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Unprofessional is the word. Not predatory. White dude tried to tell me the other day “if you don’t think touching hair is inherently sexual, then you haven’t dated black women.” As a black dude that goes to several locticians, I was flabbergasted by the white saviorism. Somebody else tried to tell me literal hygienic grooming leads to sexual grooming, I guess because it’s the same word lmao. People wanna virtue signal so bad.
A white mf tryna tell you about black women is crazy
thats crazy bruh
Boundaries. Students are at schools to learn about the subject they are supposed to learn. The teacher's hair needing to be done has nothing to do with the students lmaooo
Yea, and it's kind of weird to refer to them as his "best friends." Definitely had teachers in school that would overshare about their personal life. There needs to be a line.
If that's the case then anything that doesn't involve school teachers shouldn't pay attention to or care about
It was AFTER class. I braided my teacher hair in 3rd grade lol why he can't be close with his students
@@Jess-yp9fobe fr
Yeah unprofessional is the word. People need to stop trying to twist words.
He called them his "best friends".......HIS WORDS
@@MrJkusmc23 and he got his students numbers
yeah with the hair thing people were saying inappropriate and my first thought was ",why they sexualizing it "
@@peters10456170 Because most of the time when you see a grown ass man, in their 30 Hanging around Minor that not related to them being touchy friendly come on
@@legitjusticein high school and middle school I had my teachers phone numbers, so we could ask questions about homework or for counseling because the curriculum was very tough. It is not as weird as you are making it out to be. However the teachers kept it healthy line that they don’t cross with their students. Shit when I got to college most of my professors gave out their number for the same reason
Even if he has no ill intention with the children he doesn’t know what the children are thinking. If one of those little girls have a crush on him, he just fed into her fantasies of being one step closer to him. And one day she could tell him that she likes him and then he says oh no, that’s inappropriate. He cannot control what these little girls may say like she might get upset and say he SA her. Because she might be mad or she might be embarrassed that he rejected her so that’s why he needs to keep a professional guard up with his students. Watch the movie Crush or Poison Ivy. I had a friend who was obsessed with our PE teacher in the eighth grade and he was fine but he was so strict he had to be strict because all the girls wanted him they all thought he was fine and we’re all 13-14 years old. My friend wanted to re-twist his dreads for him the last day before Christmas break and he quickly said no and all the boys were laughing at her. She was so embarrassed, he stopped the other boys from making fun of her though. She was still mortified, And if it wasn’t for us(her friends) talking to her and assuring her like it’s no big deal. She probably would have taken it to another level because she is crazy. She got like 6 kids now with 4 baby daddies. And she tries to ruin their lives every chance she gets. I haven’t talked to her in 10 years because she crazy 💯
I didn't even think about it from that side. You're completely right. Adults have to set boundaries to protect themselves AND the kids from taking things too far even if the other side thought it was innocent. People always assume that the ADULT is in the wrong but sometimes adults are oblivious to crushes or bad intent and end up in dangerous situations.
THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE. YES. I BE TELLING PEOPLE😢
Honestly.. acts of services involving a minor to an adult are the start of many predatory cases and that’s probably why so many alarms were raised, boundaries are so important and what he was doing esp with having their phone numbers crosses a thin line which is probably why the opposing side don’t see much fault in this bc it can come of as interactive or a bonding moment but tbh the whole thing is very unprofessional.
The hair thing could be seen as unprofessional fs, but maybe it's just where I'm from, but students have their teacher's phone numbers most of the time. As long as they keep shit professionally I don't see a problem with it, but maybe that's becuase it's normalised where I'm from
@@jiajia7355 sure but lines get blurred easy that way, where I’m from teachers have to have permission to contact the student by personal phone from their parents and even that rule only applies to seniors but that man has the phone numbers of his middle schoolers which is crazy to me cuz did the parents know?.. like we only contact teachers and professors by school group apps or emails.
he don't have they number it was emails sent to his professional school email
@@juju.guru111 well idk if that’s true but if it is, still boundaries should be had for his protection and the kids that’s where he went wrong by not setting none and then publicly filming it leaving things open for assumptions
Oh, hell no! If there’s some important reason they need to speak to my child on the phone when not at school, they can speak to my husband or I. Predators love to speak to kids away from parents to ask invasive questions about their love life, whether they have a boyfriend or not, so they can test their boundaries. They do use intimate acts service to make them comfortable with touching them and more likely to agree to more comfortable with being touched. They will ask for massages. If you are a parent you need to educate yourself on how child predators operate.
*Dan Schneider doc comes out*
Y’all: “how could nobody see it?” “the signs were all right there!” “Where were their parents?”
[Weeks later]
*teacher being unprofessional with female students*
Also y’all: “y’all over sexualize everything” “the parents who think this is weird are forcing it”
Be so for real.
Now I’m not saying he’s on the same level but I don’t think anyone is forcing it by being concerned based on whats been coming to light lately.
And troyce was right to put in all the news clips and teachers and students being together. He missed one tho, a girl in high school was pimped out by her female teacher and his son.
