Survivor All-Stars: My side of the story
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- Richard Hatch explains his side of the story of Survivor All-Stars
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“I’ve been bamboozled” is the best vote out reaction of all time.
I also love Penner’s Philippines exit
Nothing tops Judd
heckin bamboozled
I agree! I remember that it started a couple of people who flinched or kind of jumped a bit - I remember laughing out loud when I saw that. 🤣
Greg Buis fake crying is my personal favorite
On the Survivor subreddit, Lex was asked during his "ask me anything": "Hi I have another question. What do you remember about the Sue Hawk quit? And do you know how CBS helped her "deal with it."?
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This was the resposne:
"Oh god...this is a mine-field of a question and we could talk about this all night as well. I remember a LOT about it. That was a bad situation, and I really don't think Hatch meant anything by his actions...it really didn't seem that big a deal when it happened. But Sue's reaction...nearly a day later(!) was pretty bizarre. After she quit, she actually started reconsidering and wanted to change her mind and come back into the game. All of us still in the game got a late night visit from production who wanted to know if we would be okay with her coming back into the game, despite the fact that she had quit. (I think that the producers wanted Sue back in because she was a popular player.) Everyone on my tribe unanimously responded "FUCK NO.""
kbsydney hmm interesting
Wow I had no idea about this...that’s weird though..were they going to let her back when (I assume by that point) she had proper food and water and rest from the game? This could have completely rigged the season if she returned and even won...makes me wonder if cbs would have never shown us her quitting if she returned?
coolwahl I’m guessing they would have showed her contemplating it but then “staying in” and cut the part where she quit, left, and returned.
The tricky part for CBS, is that they never post-texted on screen, to say that Richard was innocent, and Sue was getting help. Someone else here said this too, and I agree. Now, after the "Dan" exploits, where they DID post-text on screen, they are now stuck when it comes to Richard. They'd have to own up to what they did, before they could invite him back. The part I don't agree with, is Jeff being the sole bad guy. NO decision on television is made or decided by one person, even if they ARE the executive producer. They all answer to a board of directors. Richard blames him, but I don't.
"A whole day later." Often the first response to sexual assault can be to brush it off and want to feel it didn't hurt you and then later feel awful about it so "a whole day later" is a dopey thing to say. Richard was naked he said "want some of this sweetheart" he waggled. He admits that he was naked to intimidate other players in the game. I actually love Hatch as a character on Survivor and a well spoken individual but all of the things I just mentioned are bad. I don't think Richard purposely rubbed against her but writing off Sue's experience even while accepting she's unstable is also probably wrong. I think we and Survivor production recognise now that being naked to intimidate other players is a form of sexual harassment. But Richard never realised that at the time and the producers didn't realise that. Probst saying Richard shouldn't be on a family show because he's a nudist is complete and utter bullshit though since all they had to do is say "no nudity this time." Done.
Dude why are you naked on the show in the first place? Just because the producers allowed it on the show doesn't mean it's ok. Ya live ur own life, u don't have to be like everyone else, but the others have to be around you on the show and don't want to see your junk. Just because you are gay doesn't mean you can't sexually assault a woman, just being naked is harrasement. You twist your words to make yourself a victim.
I’ve watched the clip now several times. I don’t think you did anything with any Ill intent. However, I don’t think you are doing any favors by making it seem like you are completely innocent. You clearly say “You want some honey?” To which she replies “gross pervert!” I don’t think when you said that, that you were honestly propositioning her..because that’s ridiculous. To me it was obviously a joke, but you don’t come away with your hands clean either
And in case my point isn’t clear. I don’t think CBS should be vilifying you, but I also don’t you should be vilifying Sue
100% he outright said on the show that he used nudity to intimidate other players. He made weird creepy comments to Sue during that challenge. Did he intentionally molest her? No. But he's not some blushing virgin here.
She says "Oooh that's gross" not gross pervert. And then Probst says "Come on no one cares about that." I guess comments intended as humour really got to her. That's what you said originally Richard that you thought she was tough as nails and could handle a joke and then she got sensitive but you aren't remembering what you said on a TV interview. And the whole using nudity to intimidate unfortunately actually crosses the line. That wasn't understood at that time though although maybe it should have been.
where is the clip
Ashley nicole season 8 episode 5 immunity challenge on the balance beams. You can look it up
I know the producers of Survivor and you didn't see it at the time but using nudity as a way to make others feel uncomfortable unfortunately IS a kind of sexual harassment that got to Sue. Also weren't Sue's tribe members telling her to go that way"?
Clearly cbs had no problem since years after they allowed players to be nude including women. There has yet to be any players from all stars that said they saw the incident happen. Clearly cbs producers and lawyers had to investigate these claims. And ultimately no charges where filed and invited him back twice and very likely invited him back for season40. He was not found guilty in courtof this or no one else from all stars have yet to say any such incident happened and yet he was not in season 40.
No Boston rob asked sue what she was doing when she turned around on the beam
While i agree doing this in a regular everyday setting would be harrasment, Survivor is not a normal everyday setting.
