Why I Sold my Husqvarna Norden 901 (and bought a KTM 890 Rally)
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I discuss why I chose to sell my Husqvarna Norden 901 and replace it with an 890 Rally from KTM. While they share a chassis and engine, the suspension along with other items is totally different. The 3 reasons for the move were suspension performance, aftermarket parts, and wind buffeting. Why did I stick with KTM since my Norden had issues?
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What is the soft top case you have on the Husky? Thanks.
The weak link on the Norden is the rear shock. It was way underspeced for that bike. The front suspension is actually quite good. I solved the shock problem by replacing the stock shock with an 890 Adventure R shock. I bought that shock brand new for around $1300 and applied a KTM lowering kit to it. That lowered the rear of the Norden by 1/2 inch. To compensate, I raised the fork tubes 1/2" in the triple clamps. Whalaah!!! Shock problem gone due to upgrade and bike is lowered 1/2" which is good for my 30" inseam.
I'm doing the same swap and springs and revalving the forks. The KTM is an insect and the Norden a thing of beauty so its worth it to me. Love the Norden, except the damn rear spring, oh, and the windscreen would be better without one, but other than that, bingo!
Awesome idea
@@BigRockMoto Not lowering it though, as I find it to be the height perfect. And I need the clearance riding on washed-out rocky jeep trails in the Colorado Rockies. I've brought this stock Norden places I would never bring my Africa Twin, with the new suspension it should go places where my buddies 690's go, well 95% or so, with a few drops maybe. But still, no comparison to the AT in the rough tough rocky stuff. Rode the T7 2600 miles around NE USA and SE Canada, it's a price point bike, a cheap little AT IMHO. The engine is brilliant but that's about it. Can't compare to the 890/Norden/AT. I don't think the AT compares well to the Norden, it's too big and topsy turvy.
This is what I've been searching Ian's amazing videos for. Actually the only problem I have seen with the norden, followed by a solution. Thanks for sharing.
Wind buffeting is a huge factor. My VStrom buffeted so badly in the middle of a two week trip, I tossed the windscreen in a bin of a parking lot. Pulled off of HWY 1 in CA into Pfeiffer park took it off and put it in the closest trash bin I could find. I never did put another on. Another great vlog, and useful. I was considering this bike, and now I understand it's not for me. I've got at least ten years on you, maybe 15, and my days of bombing around in the dirt are over. I like to putt-putt on dirt roads and good dual track. I don't camp anymore either, at my age everything hurts too badly sleeping on the ground. Not yet ready to leave the ADV life, just not that high level of dirt anymore. Thanks
Agreed about buffering, big issue
Ditto.
I put an Vario wind spoiler thing on my Strom, fixed the buffeting problem. But i sold the Strom because it sucked off road..lol
I hated the wind buffering on my vstrom to. Beat me to death at 70mph.
I'm there with you. I think the Norden fits the bill for me. Not really interested in doing high-speed runs off-road. Injuries take longer to heal too! :) I'm pushing 60 and I'm now satisfied with doing short runs, touring and exploring off-road rather than trying to get through it as quickly as possible. :)
If you weren’t happy with the customer service on the 901 I don’t see that buying a ktm would be any better
He won't be, but the joy of the 890 Rally probably makes up for it. I feel similar about my 890 ADV R. Horrendous CS from KTM corporate, but a few small issues, but the joy of riding the bike off sealed roads outweighs it.
Apparently, you did not watch the entire video.
He covers this several times did you not watch the video?
Yes watched the video. He’s not happy with the customer service. The fact that he’s willing to put up with possible reliability issues means he’s probably going to be let down again. Not knocking Ian at all, best adventure bike channel in the world hands down.
You comment seems to have attracted some rather negative comments, like Ian is inconsistent and being paid off. It was those I was more annoyed with. I agree love his channel.
Hi Ian, great series on the Norden. Big fan of all your videos. Does the arrival of the Norden Expedition change anything? Curious to hear your opinion as someone who had owned/tested pretty much everything out there.
Its almost looks like Husqvarna watched your video and made Expedition model after that 😂, thank you for all your great work by the way!
Thank you for the vid... You touched on a key factor when making a decision and that is compromise. Something so many people, including myself don't consider enough.