It’s getting wild out here. Yeah not every teacher is weird but still not every teacher has pure intentions
Thank You
😂😂😂Right?! These damn idiots can't make up their minds. This dude waving a gang of red flags and they need to be addressed.
The point is better to be safe than sorry, just keep boundaries
Im still in high school rn so this for me is weird because whenever girls even brush thier hair in class they would get told off because its disrespectful and your not paying attention. Also i never want to even get that close to my teachers unless its a fist bump or im graduating and im going to hug you dont come near me
This.. you brought up some very valid facts, we can’t sit in class and do our own hair. And the personal space thank you for bringing that up as well.
The relationship between teachers and students should never include the term "best friends."
That’s recommended for people maintaining authority. This man belongs in the same age group as them so i can see why he’d see them as friends
Exactly! Unbraiding his hair and giving him a manicure are the types of things a girlfriend might do for her boyfriend.
@@joshuagolden26 he's darn near 30 and those girls are in middle school... 12-14 years old.
@@Msboochie2 its jus hair
It's not about sexualising it, nor is it men vs women. It's not about his intentions or his feelings. It's about CHILD PROTECTION. Anyone that works with children has had safeguarding training multiple times and know why boundaries are important. This shit is unprofessional, period.
okay the issue is the boundaries, the lack of boundaries create an opportunity for these young girls to develop feelings. the trope of a teacher with his students is SOOOOO common it’s in many teen shows one good example is pretty little liars. pls don’t say it’s not a big deal bc it is, there’s already a power dynamic and now no boundaries and we remember how we were as young teen girls… this is NOT okay.
cause okay where the male students? they could’ve been there too calling them his “best friends” all young girls playing in his head gigglin, I WAS JUST THERE!! it is wrong whether you see it or not, maybe bc i had first hand experience idk but when ppl are saying it pls listen bc i promise we’re not trying to make it it weird, IT ALREADY IS!! i’ve lived it dee! pls take our experiences and our stories!
Yall sound crazy
As a teacher, that is a big no-no. Especially for high school students. They are so much more prone to being groomed. So many boundaries are being crossed by that teacher and something is very wrong for him to think his students are his friends. 16 year olds and a 27 year old have nothing in common. You can have love for your students, but he needs to get friends his own age. Maybe he wasn’t taught boundaries, but he gonna learn now I guess
Idk I seen that video of him making an inappropriate “joke” about a teenage student. It was a girl in the bathroom showing off her behind with the caption “when she says she’s only into emo boys” and then it’s him with an emo filter on THAT is weird
Wait! The teacher getting his hair unbraided said that? Well that changes things…🤨🤨
It was not him
That girl grown asl btw😂
Lol that girl was not a teenager she’s grown asl
@@sammyjones8882no he didn’t say that, that girl wasn’t a teenager she was grown asl lol 😆
I think when it comes to men, ppl automatically have a certain type of way of thinking when it comes to them and kids, which I really don’t think it’s fair to men at all (and this coming from someone who was groomed and SA’d) but I noticed in school when we would be close with our women teachers it was “adorable and nice to see the children love you” but in some cases, when we would LOVEEE our men teachers and we wanted to stay in the class or skip lunch to be around him (the same thing we did with women teachers) then it was seen as “weird” and then “something not right there” which I find really bizarre because if that’s the case then we shouldn’t have been allowed around the women teachers that way either.
Treat the teachers the same way. If they want a professional environment
A lot of men are leaving and avoiding working with children and women for this reason and it’s gonna have a deleterious effect on education and other fields in the near future. People who are qualified for the job and would make great assets will choose to do other things so as to not have to worry about the specter of a false allegation or insinuation
This always reminds me of when I was growing up, we would have women in the neighborhood or a moms friend for example, call you handsome. Some even saying things like “that’s my lil boyfriend” or something. Weird but seen as acceptable. Meanwhile as a man, you better not even stand to close to a child, lest someone insinuate something about you. I had a child recently smile and wave at me at the supermarket in line. Just normal child stuff. I didn’t make eye contact and ignored it. Sad.
@@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime I always find women like that so weird and then ask the little boy “you don’t wanna be my boyfriend anymore?!” When they say “no” to them calling him her boyfriend is just so creepy
I think it’s fair because men have caused this perception themselves. Many of them are predators or say predator things. If they don’t like the perception then they need to hold themselves more accountable and separate themselves from these predators
@@BlackGirlLovesAnime6 why is it ok to be prejudice towards men?
I’m not even gonna wade into the fact he’s black and there’s a whole other layer to people insinuating things about black men.
Michael Jackson was definitely not the youngest of his siblings 😂😂😂 that’s JANET
Thank you. I thought I was going crazy.
Actually Randy Jackson is the youngest born in 1961
@@MJFANDOMEXPOSURE okay and Janet was born in 1966.
Actually the youngest is Joh’vonnie, Joe’s affair baby.
@@deondraemorris7603 actually it was me
Yeah, I agree with both Dee and Troy at the same time. LOL. Unprofessional which could potentially lead to something more dangerous. There are other ways to connect to your students. Doing innocent skits is fine. Grooming a grown man? No.
