The Greatest Move in Chess History - Or So They Say

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    Follow MprooV on Twitter / mproovapp #agadmator The 15th annual Linares Super Tournament, held from February 21st to March 10th, 1998 was a Category XXI event. Seven of the world's top players, including the World Champion, competed in a double round robin format. The participants were (in order of Elo): Garry Kasparov (2825), Vladimir Kramnik (2790), Vishwanathan Anand (2770), Veselin Topalov (2740), Vassily Ivanchuk (2740), Alexei Shirov (2710), and Peter Svidler (2690). Anand won clear first with a performance rating of 2840!
    Veselin Aleksandrov Topalov vs Alexey Shirov
    "Troublesome Priest" (game of the day Mar-14-2016)
    Linares (1998), Linares ESP, rd 10, Mar-04
    Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange Variation (D85)
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  • @ownagesniper1
    @ownagesniper1 Před 4 lety +2547

    This guy goes so deep into the hypothetical situations that i forget lol

    • @nicolasfranco9749
      @nicolasfranco9749 Před 4 lety +9

      Mark lmao!! Same

    • @fletchercalderbank8498
      @fletchercalderbank8498 Před 4 lety +189

      Mark It stays in the hypothetical line for so long that I actually think its the real line

    • @imnotabotrlyimnot
      @imnotabotrlyimnot Před 4 lety +140

      Yeah, when he finally gets back to the actual game it makes me feel like I do when I'm driving and realize I've been day dreaming for the last five miles.

    • @colingraham1585
      @colingraham1585 Před 4 lety +1

      Like giving us a couple of questions to decide whether or not we want to pause the video lol

    • @yanousse3217
      @yanousse3217 Před 4 lety

      Same lmao

  • @NeyoBearGaming
    @NeyoBearGaming Před 4 lety +3178

    I literally guessed the move because I thought of the most counter-intuitive move possible.

    • @gonzalo4658
      @gonzalo4658 Před 4 lety +56

      preach.

    • @StormKillzone
      @StormKillzone Před 4 lety +69

      same xD

    • @peterbrown6224
      @peterbrown6224 Před 4 lety +138

      As did I. The bishop's not going to achieve anything so might as well create a traffic jam.

    • @gasaidjohn3499
      @gasaidjohn3499 Před 4 lety +116

      Although you probably won't see my reply, finding the move Bh3 by itself wasn't the whole story when talking about the beauty of this move. The amazing part of this is that Shirov had played 42. Qd5 5 moves prior, offering a queen trade, which Topalov believed led to a theoretical draw. Shirov didn't just stumble into the position and find Bh3!, he had found it in his calculation and calculated all the possibilities five entire moves after the queens were traded. Even then, he had to consider possibilities such as pushing the pawn to g3, capturing on g2 if white moved his king, and gxh3 which was played in the game.

    • @nickbrown8861
      @nickbrown8861 Před 4 lety +21

      I did the same - it was the only crazy move I could think of!

  • @Themozartthug
    @Themozartthug Před 4 lety +1377

    I play moves like that all the time, I'm constantly losing my pieces

    • @cinegraphics
      @cinegraphics Před 4 lety +59

      You're just misunderstood genius

    • @nickbartb4172
      @nickbartb4172 Před 4 lety +25

      Problem with you is your opponents do not know you are a genius and they would not resign and would play to the end and you lose!

    • @silentgrove7670
      @silentgrove7670 Před 4 lety +4

      Maybe you are an undiscovered genius :P

    • @lukebarton4827
      @lukebarton4827 Před 4 lety +11

      I'm good at sacrificing pieces. Just not at winning at chess

    • @conservativeasiatic9752
      @conservativeasiatic9752 Před 3 lety +4

      Good moves don’t work against pour players

  • @panzerkampfwagenvdauphine6489

    "now find the most brilliant move in chess history"
    me a 700 rated player: sure why not

  • @gabrielesimionato1210
    @gabrielesimionato1210 Před 4 lety +1742

    10:30 "this is the greatest move of all times, I'll give you a couple of seconds to find out"
    Wow, you really have a great opinion about your followers!

    • @sebaba001
      @sebaba001 Před 4 lety +41

      Hahaha seriously. But it's more about average. If everyone is trying to think of a "creative move", 800k people doing it, someone is gonna get it right.

    • @Wilton24
      @Wilton24 Před 4 lety +17

      You can pause the video if you want 😒

    • @insearchofpeace2151
      @insearchofpeace2151 Před 4 lety +11

      One of Agad's very common points in his chess videos is that doubling up pawns is bad. So following Agad's saying and also Agad's implication that Topalov isn't very bright in this game, I guessed the move correctly. I figured that after the Bishop to h3, Topalov would certainly take that bishop and then there would be a drawn out and a mediocre tough Endgame with Topalov's Bishop and King chasing after Shirov's pawns. Ah well, most people won't believe me.

    • @justinmanley8131
      @justinmanley8131 Před 4 lety +14

      just knowing its the "greatest move in chess history" would allow you to pick the MOST exotic move possible then analyze.

    • @gonzalo4658
      @gonzalo4658 Před 4 lety +1

      hahahaha

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 Před 6 lety +1779

    Stockfish 6 couldnt find this move but everyone in the comments are Bobby Fisher himself as far as i can see

    • @ctoaun23
      @ctoaun23 Před 6 lety +200

      It's different when you know there's a great/weird move. No one here would have played it over the board obviously and we all would have drawn!

    • @Toshinben
      @Toshinben Před 6 lety +203

      When someone says 'great move', my mind immediately starts looking for 'weird move'. I imagine it's the case for many others.