There ia a ton of emotional toll that comes from Survivor on all facets and people need counseling after being on the show. The show was never meant to be sunshine and lollipops, there are rules and Richard using his nudity wasnt agaisnt the rules. People do a lot of things on Survivor that wouldn't be tolerated in eveyday life, and things are ginna happen on the island that cause trauma, but you cant blame Rich becauee he was using an advantage that was afforded to him. Calling what he did harassment is very unfair as he only did it as a tactic in a challenge to someone who initiated contact with him. Sue and anyone else who would be uncomfortable by Richs nudity had every opportunity to get away from him and not be close.
@@BananaMana69but why did he do it? Because he knew people would feel uncomfortable touching a naked man which is harassment 😂
I've been waiting for a video like this for a long time. Thx for the explanation Rich!
He’s really out here trying to win us over while admitting he used his fat nakedness as a tool. That’s harassment and the show shouldn’t have let it happen- but he did that. He used his own body as a weapon in the game- it wasn’t sexual and it didn’t have to be. It was WEIRD and inappropriate.
This was my comment. Definitely didn’t think the actual guy was here. You’re a real character and a fast talker, but you need to learn to apologize. You have to take accountability for your part or real people in your life are just gonna be like, “Uh-huh. You’re right. You still got lunch?”
Maybe you want a bunch of meek fools and moochers you can manipulate in your life. Your energy is _perfect_ for the game, but not so primed for insight or enlightenment.
The second you admit your faults in this, I am just one person who means nothing but I would respect you for it. I 💯 agree Sue blew the sexual aspect of it way out of proportion, but that does not excuse your actions. Even if CBS allowed it, you still did it and you still see nothing wrong with pointing the finger at _everyone but yourself._
I see through that. I think a lot of people do. I really think you should swallow your pride on this one before you choke on it.
And just FYI, I’ve always liked you better than Sue. I’m not taking any sides. If you can dish out criticism, you should be able to take it.
Bottom line: You admit to being naked to make people feel uncomfortable. That’s harassment, not strategy, and I don’t care WHO said it was okay.
All these videos are doing is pointing out what a great personality, speaker, storyteller, and player Richard Hatch could be in modern Survivor. We know you aren’t and abuser or harasser Rich, I’m still bummed you didn’t make it out for Winners at War.
Hunter Borne this is exactly what I was thinking when watching this video
The most remarkable thing is that this video is a simple multicam setup and edit, not a knock on the creator of the video at all - but after a two year journalism program you would produce videos of this quality. Makes me wonder if the cbs editors even went to school.
I agree. Richard is awesome in all three: outwit, outplay, outlast
I'd like him alot more if he didn't walk around naked on the show
Thanks Richard I was wondering why you were not on Winners at War, being you were the very first Winner of Survivor. One would have thought that you for sure would have been there. I'd have loved to seen Season 40 with you playing in it.
At the end of that All Stars episode they should have had text on the screen like with the Dan incident, “Producers carefully analysed footage from the challenge and determined that Richard did not make any contact with Sue. Our professional psychologists are continuing to assist Sue with any trauma experienced.” Because they portrayed Richard as sexually assaulting Sue, they’re now stuck in a position where they can’t invite him back after the Dan situation. If they bring him back they either have to face the backlash from the #metoo crowd or admit they crafted an untrue narrative years ago. So unfortunately Richard and the fans suffered.
He went naked in a challenge where he knew there'd be moments where he would pass very closely with other players. Whether he actually made contact with her or not, why was he naked? That's so inappropriate. I have no sympathy for him. I felt violated as a viewer because he forced his naked body on everyone on the island. Thankfully for us it was blurred.
Millarr oh please! Naked or not you can tell the he barley touched her I just watched the episode and there was 3 people on that beam and hatch was trying to squeeze past that’s all
Millarr o
Didn’t mean to say anything. Sorry.
@@darthilli maybe read my comment again. I literally just said that none of that matters. I don't care if he says he didn't do anything. He should not have been naked. Survivor and CBS should never have allowed this. In what world is it appropriate to be naked in contact challenges when no one has expressed any interest in seeing anyone else naked. It's ridiculous that I have to explain this.
Have to agree...Hatch is a big part of why Survivor became such a big success. Would loved to have watched him on season 40.
Can hardly remember 10% of the players over the years, but will never forget the cast of season 1
I love the first season
I am subscribing to your channel, thanks to RH mentioning you, because you are speaking truth about what is really going on. Thank you Richard.
The world still loves and supports you, Mr. Hatch! It was obvious what she was trying to do.
I’m actually binging survivor now and just watched the episode, and Googled it all.
He’s really out here trying to win us over while admitting he used his fat nakedness as a tool. That’s harassment and the show shouldn’t have let it happen- but he did that. He used his own body as a weapon in the game- it wasn’t sexual and it didn’t have to be. It was WEIRD and inappropriate.
This is not sexual harassment. It’s a game. He was permitted to be naked. If you’re playing a game with a naked man and the idea of brushing past him bothers you, you can’t claim you were assaulted by forcing yourself into their path.