Yeh idk I find it weird just because no kid should be doing that for you like he’s a grown ass man too. I guess I see Dee’s side as well cuz nothing sexual about that but again it’s inappropriate
Ppl were saying it's sexual because hair = intimacy.
I believe it's more so unprofessional.
@@blueiris1542they were saying that because he’s a man and they are transferring their experiences of abuse to him. What he did was out of line, but you have to be careful even being seen as friendly towards children when you’re a male educator or therapist or anything because of people and their issues they haven’t resolved
@@blueiris1542those are the same people that if you suggested it was inappropriate for your girlfriend to do another man’s hair that you’re being insecure and there’s nothing intimate about it
@@sevenkpink2894No literally, I see both sides, especially since you never really know anyone’s real intentions, but what he was doing wasn’t sexual in nature at all, I think people were more so focused on the potential of it growing to be something more. So many boundaries were crossed, because why are we painting nails and doing hair in the middle of a classroom??
Thank you Dee! Yes in most cases it is innocent and to subject that predator status to everyone bc of what is promoted on media is what is disgusting. It’s unprofessional and leave it at that.
Calling these students your "best friends" is weird.
Question why isn't this applied to the women teachers also 🤔
But to make a point like the female teacher with the five male teens, if you get caught with your pants down, nobody should pity you imo. You, as an adult, put yourself in a compromising position. You are the adult with all the authority or responsibility when things go south. You should know better. All those teenagers can do scream and cry while you get hit with charges. They don't matter bc they are delusional about their own agency. I always remember discussing MJ getting into trouble for the last time and why I did not pity him. This type of stupidity deserves punishment. Who goes to an orphanage after getting out of the courtroom?
@@aceshouse3389 It applies to both.
@@MrJkusmc23name the principal who was fired and charged recently for dating a student. I’ll wait. You don’t know her name because nobody is taking about it
SHE'S BACK 😭 pls just as I'm about to go work
Also, Macaulay Culkin and his brother and whole family has said that this isn't true that Michael did not touch them. It wasn't anything sexual
I’m a protective father and if I saw that a grown man who is a teacher letting my daughter take down his hair I’ll get him fired that is unprofessional & inappropriate! See it the people who don’t have kids that don’t see anything wrong with this. Those men are the ones who will be nice and assault your child because you think he is “nice”
thats what im saying. And it will be the same ones that will not let their child anywhere near an authority figure, but still see this whole thing as innocent. So, what is what? i agree with you
This is why it’s important to maintain boundaries. People are mentioning they called parents to get permission. I would love to know what this have to do with education.? what about the remaining classmates are they watching and taking notes?
I hate to admit it, but a great number of women are easily bamboozled, and let down their guard, just because someone seems nice.. These kids need protective fathers like you desperately, because a lot of women have no clue on how to protect their kids. Many of them were never protected themselves. They allow strangers to move into their homes. where their children are no longer safe. My father was a very strict man, and I hated it, but as a grown woman I am so grateful, for his wisdom, although I didn't understand at the time.
You ain’t gon do nothing
@@randomcomment262 spoken like a true PDF file😂
I think it's unproductive during school hours. Kids go to school to learn. This was also harmless, so it's not that big a deal
they probably did when they didn't have any class
right they making a huge deal
I feel like extremely inappropriate and yes you can be close to your teachers but there should be some boundaries an the teacher is the adult he should set those boundaries. Yess it might be innocent but that might change who knows its better be safe than sorry.
See people say this, but when men act paranoid about being accused of things then people say they are paranoid and overreacting and that if you don’t have bad intentions then you have nothing to worry about.
You sound weird how is this weird ? It feels so innocent
@@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTimewho cares if they think you are paranoid? Same people that say that be the ones to slap you with charges later.
@@joseisins2341 oh I agree. I’m just pointing out the contradiction. There is an anti male bias in play in these institutions and with the public
@@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTimeI think the situations are different, since this is with minors, not full grown adults. I thought people would have a problem with it otherwise, but that’s not the case here.
I had wonderful teachers who clearly expressed that they loved and cared for their students, but they never called us their best friends / “besties”. While I don’t assume that this teacher had unseemly motives, I do believe propriety and professionalism require greater attention to healthy boundaries nowadays, because we do live in a world where there are so many over-the-line, inappropriate, and illegal things going on at schools. Teachers can be great role models, supporters, and advocates, and they can have an affectionate bond with students, but students shouldn’t be viewing them as friends or peers until they become adults themselves.
Also there was a video of a high school girl saying she likes emo boys and him dueting it with a filter of emo boy hair implying he could be that emo boy for her. I dont know how much more blatant the sexual attraction for children can be
i mean i think simply he has trained and learned how to be a teacher and defo knows what boundaries there are. i think the issue as well is that a lot of the things he’s letting them to do him seem random, if a kid is crying or looks visibly upset and you talk with them and they hug you that’s a different situation but allowing students to get close to you randomly is weird. finally last point😭 the stuff he’s letting them do is on the line between being wrong and being controversial which is literally why it’s being talked about, doing hair and doing nails could be seen as caring in some contexts but strange in others, if he’s recording and allowing several students to do it also works in his favour as he can argue the opposite like he has. not accusing him at all but i think he’s more in the wrong than right tbh
You better not hug a student. I don’t care what’s happening. People are gonna immediately turn that into something it’s not
@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime, so you??
