For me, Denon has a more condensed sound and more musical. Audiolab has a flabby, indifferent sound. I prefer Denon!🎶Thank you for the nice presentation.
@Simon W Erm, okay, how presumpuous can a person be ? How can you be so arrogant to assume I am using a tablet , headphones ? Fool. If you havve nothing constructive to offer, dont bother.
If the audiolab had tone controls, I would have bought it, Instead have the Denon ( new) miles cheaper as well, have it with matching used DCD 800 player, for less that the cost of the audiolab, superb sounding combo👍
I love this channel as a concept, but hate that the same clip of the song isn't played twice back to back so you can actually compare the sounds. The way the clip plays through, but swaps units makes it harder to hear differences.
Audiolab has better dynamics and more clear sound better midrange as well…..denon is not bad a bit laid back not as clear muddy upper bass…..but its ok
If you hear music while sitting down you will prefer the Audiolab..., sounds more open to midrange, ...but if your body moves.., then you need the fuller sound of the Denon! There is not bad or good is how you prefer to hear music and the type of music ...
I own both of these amps, will try to add my input after more time with them. I stumbled on this video while trying to find a comparison between the Rotel A11 Tribute and Audiolab 6000A
I have both of these amps - bought brand new. The Denon PMA 800 NE is way better - Fuller sound, fantastic detail, sound stage, clarity, body, presence. In comparison the 6000A sounds thin, unengaging, underpowered. I also have the Cambridge CXA81 and that sounds much better than the 6000A (nowhere did I find a definite answer to this when I was looking for it before buying them). However the Denon is fantastic for the price and keeps getting better. Jazz played through the Denon sounds as if the musicians are in the room and nuances are so clear. The Cambridge has a more balanced sound and Fuller across the spectrum but lacks tone controls. I also had a brand new Hegel H190 (3999 USD) - returned that because my Marantz PM 6006 (my favorite of all amps) blew it out of the water at one thirteenth of it's price. The Denon and Audiolab don't even compare to the Marantz which is better on every aspect and cost me a half and a third of the Denon and the Audiolab respectively.
I am heavily considering the Audiolab 6000A for Polk R200 or Wharfedale Diamonds 12.2. After seeing your comment on the Denon PMA 800NE, I'm surprised, normally people would suggest the Audiolab 6000A. I don't like think sounding amplifier, is the PMA 800NE that much better? Seeing as they are much more affordable, they look pretty tempting.
@@principalsecretaryudpa4781 I bought all of the following different amplifiers - all brand new - and compared them for about 3 months. Here are my rankings in terms of sound quality. I like a full bodied sound with clarity but not harshness. I did not care much for soundstage earlier but after hearing some of these amps have grown to appreciate it. Here's from best to worst in terms of sound quality w.r.t my preference: 1. Marantz PM 7000N (best clarity and definition in the upper and mid ranges (almost audiophile) without being harsh - full bodied and punchy (without being boomy)). Only drawback is the Heios application which is the worst streaming application I have used (I have used a few streaming platforms - Bluesound OS (the best), Volumio (ok but lacking but still better than Heios), PlayFi (lacking but better than Heios), Heios (the worst)) 2. Marantz PM 6007 (maybe overall my favorite, beautiful balance, musicality, clarity, definition and soothing) 3. SVS Soundbase - best class D sound. One of the best for electronic music. Very small footprint, uses PlayFi application which is much better than the Marantz/Denon Heios application and can play from a large variety of streaming sources. Fantastic for the price. One of my best buys. 4. Denon PMA 800 NE (best soundstage (best for jazz) but lacking in midrange clarity and punch (not much good for rock, electronic music)) 5. Cambridge Audio AXR 100 (best value, good sound, features (tone controls, connectivity), price) 6. Cambridge CXA-81 - good but can be too forward and tiring with lack of tone controls 7. Audiolab 6000 A - extremely underwhelming and unimpressive. Thin sound - not full bodied at all (compared to the above) 8. Hegel H190 - absolute disaster at 4000 USD. Absolutely 0 base/bass. Everything else in this list sounds way better. I don't know what the hype about Hegel is about. Maybe it takes 2000 hours to break in as the salesmen would tell you but I do not know and could not take the risk of keeping it beyond the return period. I played it for several days and there was no 'opening up' of the sound at all
@@debashishmitra Thanks for the input, I have gone ahead with the Topping E50 and Topping PA5 stack to drive the polks r200 for now. Hopefully, they sound as good as advertised/reviewed. I will also consider getting the Marantz PM6007 + Wharfedale Diamonds 12.2 for another room. Thanks.
@@eprojectEllie I have a similar feeling. The amps should sound more different. If you are demoing amps, you should get neutral speakers to showcase the difference between the amps. I am no speaker expert, but some research will definitely bring up a good pair of neutral speakers.
