Stonehenge's central stone 'didn't come from Wales' as previously thought
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- The Altar Stone at the centre of Stonehenge was brought 500 miles from northern Scotland - not Wales, as was previously thought - according to new research, adding to the mystery of the Neolithic site.
Geological fingerprinting has revealed the six-tonne stone almost certainly came from the Orcadian Basin, a rock deposit stretching north from Inverness up to the Orkney Islands.
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Don’t tell the Scot’s they’ll want it back.
Don't tell the snp westminsters fault or brexit or covid or racism or islamaphobia now the far right 😂
Grow up!
I just checked it’s already on eBay
No, the paleolithic Orcadians are (or were) the ones with the claim to its return. And I haven't heard a peep out of them on the subject. (And by the way, we are Scots).
😂😂😂
So not African artisans? Damn I'm stunned
Or aliens from some distant galaxy?
Give it time, information is still new and hasn't been culturally appropriated by muricans
British Rail did it when we the people owned it.
And boy were they crap it
British Rail was supposed to ship it to Brighton, and this is what happened.
@@T5Zplayer the rails are far worse now that’s absolutely certain
We'd still be waiting if BR were supposed to bring it. They'd be still drinking tea and reading the Mirror.
we would still be waiting for it if BR had anything to do with it, they would be striking and wanting enhanced payments from freezing pensioners.
It wont be long before they tell us it was dragged over from Africa.
By Africans who are the original British no doubt 😅.
@@markmorrid8144 Only indirectly. Africans are the original Africans. The original Brits came from Scandinavia, continental Europe and the Iberian peninsula. Immigrants all of them. Everyone in the world is a descendant of an immigrant except anyone whose ancestors never left Central Africa. Apologies for using modern geographical names which didn't exist back then, I wouldn't like to cause any more confusion than we already have.
Too true 😂
@charcolew we don't all have a common ancestor.
Closer than Scotland
The more we dig the more we realise we've grossly underestimated our prehistoric ancestors. They were advanced in their own way, it's the only explanation for stone henge and many other prehistoric monuments worldwide.
No they were not advanced in their own way, the aliens designed it but humans moved the rocks.
They did this world wide 40,000 year ago.
The Bible tells us that before Noah's flood people lived almost 1000 years. That is a lot of time to learn how to do a lot of things. I also think that people had more practical intelligence back then.
Theres another option history gives that academia dorsnt like. Read the epic of gilgamesh.
Ancient civilizations were far more advanced and interconnected than we can imagine. Ancient ruins were constructed with technologies we can't duplicate today. The official Giza Plateau history is absolute garbage. The ancient world was far more complicated the more we discover.
@@MakerBoyOldBoy but stonehenge is only about 5ooo yrs old. Its nowhere near as old as Giza which presents 3 separate ancient buildings sites. 1 undergrnd. 1 above ground which the Grt Pyrmd was built over.
500 miles? Brought from Scotland on foot by Proclaimers I hope? I am sure they would be happy to walk 500 miles more.
Just to be the one that walks 500 hundred miles to lay this rock on glasto tor xD
Come on surely the best comment here.
Da-da da da
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Ya taties! 😂
The BBC said in was flown in from Wakanda
Not from krypton?🤣
The BBC blamed it on the Far right..
aliens, i told u it was aliens
😂😂😂
I wouldn't believe anything MSM says.
Monty Python………. Couldn’t we find one closer?!
Sturgeon towed it with her motorhome.
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It was fandabidozie 😂😂
Towed it with her flapps
Aw Jesus the SNP will say England stole it 🙄😂
Who knows, maybe the guy from Inverness was selling them 2 for 1
It came from Orkney. The temple at Ness of Brodgar was then the centre of their religion.
Nope. It was dropped by a glacier. Some druids said it looked mystical. They built a temple round it.
whose religion?
Came here to comment on this. Ness of Brodgar was abandoned and they took a piece of it with them to build Stonehenge so it has the same properties
@@robinac6897 literally says not in the article, science guy said so.