    • @trevors3908
      @trevors3908 Před 6 lety +52

      Personally, this move was easy to find as I like looking for weird moves (Especially in endgames. That's my favorite part of a chess match.) However, I'd be willing to bet I'd almost never find the "greatest move" if it were in the opening or midgame. Also, it's easier to find a move when looking at someone else's game than while playing a game yourself in my opinion.

    • @ongbonga9025
      @ongbonga9025 Před 6 lety +10

      I'd analyse this move if I had days per move (it's how I play chess online). Whether I'd actually play it is another matter. Over the board? I might consider it breifly but I would probably quickly decide it wasn't worth the time to evaluate deeply.
      Stockfish 6 is a great deal stronger than I am (obviously). However, I have one advantage over it that might make the difference in these kind of situations... I'm a human and have the benefit of a brain. I know the bishop is potentially worth less than a pawn here, but stockfish doesn't unless it sees a brute force promotion. I only need to see that the pawn structure is suitable for me to eventually force through. I also don't need to continue analysing obviously losing moves, unlike stockfish.
      Stockfish is placing too high a value on the bishop for the position. This is a flaw Alpha Zero has exposed in stockfish.

    • @fisher00769
      @fisher00769 Před 6 lety +8

      How? I have the free version of Houdini, which is a pretty old one, and it absolutely immediately found Bh3, without any thought basically. Keep in mind also my computer is really low tier as well (1 GB RAM+1.73 GHz CPU )

  • @westprogamer3294
    @westprogamer3294 Před 4 lety +3785

    I did not find it because I thought it was white's turn to move, yeah I know I am a prodigy.

    • @kulrajchavda9538
      @kulrajchavda9538 Před 4 lety +43

      Same😂😂😂

    • @eddy._.1822
      @eddy._.1822 Před 4 lety +19

      Me too lol

    • @darealdovahkiin3652
      @darealdovahkiin3652 Před 4 lety +18

      His move was one of the first I processed but I was like nah I’m just so bad that my dumbass my think that it might be a good move lmao

    • @darealdovahkiin3652
      @darealdovahkiin3652 Před 4 lety +6

      His move was one of the first I processed but I was like nah I’m just so bad that my dumbass my think that it might be a good move lmao

    • @Wilker_uwu
      @Wilker_uwu Před 4 lety +4

      i had the exact same problem XD
      (i'm sad now ;-;)

  • @cnelsonlv999
    @cnelsonlv999 Před 4 lety +701

    I was actually able to find this move, which leads me to conclude that it wasn't the greatest move in chess history.

    • @X-R-T-C
      @X-R-T-C Před 3 lety +106

      No, it does not... The fact that you are told that there is an outstanding move available makes you think outside of the box, search for the unusual, the exceptional; minus the anxiety, minus the pressure of the game, minus the time pressure. They don't know that such a move exists, they have to find it. Smartass...

    • @liamcunynghame9356
      @liamcunynghame9356 Před 3 lety +53

      @@X-R-T-C some one needs a hug

    • @0xc0ffee_
      @0xc0ffee_ Před 3 lety +8

      I found it as well :) That bishop is totally useless, so I thought it would be easier to move around with the King and have less problems with opponent having doubled pawns. I

    • @MattiMCFC
      @MattiMCFC Před 3 lety +1

      @@X-R-T-C Yeah, cuz finding a move people consider the greatest move in chess history, and having an explination as to why it's good isn't an acomplishment..

    • @StephenPaulTroup
      @StephenPaulTroup Před 3 lety +1

      LOL, ditto, my thought exactly!

  • @fanatKupa
    @fanatKupa Před 6 lety +779

    The greatest move in chess history: Shirov vs. Topalov. The greatest game in chess history: Kasparov vs. Topalov. Poor Topalov.

    • @agadmator
      @agadmator  Před 6 lety +400

      Karpov's Immortal is also against Topalov :)

    • @khushalchandaria5450
      @khushalchandaria5450 Před 5 lety +7

      @@agadmator he says the queen is hanging because after the queen exchange, the rook has a free win over the bishop as no one is protecting it.. (PS ik this is 7 months late but still)

    • @elliotmcgee8918
      @elliotmcgee8918 Před 5 lety +88

      Perhaps Topalov forces strong play from his opponents. Lets get Topalov against AlphaZero.

    • @mohamedabdelsamea695
      @mohamedabdelsamea695 Před 5 lety +2

      xDDDD

    • @dago6410
      @dago6410 Před 5 lety +4

      the best game in chess history in my honest opinion is Steinitz v. Van Bardeleben.

  • @THEGLORYRISING
    @THEGLORYRISING Před 6 lety +299

    incredible move that forces the win, I'm pretty sure as shirov placed that bishop down on h3 he jumped up in disgust, "Argh I didn't see that pawn, damn!" then continued "Just kidding, mate in 25 sucker".

  • @nikolajosic5822
    @nikolajosic5822 Před 3 lety +65

    i fucking found the move. after having a horrible day, this really lightened up my mood, thank you brother

  • @pulguinha682
    @pulguinha682 Před 2 lety +12

    it takes stockfish 14 at depth 30 to spot Bh3, but in the end, it's the top engine line for SF14, so props to Shirov, for finding such an amazing move

  • @gfweis
    @gfweis Před 6 lety +1126

    That was easy to find, as it was the only way to sacrifice the bishop, which was the only move that could in principle make it the "greatest move in chess history." :)

    • @iangrant2925
      @iangrant2925 Před 6 lety +19

      It is a bit like doing a puzzle - you know there is some weird looking move or counter-intuitive move that wins, so you look for such a move.

    • @miguelito2361
      @miguelito2361 Před 6 lety +4

      Yup! I don't play chess, but even I suspected this was the move that was coming up. The two white pawns in the H column can't move forward on account of the black G6 pawn, and the white bishop can't leave the A-column black pawn unattended.
      The bishop move renders black's pieces rather useless!