It’s a fucking game: if it means that much to you, don’t walk that way.
If she found it to be inappropriate; why would she run back onto the course towards him? There's zero reason to go back onto the course after finishing, ESPECIALLY if someone on the course is making her uncomfortable...
In reality, her going back onto a course she completed was inappropriate and weird... I can't recall anyone else ever doing that? It's an obstacle and hazard to people still finishing the course, and her running towards him while he's nude is weird on her part.
I also find it funny that you find the notion of him preserving his bodily autonomy to be a "weapon." Even after doing this, she STILL approached him. I think it's a pretty warranted concern speaking it ACTUALLY did occur to him? It validates why he took this precaution to begin with...
@@irenek112 He said that he was. It’s been a year so I don’t recall verbatim. Being clothed is a common decency, and when you exploit the opportunity to be indecent to purposely offend someone… that’s harassment.
Thank you for sharing rich! I did enjoy it. Found it fascinating!
Hey Richard, I found your channel today and I guess your channel is new. I am a huge Survivor fan. I respect your game and the fact that you won season one. I still think Kelly should have won. But, man mad props for coming up with the alliance idea. Genius. Mad props for how you played and how you played other people and winning the first one. You’re a Survivor legend and you have deserved that. I do think you’re arrogant but we all have flaws, I have lots myself. I appreciate your videos and your insights and information. You’re a good speaker, have lots of skills in that area and I like the style of your videos. Keep it up Richard. It’s really cool to able to communicate with someone I admired as a survivor player.
No Kelly should not have won if Kelly had won survivor would not still be going today
Keep making longer videos like these. They make my work day go faster.
Richard thank you so much for engaging with the fans of the show. I'm gutted you're not on the show as a winner. I remember watching you at age 10 and not liking you when you won. I was too young to appreciate the game for being a game and it was new. But then going back and watching the show again when I was in my twenties and really appreciating your gameplay. You're a great speaker and should keep this youtube thing going.
I quite liked it when Richard and (I think) Rudy were sitting on the sidelines plotting Kelly's blindside and then Kelly goes on an immunity run straight to the end. I'm like "That'd be right."
I am currently watching Season One (on Prime). I will watch Season 8 next. If Sue did not follow the rules by not dropping off into the water and caused the issue, she hurt Richs chances in the challenge and in the game. I wondered why Rich wasn't in this years of all winners. Thanks for the Video. You are very well spoken.
I struggle to believe you are as innocent as you claim you are
Go see the video. Sue grabbed all up on him. She wasn’t even supposed to go his direction. That’s not sexual assault or harassment. Sue Hawk is just crazy and a Karen.
The dude lived on an Island with 3 very attractive young women for weeks and never got accused of anything until this Sue incident which you can go watch and see was nothing.
so glad u posted this video sharing ur side of the story, it was a huge letdown for me to learn tht u (imo one of the most intelligent & entertaining contestants the show has seen) wldnt be on winners at war. i understand that i can never know for certain what happened but what u said makes sense to me and even way back when i never suspected i’ll-intent on ur part at all. this has been a huge loss for cbs imo however i’m mad psyched i found ur youtube so i can get my hatch fix on the reg 🤘🏼
seen the show since season 1.. your a great player! glad you didn't change your style. what you see on the film floor would really be a eye opener i bet. Hope you get a chance to play again.
I always thought it was weird on that episode of season 8. I’m currently watching a few seasons of Survivor on Hulu.
I was upset to find out you weren't on season 40.. Thanks for this video, I appreciate you!
I am too. It felt weird having Winners at War without the original winner there.
Im from México and a big fan of survivor 40 seasons later. I saw the first season 20 years ago and from the first day I love Richard Hatch, and today I am really convinced that he is a great person, intelligent, a great player. He deserved be on the season 40.
Hey Richard, first of all thank you for taking your time to address us fans on your thoughts of Survivor, on how the game has changed throughout the years, as well as this issue from All Stars. Secondly, you look great!!!! I honestly laughed (well more like chuckled) when you said that you never had no interest in sexually touching a woman, I totally get it, I myself am gay and have no interest in woman like that, so I found it more humorous than anything. Also after rewatching the episode during the challenge, what was Sue yelling right before the incident happened, it sounded like something baby??? I also feel like had this incident with Sue Hawk been such a big deal it would have been covered/talked about the live reunion. I'm extremely disappointed in production that you will not be on this season of Survivor due to the incident with Dan last season- I think this a poor excuse not to have one of the all the greatest winners be on an all winners season- I mean let's face it, you set the precedence of how to play and win Survivor- that it's not an olympic game, it's about numbers (an alliance) and strategy. There's no comparison between the All Stars situation and what Dan did last season, at least in my mind.
I'm glad I checked this out after hearing about the incident. Always good to get both sides of the story. I'm inclined to believe this, because it's not a question that execs in corporate media will happily throw anyone under the bus to make a buck, and if Sue did seek legal action and lawyers were involved, I'm not sure that you'd really be able to really get away with lying about the incident. I have to ask though, if CBS knew there WAS no instance of sexual assault, and perpetuated it anyway, is there a case to be made for slander?