Stonehenge has undergone significant restoration work in the 20th century. While the original construction of Stonehenge dates back to around 3000-2000 BCE, many of the stones had fallen or were leaning by the early 20th century. In the early 1900s, efforts were made to re-erect some of the fallen stones and stabilize others. In 1901, the first major restoration saw one of the large sarsen stones re-erected. Further restoration work continued throughout the 20th century, including in the 1950s and 1960s, to ensure the stones were securely placed and to prevent further deterioration
Boloocks innit
@@iliyazahariev3748 Well it's not exactly authentic
Yes preservation work had to be undertaken but still authentic.
@@hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo Re-erecting fallen stones is not preservation, it's a refurbishment
These stones were clearly brought there by glaciers. Similar stone deposits have been found elsewhere in Ireland England Scotland and Wales. They were transported, just not by people
That does make more sense.
I thought the same thing just reading the title..."Wales" is just defined by a line on a map.
Surely these stones could have been moved through glacial drift over millions of years?
Clearly? This is one of the problems with social media, people stating their opinions as facts. Quote from article, "The scientists are confident the Altar Stone was deliberately transported, not carried south by glaciers during an ice age."
Makes sense.
Of course why didn't I think of that. Wiltshire would have had an ice wall a mile tall at one point. The glaciers melted and receded very suddenly between 10,500 and 9,500 BC. Everything they had picked up from further north would have been dropped further south.
We are able to say if a meteorit was from mars 1 mil years ago but not able to say from where the stones where taken on an island...Great!
I mean a meteorite Mars I probably way different than the difference between Scotland and Wales.
Don't trust anything scientists say.
It probably got shifted about in the ice age along with millions of tons of ice. Plonked down somewhere much closer to where Stonehenge is now. No big mystery really.
It's possible that the rocks were already close by when people found them, most likely they were frozen in glaciers during the last ice age and over time the glaciers shifted over the land carrying the rocks along within them before melting further south.
It's a far more plausible explanation than primitive people popping up to Scotland somehow knowing there are rocks fit for their intended purpose there and shifting them for hundreds of miles without any mapping system, we had enough trouble getting 200lb slate rocks off of a welsh mountain and into the back of a Ford Escort van for use in a garden.
Our ancestors were brilliant bad asses!
thats not new. We was told that on a school trip in the 1970s
Dinosaurs moved the stones there 🤦🏼♀️
Yep... Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble supervised the dinosaurs.
they would have need 6 titansaurs to move that lol
Fred flinston used one of his dinosaurs 🦕 to transport it! I thought everyone knew that !!??
Could be the remains of barney's car. 😅
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What rubbish, he’s an American
@@nigelliam153 😂😂
A 6 ton rock the length of britain? Crikey, must have been super thin.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the stones are from All four corners of Great(er) Britton and are erected as a form of a spell/wish/ prayer for the unity of the island/ people of the island.?????
Kind of like when we say “ it’s not written in stone” … so maybe it was something like “ for as long as these stones stand” ????
It would make sense that stones from the far west and far north make connections to those important celestial points. Stonehenge is also pretty much due south of the north-south line of the Pennines.
It wasn't transported. The central altar stone was likely already there, and the henge was built around it. The stone was likely picked up further north and deposited where it lays during the last ice age as the glacial ice flowed south, and then later melted. Glacial ice is capable of encapsulating and moving huge multi ton stones as it moves.
Is it possible the stone was carried closer to Wales/England by a glacier thousands of years ago? And then transported to Stonehenge from there
No! It's the same type of stone that was used in a stone circle in northern Scotland.
Clearly Aliens involved 👽
They designed but not built.
Has to be. Or we were extremely advanced back then. I love it how they say "ancient and primitive people" when these "scientists" haven't heard of gwebekli tepe in turkey, which completely alters history
@@user-xw3co8kc4y The dagger found on Tutankhamun gets me only steel similar is found in moon rock and someone still manage to forge it years before steel was discovered. So called scientists calling them primitive is a joke 🙄🙄
Perhaps there's a veneration connection between this site and the Hebridian Stone Circles like using a piece of an old ship in the construction of a new ship of the line to join, symbolically, the old with the new?