    • @DanMedlenJr
      @DanMedlenJr Před 6 lety +4

      Michael H the king doesn't hide in the end game he gets into the game.

    • @peterwinters8587
      @peterwinters8587 Před 5 lety

      Bravo - clap clap clap

    • @garylake8654
      @garylake8654 Před 5 lety

      @@DanMedlenJr Spot on, in the end game, its tempo with the king that matters, this move gave the tempo to the black king, at least by white accepting the bishop 'sacrifice' it did.....

  • @akshaylm1076
    @akshaylm1076 Před 6 lety +616

    Agadmator is THE BEST chess channel on CZcams.

  • @barwlface444
    @barwlface444 Před 4 lety +425

    Eh, the Wooden Shield is a bit stronger, but not bad.

    • @blackjacktrial
      @blackjacktrial Před 4 lety +16

      It's a wooden targe or buckler; a less substantial shield, but plenty enough to deflect any chance of an opponents attack

    • @kekw5255
      @kekw5255 Před 4 lety +2

      It's similar I'd say

    • @aelix56
      @aelix56 Před 4 lety +6

      @@blackjacktrial these are the roots of the wooden shield, pvc just perfected it

    • @anonymousstout4759
      @anonymousstout4759 Před 3 lety

      Could you give me timestamp I've never heard stockfish recommend me this move

    • @jeffreykaufmann2867
      @jeffreykaufmann2867 Před 3 lety

      Black didnt have to Sacrifice his bishop to easily win cause Black is ahead by two pawns

  • @technowey
    @technowey Před 4 lety +67

    The greatest move in chess history was your decision to start this channel!
    Thanks for another great video.
    I didn't find the move. I only looked a few seconds. I guessed it was d4, but I didn't find the continuation for that move. I knew it would look like a bad move from the buildup.
    By the way, at 6:16, after PXN the White queen is not hanging, although it is bad for white to capture the knight.

    • @Iraercturus
      @Iraercturus Před 2 lety +1

      The rook will take the bishop after Nxc2

  • @funutation
    @funutation Před 5 lety +60

    thanks for saying you're going to pause the video, and then giving us a moment to determine if we really wanna pause because I always say "yes, no, yes, no, YES" :-)

  • @AtlasReburdened
    @AtlasReburdened Před 6 lety +785

    I saw it, but to be fair I can't beat a mid level chess app on my best days.

    • @alexmojica4783
      @alexmojica4783 Před 5 lety +3

      Same

    • @jot2b
      @jot2b Před 5 lety +9

      Haha! Same here, and I found the move too! Have to give some credit to @agadmator for some training on pawn structures & doubled pawns.

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 Před 5 lety +32

      I'm in this boat. I wonder if this is just one of those weird problems where novices and journeymen have an easier time. The value of the destruction of his pawn structure seems apparent, but it's entirely possible I am simply not valuing my own bishop enough. I certainly wouldn't think out several moves in advance to be able to see the victory for that move, but it "seemed obvious". I think knowing that there is one move that is gonna decide everything with hindsight probably helps more than anything, simply because there is no other obvious single move that drastically changes the dynamics of the board.

    • @ryansylvester976
      @ryansylvester976 Před 5 lety

      Im with ya

    • @gg-ki7pv
      @gg-ki7pv Před 5 lety +1

      Me too :))) in 5 seconds :))

  • @arnavsrivastava2462
    @arnavsrivastava2462 Před 4 lety +139

    0:21 check out the captions when he tries to say Vishwanathan Anand.
    Also checkout the captions at 0:27.

    • @BeLhElHeSGUY
      @BeLhElHeSGUY Před 4 lety +9

      Just checking if anyone else noticed it ahahahha.Genius.

    • @keshavkaushik8203
      @keshavkaushik8203 Před 3 lety +1

      Damn!!!

    • @kenmendoza6932
      @kenmendoza6932 Před 3 lety +7

      Nobody writes auto generated captions. Thats why its called "auto-generated"

    • @Jagar_Tharn
      @Jagar_Tharn Před 3 lety

      @@kenmendoza6932 The sky is blue, except when it is other colors.

    • @pahoellyyy
      @pahoellyyy Před 3 lety +1

      Who's Viswanathan Anand and Alexei Shirov? I only know We-found-out-on Another and Alex-A Share-of!

  • @innesbarrett1805
    @innesbarrett1805 Před 3 lety +40

    I figured out the move but only because I immediately expect a ridiculous sacrifice every time.

  • @PaleGhost69
    @PaleGhost69 Před 6 lety +841

    My intuition found it. I had no idea what to do after that point but it seemed like the right move

    • @krytitan
      @krytitan Před 6 lety +14

      same :)

    • @christianscholte2982
      @christianscholte2982 Před 6 lety +231

      I guess, it's like this: You know that it is considered as the greatet move of all time, so something in the back of your head tells you that it certainly must be a sacrifice. The real question is: would you find this move in a real game, when noone tells you that the move you are going to play will be the greatest move of all time. I guess not. You say it yourself: you would have had no idea how to go on. So why would it seem right to sacrifice a bishop? No offence meant! ;)

    • @PaleGhost69
      @PaleGhost69 Před 6 lety +7

      I'm not good with planning moves out in my head. The way I play is mostly reactionary. If I was put into that position in a real game I would probably ignore the a4 pawn and just guard the D one as it walks to promotion. It's the clear path and you have to make a move.

    • @Grzegorz54321
      @Grzegorz54321 Před 6 lety +5

      Yes of course you all see that move :D

    • @rocotips8191
      @rocotips8191 Před 6 lety

      PaleGhost69 lol same

  • @Darraghx1x
    @Darraghx1x Před 6 lety +111

    The greatest move in Chess history was Magnus Carlsen picking up Liv Tyler for a walk in the park.