Just now wrapping up my first viewing of Borneo and you were truly a pioneer, Rich. It was fascinating watching how you adapted to the people around you and were able to essentially control most of the game. It sucks that you weren’t in Winners at War, and that we will most likely never get to see you play the game again. But at least you will always hold the title of first Survivor Winner.
He’s disgusting
He must know that being left out of 40 meant the relationship with CBS / Survivor / Probst is broken beyond repair. HvV2 will happen one day. FvF3 will happen one day. This video ensures he won't be on those seasons or any other in the future.
He is a game changer. He is an all-star. He is a fan. He is a favourite. He is a villain. He is a winner. He is the blood and water of the show. He will never get redemption. He has fallen over the edge of extinction.
His future on CZcams however is very promising, which I'm convinced is being uploaded from Ghost Island.
10/10 comment
No he still wouldn't have been on them even without this video because the public reacted so strongly to Dan's sexual harassment and then kept bringing up Richard and Ghandia. So CBS is scared of that now.
Well, Survivor Island of the Idols starred by Dan Spilo happened right before Winners at War.
How in the world would you and everybody else expect Richard Hatch to be called back to play in the season that is running immediately after Island of the Idols? CBS received a lot of criticism for not intervening in all the Dan/Kellee situation earlier when they could and now they would ignore all of that and bring back a guy that rubbed his genitals against another contestant... yeah, sure way to go CBS!
Of course they would not call Richard for this season and to be honest that is the wisest thing they could do at this moment.
This is why we need to listen to every perspective and not just one before we come to our conclusions
I love survivor(the concept not necessarily the people behind it similar to you i see) and I will always remember the players who were funny smart and socially nifty. The guys who won most immunities found idols or even win the whole thing because of it werent always the most interesting to me.
So Iam glad I can say that You,Sandra,Natalie Anderson,Todd,Tyson or Chris from Vanuatu(these are just names that popped up immediately there are many more) are great examples of winners that Survivor is actually about EMOTIONAL and SOCIAL intelligence, not the MATHS one as i like to call it :) Just hope it will stay that way and not turn into competition of founding things and being faster or stronger which sadly looks to be the future of the game. Those shows already exists and I believe survivor is much more. Be sure you have a fan even in Czech Republic. Would love to see u on a screen one day again.
I just find it weird that nobody told you anything about what happened after filming
keep in mind it was a different era of Survivor, no social media, no youtube, no cell phones really so it is not surprising once contestants went back home not knowing anything or spreading it like they might do now (I don't mean spilling info on the season to the public, I just meant with each other because they played the game together). Nowadays it is easy to be connected with other players post show and also connected to the Staff like producers. Back then it was not that uncommon that once the contestants went home they did not stay connected or communicated like they are now in 2020
Honestly heartbreaking to just begin watching the show from season 1, becoming a huge fan, and then finding out what transpired. Please continue making content!
I absolutely love this explanation. It gives much more context to a situation I knew very little about. I am very sad you were snubbed of your spot in 40. A question I have, on top of a physical exam, is there a mental test you have to pass to play?
Yes im pretty sure there is
DADDY RICHARD! I LUV U
Just watched the episode for the first time and came to CZcams for clarification on the issue. I’m glad you explained your side of things and what happened behind the scenes. Fucking sad that the video needed to be made 16 years later. I’m sorry it’s affected your reputation to such a level. Hope you’re doing well and wish you all the best!
This is exactly what I always thought happened, glad you were able to explain it all in full. BTW 'Shark Attack' is still my favorite Survivor episode of all time. I was devastated when I found out you wouldn't be on Winners At War. You're the greatest Survivor legend of all time.
Watching through all the episodes with my family and I'm happy I saw this. Thank you for explaining your side. I dont know of I like the way you talk about sue but everything else seems true
You are an amazing human, the wit you display is on par with the best.
Was there an apology in there somewhere? I think I missed it.
@John Peter dude chill
so sorry you went through that. so happy you are using this platform to show your side of the story. 👍
Yes i watched that episode i saw you didn't touched Sue Hawk
On Russell Hantz’s channel they’re doing a top hundred Survivor countdown and playing clips from interviews with cast mates about how wonderful each name on the list is. By Russell’s standards it’s really been quite positive. But when Sue Hawk’s turn came up, they lifted carefully selected sound bytes from the beginning this video (I’m going to guess without your permission) because apparently this is the _nicest_ thing any castaway has ever said about her! 🤣
It was a real slap in the face to you Rich. You are definitely a legend in Survivor.
Thank you for making this video! I would love to hear this from Sue's perspective instead of just conjunction. Are you still on speaking terms with her? Maybe you two could do a video together and talk it through.