I think these rocks were probably pushed to this area by an ice age. On the plains of Canada hundreds of miles from the mountains, there are huge boulders bigger than Stone henge. I think its an unrealistic idea that man moved these rocks by hand. People like fantasies.
Back then when Stonehenge was built the people of what is now Scotland were the same in Wales, they were native British, or brithonic. There was no England or Scotland, Wales was cymru. So no surprise that the stone came from Scotland. Look at many of the names in what is Scotland. Aberdeen, for one look at Wales aberdare, abertawe, aberdulias, get it. Over the last century, what's called Scotland was settled by the Irish, the Scotty tribes, who spoke Gaelic, similar to Irish Gaelic, because it is the same language. Then we had the Saxon's from Germany, Who became the English. The British moved west to what now is called Welsh, how ironic that the British were called, Welsh a saxon word to denote foreigners, when in reality they were the natives and the English were the foreigners.
Spot on, it's all designed to de-legitimise the earlier and far older culture, there is a saying in acadenia, attribute any and all finds to anyone but the pre-Anglo British.
All about de-legitimisation of the Britons.
Stonehenge wasn’t built by the Celts, it was built by the people who lived in Britain before them.
The henge was constructed sometime around 2500 BCE, the Celts are believed to have arrived in Britain sometime between 1000-500 BCE.
many of the welsh came from Ireland
WOW, it looked so original. But then I found out that it was at one point completely dismantled and reassembled with concrete holding the segments in place.
In the 1950s
there's a vid on YT showing it
The original site of the Welsh stones has recently been discovered. Definitely transported by man to Stonehenge not glaciers.
not man but the GIANTS ...
we want it back
Dream on its staying where it is.😂
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Maybe it was a glacial erratic that the builders found on site. The Kaaba at Mecca was built over a pagan temple that was built around a meteorite, why not Stonehenge on an unusual rock left by a retreating glacier?
Exactly, the stone could have come south by way of Glacial Movement. It cannot be said categorically, that the stone was moved by human hand
Obviously a glacier.... Stonehenge was just a load of rocks scattered around and tidied up
It’s amazing how much they know about these stones I call BS
Considering the regression in intelligence and the rise in downright stupidity over recent decades the people who built Stonehenge were probably geniuses beyond modern comprehension.
Spot on. A case of lost knowledge. 👍
Finally a scientific explanation 😂
Glaciers have moved stones much larger.
"Glacial erratics are large boulders moved and then left behind by glacial retreat and are dissimilar to the immediate local geology.
Big Rock” near Okotoks, south of Calgary. It is about the size of a 12 unit apartment building."
the africans will say they built it
I am black but it was built by ancient brits but designed by aliens.
The BBC will say it was built by whoever the current flavour of "victim" is.
Nonsense
Netflix and Disney guys are brushing their teeth right now 😅😅😅
Was it not pushed down with the advancing ice with the last ice age and when it melted was it left there?
Sounds more likely
Nope.
While ice extent moved south, the ice itself only ever flowed down hill. Just like every glacier ever.
No glaciers haven’t been that far south for thousands of years before stone hedge was built
What, all the various rocks and stones somehow met up at the site that became Stonehenge? It wasn't a paleolithic rock festival ffs!
The ice sheet never reached that far south. So no.
So the people of Scotland at the time just allowed a bunch of total strangers to steal a large stone from the Inverness area and leave these people at the time fought with their nearest neighbours
There was no Scotland at this time. The Scotti would not invade from Ireland until almost 2 thousand years later and then colonize the land and name it after themselves.
The Scottish were still in Ireland waiting for the Romans to leave and invaded near the same time as the Vikings.
