad ties to build a retaining wall is an idiot. Most retaining walls aren't needed if you slope the hill, put in drainage pipe and then add something to prevent erosion.
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with all the dead men post I don't think that walls going to move till it rots away in 40 years. If it's over 5 feet tall I usually add another layer of gravel for additional or quicker drainage but that's me being nit picky I Dont think this job needed it. . looks awesome good work.
Kind of surprised you didn’t fill behind the lumber with gravel or slate for drainage
I have a 70-feet timber retaining wall that holds back about 4 feet of soil and just passed the 21 year mark. My wall replaced a professionally done one that lasted only 13 years. They are relatively cheap to build and go up quickly. Generous use of deadmen will keep them intact. Another thing is pesticide. After about 10 years the chemicals start to leave the timbers and the carpenter ants begin to move in, if left untreated. The ants favorite habitat is wet wood.
How would you re-treat the back side?
@@thelouiebrand There's no need to re-treat the back side. The ants come in from the front side.
Did you use nails or screw, i can't see if you've used either?
Will the weight hold it all together? thinking of doing similar in garden( though on smaller scale)
nice video but not rail road ties just pressure treated lumber.
Use ACQ ( former CCA ), install drainage at low point well packed in gravel. Gravel pack should be used in first foot of excavation. This bleeds off water well and will ultimately flow into PVC perforated pipe, use schedule 40 with PERFORATIONS UP ! Or if you drill your own perforations at least drill them at 90 and 270 degrees. Perforations pointed down compromises water flow by loosing channel flow. Huge mistake made by many. Timber deadmans placed well in this video.
We bought a 40 year old house that was landscaped heavily with railroad ties including retaining walls. It is a nightmare to remove them and start over. While they are decaying they make cozy homes for all kinds of critters including yellow jackets (huge colonies) and snakes.
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I agree. I got a retaining wall, currently my second one after 17 years, and thinking of doing a 3rd one. Timbers are very forgiving for big walls. However, they don't last more than 20 years. The ants start chewing on them after about 12 years. It seems that's when pressure treatment goes away.l
I have replaced all the ties wall with blocks.
Doesn't sound like you are using actual railroad ties but instead just pressure treated 6X6 lumber....like the ones mislabeled in this video. Actual railroad ties are typically treated with Creosote which is toxic to fungi and insects and is a water repellent. I have some that have been in my yard since long before I moved in here (almost 30 years ago) and they structurally just fine.
Id the was aggragate used, how long do you think this would last? I want to do this in my house, excavating 6 feet down.. i really want the wooded look..
That was epic. I need one!
thank you for video.
All pressure treated timber will rot especially if in direct contact with the ground... no doubt this will last 10 years or more but eventually I reckon the fixing points will fail due to rot, the timbers will fail and this will be a mess and a massive headache for whoever will be paying for it...
with all that effort and expense, the value would be better realized with a concrete product
Yeah eventually the treatment will fade and termites will eat it up?
Wish it were this fast Cool video, thanks for posting.
the best part of the video was the music
Fantastic video. Enjoyed it. Interesting how short a life people are suggesting. Anybody tell me what material they'd use to extend the life? Cheers
I would add some type of backing behind the wall and drainage aggregate a 3/4" stone to drain water away and help with wall failure and wood rot
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I wondered the same thing and does not look like he replies on here, but in the long run, this wall will eventually rot out and I pity the folks that have to dig it up and start anew.
impressive.
nice job!
Is there a follow-up to this? I would like to see more...
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Great if you dont have termites
How long did this take?
newadamearth about 1:47, not too bad.
Took them 6 years because they worked 2 hours a day on it
Nice wail but these are not rail road ties
I would have linked the deadmen parallel to the wall and added drainage control (stone and weepers). All that work is wasted.
thanks!
All that work and in 30 years those will be decaying so badly the entire thing will have to be replaced.
No way that will last 30 yrs
No se ve la terminacion
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That is a shit ton of railroad ties
1 more dead men then the grand total would be a fuck ton lol Geez
Those are pt timbers.
Not railroad ties.
Genius
What no cribbing?
Would be even cooler if you had used recycled plastic landscape timbers! (Shameless Plug)
Somebody has not used treated timber.(genedandy)
Termite city after 15 years
What was the cost for that project
The dirt alone had to be thousands of dollars. Then when all the wood rots and has to be replaced.
TOO HIGH !!!! :-o
Not railroad ties.
No explican nada
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Anybody who uses pt lumber OR railroad ties to build a retaining wall is an idiot. Most retaining walls aren't needed if you slope the hill, put in drainage pipe and then add something to prevent erosion.
In small yards, it increases the area of landscaping to enjoy by not sloping and having a wall or terrace instead.
Not needed??? The whole point of a retaining wall system is to eliminate the ground take up of slopes
"An idiot" that's pretty strong language directed at people sharing ideas
All rotten by now! Wrong prep and labor! What a waste of time and money!