Wow, Rich! I recently decided that watching every season of Survivor, from start to finish, would be my quarantine "project," after stumbling across an episode from season 21 during a night in at college. Before this, I knew of Survivor and had watched a season or two growing up, but that's about it. While my friends thought you were cocky, I knew from episode one that your intelligence, charisma, and strength would lead you to the very end. In other words, it was clear that you had a plan. I am currently on season ten, and a winner has yet to top your performance in my eyes. Additionally, very few players in general so far have seemed to express a true understanding of the game and the importance of both manipulation and staying in the majority. When the "incident" occurred on All Stars, I sympathized with Sue, and was bothered by what you did, but I didn't believe that you meant any harm or realized your actions would result in the effects that they did. Now, after watching this video, I feel terrible that any of that happened at all. I feel fortunate to have this new perspective of the way things went down, and I am so sorry that CBS has completely amplified and misrepresented the situation, publicly and wrongly dragging your name and reputation through the dirt. Many fans of Survivor, including myself, know that you were 100% taken advantage of by both Sue and CBS. So, just know, we are on your side. I hope to see you in the limelight again soon, and on the positive side of things, where you deserve to be.
Those are incredibly kind words, Stephanie, and I thank you for taking the time to share how you feel. Feeling understood means a lot to me, and I’m grateful. 🙂
@@RichHatch this Mexican LOVE YOU RICHARD 🥰
@@madeloliver6416 😘😘
@@RichHatch He’s really out here trying to win us over while admitting he used his fat nakedness as a tool. That’s harassment and the show shouldn’t have let it happen- but he did that. He used his own body as a weapon in the game- it wasn’t sexual and it didn’t have to be. It was WEIRD and inappropriate.
This was my comment. Definitely didn’t think the actual guy was here. You’re a real character and a fast talker, but you need to learn to apologize. You have to take accountability for your part or real people in your life are just gonna be like, “Uh-huh. You’re right. You still got lunch?”
Maybe you want a bunch of meek fools and moochers you can manipulate in your life. Your energy is _perfect_ for the game, but not so primed for insight or enlightenment.
The second you admit your faults in this, I am just one person who means nothing but I would respect you for it. I 💯 agree Sue blew the sexual aspect of it way out of proportion, but that does not excuse your actions. Even if CBS allowed it, you still did it and you still see nothing wrong with pointing the finger at _everyone but yourself._
I see through that. I think a lot of people do. I really think you should swallow your pride on this one before you choke on it.
And just FYI, I’ve always liked you better than Sue. I’m not taking any sides. If you can dish out criticism, you should be able to take it.
Bottom line: You admit to being naked to make people feel uncomfortable. That’s harassment, not strategy, and I don’t care WHO said it was okay.
@@Scoopski_Potato10000000%%
I watched All-Stars last year as a new fan. I wasn't around to see the drama in the real world at the time of the Sue incident. When I watched that episode I had no idea what Sue was talking about and honestly I never thought you would do a thing like that. I felt bad for Sue and that's about it. It's very unfortunate that the legacy of this event has affected you and especially if it played a part in you not playing in WaW.
Rich you are one of the greatest of all time 👌
a lot of this me-too stuff can really destroy men
Likewise. When I watched the episode I had to watch back like 6 times to see what she was talking about!
It’s terrible that they’re doing winners at war without the original winner. Will miss you in season 40! ❤️
They didn't even bring it up during the reunion which surprised me
We need more compelling storytellers like you Rich. Scratch that, we need you on S40!
Well said Richard....At some point in any successful business there is collateral damage, and that's where the lawyers waivers come into effect. The business of television is about ratings and advertising revenue...and writers and producers make decisions to keep the viewer engaged. So yes, they skew the show to create interest, curiosity and longevity. At the end of the day it's a huge business that employs so many people...provides big salaries and even bigger bonuses to the executives. Like many other businesses it's also about keeping the shareholder happy...and increasing the value of the company....because bonuses depend on it. It's not just the business of television. Every company with shareholders strategizes endlessly about the product they deliver with the sole purpose of increasing share value. Whether they sell television, oil, equipment or food, somebody in the process takes the hit down the line.
I believe you are good. They were wise to pick you in seasons past and you delivered well. Regardless of what the viewer thinks or knows, it would have been wise and entertaining (and perhaps even controversial) to include you in season 40.
Cbs is very good at navigating poorly, thinking they understand the fans. Look up how they affected dr Quinn medicine woman in the last season and the two movies. They manipulated that show "to make the shareholders happy" and lost the viewership and hurt the shareholders. Cbs, like most media companies, are out of touch with what their viewers actually like about any of their shows.
Kudos to you, Champ, for coming out and giving us your side of the incident. I was a kid when you won on the original season and was disappointed with the negative portrayal of you following this "incident." Can we still call it that? :)
God bless you, Sir!
you’ve got to be joking…. the man walked up to her junk first and said “you want some, want some honey?” i don’t care if he was doing lightheartedly, it’s still assault because he crossed a line and made her uncomfortable
“the incident” no just call it what it was, him being a pervert
@@jadeeliss1370She literally turned around and waited for him and taunted him beforehand, and then stood there when he was standing there with his hands up and it took Jeff yellong at her for her to move. Boston Rob even told her to go on the other beam but she decided to wait for Hatch.