@@Flintlockon The people of Britain during this time period are generally referred to simply as Neolithic farmers, and they predate even the Beaker peoples, who had brought more advanced technology with their gradual migration from central Europe. It was Beakers that built Stonehenge up, but neither did they originally construct basis nor can they be adequately used to describe whatever people were inhabiting Scotland at the time. Due to geography it's possible to theorize, before each successive wave of migration had filled out their population, they were something more related to the preceding wave or just another people or culture entirely. Needless to say, by the time of the Celts, we can see the Caledonians emerge as a recognized people in modern Scotland at this time, but the waters are muddied by some inscriptions referring to people in this area as Picts in the 3rd century.
Successful Scoti (Irish) migration and conquest in Great Britain, which began after the Romans (though many attempts were made beforehand,) but well before Viking raids, was later subsumed by a larger Pictish Kingdom under Angus I, making the case for a definitive Pictish land by at least 8th century. With the introduction of Latin after centuries of gradual Christianization dating back to the Roman period, but especially after the arrival of Irish monks in the 6th century, the Pictish people began referring to themselves as Scoti collectively, as in keeping with the trend of referring to Gaels as Scots started by the Romans, which was originally used to refer to all Celts, but later became synonymous with Northern Gaels, or the people of Pictland. By the 10th century, the people described themselves as Scottish.
It should be noted that the Neolithic farmers of Britain during this time were themselves preceded by another people, often referred to as Mesolithic Britons, and they did not use agriculture, and so pockets of their way of life may have still existed all over Britain and Ireland even after the people who first constructed Stronehenge arrived. Scotland was likely a mishmash of the genetics and cultures of several people already by the time, with numerous tribes vying for regional supremacy, as always.
OK , but could a glacier carried it down and dumped it in England. Similar happens elsewhere.
No.
That has not happened anywhere.
Glaciers only flow down hill.
Awesome. It is amazing what people back then could do with no technology.
But why? 🤷 That's the important question than "from where?" or "by whom?" or "how?"
It was hamas
Couldn't it have been moved a large part of the way by glacial action, some time before, and discovered and moved the rest of the way, for use at Stonehenge?
What a load of complete nonsense and lies
The ancient Egyptians were moving thousand- tonne stones the same distance over mountain ranges... And we can't even make a credible guess 'how'. History is a mysterious mistress.
I'd say , it was brought by ice sheets, then melted out, but I suppose that's too simple.
Is it possible that the stone was carried thousands of years ago by a Glacier down from scotland to the general area of Wales? Prehaps they also transported it from Wales along with the other rocks?
It’s not so amazing when that’s all there was for people back then.
No 9-5 job, no business to run, no tv etc….
Omg people are so stupid. Thinking that we humans dragged these stones from all over the country. “We” didn’t. Something else’s did.
Stupid sells. Good science doesn't 🤷
Same in egypt,in lebanon, in the andes where stones weighting hundred of tons were transported hundred of miles and erected 10 feet in the air , and they want us to believe our ancestors did it while it would be a challenge today for us..wake up people.
They built it just after the last ice age and i would imagine there would be large erratics scattered,especially being near the edge of the ice sheet.
Yes, and the evidence is all around and has been demonstrated for 140 years.
If I were paid to build this structure, I would find a quarry. I would find a hill next to the quarry. I dug holes for rocks at the top of the hill. I would set all the stones according to the shape of the building. I would remove all the earth into the neighboring ravine.
So your proclaiming it travelled 500 miles, dah dah dat dah
No one said the stones came from Wales. There was no Wales nor a Scotland when the stones were brought over.
Why are they forgetting the UK was covered in ice and could have easily picked the rock up and deposited it local to Stone Henge site before it was built.
How are they not understanding glaciers moved it that far? 12,000 years ago left there or nearby
Because glaciation isn't sexy or newsworthy🤨
Bro, imagine the price of building materials in England in the past, if they had to bring it all the way from Scotland!
Dan Davis tells us that cattle were a very important part of Neolithic life, even more important than crop agriculture. He also says there is very good evidence that cattle were herded from northern Scotland all the way 0:38 to Stonehenge for ceremonial purposes. Trained cattle could likely have pulled the stone??