It’s not everybody, no Dee. BUT. Boundaries boundaries boundaries. Like boundaries. It’s complete grooming. Grooming feels safe for kids. It feels welcoming and comforting. But we have to look at all possibilities. JS🤷🏽♀️
You sound so white rn bro
This is my take on this whole situation, ima 19yr old so I just graduated, in school we was always close to our teachers,talked to them,give hugs, even give advice on relationship and real world matters, but keep in mind we are older, in one class we had a cool English teacher he had long dread, he use to let us style them
But work was ALWAYS the main priority first
Imo I think it’s just a bond between students and teachers, it was boundaries that were made to ensure safety for students and teachers jobs but it bring us closer and established a good relationship
I feel some people overdo it and read too much into it, if they were teachers and so uptight not trying to bond with the students then the kids won’t be engaged and be bored
The issue is you don’t know when people have bad intentions until something bad happens. I don’t think you should treat everyone like a predator but I think you should understand that anyone COULD be a predator and that’s why you have to draw a line and set CLEAR boundaries. I’d rather be safe than sorry but I don’t think he is a potential predator I think he just does too dang much and needs to chill out with some of the things he is doing. If he doesn’t understand that then idk what to say. You can have a good relationship with your students without being overly familiar and overly comfortable with them. I always hated teachers that were trying to be overly familiar and overly cool with students when I was in school , it always felt weird. There’s a way to do it without doing too much. Id rather set boundaries to protect students then trying to protect a teacher’s feelings.
im happy he included examples... because its not weird to see or feel red flags... this happens waaaay more than often not unfortunately.. a big personal example is at my hs this "cool" spanish teacher was outed for sending nudes to this girls boyfriend.. its not a wall its maintaining appropriate boundaries with there students you know? we was alllllllll fast in hs its up to the adult to maintain strict boundaries. grooming is subtle and hard to pick up because that man had personal student numbers. NO. think back to the 70s people used to hand they kids over to they neighbors (everyone thought everyone had the best intentions which is a dangerous way to think) and they talked to once a week.. its nothing wrong with being aware, thats how you can stop actual s.a. from happening cause unfortunately most times it's too late.
I don’t feel bad for him because he started this talking about “let’s stir the pot” and there’s videos of him being a creep in his own classroom
not free spa workers
I doubt he’s making them. Or even asking. Little girls like doing hair.
@@RagnarLoudpak which is why an activity like this should not be practicing this in school. What about the little boys? I didn’t know they were attending all girls school.
@@PrincessDianaJ what about them? Boys typically don’t like doing hair. And I didn’t say it should be done in school. But y’all act like he’s getting free slave labor or something. I guarantee these girls asked him to do his hair. Doesn’t make it appropriate
@@PrincessDianaJ what about them? Little boys don’t like to do hair. Is it unprofessional? Yes. But it’s not forced labor or whatever people are trying to say.
@@RagnarLoudpak it is .. because they don’t attend a cosmetology school. If the activities don’t include both of the sexes, then it should be gym .. not braiding hair at school, where the girls get to pamper the teacher while the boys sit down on their phones and scroll social media.
The disturbing part is that all his “best friends” are females….
Right!!! Like why are u not besties and recording any of the make students
He said “5 of my over 100 best friends”
Where did you get that he was referring only female students. See how quick you took that somewhere?
@@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTimeCould be an all girls school too? But also girls typically know how to do hair more often than boys… so idk. But is it really that big of a deal? It’s unprofessional asf for sure but it’s not giving PEDO, but it’s true you never know anyway, I could see both sides.
@@sammyjones8882but is it an all girls school? No it’s not so what you’re saying is still not making sense you could’ve saved that shit
@@sammyjones8882could be. Is it? Or did you just assume it is?
Class was definitely over by the time he let them take his hair out and clearly the kids were comfortable enough to help their teacher out which means he’s a great teacher and the people who are sexualizing this are definitely projecting their own dealings with grownups
It’s called transference. People had something happen to them and they are tryna put what happened to them onto him. It happens all the time in these types of controversies. Unresolved trauma that leads people to make wild and outlandish accusations towards anyone they associate with the person who hurt them.
When ppl say they were comfortable doing it, my thinking is as opposed to what, him forcing them to do it? I don’t think people think he’s forcing them to do it. I don’t think that’s the problem.
That's not true. He said it was during class. If you're mistaken about that part of your analysis, I hope that gives you pause to reflect on the rest of your conclusions
@@johnorona99 Right didn't he say they had a "free period" not after class?