Your willingness to put up with the negatives, in terms of dealer attitude and support, for the positives of sheer riding bliss means ultimately you get a lot more from the riding experience.
Your decisions are weighted towards the 90% of the time it does right. Rather than the 10% of the time it doesn't. Life lessons in a Motorcycle Vlog :-)
Very good point
This is good clear thinking and an important point when making a decision.
For the record, my 790R's rear shock failed (lost all fluid, became a pogo stick) at 1,600 miles. Under KTM's instructions, my town's local KTM dealer rebuilt my motorcycle's shock. 1,000 miles later, it is still good. But I'm always wondering...
I waited 4 months for a replacement triple tree to come in under warranty from KTM. Ended up selling the bike because that useful warranty was a few months from being up. Loved the bike, 890R Duke, hated dealing with the dealership or KTM.
Thanks for sharing
@@freebehindbars8654 Truth.... People do not realize how important a good dealership is when owning a bike when things go wrong.... or at least more than one in your State/ area. Part of the reason Harley Davidson is so successful in the USA, the dealerships are everywhere and if one is bad just go to the other .... A lot of the Japanese brands have horrible corporate type Jet Ski / quad setups where the people do not know much about motorcycles......
I used to go to a small local KTM dealership. They where mostly off-road enduro oriented and where the kind of shop that let you watch the mechanic work on your bike, give some diy advise and knew what bike you ride by saying your name on the phone.
To bad KTM got bigger and bigger and demanded big stock and demo bike standards.for their dealerships which they could not meet. Now the KTM dealerships are the big anonymous dealerships selling all kinds of big brands and only interested in selling more and more.
@@DB-me3jt True ! I worked as a mechanic ( Now called Tech..lol. ) at a Mom and Pop Harley dealership in the 90's and Harley forced them out of business by requiring them to build one of those huge Mc Dealerships.. When the economy tanked they went out of business after being a Harley / Suzuki and originally Triumph dealer since after WW2 ! Very sad as they were very involved in riding racing and the community.... And the customers were allowed to watch us work ! lol...
I have always related to your decision making process and the logic of your thinking. Its what makes your videos so interesting and informative and your opinions are important to me because of it. No doubt there will be some disappointed subscribers out there, but I'm sure they will understand. Another great video
Great video. I have a 790 Rally and love to push it hard. Looking forward to seeing more content from you!
Great layout of the differences between the Husky and KTM. The important thing is the new bike meets your requirements. When all is said and done, if it makes you happy and puts a big ol smile on your face, it is the right choice. Best wishes on many happy miles ahead Ian!
Cheers!
Agreed
So happy for you, Ian!! You’ve got a heck of a bike with the Rally and can’t wait for more content. Thanks for all the great videos!! I just added a 007 Tiger 900 and ready for some adventures….!
Important advise for 790/890 RALLY Owners. This Pro suspension comes with road settings and I've seen a lot off owners riding it offroad without tuning the clicks correctly for offroad. Also springs are for heavy riders. You can have the best suspension in the world but if you don´t do correct settings yo have nothing. I'm totally in love with mine.
people say theis bike is unreliable. Your opinion?
@@paoloc3318 if you feel that this bike is unreliable because of what people say, don't buy it
@@MotorDanko well these opinions did not appear out of nowhere. There are not gossips they are real life experiences
@@paoloc3318 ktm changed me a motor under warranty. A problem in factory assembling but as I far as I know, not a recurrent problem with that. That was a big one but they give me a substitution bike for that month. Other than that, just small things solved during normal maintenance.
@@paoloc3318 I'm not saying they are fake, i'm trying to say that is true, don't buy it...
I’m still enjoying my 790 r. I usually don’t buy the same bike or model twice but decided months ago that I would sell my 790 r for an 890 rally because it’s been the best bike I’ve owned so far and the upgrades in the rally would take it to the next level. In my mind, no other mid-weight bike compares and I have considered others. It’s also been rock solid reliable for me and I mostly ride off-road.
I had a 790 advR and my dealer called me to tell me they got an 890 Rally in and gave me first dibs on it. The 890 motor is such a leap of performance over the 790 with its heavier flywheel that resists stalling. The Rally kit is premium and you do notice the big hit performance over the stock suspension. I’ve taken my rally out on mini MX tracks and had a blast riding it like a EXC. I did swap my rally seat for the lower SeatConcepts seat. The orange thread and carbon look really pops on the Rally
Please do a video on the Norden 901 Expedition.