  • @clydeblair9622
    @clydeblair9622 Před 3 lety +8

    I don't know squat about playing chess or any games for that matter, but how can anyone not be facinated by these duels of the mind? I'm hooked.

  • @davidnikoloff3211
    @davidnikoloff3211 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for these videos. I appreciate learning the history of the game.

  • @chatoXvato
    @chatoXvato Před 6 lety +620

    Theres a lot of Grandmasters in these comments.

    • @SuperMz0051
      @SuperMz0051 Před 6 lety +5

      chatoXvato fake GM hahaha

    • @Danny-qh4su
      @Danny-qh4su Před 6 lety +23

      Burger-king GM's

    • @beng4151
      @beng4151 Před 6 lety +2

      No kidding. Especially ranking the move. Maybe it's not the best move in history, but how would these simpletons know that?

    • @danielburbank1669
      @danielburbank1669 Před 6 lety +18

      I found the move in seconds. All I had to do was let the video play on.
      :)

    • @Gus_Diaz_83
      @Gus_Diaz_83 Před 5 lety +2

      SUPER Commando Grandmasters... It's the next few levels up

  • @jersker67
    @jersker67 Před 6 lety +172

    Your dedication to chess and making videos is inspirational! Keep it up! youre the man

    • @amjan
      @amjan Před 6 lety

      Yup, he's balls deep in chess ;)

  • @petrkupec8347
    @petrkupec8347 Před 3 lety

    Props to the guy making complete subtitles, helped a lot

  • @cemenenkoff
    @cemenenkoff Před 4 lety +3

    Whoever made the captions you made me spit my tea. I love you, you beautiful soul.

  • @JQMusic5
    @JQMusic5 Před 6 lety +472

    I think Shirov just has a dramatic publicist xD

    • @MDMAx
      @MDMAx Před 6 lety +4

      Or a hidden sarcasm maybe? It's an interesting move nonetheless. I will consider it in my future games (:

    • @oaktemplate46
      @oaktemplate46 Před 6 lety +5

      Hehe xD I think sometimes when we look at a game in retrospect, we do not re-imagine the tension and mood that is pushing each players logic. I think Shirov notices Topalov ignoring stronger moves preceding bishop h3 and played to advantage with the swaps.
      Baiting that pawn to ensure easy mgmt of the white pawn file was genius, but it was the play that lead Topalov there.

    • @nextgenfootball69420
      @nextgenfootball69420 Před 4 lety

      Jackson Quade bruh I don't see your name on the grandmasters list

  • @Belinera
    @Belinera Před 6 lety +68

    The fact that many people commenting here can't seem to grasp that Bh3 was the only winning move is a testament to how impressive it is.

    • @Mwuesse
      @Mwuesse Před 6 lety +31

      The problem is in the video is he doesn't make it clear that this is the only winning move for black or why... i mean it's intuitive to see that the king wants to walk across the board and that the bishop is blocking that plan - it's also possible to see how moving it exactly there to "force" white to waste time by either capturing or by eventually moving his pawn so his king can move. But apart from that this video shows no example lines of how white can draw if that move wasn't played

    • @davidbostwick6717
      @davidbostwick6717 Před 6 lety +4

      I saw Bh3 nearly immediately as the split pawns with White's king in the corner worth as much as the white bishop. I did not realize, however, that it would be the ONLY winning move. I can see why it would earn the title of greatest chess move for that reason even though it seems intuitive to me.

    • @fabiogaucho77
      @fabiogaucho77 Před 5 lety +2

      The video by the St. Louis chess club makes the situation and the variations much more clear. It is in depth

    • @ln9296
      @ln9296 Před 4 lety +2

      @@davidbostwick6717 you are full of shit

    • @name1483
      @name1483 Před 4 lety

      is it?

  • @rg7535
    @rg7535 Před 4 lety +29

    6:14 your queen is not hanging. You just give up a bishop for a knight, and you're down a pawn after Qxc2, Nxc2, Rxd2, Rc1, Bxe5. Not ideal, but your queen is most definitely not hanging.

    • @rg7535
      @rg7535 Před 4 lety +4

      @@lastseenonplanetearth5299 That's the line I wrote, except you wouldn't have to defend your light square bishop, since your knight would be blocking it.
      Trying to save your light square bishop would definitely be a terrible idea. You would trade queens and lose a pawn, but much more than that, you would allow black to improve his pawn structure, and you would almost certainly regret allowing those 3 pawns on the queen side to be connected, especially since black's light square bishop and a1 rook would be defending the entire formation, as soon as black plays c5. Plus, black can take the knight on c1, sacrificing the exchange, but winning in the end, not allowing white to take the pawn on b4, and then black will be almost about to fork your light square bishop and rook, and you would need 3 moves to save them, allowing black to move with tempo and play b3, c5 and c4 and pretty much win the game since you wouldn't be able to stop that pawn storm on the queen side.
      In other words, it's clearly a bad idea to take the knight, it's just not because of the reason agadmator explained.

  • @christopherride3764
    @christopherride3764 Před 3 lety +1

    And... this is a great channel, love the format and the insights 👍

  • @Brandon-a-writer
    @Brandon-a-writer Před 6 lety +46

    Kasparov's rook sacrifice against Topalov is still probably my favorite move, because it was something I would never have considered. Caissa was indeed kind to him that day

    • @ginoginoh
      @ginoginoh Před 6 lety

      I agree. That is still my favourite chess game ever.

    • @josephvictory9536
      @josephvictory9536 Před 5 lety

      Agreed, to me that, and fishers game of the century (the knight move) are candidates for the best

    • @danmatei1487
      @danmatei1487 Před 5 lety

      me too

  • @moea.9120
    @moea.9120 Před 5 lety +39

    It's easier to see the move when we know it's there, as it's usually something "obvious", like a sacrifice.