And he made it clear that he connected with those parents and made sure it was ok , social media is just a evil place tbh people will take their assumptions and run with it
The only thing wrong with this is that this can easily open up a door to abuse. Even if he has good intentions it can lead to more. Either in his eyes or the eyes of one of the students. Keep it professional. That’s all. He needs to set the boundaries as the adult. These aren’t his “friends” like he says they are his subordinates.
I dont believe their was ill intentions on this teachers part but if he is not holding a cosmetology class there’s literally no reason for those little girls to be playing in his hair. It is unprofessional on his part tho 🤷🏾♀️
Your very first opinion is the right one.... is it sexual? No, but it is extremely inappropriate and unprofessional. Kids aren't going to school to do their teachers hair or nails, or to become besties with their teachers. Why are you texting students? Why do you need to stay in contact with them after school? Zero reason. I can appreciate him putting effort in connecting with the kids and working with them, but there must ALWAYS be boundaries primarily for the kids safety, but also for your own, because very easily it can spiral into a what that dumb dude is going through right now.
i just think people throw out the word predator so casually nowadays.
People missing it was several videos of him getting his hair braided by the
Like why you getting these kids to do your personal work
SHe IS BACK I MiSSED U 😭😭😭
You can be a fun and great teacher without them touching you and you touching them ....he is sus
Had a teacher we treated the same way. Not often and not on camera. We didn’t hang out through social or anything either. That teacher took me in when I got kicked out of my home. Made sure I was set up with a paid internship and housing within a day. That was a man. People are hyper sensitive and it’s understandable, but calling people sus without cause or real evidence is dangerous. People get killed for less
@vikkidonn Yes, everyone experiences are different. I just think it's better to keep clear boundaries regarding touching. I said sus because of the touching and because the students are able to text him. Also, his tiktoks. What keeps a kid safe if all lines are blurred? Not everyone gets lucky.
Y’all are using the word “touch” to insinuate something he wasn’t doing. Unprofessional sure, but let’s stop acting like he was stroking their faces or something
@@vikkidonnpeople will slander a man based on them appearing too friendly or approachable but will be completely naive to a female educator or authority figure having a whole relationship with a student
I think the real question is, would he have allowed a group of boys to do the same thing? I dont think the idea would have even crossed his mind. It seems to me that even if he isn't sexualizing the girls, he does feel a sense of pleasure by having that type of power over them due to his authority. I dont believe that due to this he's a pedophile but he's at the very least weird and unprofessional.
I think you have a point here.
Bro what??
The fact you’re looking that deep into this is alarming… I don’t want my kid around a mind like that (you)
@@MJFANDOMEXPOSURE Of course you'd think that because analyzing the dynamics that men have with women(little girls in this case) or men(boys) means that you'd have to self reflect on your past and the way the your mom, grandma, sister or aunt were treated by older men when they were younger. It scares you because you'd have to accept the fact that abuse of power has happened constantly towards the people you care about without you ever caring or noticing. The bottom line is he as a man feels pleasure in having little girls serve him because it strokes his ego and makes him feel in control...... or maybe it just turns him on, but wtf do I know
@@MJFANDOMEXPOSUREfr, like ew
Grooming .. I’m trying to think of a reason why students would be that close to their teachers throughout the school day. For that extended amount of time.
Girl huh???
are you slow?
@@JUS2324 you need to watch some stories of sexual abuse victims. Grooming comes in all forms.. speaking from experience I’m not the only one stressing the fact about this being grooming. I would love to know why this teacher needs to get his hair done from his student. Can he not afford a regular hairdresser and again are they going to school of cosmetology? You may be comfortable with your daughters touching on some teachers while they’re at school, but most people are not.
@@PrincessDianaJ did your slow ass not watch the video? he said why he asked his students to take his hair out. y’all need to stop pushing y’all’s experiences onto everybody, just cause it happened to you, doesn’t mean it’ll happen to everyone
It’s definitely unprofessional. I’ve braided my teacher’s hair and classmates before. I don’t really see the sexual angle that people are insinuating but it is definitely inappropriate for the school environment unless thats within the school’s academics.
16:14 Took me clean out 😂😂😂
I DIED when he said the parents need a whooping 😂😂😂😂❤
When I used to be an after school counselor we weren't even supposed to give the kids hugs even if the child approached you first. Of course you don't want to be cold to the children because they do look up to you but once they hit puberty the boundaries are especially important. Oh yeah as I'm watching it's also not appropriate to film let alone post the children.
This is the biggest issue I have. the personal space there is none throughout this whole video. I don’t stand this close to strangers in the supermarket. I understand that this is your teacher and they see him a lot throughout the year, but they don’t need to be standing in close proximity to him like that. Not sexualizing anything but boundaries or boundaries he should not be close enough to the girls where he can brush up against their bodies.
I am noticing that *alot* (not all) women do not have this same level of outrage when women do things that are unprofessional or go well beyond that. There is a daycare worker, a female one, who was texting a ten year old and taking him from the daycare when she was supposed to be watching him. This did not make the rounds on social media. I saw a video of a woman dancing on an infant, did not go beyond a couple chuckles. There was an assistant principal who was charged and fired for having a “relationship” with a student, didn’t make it past local news. He was fired because a lot of people insinuated he had nefarious intentions, a lot of transference going on.