My 2019 790R has over 23,000 miles now and has been problem free. It is an absolute blast to ride and amazes me every time it tackles gnarly stuff with ease. I did add the Camel ADV rear shock protector and highly recommend it. Cheap insurance against heat damage. Cheers
I am happy for you although it is odd that you state you didn't appreciate the KTM support on the Husky and then bought a KTM.
He literally is captain inconsistent.
Hard to pass on these fun machines.
I thought the same thing, Lol
A good dealership means everything...
he explained exactly why and even repeated the exact simple reason why a few times ""PERFORMANCE""!!! the ktm890husky901 pkg is simply the absolute hands down best performing adventure bike set up made today and by a margin esp off road !! he has resources , connections and money both and found a "Rally" bike for sale , the only few ive seen for sale were at or north of $25k usd and by the time i saw the add already sold even at that $ !! i am building the 901 instead
Thanks Ian. Great job. Good info. God bless. Happy trails.
Thanks for the video!!! I happy to see theres another coming out, about the performance!!! Can you make a review also about the 1290 super adv R?!?!? That one is in my candidate’s list but there are few reviews, i like the objectiveness of you videos and also non biased critics 💯💯💯
Been watching an awful lot of your videos, so detailed thoughtful and from the heart. I had so bought into the Husqvarna Norden 901, and now I see THIS video. But what I can say is I'm not shocked, at all. Wind buffeting has always been a pet peeve of mine. On my old Ducati st4s, I had two of them, the wind buffeting was pretty bad in my Arai helmet. With that, wind issue can make or break aong ride (even w/ear plugs). Thanks for your detailed motorcycle reviews. I am on board with your sale of the Husqvarna. Thanks.
Thanks for the follow-up on your decision on the 901
Dude, you got the best job in the world! Thanks for sharing!
The giggling and your expression at the end says it all about the performance of the bike. I’m a luck owner. Reliability has been ok. The issues I did encounter were all rejected by KTM warranty which confirms the lack off dealer/warranty support in North America. Great bike from a company that cares more about performance than customer service.
My riding partner upgrade to the XP Pro on his 890R. I can confirm your pricing quote.
Ride safe as you will ride it off-road faster than anything you’ve ever ridden.
Looking forward to more of your reviews on the Rally.
The review on the Tenere still my fav......Great channel
Ian, another great and honest comparison. For all the pre-release teaser videos it’s staggering to me that the Norden is flawed as it is especially the wind buffeting issue which is pretty much a universal concern. I love the styling but form has won over function as is so often the case. I have no off-road pretensions or real opportunities so comfort on-road plays a much greater part in my deliberations. An amalgam of both bikes is the holy grail it seems. I’ll be sticking with my ATAS DCT ES for now. Cheers, Ian
You just reminded me how good this bike really is. Looking forward to the review and to pricing used KTMs lol.
Gorgeous bike, looking forward to your review
Nice overview of what sounds to be the pinnacle of the mid size options. Still convinced that one bike can’t do it all, so I’m still sticking with my GS & if the single track urge gets to strong will buy a 3-500 dual sport.
That's what my buddy and I did. Kept our Dual Sports, and got an Adventure bike.
Thanks for the excellent, informative video's and content!
Waiting for the Norden Expedition review!
you are right that was a better move resale value wise for sure and for you the better solution , i intend to keep mine and mile it out so i went the other way and built the 901 , Tractive Extreme suspension at both ends for half the cost of the WP-pro , and threw the whole Rottwieller Performance catalogue at it more/Less , the suspension is being installed as im typing this i cannot wait to try it out !! and just yesterday installed the Tusk Olympic rack and panniers , hands down best value out there far as i see
Hearing that joyful laugh when you ride is the most intoxicating reason to want to own one.... 😊
😂😂😂👍🏼 True 👏
Joyful laugh or Sinister giggle?
Excellent Video again. Would love to see a suspension setup video for the bike.