  • @dandecastro51
    @dandecastro51 Před 2 lety +1

    I rewatch this a few times a year :)
    So instructive
    As well as entertaining...

  • @UncleTola_
    @UncleTola_ Před 4 lety

    I'm so glad YT is recommending old agadmator videos. Something to cool off

  • @anosmianAcrimony
    @anosmianAcrimony Před 6 lety +35

    ’’That bishop is so strong, I mean, it literally cuts the board in half.’’
    So they called an adjudicator and got a new board

  • @ctoaun23
    @ctoaun23 Před 6 lety +14

    For those who want a more thorough explanation of the move, the first half of this video gives a nice explanation: czcams.com/video/BYQm8cy1tVw/video.html . The reason this is the "greatest move ever" is because it's the only move that actually wins the game, the idea being the black king needs to get to f5 next move or the game is drawn.

  • @watermalone4601
    @watermalone4601 Před 4 lety +4

    Subtitles are freaking amazing thank you😂😂😂

  • @bazcuda
    @bazcuda Před 3 lety +9

    5:50 "It's a very unpleasant position"
    White: "Mmm, I'm good thanks"
    :D

  • @Grandcapi
    @Grandcapi Před 6 lety +8

    Last year Shirov was invited to play in the biggest tournament in Brazil. He finished in 4th place. Someone printed a t-shirt with the famous move and sold a lot.

  • @GoAheadShaun
    @GoAheadShaun Před 5 lety +19

    Ffs I finally got the "find the best move" puzzle he gives on each video. AND IM GLAD IT WAS FOR THIS GAME!

  • @doc1411
    @doc1411 Před 2 lety +1

    What for a move!! thank you so much. Gives human beings a chance against the engines.

  • @JuicyJonesHQ
    @JuicyJonesHQ Před 3 lety +3

    I love how that brilliant endgame sac calls back to Topolov's manoeuvers at 4:01 where black's pawns are doubled. That seems like the clever bit, using Topolov's own good ideas against him.

  • @empanadero_
    @empanadero_ Před 5 lety +41

    I found it BUT I knew that every other move was normal, so when prefaced with "The greatest move in chess history" I knew it was Bh3 immediately, only because it was so wacky looking. Did I like it? No. Would I have played it? No. My rating? ~1200.

  • @sumanshrestha414
    @sumanshrestha414 Před 6 lety +37

    I have no idea why I’m suddenly watching chess videos these days. ::

    • @shiveon7
      @shiveon7 Před 3 lety

      Mw too.Probably i am stuck at master level in android chess game.

    • @alcoholfree6381
      @alcoholfree6381 Před 3 lety +1

      You are watching chess because your innate intelligence and common sense! Chess is a much better sport than anything else we may watch. It is a true and better spectator sport. So you’re watching chess because you’re smart!!! Admit it.

    • @bishmoyrahman5358
      @bishmoyrahman5358 Před 3 lety +1

      @@alcoholfree6381 not necessarily im pretty sure people play chess because their passionate about it and saying chess is a much better sport to watch is pretty ignorant. I watch these videos not because I'm smart but because I like chess and I would have done the same for any other sport.

  • @wreckim
    @wreckim Před 3 lety +2

    The greatest move I've ever seen is Agadmator deciding to keep everything free for us all to enjoy. No engine would suggest such a move either. I live very close to the Getty Museum and the Getty House in Santa Monica, CA....entrance is, shockingly, free as well. Yes, I am putting Agadmator in the same realm as Getty; that's how good this channel is.

  • @intolerantkaafir3320
    @intolerantkaafir3320 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for considering us so brilliant to find greatest move of history in couple of seconds.

  • @skaterfugater
    @skaterfugater Před 6 lety +108

    i instantly found it but only because it was announced as the greatest move in history. so i had to be something radical. if you hadnt announced it as the greatest move but just some unimportant best move i would have gone for something else.

    • @spartapils4213
      @spartapils4213 Před 6 lety +5

      Exactly.

    • @Danny-qh4su
      @Danny-qh4su Před 6 lety +1

      same, I just looked for a weird move and Bh3 looks weird

    • @Tizohip
      @Tizohip Před 6 lety +1

      Found weird move and found the best move.

    • @brunch.
      @brunch. Před 4 lety

      Yep

    • @gabrieldunn7384
      @gabrieldunn7384 Před 4 lety

      Same here. I "found" it seing it doubled white's pawsn and gave black a passed pawn, but not really knowing how to win from there.

  • @squidsword9795
    @squidsword9795 Před 5 lety +3

    For those that don't understand the reasoning behind the move, apart from doubling the pawns, the main purpose is to open up the F5 square for the king so it can move forward to escort the pawns instead of having to go to d6 and c5, in which the white king will be on time to prevent any ideas.

  • @nickm8882
    @nickm8882 Před 3 lety +1

    The only move from your channel I’ve ever found and I’m so proud I’m not even 1000 rated yet. Pure luck I guess, but you also had me wanting to look for abstract moves and I thought there weren’t many options besides the bishop to move and have a whole lot of effect

  • @mm-fh1tw
    @mm-fh1tw Před 4 lety +18

    Thats called the wooden shield

  • @briancarlson9778
    @briancarlson9778 Před 5 lety +42

    I found it but only after i watched the video a second time xD

  • @bungdarwin
    @bungdarwin Před 5 lety +6

    I never thought that back would create double pawn by sacrificing Bh3. Excellent move

  • @jriccioj
    @jriccioj Před 4 lety +4

    As a beginner, I’ve come to learn that a lot of brilliant moves are heavy sacrifices but they end up being worth it

  • @CinemainMotion
    @CinemainMotion Před 4 lety +5

    I have no idea how I got here or what was said at any point throughout the entire video, but good job being smart!