It's nice to know that you have so much money you consider an $800 amp a budget model. FYI, many people would find it a stretch to spend $800 on their whole system. This is what's ruining the audio hobby, that people think $800 amps and $1000 speakers are entry level and budget models
@@DougMen1 The price of a speaker / amplifier cannot be an indicator for general quality that you can expect in that price region. In my opinion it is misleading for the consumer when a product gets classified by it's price (e.g. 1000 euros - upper class; 500 euros - mid / budget class but best quality you will find under 500 euros) and not by it's performance.
The Denon's fine. A bit average. The Audiolab has a slightly smoother tonal balance, a touch more dynamics and a textural..creaminess.. lets say, the Denon can't match.
Tested pma800ne with kef towers in shop sound ok but nothing to write home about. Back home paired it with my paradigm studio 100v1 towers. Sounds louder cleaner not like in shop.
Chociaż audio lab wygląda jak gówno, to lepiej gra niż Pioneer. Szkoda że zrobiliście to na kolumnach z których nie ma basu nic. Zamiast na podłogówkach jakiś.
For me, Denon has a more condensed sound and more musical.
Audiolab has a flabby, indifferent sound. I prefer Denon!🎶Thank you for the nice presentation.
Audiolab, even with just hearing it on a youtube channel, different class.
@Simon W Erm, okay, how presumpuous can a person be ? How can you be so arrogant to assume I am using a tablet , headphones ? Fool. If you havve nothing constructive to offer, dont bother.
If the audiolab had tone controls, I would have bought it, Instead have the Denon ( new) miles cheaper as well, have it with matching used DCD 800 player, for less that the cost of the audiolab, superb sounding combo👍
Owned the Audiolab for a few months , Bass is very light , Tone controls needed
Denon seems fuller in the low frequencies
The 6000A seems towards the bright side
I love this channel as a concept, but hate that the same clip of the song isn't played twice back to back so you can actually compare the sounds. The way the clip plays through, but swaps units makes it harder to hear differences.
Audiolab, особенно во втором треке, звучит значительно богаче и изящнее, его бас просто поражает!
audiolab更好的清晰度 目前这个品牌中国设计制造并且控股 中国好声音
Audiolab has better dynamics and more clear sound better midrange as well…..denon is not bad a bit laid back not as clear muddy upper bass…..but its ok
If you hear music while sitting down you will prefer the Audiolab..., sounds more open to midrange, ...but if your body moves.., then you need the fuller sound of the Denon! There is not bad or good is how you prefer to hear music and the type of music ...
Denon is clear, brings guitar details even through youtube.
I own both of these amps, will try to add my input after more time with them. I stumbled on this video while trying to find a comparison between the Rotel A11 Tribute and Audiolab 6000A
Same here. Just bought an Audiolabs 6000a for a ridiculous low price. Sharing your experiences is much appreciated.
And? Some news?
hi whats your verdict, I just got the 800ne?
I'd really be interested In your opinion since I would like to buy an amp for my meta's but am. unsure which of the two is better
I prefer the Audiolab 6000A in my system. More balanced sound, clean.
I have both of these amps - bought brand new. The Denon PMA 800 NE is way better - Fuller sound, fantastic detail, sound stage, clarity, body, presence. In comparison the 6000A sounds thin, unengaging, underpowered. I also have the Cambridge CXA81 and that sounds much better than the 6000A (nowhere did I find a definite answer to this when I was looking for it before buying them). However the Denon is fantastic for the price and keeps getting better. Jazz played through the Denon sounds as if the musicians are in the room and nuances are so clear. The Cambridge has a more balanced sound and Fuller across the spectrum but lacks tone controls. I also had a brand new Hegel H190 (3999 USD) - returned that because my Marantz PM 6006 (my favorite of all amps) blew it out of the water at one thirteenth of it's price. The Denon and Audiolab don't even compare to the Marantz which is better on every aspect and cost me a half and a third of the Denon and the Audiolab respectively.
I am heavily considering the Audiolab 6000A for Polk R200 or Wharfedale Diamonds 12.2. After seeing your comment on the Denon PMA 800NE, I'm surprised, normally people would suggest the Audiolab 6000A. I don't like think sounding amplifier, is the PMA 800NE that much better? Seeing as they are much more affordable, they look pretty tempting.
@@principalsecretaryudpa4781 I bought all of the following different amplifiers - all brand new - and compared them for about 3 months. Here are my rankings in terms of sound quality. I like a full bodied sound with clarity but not harshness. I did not care much for soundstage earlier but after hearing some of these amps have grown to appreciate it. Here's from best to worst in terms of sound quality w.r.t my preference:
1. Marantz PM 7000N (best clarity and definition in the upper and mid ranges (almost audiophile) without being harsh - full bodied and punchy (without being boomy)). Only drawback is the Heios application which is the worst streaming application I have used (I have used a few streaming platforms - Bluesound OS (the best), Volumio (ok but lacking but still better than Heios), PlayFi (lacking but better than Heios), Heios (the worst))
2. Marantz PM 6007 (maybe overall my favorite, beautiful balance, musicality, clarity, definition and soothing)
3. SVS Soundbase - best class D sound. One of the best for electronic music. Very small footprint, uses PlayFi application which is much better than the Marantz/Denon Heios application and can play from a large variety of streaming sources. Fantastic for the price. One of my best buys.