I was just telling my daughter about you and your Norton 901. Then this video pops up. Cheers 🍻
Great video. I got a near new 790R awesome machine, wind buffering was horrible and surprising for what is a well sorted bike (IMO) A $15 Ebay adjustable diffuser for the screen sorted that out and improved the head wobble by 90%.
Nice, nice bike man👍.
Like your KTM style🙂.
Waiting for more vids.
Love the honesty Ian, great bike!
Ian… A brilliant video !
My friend came to the same conclusion with the 901! utterly fascinating
Love to hear your opinion on the Husqvarna Norden 901 Expedition, now with the new windshield en WP Xplor / Pro suspension.
I heard all the after market parts for the 890 R will work on the Norden 901, so I'm not really understanding why you made that comment, except for the windscreen I definitely understand you on that note. Great video Ian another reason why I subscribe, and I love both bikes!
6:55 "Holy Shet! Ha, ha, ha, ha! Oh my god!"
I sincerely hope that helps explain my decision making process.🤣🤣🤣
Nice bike. I’m looking forward to your assessment. Thanks
If you ever get to make this a full time job, please do. Outstanding review as always
I bought the 901 on your say so, Ian. And, I'm still happy. I weigh 230lbs and have not had any bottoming out issues yet...probably due to my old age (67). At 6 feet, but 32" inseam I have no buffeting issues. But, I don't have a ADV helmet (yet), but Shoei Qwest. Maybe the screen and helmet combo makes a difference. I'll mod my suspension before trading this great buy. I still giggle like you did in the vid...same engine eh. Price difference in Canada between the T7 and 901 makes the Husky choice a no brainer. Plus a cheap 4 year unlimited mileage extension gives me 6 years of no worries....really.
One of the biggest things I liked about the concept of the Norden was that it gives you enough tech to correct your riding, while still being able to haul ass on it offroad. Just from the couple of clips, it appears the 890 gives you that same feeling of the bike "riding for you", with better suspension and after market support.
But on another note with that in mind, I'm really looking forward to the Tenere World Raid making its way to the states and seeing your impressions and reviews compared to the experience you have on the other bikes.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think that KTM looks awesome!
What an absolute great bike! I have bought a standard 890 adventure because where I live there is no place you can ride off-road! So enjoy it man! 👍✌️😀
Great commentary. Thanks.
I feel that no matter how good your bike is you can never buy skill i understand if you have the money an expensive bike is a fair purchase but ive been keeping up with my friends pimped out ktms on my old dr 650 for years and wouldnt change it (: but again great reviews definitely the best reviewer ive seen very professional! Would you ever consider reviewing any older bikes like the dr 650 or the xr range or maybe an old bmw f650
Ian, now that it's out, it would be interesting to see your take on the Norden 901 Expedition... Still not as dirt focused as the 890 Rally but all the upgrades you wanted for way less than your $7K suspension quote.
Nice explanation of your decision making process. Now looking forward to seeing your 1st review of the 890 rally. Much interested by your trading with such a high seat height. Of course a suspension comparison with the 890R would be interesting: are the R Rally suspensions worth the price increase from the R ?
Great content as always...which wind spoiler are you using and have luck with?
Thanks as always. Sweet new bike of course and I get your reasoning for the swap. Pretty sold on the Norden partly because of your videos. My dealer mentioned hearing news of a possible new Norden model with off-road upgrades coming I might wait to check out as I’ve got some time. Until then I’ll keep practicing with my dual sports, Husky te300i and work my way up to the adventure bike world.
Thanks again for the great content and Enjoy! 🏍💨
I have the Norden and while my explorer software was being installed my dealer showed me a picture of the 23 model. Looks great with a very good looking blue lettering. I didnt see anything about suspension but next years model is definitely in the works.
Yeah, it has the touring windscreen and WP Xplor suspension from factory. Looks amazing.
its just the suspension thats a let down on the Norden , and to me the cable clutch both if which are easy fixes , Tractive suspension and Magura hydro clutch kit both being installed this week i cannot wait to try it out !!!!!