  • @bezzlebedeviled4756
    @bezzlebedeviled4756 Před 5 lety +4

    11:14 ...Interesting. Even Stockfish10 doesn't find it, at least not right away. But after a3 (its first choice) followed by Kf2, then Bh3 is its first choice on the following turn with a -10 score as opposed to -2.7 for anything else.

  • @renzelpounch
    @renzelpounch Před 6 lety +120

    If you realize that any endgame can be calculated by brute force, the result of any endgame can only be a win, a draw or a loss. This means that Shirov out-calculated Topalov, which isn't why this move is considered the best move ever played.
    Topalov thought he could control d4 with his king and capture on f6 with his bishop if Shirov would play king d6 (to promote the a-pawn or the d-pawn). Because of the bishops of opposite colour and the king controlling d4 this would result in a draw. The reason why this move is considered to be the best move ever played is because it is the only move that wins and it is a sacrifice that wins the game wheter it is accepted or not. And ofcourse the added excitement that the engine thinks this to be a crap move that it doesn't consider at all, which means the computer would draw this position. In that perspective human intuition beats artifical brute force. (Which Alpha Zero seems to prove nowadays)
    Anyway, i am not a chess genius, i am a chess lover. All this stuff i know from an analysis from GM Alejandro Ramirez that you can find on youtube. I will not link it out of respect for your channel (i think linking other channels in yours is impolite)

    • @CarlosSilva-cx6oh
      @CarlosSilva-cx6oh Před 6 lety +2

      Rens Bergmans it looks like the worst, it's the best and it's the only move.

    • @strong8705
      @strong8705 Před 6 lety +23

      Comment deeper than video, so here I will add... GM Shirov himself explained this in one of his video lectures. Secret to finding this move during the game was similar situation that he encountered before.
      To me it is the most impressive move of all times, because:
      1. Most of us would dismiss it in a split-second.
      2. Position is elegantly simple, minimalist, composition-in-a-game.
      3. Guy won opposite color bishops position.
      4. By most probably the only winning move (Alpha0 would tell some day)
      5. Sacrificing whole piece, last piece, for no obvious compensation or threat. This looks like, by far, worst looking move of all, and yet it's the best.

    • @felixacb8895
      @felixacb8895 Před 6 lety

      If you calculate something by brute force you calculate absolutely every possibility so it is impossible that an engine thinks this move is crap when it was given enough time to calculate all remaining possibilities...

    • @jeffwells641
      @jeffwells641 Před 5 lety +3

      @@felixacb8895 The real secret to the move is that it's probably not the best move he could have made in a strict sense. Stockfish would have discarded it, because it would have found better moves. A big part of the reason it works is because it's a human playing a human, and there is psychology involved. It's so out of left field the opponent has to re-analyse the entire end-game. He previously understood the game, and how it would end, but now he doesn't. That puts massive pressure on him and time is probably running out. All this adds up to being unable to find a reasonable response, and losing the game.

    • @felixacb8895
      @felixacb8895 Před 5 lety

      @@jeffwells641 I was just talking about the definition of brute force which is calculating every possibility. In chess this is impossible because it could go on infinitely so its just possible for the chess computers to brute force a number of moves in advance. But because there is such a large number of absolutely useless and bad moves these moves quickly get eliminated by most chess computers

  • @Unlikely_Hero
    @Unlikely_Hero Před 3 lety +3

    I'm looking at the position in April 2021 and the Tarrasch engine recommends Bh3 by 8+ pawn points over any other candidate
    -10.64 (depth 38) vs -2.08 for Bb1 or Bc2, etc.
    A fantastic find by Shirov!

  • @altyoutubeaccount6624
    @altyoutubeaccount6624 Před 3 lety +6

    Actually found this one, Never thought I'd find any of the solutions of these tbh. Forcing a double up pawn was my only thought.

  • @jefffritts68
    @jefffritts68 Před 5 lety +5

    i lol at "in those days" ....feels like last week to me :)

  • @Eric-yj5xg
    @Eric-yj5xg Před 3 lety +4

    YAY found it immediatly! its like trading 1 bishop for 2 last pawns. then you just push your other pawns with the kings. can't stop them all

  • @pauloalmeida6433
    @pauloalmeida6433 Před 4 lety +1

    Great insightful chess debate on historical games, thank you. After your hypothetical sequence at 8:30, which arguably pointed to a draw, in fact you were presenting Mr. Topalov with a simple finish: white rook d8; black king h7; white queen h8 checkmate

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 Před 2 lety

      Black would just block with the rook immediately

  • @davidfriedlander5512
    @davidfriedlander5512 Před 2 lety +2

    agadmator has the best CZcams chess channel. It is excellent! Always informative, engaging and interesting. I am very appreciative of the quality of the work that is always evident in these videos. Thank you for putting these up for us!
    I found the move instantly. I'm maybe ELO 1950 but my "chess intuition" is very strong. Maybe it's from playing chess for 60 years and seeing a lot of games. Unfortunately, I'm lazy and am terrible with chess opening theory which lowers my scores. Nevertheless, it was big fun to find the move and also to feel very strongly that it was correct. Having the guts to play such a move in an important tournament is another thing entirely of course. I make no claim on being anything but an above average player. Finding Bh3 totally made my day though!

  • @moef.5326
    @moef.5326 Před 6 lety +14

    This is the greatest move ever because it's the very last one thinks to make, and the only that wins the game.

    • @-_Nuke_-
      @-_Nuke_- Před 5 lety

      yes but there are many such moves in chess history, it is absurd to call it this way...

    • @maxpauleta3496
      @maxpauleta3496 Před 5 lety +1

      The position for white is lost either way, bishop h3 is just one of the many winning moves.

    • @cinegraphics
      @cinegraphics Před 4 lety

      AND because the chess engine didn't offer it. At least at the moment this video was created. Wonder if AlphaZero would see it.