4. Denon PMA 800 NE (best soundstage (best for jazz) but lacking in midrange clarity and punch (not much good for rock, electronic music))
5. Cambridge Audio AXR 100 (best value, good sound, features (tone controls, connectivity), price)
6. Cambridge CXA-81 - good but can be too forward and tiring with lack of tone controls
7. Audiolab 6000 A - extremely underwhelming and unimpressive. Thin sound - not full bodied at all (compared to the above)
8. Hegel H190 - absolute disaster at 4000 USD. Absolutely 0 base/bass. Everything else in this list sounds way better. I don't know what the hype about Hegel is about. Maybe it takes 2000 hours to break in as the salesmen would tell you but I do not know and could not take the risk of keeping it beyond the return period. I played it for several days and there was no 'opening up' of the sound at all
@@debashishmitra Thanks for the input, I have gone ahead with the Topping E50 and Topping PA5 stack to drive the polks r200 for now. Hopefully, they sound as good as advertised/reviewed. I will also consider getting the Marantz PM6007 + Wharfedale Diamonds 12.2 for another room. Thanks.
@@principalsecretaryudpa4781 That's great. Congrats. I would be interested to know how the toppings did. They measure so well in the tests
@@debashishmitra Will surely let you know my first impression once I get them.
First song be matched in strength，second song audiolab win,please compare with naim,thanks!
Denon is cleaner and more natural
awesome! cambridge vs Audiolab & Denon if possible in the future. thanks!
I’d love to see the Cambridge or an NAD against the Audiolab on the LS50 Meta!
foblivio Cambridge cxa81/61 vs Audiolab please
Denon
The KEF are restricting the performance of any Amps played through it , pls get speakers that are more neutral.
thanks for your concern. do you have something in your mind?
@@eprojectEllie I have a similar feeling. The amps should sound more different. If you are demoing amps, you should get neutral speakers to showcase the difference between the amps. I am no speaker expert, but some research will definitely bring up a good pair of neutral speakers.
I want to hear Yamaha R-N303 and Rotel A11 head to head. I think a lot of us are interesed in budget amps.
Especially the Rotel A11 Tribute, which has been improved by Ken Ischiwata.
It's nice to know that you have so much money you consider an $800 amp a budget model. FYI, many people would find it a stretch to spend $800 on their whole system. This is what's ruining the audio hobby, that people think $800 amps and $1000 speakers are entry level and budget models
@@DougMen1 The price of a speaker / amplifier cannot be an indicator for general quality that you can expect in that price region. In my opinion it is misleading for the consumer when a product gets classified by it's price (e.g. 1000 euros - upper class; 500 euros - mid / budget class but best quality you will find under 500 euros) and not by it's performance.
@@DougMen1 What speaker-amplifier combination (bookshelf speakers) would you recommend for at most 1000 euros?
Like Denons sound...
On Did It To Myself the Audiolab sounds a lot punchier, and the Denon sounds lackluster, somewhat recessed, flat, and lacking dynamics
The Denon's fine. A bit average. The Audiolab has a slightly smoother tonal balance, a touch more dynamics and a textural..creaminess.. lets say, the Denon can't match.
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6000A better than 800NE for metal
I use it for metal. The denon in comparison is a toy, you can see from the construction and from what is inside
Audiolab is shit
I want to hear Denon PMA 800NE vs Rega Brio.
Audiolab 6000a vs Rotel A12 ???
Denon is the winner, this time !
Which one is warmer and darker ? Which one is more open ?
Audiolab clear winner with better dynamics, please compare the 6000A to Cambridge CXA61 and/or NAD C368 - that could be close!
I will do very soon. thanks for your support!
What your opinion? Who is the best?
Not much of a differens. The Denon is cheaper, nearly half the price, so Denon wins.
Tested pma800ne with kef towers in shop sound ok but nothing to write home about.
Back home paired it with my paradigm studio 100v1 towers.
Sounds louder cleaner not like in shop.
Should’ve compared it the Denton 1600ne. Audiolab 6000 is superior here.
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the denon is a toy
Audiolab 6000A is cleaner and more in control but KEF LS50 Meta can not scale it. These KEFs are very poor speakers, horrible speakers in fact!
La Kef a une sonorité qui n'est pas la plus courante. Avec du rock l'Audiolab est plus crédible.
Denon provides no bass. Audiolab is in other league way up.
Put some xtz 99.25 on that audiolab and then you have a class act ..
LS50 wouldn't get a look in ...
The sound is the same. So I would decide because of the optic.
C'est la bande son de chez Mc Donald's ?
It's the elitist snob soundtrack.
KEF Meta sucks big times! Overly rated!!
no difference!
Chociaż audio lab wygląda jak gówno, to lepiej gra niż Pioneer. Szkoda że zrobiliście to na kolumnach z których nie ma basu nic. Zamiast na podłogówkach jakiś.
the denon is a toy you can already see from the construction and from what it has inside.
Denon is far better more deep sound melodic and with more power
Denon