@@shassabo that windshield is supposed to be available this month according to my dealer , and i keep checking with GIVI who has been developing one
@@justsomedude445 Sweet! I was very disappointed that the Norden uses a cable. My 690 is hydraulic. Whatever reasoning they have for cable operated I'm pretty sure I'll disagree. I'll also be looking up Magura as soon as I finish this text, so thanks for the name drop.🙂
heers for the great video , im riding a 390 ktm adventure which is very different to what i have been riding ktm250exc 2 stroke /ktm 500 exc , question . do you find it a pain to pick up after dropping it ? as im 6.1 and have been caught with the 390 . so much harder to get back up . cheers
Finding a Rally version WOW. I have the Adventure R and I love it.
Great choice! Smiles can’t be measured.
Some quick Googling suggests the Rally is $20k! At that price, it had better be the middleweight performance king! I test rode the 890R recently and really enjoyed it, great bike. So much power than the T7 I had it's not even really fair to compare them. The offroad chops are lost on me though. I was interested in the 901 but I am pretty sensitive to wind buffeting. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
To the point, crisp & clear!
i'm at 11.000 kms in 3 months with Norden, and couldn't be happier. with my weight of 65kgs, i can hit jumps and agressive trails while packed. my preload is always at max tho.
Ian we share a name, a passion and now we share a need! You are one up on me, you own an 890 Rally. I’m in Australia 🇦🇺 and they are impossible to find
Hola!
Gracias por tus aportaciones! ¿Que opinas de la Norden Expedition con respecto a la KTM 890R ?
Just picked up a new 2023 Norden (standard model) for $14500 CDN ($11000 USD) 2 year warranty. The 2024 sta dard model ( unchanged other than colour) was 3k more and the expedition 6.5k more (if you could actually find one). Don't ride hard enough off road that the rear shock should be a problem, but if it is, a couple grand should solve it. Not that I would want to do it, but I saw on another channel that removing the hangaurds almost completely eliminated the buffetting.
How would you compare your previous 2020 790 Adventure R to your new 890 Adventure R rally? Should I upgrade?? My 790 R has had no shock issues or any of the common problems that Ive seen on youtube. I paid cash for my 2020 790 Adventure R. back in 2020, And I love this bike! It has more than enough HP for me,, I don't really need 5 more HP. Plus Im not one to jump 40 feet into the air. So maybe I'm good with the stock 2020 KTM 790 Adventure R suspension . I'm curious if the Rally mode is any different compared to the 790. Thanks in advance for answering my ??
HAPPY TRAILS!!
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Excellent video! Very clear and specific points made. I have looked at KTM website and it is not clear to me what the seat height is. I think it is about 33 inches or more. Do you know if this bike or the 890 Standard comes with a lowering kit and if so how much does it effect the suspension? I am thinking about the bike as a daily rider and getting around. I am not sure about the off road stuff. Thanks
Great vid, as always ! :)
Wich size of visor do you use ?
for you that was the move and just finding a true 'Rally' model to buy is a feat in itself , i looked but to no avail , and you can upgrade that suspension for half of that or less but resale value your right
Will you be getting the new nordon 901 expedition? Love the videos!!
Ian great channel i watch alot of your videos, how many miles do you have on the 890R now and have you had any issues, im struggeling to chose between the african twin and the 890R.
The Norden has round mirrors, the KTM 890 does not.
Change the mirrors on the Norden and much of the perceived buffeting will go. Round mirrors generate vortices which come rattling past your ears.
That's interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!
I’m glad you upgraded to the 880 rally, but it has all the dings that also hated about your 790 such as the wind buffeting, cable clutch, wonky fuel gauge, etc.
can’t wait for the 890 review! I’m torn between the 690 enduro and 890 rally
I had a Penske rear shock built for my KTM 890 Adventure. $ 1200 +/-
Fully adjustable , including height, so I lowered the rear about 1 inch, along with my forks.
The Norden probably has the best aftermarket support for a new bike ever, because it’s literally an 890 and the new OEM touring screen is shipping already.
Justification statements are always a trap. Just say you got hella excited for an 890 Rally because it’s bad ass! :)
True
Devious laughing followed by “holy shit” and more laughing… love it! 🤣🤣🤣 can’t wait for the full review.
Glad you found the right bike. I love the look of the Norden, but man the 890 does look aggressive from the side. Like it's just waiting to bomb down the trail. - Frank
Frank!!