Comparing those situations to this one is kinda apples to oranges because the teacher posted the video of the students taking down his hair on his social media account on TikTok, so by doing that he was subjecting himself to opposing views. And idk which side of social media you’re on, but I see women constantly getting backlash for being inappropriate or having inappropriate relationships with young boys (boy moms for example)
@@bloodylemmon3030 it’s not apples to oranges, it’s apples to lines of cocaine. The stories i mentioned are blatant and egregious but did not get this level of scrutiny or backlash. I’m not saying don’t speak about it, I’m just saying that there doesn’t seem to be this much smoke for women who do much worse. In my opinion of course.
@@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime I’m saying the reason those stories didn’t get as much media coverage as this one is because he recorded the video himself and posted it on TikTok, where anyone can go viral for anything
@@bloodylemmon3030 I don’t see what difference that makes if it all ends up on social media? I’m very curious to as to what peaks people’s interest and outrage and what doesn’t.
@@bloodylemmon3030Right he clearly wanted to “stir the pot” and got what he wanted😂
Also the way some students be having crushes on their teachers who they feel is very nice to them or just showing them special attention and the students may take that the wrong way especially females
I’ve been saying what Dee has been saying about that teacher the whole time. I see white women everyday being convicted of sexual assault on a student but none of them get as much flack as this guy. 🤦🏾♂️
You see the thing is with black people some random 15yr old to 29yr old black girl or woman probably braided his hair in the hood anyway for $50 you weirdos made this weird.
You know what I made these comments at the beginning of the video 😂 dude is a bit too close those girls and I definitely wouldn’t let my daughter that close but the hair thing just ain’t that bad
Not substitute Dee 😂😂
he don't have they number. those were emails sent to his professional school email
Troyce is right. A lot of these kids need hella guidance and some of these teachers really be our safe spaces.
At most, I think it’s weird. I don’t think there is any sexualization or grooming going on. BUT…as someone from a family of educators, a lot of them did say this is inappropriate and wouldn’t fly at their schools. Not because this is sexual in nature, but no sensible adult should be asking children to do such a thing due to a lack of parental permission, child labor, and because this has no right/justification taking place in a classroom. I think he said he didn’t have time to take his hair down before his appointment, but…that is his problem and responsibility. Pay the take out fee or see if you could leave work a little earlier. Plus, what if the school board members are doing evaluations: they walk in expecting him to be teaching ELA and he has students taking his hair down/doing his nails💀💀. Whole school is going down
It was the end of the day after curriculum was taught when they were taking down his hair. Other teachers sent students as well to help. They don’t have his number, they messaged him via work email. I don’t see anything wrong with the video. And yes I have a daughter too. He shouldn’t have been fired over this. Smh
eww why is a grown man texting a child that's not his that he miss them
I agree with both side of this tbh but not everyone has bad intentions. I had an English teacher in highschool that had a whole pimple popping kit😂When we had free time she would ask who wanted their pimples popped lol. Never had any problems with the teachers but all of our security guards were creeps.
I’ve been watching the Law & Order Network channel and for the past week or so, they have been covering back to back stories of these damn female teachers messing with their minor students. Smh
And they get very little time
While I get people’s concerns….In my personal opinion I feel like it’s only a big deal if you make it a big deal. Casting such harsh judgment on someone and throwing around the P word is a lot. He explained it in the video: It was near the end of the day, they did all their school work, and they had a bit of free time. He asked if they wanted to take his hair out and they agreed. Now if you personally feel uncomfortable with that, that’s fine, but it’s kinda crazy to just assume the worst of everyone like that. I had some teachers that allowed their students to connect with them and it made learning so much fun. The classroom felt like a community and made being there more enjoyable. I retained way more of the stuff I learned with those kinds teachers than others, tbh. Like I said, I get that it’s kinda sus depending on how you look at it. Depending. Which is why all angles need to be considered and the people in the situation: teacher, admins, and parents, need to do their due diligence and take situations like this case by case. Idk, comparing a teacher getting his hair taken out in class to a teacher s*xgting their students and meeting up with them outside of school is just a little far 🤷♀️
11:41 my thoughts exactly. I can see straight through this man he’s trying to look like a hero but in truth he’s messy and seeking content. Its well known that schools provide safe ways for students to contact their students which is closely monitored, yet he makes it seem as if the children are in his DMs texting him as if they have his number. He is not helping at all, just stirring the pot a bigger mess then it is.
I find it extremely weird that the teacher calls his students his "best friends". Those kids are your students, and you should keep it that way. Blurring those lines and boundaries confuses kids and makes it easier for others with bad intentions to cross them.
michael jackson did what he did out of pure love and innocence just like this man, the world is a perverted place and people who don’t view the world in that way are subjected to being bashed for it
Initially I thought it was funny. Then I thought "he's just too damn lazy to take his own hair down"
Then after really listening to people make great points I was reminded of a time where a male teacher did something that was DEFINITELY grooming with my youngest daughter and that's when I thought about how this COULD be seen.