@@BananaMana69 why do you think she did that? cause she could’ve had many reasons that pertained to the game they were playing, that’s not an excuse to be a pervert
I’ve been waiting for years for your voice on YT. Your perspective is well worth the wait. Better late then never. Thank you, Richard, for sharing. As others have commented, you should’ve played a part in 40.
Anybody got a link where I can see the challenge and the clip myself?
Just look up survivor all stars fourth immunity challenge part 2
It’s tough, because rich clearly didn’t mean anything by it, but that doesn’t necessarily matter if he still made Sue uncomfortable. The problem is, I think due to conditions and paranoia and the environment that is survivor, sue’s experience warped and twisted so that any slight discomfort was magnified. Sucks for all involved, everyone loses
Agreed society is hypocritical these days. A woman can do it because “men can’t get assaulted”. I think Rich was the victim, she went on the pole he was on when she could’ve clearly gone on another one. She literally looked at Rich and said “I want this one” when people told her not to and the “want some honey” comment sounded less like a joke and more pissed. Like, ALRIGHT, I’ve told you to go away, you know what, fuck it, here you go. And then he got framed. But whatever, hopefully Rich gets the redemption he deserves.
And women can flash men flirt with them cuddle with them to get whatever they want but when a man does some thing he’s in the wrong? It does not make it ok
@@cupcakecandyshop918 ok, but Rich was literally naked his entire season. No one complained. The problem wasn’t Rich being naked in the challenge, the problem was Rich groping someone. And flirting has always been fine when it’s consensual. It would be different if a woman came up to a guy and grabbed his dick.
@@FantasyPNTM eh groping? Did you even watch that clip? He was first one in that narrow beam. Sue was the one who decided (either intentionally or just a split second unintentional decision I don't know) to go on that same beam as him. He did what any normal person would do in such a tight space, squeeze through without falling down.
You’re making it sound like it’s his fault by saying this..
This was super enlightening to watch. I will admit I've been ignorant to the whole situation that did take place in All Stars, but was open to the idea that you didn't do anything wrong, and so I'm glad I finally got the chance to hear your side of the story. You were ROBBED from not getting to play S40, and it won't be the same without you. :(
I didn't watch the show back then, so I don't have any personal attachment to Sue or Rich, and I don't have any first- (or second-) hand knowledge on the situation. What I do have is a lot of experience both practical and through research with abusive behavior. I am very concerned by the comments here and the statements being made in the video.
The first thing I have to clarify, because apparently not enough people know it, is that sexual assault and harrassment is not about sex or attraction. It is about power. When a gay man in a bar "honked" my breast because he didn't think I should be there, that was sexual assault. When Rich decided to play the challenge nude, rubbed against another player, and then made a "joke" sexual in nature, that is at the very least sexual harassment. Self-admittedly his intent was to intimidate. THAT, not attraction, is exactly the psychology behind sexual assault and harassment.
The second thing I need to point out is how much gaslighting Rich is doing in this video. This isn't just explaining his side. It is an orchestrated attack on Sue's character to make her a less credible victim. Just the word unstable being used once was enough to be gaslighting, but he said it repeatedly in order to invalidate Sue's perspective.
Like I said, I have no personal stake in either of these people, but just based on this video alone, this man seems every bit a predator.
Honestly I am not the hugest fan of Richard or Sue but if you don't know him and don't know Sue you aren't really in an accurate position to know if he is gaslighting us.
@@kmaguire7161 Knowing the parties involved is not a requirement of knowing what gaslighting is. Rich used the majority of his time in this video to discredit Sue as unstable, as not knowing her own mind or her own experience. Whether or not Rich was innocent doesn't change the tactic he used instead of just telling his side of the story. It does, in my opinion, say his story probably doesn't hold up on its own.
Sue was a horrible person to people on the show, just horrible and when that incident with her a rich happened she brushes it off and people laughed, no one took it seriously until sue very much over reacted later and it was a scary scene but because she was “sexually assaulted” but because she was angry about life and maybe things that had happened in her past, she mentioned numerous times that her husband would be upset, why? Cause she was assaulted I don’t think that was what she was getting at, she was worried about something. I don’t know her husband but I do know of husbands who have blamed their wives for things that are not their fault. I don’t know but sue seemed like a really toxic person before this incident, I wouldn’t want to be around her.
@@christinme23 That's very possible. It's entirely possible she was already in some sort of traumatic experience at home. Or not. Her being a negative force on the show doesn't really change what happened. Whether or not Rich pressed up against her, he did at the very least intentionally play nude in order to intimidate, and he made the lewd comment. Trauma is not something that is easy to gauge, and it's not something the brain can typically recognize while it's happening. Sue's 24-hr "delayed" reaction is completely normal. Some victims of sexual assault or harrassment don't process the event until weeks, months, or even years later.
Mac Attack Not the OP, but:
1) It’s not an argument. It’s a fact. Sexual assault is about power, not sex. That’s why it is used as a weapon of war. It’s exerting power over another person and violating their sexual integrity. Every educated and informed academic and legal source will tell you the same.