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Enjoying mine though it took a little bit to really warm up to it due to a couple of factors that had nothing to do with the bike. I've never been a suspension guy, just ride what is there and I've not touched the setup on my 890 other than fork compression settings and I was impressed that there was a noted difference in the fork's performance with a few clicks, not my experience with my WPs on my 300. This weekend I'll set SAG, fork height and make some minor adjustments to the clicker settings based on my preferences, but so far I can confirm it lands off small jumps like a dirt bike, eats small whoops and tracks true. Mine being a non-rally model this video has me curious about the pro suspension, maybe next time lol.
Currently considering 890 Adventure R or a base AT to replace my heavily modified gen 2 KLR650. Also have a 500 EXCF. Problem is I haven't rode either. None of the dealers near me have demo bikes. I'm leaning to the 890 Adv R but it does seem it has more noted issues than the AT. Looking to make this a daily commuter, touring, and BDR bike. What would you recommend sir? Congrats on the Rally, wish I could spring for that extra.
I get why you switched to the 890, but I sold my 890 for some of the same reasons you sold your Norden. Namely, poor QC and indifference (really, flat-out disregard) from KTM regarding honoring their warranty.
My front wheel was out of round when I bought the 890, resulting in wheel hop, and KTM refused to fix it, even after acknowledging the hop. My TFT often fogged horribly (could not even read my speed or use the menus), even after a replacement, and they refused to replace it again. Those were the worst two issues, but there were others.
Off pavement, it was the best handling ADV bike I’ve ever ridden. But I will never buy a KTM bike again.
I hear you 100%
My KTM always seemed cheaply ( Switches ect.. ) made compared to my Ducati.........
@@DJPTEXAS Because it's Chinese?
@@richardsimpson3792 No just not as high a quality fit and finish.
my dad an i rejected two 390 advs for the tft isues at 147 an 269 miles an more problems with his as well, i keep thinking about a norden or an at at the mo
I can’t wait for the 890 Rally review
I wonder if you will be swapping back to the Norden 901 Expedition? I've got an appointment next week to test ride one. If the ride goes well, I will bring it home.
I think wind buffeting is being caused by air from the lower fairing and around the headlight area. This air is aimed upwards at the rider's shoulders and mixes with the air coming off the sides of the windscreen, forming a turbulent vortex that shakes the helmet. Narrow adventure bikes seem to have this common problem.
Dat intake "chirp" sound on the ktm ....so nice!
KTM may be unreliable for some, but I've had nine of them since 2007 and have had only minor issues.
I've had 3 (albeit pure dirt bikes) over the last 10 years and they have all been trouble free.
Me too
I ride a 950 Adv from 2004. 145000 km on the clock. Runs strong..
U keep selling them no wonder they are reliable
I still love my 901 but yes, the rear shock is soggy, cranking up the preload helped quite a bit... over 1,500 miles and so far so good... wind noise eh.. yeah... over 45mph it's a bit much... I'm short though so I bet an extender would work fine for me. Aftermarket parts will come eventually if they keep making this model... when I ask myself "do I ride KTM 890 aggressive?" I have to say mostly, no... do I get into some situations that I wish I had a better skid plate and beefier shock, yeah, definitely. All in all I'll keep my 901, if the shock blows up, it gets replaced.
I wished I lived closer to you I would have loved to buy your fully spec'd up Norden!
As you do you review of the Rally I would encourage you to do some comparisons to the Norden. I have a Norden and like you ride it mostly in more difficult offroad situations (live in the mountains of Colorado). I love my Norden except one thing...the suspension in general. For me neither the shock or forks are up to par. I'm seriously considering spending the $ for the 270mm Explorer Pro set up. I keep a bike forever when I buy one so the $7k I really don't care about that much (my previous ADV bike was a 1994 R100GSPD with over 100k miles). My suspension concerns are how do the Explorer Pro ride on road vs the Norden, and how much taller is the seat height. I know the offroad will be significantly better but don't want to give up on road comfort either (which I have read is a downfall for the 890 R). Thanks for all your past and future insight!!
Heey Ian from the way you are laughing while riding the 890 makes me want to buy it right now, that is the sound of pure joy. Could you try and get the new yamaha world raid and see how it compares thanks.
hi! do you feel like you miss out on touring/tarmac capabilities now and comfort?