It's unprofessional and inappropriate.
Instead of him trying to get sympathy, he should've been looking at people's concerns and how his actions were being looked at on the outside since he seems to think he did nothing wrong.
IMO it just crosses the line between a student and teacher relationship. There are boundaries in place for a reason to avoid situations like this and being accused of being a weirdo. I think the Michael Jackson analogy was the perfect example because he wasn’t sexually messing with the kids, but his interactions with them were highly inappropriate no matter his intentions.
(But looking like a bag of laundry is crazy😭)
16 and 19 only looks so bad because the guy graduated while you’re in school still.
Lmao @ “grooming” bc nah it’s literally just grooming, OG definition.
At 16 I knew people who were messing with folks that were 23-24 😭 aye idk if they thought it was a flex- or what, but no lmfao. Just no.
okay then where’s his male besties then??
Right where are all the boys since this is not sexual why aren’t the boys Help take out Braids? Their fingers are perfectly capable of completing those type of tasks. This is grooming. I don’t care what anybody has to say he’s testing peoples boundaries right now who doesn’t mind him in their personal space.
I seen lil girls braid female teachers hair when i was in hs, there aint never been a problem
6:50 Troyce is so literal😂😂, instead Keeping the words classy and scientific he's just literal😭
In the 3rd grade my female teachers would let me sit under their desks and give them foot massages with lotion. As a kid I didn’t think much of it but if I told my mom she would probably whoop their ass lol
Wtf 😳 that extremely inappropriate
They had a case like this recently, where there’s a video of these teachers sitting in an auditorium, and the students are rubbing the teachers feet for whatever reason. My aunt was watching the Spanish channel so I don’t know what country it was from but it happened recently.
most of my teachers in high school would have their numbers available with their emails at school incase any of the students needs to contact them about work or something
This person is talking out their ass. Michael never just say drop the kids off. Literally there's a whole I really really appreciate bunch of evidence that people have found in the FBI found that has been exposed
Dee was a teacher? 😭😭😭😭lmaooo
Down here in the Caribbean we be having our teacher’s numbers 😭😭😭like not all the time we be wanting to email
Naw, that's weird af LMAO
If I ever had my teachers number, it was in a class gc and to communicate quicker. I’d never speak to a teacher one on one unless it’s through email or during class 😭
I was on the track team in middle school, and the coach had the whole team numbers
Yeah it’s just different because there might be a legitimate reason to keep up with students, especially with sports and practice and everything but you just don’t wanna *look* like you have bad intentions when you don’t
@@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime
I want to say it all comes down to gender. When I say that because the thought of a female teacher having her twice and done by her female students wouldn't be as opposed to a coach having all the boys on the team's number🤷🏾♂️
it still is innapropriate and unprofessional for minor girl students to be touching and rubbing and running their hands through their teacher hair its we|rd
Ok yeah he didn’t need to bring MJ in this. And every single word he uttered about him is literally made up 🤦🏾♀️
I think for me its too intimate (not sexually) Boundaries need to be set and kept. Now they texting "i love you and we miss you" etc... thats not okay at all. What's next class going out to dinner 😂 🍽️ like lets be forreal. He is inappropriate and unprofessional and im glad he got fired.
I have a cousin that was 12 years old and got pregnant by a 28 year old ..... Like shyt is crazy
Like even when i was in highschool and i saw that students had teachers phone numbers.... I definitely gave a side eye because its like why dont u have the parents number if it concerns their child?
That first class back must’ve been awkward
Lol If it was a women people would've celebrate by saying she's is so close a really care about her students.
My hometown was full of predators & groomers. You had good and bad teachers. The teachers I was close to, and even went to their house, were all women who never put their hands on me at all. Some people would say being at their house was too much. But in my experience, most problems happened when these kids got too close to the opposite sex. I knew an 11 year old girl who kept getting pregnant(aborting/miscarriaging) by this 23 year old guy she was "dating" until she couldn't have children by 14. Her grandparents were our neighbors and they would literally give her to him for the weekends. There was also a yt teacher there were rumors about in our school that always stayed close to the young yt girls bc he had "a preference." I always remember there was a handsome young guy that worked at a local convenience store that the local teen black girls would not stay out of his face. I was not one of them. I came in and got out with my products. Well, one day this guy comes from behind the counter starts groping me. Deadass I was shocked and froze up. I never came back bc it scared me, but I always remembered how those girls would be close to him and what he really was about. That said, there were multiple known unconvicted rapists I were warned about by my parents living there. Mind you, this is a small southern town. And the talk in town was too much like a lot of the stuff said in this video. A lot of parents left their kids vulnerable and the rapists had endless victims because of the mindset. A weird old man made me touch him as a kid. Some random guy wanted to kidnap me and another girl from a different school tried to rape me when I was a teenager. I'm also convinced my 2nd cousin is a child trafficker and wanted to feed my sister to a predator. Mind you, I had my guard up unlike a lot of these girlies I grew up with. Anyway, this comment is too long. I could talk on this topic forever tbh. But I grew up in this type of sh*tshow. I respect parents willing to put their foot down and say no. The teacher doesn't have to lose his job, but he'd be acting like he had an ankle bracelet if I had anything to do with it.