2) The legal definition.
3) Again - using your sexual organs to intimate other people and make them uncomfortable is the very definition of a sexual offence.
4) The very definition of gaslighting implies you are trying to make people doubt what they know. By trying to paint Sue as “unstable”, Richard is attempting to make her appear less worthy of respect, and human decency - thereby making her more deserving of being sexually harassed and assaulted. Alternatively, he wants people to believe it never happened.
All in all, a disgusting display from a disgusting individual.
i’ve always loved you Richard 💛 i’m so sorry that happened to you, you never deserved that. i support you‼️ God bless
Would you play in a Legends Season 50?
It's a pity that "reality TV" many times suffers from the lack of truthfulness.
Your situation in All Stars was not dealt with the way it should have been. From what I've read on Reddit, Dan Spilo's situation was also not exactly what the audience saw (and the taped reunion was an indicator of that).
Cover-ups only lead to more cover-ups, the same way that lies always lead to more lies.
What really happened?
My mom was a long time fan of yours and even started one of the first survivor forums she loved the show so much! Hang in there Richard!
What was the clanking in the background
Y’all are wrong this guys a creep.
You’re a pussy go pound sand
that challenge was confusing mess. the fact that robs team figured out they could all jump down so rob could run it. just shows it was a mess
I've adored you for 22 years love.
Survivor 40 would have been grand. You are still a class act!
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Love you hatch. Probably my favourite player to play on survivor. Brilliant, entertaining, and a true survivor. I still can’t believe you took a bite from a shark like a champ!
Today I finally watched that episode and it’s so bizarre.
Because I had seen comments talking about the incident. So I was like “let me go watch that season”
And it’s wild because Sue could had gone on the other beam which she was already heading towards but decided to pivot and go back. Which even Boston Rob is also confused and yells “let’s go sue. Head over here” and she was like “no, I want to go that way.” Which made no sense since Richard Hatch was already heading from that way.
Looking from a perspective from now, it’s clear that Richard Hatch should never had been naked, but Survivor never made that part of rules of a pressing issue, considering Hatch and others had done similar stuff in taking clothes off during challenges.
Only Sue know her true intentions, whether it was a way to get back at CBS, or get a pay day, or Sue actually felt affected by it.
But Survivor is just as responsible for allowing the behavior to continue. It was just a wild scenario
Boston Rob said it best on season 8: "Sue could be looking to cash in on a big pay day" WHICH MADE THE EDIT!!!
Even Rupert said it.
She didn't though.She dropped the law suit after CBS paid for counselling sessions.
@@gurutruecrimeguru1405 she said cbs was really nice & helped her deal with the situation
There was another scene where they said that Sue said she was going to sue Richard.. it sounds like she fully intended to do it but maybe when they all met in person to review it her lawyer told her she wouldn't win.. it sounds like she went out of her way to approach him, she could have finished the challenge but for some reason came back, and then he didn't even touch her so suing probably would not have even worked if she had tried to do it.
“I followed all of the rules of the game always” true, but not all the laws of paying taxes on the money....
That's not really relevant though, and he did pay for that in the long run
@@derekwalter4238 it is relevant tho, it’s actually in the contract for game players now
@@davidsobkowiak1175 paying taxes? That says nothing about the sort of player you are, or whether or not you broke or followed rules while filming.
haven't heard this yet but i'm really looking forward to it. thanks Richard!
I saw the incident exactly the way Richard Hatch explains it. I was confused when I watched when it aired for the first time and confused when I recently rewatched the episode! Confused regarding the fact no one spoke up about the fact it was Sue who initiated the whole bizarre incident.
If I was “wrongfully blamed” for sexual harassment and/or assault, I would sue the Network that DID NOT tell the truth, and therefore hurt my brand, and my potential to earn income in the future based on those false accusations.
I thought there was an interview with you and Sue on the early show or something along those lines where it seemed like the whole incident was water under the bridge at that point but I can't find it?
Found Russel on YT and now have landed here. So interesting that I didn’t care for Russel or you in Survivor, but I REALLY enjoy the real people I’m seeing on YT. Maybe my dislike is due to editing and the character CBS chooses to show. Thank you for sharing your side of the story. Subscribing to hear more!
Wow. I always wondered what happened, its amazing that they never bothered to try and clear your name with a statement since they controlled the full amount of footage.
It is reprehensible of them, which is consistent with how they have always mistreated participants.
Didn't you see Sue in Ponderosa after she quit, or did they fly her straight home?
Your wit is just as on-point today as it was 20 years ago. Truly disappointed that you are not on WaW season 40 of Survivor.
Richard I remember watching that first season all the way through. I though you were a very calculated, thoughtful, player always a head of the curve. Out smarting Greg was funny. You are the OG man. Much respect to dude.