  • @kevin.s
    @kevin.s Před 4 lety +5

    the thumbnail is the wooden shield PogU!

  • @meltingface2558
    @meltingface2558 Před 3 lety

    Idk how I came across your channel but it makes me wanna get back into chess. I quit when I got to high school bc I played 3 other sports full time. I know this is an old video but thanks for the inspiration.

  • @iainmacaulay2244
    @iainmacaulay2244 Před 3 lety

    Love yer videos pal, Shug fae Dundee in Scotland 😘

  • @Galdring
    @Galdring Před 4 lety +8

    As a truly amateur chess player, I would have appreciated an explanation of why the bishop move facilitates the winning plan. I understand if this is a channel for more experienced players, though. Could anyone explain? Is it about getting the bishop out of the way, then making white waste a move on taking the bishop, so you get a head start on the king travel?
    Fantastic videos, Agadmator. Congratulations on getting to play Magnus Carlsen! Well... sort of.

    • @wsshambaugh
      @wsshambaugh Před 3 lety +4

      The white pawns are trapped. If the h4 pawn advances the it is captured, blocking the h3 pawn. With two pawns and a king black was sure to promote one of them, as happened in the game.

  • @michaelbuckingham4830
    @michaelbuckingham4830 Před 6 lety +10

    My friend just thought you said “because there was time travel”

  • @pinilan
    @pinilan Před 4 lety

    One of the best for sure

  • @pedropetr
    @pedropetr Před 3 lety +1

    Indeed surprising and fresh move.

  • @unicockboy1666
    @unicockboy1666 Před 6 lety +5

    "some call it the greatest chessmove in history...
    I'll give you a couple of seconds..."

  • @Bobby-fj8mk
    @Bobby-fj8mk Před 5 lety +4

    Stockfish 9 saw the great move after 50 seconds on an i7 quad core.
    Stockfish 9 also didn't take the Bishop - it realises that it's poisoned..

  • @sxile4812
    @sxile4812 Před 4 lety +2

    I saw the thumbnail and now understand QVC is a time traveller and this is the Wooden Shield

  • @Jesuis-qe8ql
    @Jesuis-qe8ql Před 5 lety +1

    outstanding move

  • @rossgeller422
    @rossgeller422 Před 6 lety +45

    so any lose from topalov consider the immortal of his opponent ..kasparov (1999) karpov (1994) shirov (1998)

    • @chenyanhao676
      @chenyanhao676 Před 6 lety +22

      Ross Geller thank you topalov for your sacrifice

    • @RicardoAGuitar
      @RicardoAGuitar Před 4 lety

      Korchnoi and Timman also lost many brilliant games. When you're a great player like those guys, it takes a heck of an effort to beat you.

  • @IvanLopez-fx3hx
    @IvanLopez-fx3hx Před 6 lety +8

    lol I thought that it was the other persons turn when it was "the greatest move of all time"

  • @thedeanrb3769
    @thedeanrb3769 Před 3 lety

    LOVE THAT MOVE!

  • @cecilwalsh5089
    @cecilwalsh5089 Před 3 lety +1

    I think the only reason I found this move is because you put so much emphasis on it like no engine recommended the bishop sacrifice so I just think we’ll it wouldn’t be a simple pawn or king move and ended up figuring it out!!! Love the content, favorite chess channel!!!

  • @juxebeats5439
    @juxebeats5439 Před 3 lety +3

    The best feeling is predicting the move he played

  • @IgnacioLunar
    @IgnacioLunar Před 5 lety +65

    I was analizing and there is no way to win if Topalov had not take the bishop.

    • @anupr567
      @anupr567 Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah exactly!! That sacrifice move is not required

    • @zanti4132
      @zanti4132 Před 3 lety +15

      Black's plan is to get his king to e4 before White blockades the position with Kf2 followed by Ke3. So after ...Bh3! how does White stop that? Now Kf2 Kf5 Ke3 just loses the g-pawn, obviously.
      It seems clear that the position is won once the Black king gets to e4, with or without the bishop. The only reason I don't think ...Bh3 deserves to be called the greatest move of all time is that it is really quite logical and not especially deep - just get the king to e4 and the White bishop can't defend everthing, game over!

    • @Ronalgordo
      @Ronalgordo Před 3 lety

      @@zanti4132 yes, i think that depending of the moves of the White, black can take the pawn of g and make a pass pawn on f, and if White make any different move that is not with the king to black can get his King to e4 so is not so easy to White at that time to not lose the Game. But maybe we need a deep analisys of it better than this i say. But anyway if this is all true it means that the bishop to h3 is the only winning move for blacks and that means a lot for sure.

    • @steeeeeeeven
      @steeeeeeeven Před 3 lety +1

      position is winning for black no matter what. but bishop sacrifice is the most accurate (even though it is not seen by any engine up this point still in 2021). Engines agree on its accuracy after it is played.

    • @daveyork0
      @daveyork0 Před 3 lety +4

      Analizing sounds painful, for one or both of you

  • @mikeheinz1228
    @mikeheinz1228 Před 3 lety +1

    It forces him to further mess up his only pawn structure. If he attacks the bishop he doubles up his pawn and will eventually take the pawn finishing on a light square which will make it impossible to remove with the opposite color bishop leaving him free to move his other three passed pawns. If he ignores, he simply loses his pawn for the cost of the bishop and shirov would've ended with four pawns instead of only three which would've been worse. Or, he pushes passed the bishop and ruins the only proper order of attack to break shirov's pawn structure. It's genius, and the moves where you sacrifice a piece for the end game are the toughest to spot.

  • @emmettedavidson7055
    @emmettedavidson7055 Před 2 lety +1

    I immediately thought of sacrificing my bishop, figuring it might complicate his run to promotion as I had a pawn pretty close; though the other bishop should easily prevent it, I held to my guess thinking my players just might be positioned well enough to frustrate that sole opposing bishop. Thanks for showing this.