Y’all have see it from a parent point of view with daughters yes it was very inappropriate for him to have them taking his hair loose point blank period
2024 where if you eat cereal the wrong way they’ll cancel you
The girl was doing his nails because she wants to be a nail tech and wanted to practice on him .
Them doing his hair was not the big problem, his relationship with them is the red flag! Ik he’s a content creator but all your content shouldn’t be you playing with a group of girls after school!
See this guy isn’t telling all the information and this is how misinformation is spread. The students were not texting his phone number, second he did have parent permission and he mentioned it in the hair video. I think it may have been unprofessional but for him to get fired is unnecessary in my opinion.
MJ Is innocent. It’s 2024 y’all boring
They should’ve of been getting taught something instead of grooming him on camera very unprofessional and that man is clearly not into girls.
He said it was the end of the semester and they were finished with work.
It was very unprofessional I wasn't thinking that he was a predator. What he said that stood out he needed his hair done because they was recording the classroom for something. He also had a hair appointment regardless he could have done it himself. I feel like what people thinking is why just the young girls of his classroom. He said he has a great relationship with them which is great but what about the young men. I didn't look at it as far as him being sexual with the girls but he also knew that there are boundaries when it comes to teacher and student.
4:37 “29?” 😮😧😒😖
LOL Dee
The internet is a weird place. This is inappropriate but people are defending Drake to the death. Humans are cooked.
Plus there's a white teacher who did the same thing. Black people are traumatized.
Social media has destroyed the human brains concept of society
Facts! Or some on Drake ass but making excuses for this! This is damn near the same thing like he texting them letting them do his hair and nails n shit like wtf?! If this wasn’t a teacher and it was some random guy would it be a problem then?
@@kaylastroud9836 are you comparing texting 14 year old girls and dating people you’ve been orbiting around since they were 16 to this?
@@NobodyHasToAgreeAllTheTime Yes! How you know that’s not what this teacher was trying to do ? Him texting them and allowing them to touch him and calling them his besties how is this not the same thing how you know this nigga ain’t gonna start trying to holla at one of them when they hit 18? Just teach! Bro period you can care about them and be a support system without all of that shit! You seen and heard of countless teachers who are close to their students but not doing shit like this!
Troye is wild asf for 6:46 LMAO
It’s very odd
I always thought it was WEIRD & questionable. When people would let King of Pop (grown ass rich man) sleep with their children.
Who told you that?
@@isaiahthomas9162 did you not watch the video or hear the documentaries? About Michael having sleepovers with children.
@@zyriatilley dos you miss the point of where I gave a fuck??
@@isaiahthomas9162 you asked...
It’s odd and very strange yes, but you have to learn the circumstance of his stance & past life, he was not a normal man not in a negative way but he grew up on stage infront of thousands of people from the age of 5. Imagine life without a childhood, Christmas, birthdays, playing, being aloud to call your dad dad, he was so screwed up that he seemed the joys of childlike innocence in his later life after all the success he achieved (why he built neverland etc) and spend more time with children
That teacher is so weird. Children do not have a concrete understanding of boundaries and it's imperative for people with a duty of care to vulnerable people to take safeguarding seriously. Regardless of how innocent his actions may seem and his intentions may be, a student doing a teacher's hair in class, on camera is inappropriate (unless you are filming a tutorial for a cosmetology school). You cannot give grace or benefit of the doubt when it comes to inappropriate behaviour between teachers and students. At best it's reckless and undermines his authority, at worst it's a grooming tactic. Either way we shouldn't take that risk of saying it's okay just because nobody involved was in harm's way, teachers not only teach, they act as role models, so to model inappropriate behaviour and actively try to normalise it to a group of impressionable people is worrisome and opens doors for someone to be taken advantage of. Imagine this: one of his students who he's not so close to is quiet and shy and doesn't help with his hair, she watches on and thinks it's okay, normal, encouraged in fact. Fast forward to college, her professor is a creepy predator but she doesn't recognise that he's a weirdo until it's far too late. Young people know no better and it's the job of the adults around them to protect them by acting with caution and foresight. It's not his job to be besties with children, he can be close with them without having to literally be close with them.
I remember getting the teacher's home number but it was for questions about a homework assignment or test
I’ve had cool female and male teachers like that personally I don’t find it weird I can agree with unprofessional
nah agree, its my first time seein this video but im more so- like are they at school, helping him with his hair?? shouldnt they be learnin and idc if its after class, its still very odd
take your own hair down tf.. boundaries are a thing.. i watched it a bit more and with context.. i get it they were tryna help him take it down but its very odd of him to call them his best friends.. where are the boundaries..
the people sexualizing it are also weird af, its just unprofessional, i dont should just assume everyone is a predator, its good to have good relationships w/ students but again boundaries