Hi Ian. I currently own a first generation Africa Twin (2017) and according to many adv motorcycle reporters, the suspension is soft-sprung which also appears to be the case with the Norden (especially the rear shock). That said, I will be taking delivery of my new 2023 Norden on March 16th and since you owned a 1st gen Africa Twin, how does the Norden compare suspension-wise? Since I didn't have an opportunity to ride the Norden in many off-road situations, I'm hoping the suspension is better than what's on the 2017 AT? I would appreciate your insight. Thanks.
Thank you, it's my 2023 current buying dilemma
Your bike looks rad as hell. Like it eats other bikes for breakfast. Awesome looking, love it =)
Hi Ian, I was looking at a review the other day on a 2017 africa twin. The guy was complaining about wind buffeting. It was coming from between the fuel tank and the handlebars. I can't remember, but he said he bought either a plastic piece or aluminum, that is made to stop the air flow from coming through there. That is unreal about the rear shock of the nordon. I finally got a chance to see the africa twin a couple of weeks ago. It was a dct. Brand spanking new "2022 "and 0 miles. It had a oil leak. The dealer said that they tightened some bolts and they believed that they fixed it. There's no way I would buy a brand new bike that is leaking oil. I'm not interested in the dct anyway. Not knocking it. But the first time I took it off road, I'd be regretting it. Also, the guy who had the 2017 AT had the front and rear shocks changed out with a stiffer setup. I guess no bike is absolutely perfect. I like the KTM, but I think they just require to much maintenance for me.
Another excellent video.Great. I prefer less off-road bikes. I'm interested in your opinion. Would you spend less money on the V-Strom 650 or more money on the Versys 1000? I am solo rider, mainly rides 100-150 km, around the house, outside the city, outside the highway, 3-4 thousand km per year. The V-Strom 650 in my country now costs 8400 euro and the base model Versys 1000 costs 12400 euro. In addition, the fuel consumption is 4 L/100 km vs 6 L/100 km... I also have the money for the Versys. I'm still hesitating whether the higher money for the difference between the bikes is adequate. Especially with my little use. Which of these bikes would you invest your own money in? Thank you for the advice. And above all, keep up the videos.
I just ordered the Desert X - I think its a great adventure bike ... I will just need to deepen up that exhaust :-) Would be interested to hear how your Rally handles on road - those tyres look really biased to track?
I always wondered about your choice of the Norden vs an ADVR or Rally, but then I am very biased since I giggle a LOT riding my 890 ADVR on dirt - the Rally must be even more fun!
Hello Ian, I'm very interested in getting an adventure bike and I want to be able to do some light/medium offroad and long-distance riding too... I am undecided between the Africa Twin 2023 AS(since it has a 19" front wheel), the Ducati Desert X, and the Huskqvarna Norden 901 Expedition. I always come and go between these and I believe my mentality is similar to yours (the best for the buck) and I think Husqy is the way to go. But I need your opinion on picking one of them. Which one would you buy if you were me? Thanks and sorry about the long question=) Love the content and wish you good luck.
Keep an eye on your AXP skid plate. Some people are getting the flange melt through the bottom from the exhaust .
Everybody listen: I am from the future. The lack of reliability, wind protection, and overall rider comfort eventually becomes too much for Ian to handle with this rally, Much as it did with his 790R! What follows will be several videos espousing the strengths of the 890 rally, followed by a final disillusionment video warning prospective buyers of its weaknesses!
I know this is probably shocking news to you. Ian is about to go through a very authentic reversal of previously held opinions about this motorcycle. He needs your support. I've risked opening a dimensional rift sharing this information.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank for breaking the time continuum.
Ha. Gotta keep cranking out that CZcams content I guess.
@JF are you suggesting the 23 Norden "Expedition" will be the latest, greatest cure all?
I think I was married to his sister once...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ian,
Should I sell my 2021 KTM 890 base to buy a 2022 Nordon 901. I like the Husky body style and color. The suspension has compression and rebound on the front forks opposed to none on the base 890 which I've bottomed out a lot. It may cost me another $2k. Is it worth it? As a 61-year-old, my off-road riding has been tapered down quite a bit so I don't need an 890R or Rally. Is it worth it or do you think I'm just wasting money for different body style and color change? Ray