Wherever it came from, it’s fricking AMAZING & I hope one day in my lifetime we unlock some of it’s mysteries 🪨🩶
Signs by which one can determine belonging to Christianity. 1 Entrance from the east, altar to the west. 2 The pulpit in the center of the church. 3 Location of the building in the southern part of the island. 4 The round shape hints at a round dome, and this is the church of the east.
This was created a good 2,500+ years before Christianity. Christianity must've copied that stuff from paganism, as it did other things.
Could have been left there trapped in a giant ice flow during the last ice and left there when it melted just saying.
That altar stone could have made its way down Britain over hundreds of years being moved from place to place as one tribe defeated another and took it as a trophy.
It came from Chicago. They needed to replace it when the Griswolds knocked it over, so the city donated their stones to replace them.
This would have been impossible if these cave men had been unionised
This is the most mysterious henge. More work must be done.
I think the biggest mystery from this revelation is...
Did these ancient people write "I'm Gonna Be (500 miles)" before the Proclaimers?
Hot air ship secrets they don’t want us to know
Could it have been a boulder that was moved by a glacier in the ice-age?
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Everything we know tells us they weren't using primitive tools nor that they were primitive people
Probably dropped by glacier when they retreated
It is a great mystery why they would haul certain rocks over tremendous distances. WHY???
Some of the oldest henges are from Scotland, so it would seem natural to give a henge in England the energy from an older henge in Scotland. Just as how newer churches use 'corner' stones from an older church. Even in 1666 in my ancestral book a fire brand clergy members church was along side St Pauls and touched it to gain religious strength. (And yes it burnt down in 1666 and was never rebuilt).
Scottish going to demand money now from all the entrance fees
It probably originally sat there by itself after being deposited by a glacier. The people there probably thought it looked mystical and built the temple around it.
Glaciers flow down hill.
@@dougaltolan3017 And when they recede they flow uphill do they?
@@robinac6897 no, pretty much the same way rivers don't flow up hill when they dry out.
@@dougaltolan3017Glaciers can flow uphill, even thousands of feet.
The ancients were just as intelligent as we are now but without the technology.
What's shocking is they didn't find this out sooner. So rocks come from different areas. Who cares. I bet my tiles come from far far away.
It must have been an ice age erratic, transported south as a result of glacial shifts, depositing the stone miles from it's original location, which is something that's occurred with many other finds not in-situ
Imagine if the Egyptian antiquities were this honest about the pyramids!
how do we know its an alter stone
It said so on the label "Alter Stone Made in Scotland" 😂
Our ancient British ancestors were amazing!
Probs the third one that’s sat there since the 60’s
Could it be a Glacial Erratic?
So stonhenge was a truly British act of cooperation.
Everyone chipped in.
Now the Scots would say no.
Devils advocate Scottish reply...
Cooperation?
More like the sasenachs stealing it.
There was no "chipping" in. The Scoti arrived in Britain 2000 years after its construction. The closest living culture would belong to the people of Wales as the descendants of the First Britons.
There was no English Welsh or Scottish 5000 year ago
It's the Stone of Destiny all over again. Er. Before.
That was my first thought.
My best guess is that there was a temple in Scotland, then they wanted to relocate it and brought this stone from there cus it had special significance to them.
They used dinosaurs like in the Flintstones we will be told next.
this was changed in the 1950 to whet ever it is now
Perhaps they better able to transport things without all the potholes to negotiate
What is shocking here? The news is being presented in such a way as if the rocks came from Mars.
Why does the title contain the word "shocking"? I would say "fascinating " or "awe inspiring feat". I get tired of all the "shocking" videos doing the rounds. I am not shocked.
Nevertheless, I am in awe of this megalith, how it was built, and why.
Nonsense
Could it have moved down to Wales via glaciers?
Gee wizz gang! I thought there was something iffy about this rock
people living at the time Stonehenge was erected were closely associated with gobekli tepe..... they were people from Iberia who migrated from there...
The sign of a UK before the official resignation of the UK?