  • @LuigiPaiPai
    @LuigiPaiPai Před 2 lety +3

    When I make a move like that and lose it's called a silly blunder but when it's Shirov and he wins it's the greatest move in chess history.
    So much bias.

  • @Kamelot.Gravel0s
    @Kamelot.Gravel0s Před 6 lety +27

    At 6:10 on cxb4 the queen isn't hanging because of the d4 knight

    • @superMIKHIN
      @superMIKHIN Před 6 lety +5

      in that case cxb4 qxc2 Nxc2 Rxd3 with a tempo on the knight and bishop, there is no defense so black is better

    • @agadmator
      @agadmator  Před 6 lety +8

      +LordOfTheYaks What he said :)

    • @rmendeljacobs2832
      @rmendeljacobs2832 Před 6 lety +2

      LordOfTheYaks Bb2 is not a defense?

    • @Kamelot.Gravel0s
      @Kamelot.Gravel0s Před 6 lety +9

      LordOfTheYaks whether the line is desirable for white or not doesn't change the fact that the queen isn't hanging, which is my only claim

    • @superMIKHIN
      @superMIKHIN Před 6 lety

      Ninnifier O.o Black captures with the pawn ;)

  • @Themozartthug
    @Themozartthug Před 2 lety

    "a couple of seconds" is perfect for bullet training.....I sometimes pause if it's a really complicated position, but I like to try and find it in the given time sometimes, never stop what u do.

  • @ThirdLife86
    @ThirdLife86 Před 3 lety +2

    Some modern Engines can seem to find the move pretty quickly:
    Stockfish 13 with or without NNUE
    Dragon by Komodo
    Deep HIARCS 14 (Shows it REALLY has positional understanding and good eval even if it can't compete with say Stockfish in a match)
    Ethereal 12.75 (Probably a lot in Common with SF)
    Andscacs 0.95
    ShashChess 15.1 (Probably a lot in Common with SF)
    Wasp 4.50
    These here don't:
    Lc0 with the latest T60 30x384 Net 68550 (sadly Leela doesn't even consider this move within the first 8 PVs...ouch)
    Komodo 14.1
    Houdini 6 with or without Tactical Mode (i really thought it would see it one way or the other)
    Fizbo 2
    Deep Shredder 13 (Shredder is usually an endgame killer, didn't see it though)
    Deep Junior Yokohama
    Fire 8
    OpenTal 1.1
    Pedone 3.0
    rofChade 2.3

  • @eh5048
    @eh5048 Před 5 lety +4

    I found it but only because I thought what would be the most unlikely move I would make

  • @abrahamespinoza7489
    @abrahamespinoza7489 Před 3 lety +23

    The captions read “Commie Gibberish” when he mentions Vishwanathan Anaand won the tournament, who made the captions?

    • @yornald2501
      @yornald2501 Před 3 lety +4

      Makes me think it was u

    • @ketan6182
      @ketan6182 Před 3 lety

      Dude it's auto generated, it's literally written there

  • @dritemorina6127
    @dritemorina6127 Před 4 lety

    The captions in this video are amazing

  • @sapphirewine7470
    @sapphirewine7470 Před 3 lety +1

    It really is a lot easier to find a move if youre told to look for it, but in the heat of the moment there is no way i would ever even consider that!

  • @specialperson335
    @specialperson335 Před 4 lety +33

    What the hell were this subtitles?😂😂

  • @Qira7beats
    @Qira7beats Před 5 lety +18

    6:14 wym your queen is hanging? Haha

    • @eskay6666
      @eskay6666 Před 4 lety +7

      After queen captures and knight captures. Rook to D2 captures bishop. You lose the bishop pair in an open position .
      But yeah the queen isn’t hanging tho

    • @rg7535
      @rg7535 Před 4 lety

      @@eskay6666 You also lose a pawn

    • @juela2092
      @juela2092 Před 3 lety

      i dont see the lost pawn but it is obv bad for white, the knight on c2 is pinned and and whites only options that dont lose a piece are either rc1 [after which the knight is still pinned and the rook cant move either, black has ...Rab8, bxa5 loses a piece to ...Rb7 and white obv doesnt want to alllow ...axb4 giving black three connected passed pawns so prob has to defend with Rf4 but all whites pieces are very badly placed.], or bb1, which is prob less bad but its the wrong square for the bishop, as well as blocking white's rook from coming to the b file, ...Rab8 is coming anyway and now bxa5 is again basically impossible due to ...Rxb1 winning two pieces for a rook (there is no need to do this immediately as white cant untangle, st like ...c5 first is better to bring the bishop into the game and only after white plays eg Rd1 or Rc1 do u play ...Rxb1. if you do not play bxa5, ...axb4 is a threat and in some lines black may have Rxc2 sacrificing the exchange to win the b pawn and create three connected passed pawns.

  • @als7960
    @als7960 Před 3 lety +1

    I always get such a sense of accomplishment when I find a pause video move lol

  • @memo-sn1gu
    @memo-sn1gu Před 2 lety

    I like the few seconds to pause the video, it gives you time to process.

  • @elpenguinoofmexico1388
    @elpenguinoofmexico1388 Před 5 lety +6

    8:54 what are the downsides of doing Rd4

  • @blyatmobile4069
    @blyatmobile4069 Před 4 lety +7

    I saw it and was like "haha imagine if he placed his bishop there" then he did

  • @mohamedalhoony
    @mohamedalhoony Před 3 lety

    I always just want to enjoy the show

  • @inkiblackman2625
    @inkiblackman2625 Před 3 lety

    In that position I’m sure its an extremely difficult move to find but in the context of this video and given the title I feel it is much much easier