Richard, firstly belated condolences for the loss of your friend Rudy Boesch. People often overlook the societal impact the unlikely bond that existed between the two of you achieved. Thank you for posting your very well articulated version of this unfortunate incident. In today's hyper sensitive times, and without discounting anyone's right to feel, we as a society have become way too quick to dismiss that intent does matter and that an actual truth exists. Without getting too far into the weeds on the season 39 situation, there was a five or six scene montage of Dan's touching which did indeed come across to me as creepy, especially when taking into account the context in which it was presented. However, I also came to the conclusion that same night that an editor with the amount of footage they have contestants could create similar montages for most people that have played the game using a collection of completely innocent interactions. Long time fans will remember the Ted and Ghandia incident from Survivor Thailand surrounding contact that occurred as a result of them sleeping next to each other. We were shown Dan draping an arm over a female contestant, etc during the night hours in that montage without being shown if he was even awake and aware of what he was doing. That seems like very reckless editing by CBS to me. I would assume with such close sleeping quarters and with contestants trying to keep each other warm similar interactions are more the norm than not. The early seasons of the show placed more of an emphasis on actual survival than they do now, so I don't really see the need to force contestants to freeze at night in close quarters. Do you have any suggestions for how sleeping arrangements should be handled in future seasons of the show? Perhaps there is enough discussion fodder here on the overall topic to warrant it's own video. My quick take is that although I like to see people tough it out it is probably time to give everyone their own blanket and provide enough materials to create a shelter with adequate space and waterproofing. Thanks for creating your channel and I wish I was watching you on the current season.
Last quick thought, people often dismiss your gameplay in season one as just having come up with the idea of an alliance. The true brilliance of your gameplay was to bring together a diverse collection of individuals morally AGAINST the idea of an alliance and keeping it strong to the end. In addition, the drop from the last immunity challenge was perfect and was light years ahead in strategy from what anyone else had come up with during the early seasons. Well played sir!
This blew my mind
I just saw this episode for the first time. It's nice you have a platform to tell your story. You do have to realize YOUR actions upset her. If you hadn't taken your clothes off and went up on her and made a comment she wouldn't have reacted that way. I think you said "you want some of you this?" Or something like that.. even Jeff was disgusted and said come on guys. I get your intentions weren't bad but it offended her. I don't think most who are sexually assaulted say much in the moment but it eats them alive which is why she freaked out and quit. I get it. It was offensive. I get your side but you have to understand her side too. It was inappropriate & for the love of God, keep your shorts on lol
She could have just went around. She waited for Richard and put herself in that situation. Richard just reacted to her.
As for Sue’s FTC speech, I think she got too emotionally close to Kelly. I recall her saying something about a death of a female close to her (can’t remember if it was a family member or a friend), and I think she felt so betrayed by Kelly. I think she definitely was emotionally unstable, and I don’t know if it was responsible of producers to let her back on.
Richard Hatch. You are a legend. From Your fans in South Africa 🇿🇦😎💯🙌
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Hey Hatch! Too bad you are not on the Winners at War season. You should be. I always thought you were fun to watch and brought so much to the game. Hope to see you in future seasons!
Let’s see all the film, it’s the only way we can make an informed decision.
4 years after winners at war, and yeah. I think Richard has a great point about him being the scapegoat for CBS. If they really thought he was who the show portrayed him to be, then they wouldn't of ever even considered inviting him back.
Well said
Why don't you post videos anymore
Love you, God bless you! You have been will always be one of my very favorites. I have always believed in you and totally agree, we hear you! Reality does matter. We must remember at the end of the day the editing is in their hands and it is about how they can make money over the drama of all cast members. ❤️❤️❤️
I think the reason you were cut was because of season 39. Now they have to take extra precautions because of all the things that happened. Also it now unfortunately might be because of the criminal record and I really hate to say it, again because of season 39
CBS has a disaster of a season and times have changed. They needed to play it safe for this season. It sucks we didn’t get to see Haych, but is the reality right now.
Hi Richard, sorry this might be irrelevant but have you made a video detailing how you guys live on the island in terms of hygiene. I'm so curious about whether you guys use deodorant and body lotion and lipbalm etc.
I’m just a fan but I’ve heard they don’t have access to tooth brushes and toothpaste or deoderant, but they have access to tampons, sunscreen and condoms
gutted that you and cochran aren't playing this season!
Cochran doesn't want to come back
Forever the king of survivor. What a waste for the show not to invite you for 40. 🥺🥺🥺 a complete legend!!!!
Maria Sli he was invited but got turned down
you are right Rich!!!
I just got done watching season 1 and you created survivor! If you had actually did something wrong I would hope that CBS would have never talked to you again. What they aired is purposely confusing. Even Jeff’s reaction to Sue is like “ she is making this up” best of luck to you !
Can you put french subtitles ? 😜
Russel hanz rant you on a video
Do a response
I would love to see Richard Hatch play again. Big respect.
Just got banned from survivor Reddit for trying to explain what was apparent in the edit to me: YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY.
I was kicked off of Survivor Reddit as well for expressing my own benign opinion. It’s a toxic echo chamber that does not allow for any disagreement. Deviate from their narrative, you get downvoted your oblivion or worse, shadowbanned where you can post, but no one can see it. They will reap what they sow in karma.