It's very interesting to notice that this is the third revision of the piece. Albeit less substantial than the one he did in 1998, he still changed a few things, especially in the first and third movement.
Do you know if this is from 3/17, 3/18, or 3/19? I attended the 3/18 "Casual Friday" performance and it is a pleasure to hear this again while under quarantine. I remember when the piece was over, Stephane Deneve pointed out John Williams who was sitting Center Floor and everyone gave him a round of applause. I had only ever been exposed to Williams' film scores, so this really made me see him in a new light. I immediately bought this on Williams' "Tree Song" album. On the album, Williams conducts, also with Gil Shaham. In comparing, I really like what Deneve brings to the table. Thanks for sharing!
#JohnWilliams' compositions for film prove that he's an all-time great composer and his pieces are certainly the most well-known and loved. It's a real disappointed that his work away from movies are so modern, #dissonant and non-melodic. His Symphony No.1 hasn't even been recorded and was only performed a few times, so I dread to think how horrible it must sound. You can argue that Williams is actually the greatest composer of all, but the lack of symphonies and concerti in the Romantic Classical style undermines that.
I am not sure you even heard Williams' film music as he is certainly more 'dissonant' and 'modern' than he is in most of his concert works. By definition every piece that a series of notes has a melody. You might mean that it is not thematic. But it clearly has very defined themes. If you cannot hear them, that is your problem (but let's not forget that the 'no melody' argument was even used for Brahms' symphonies!). As for the style of this concerto, it can be described as post-romantic: it is clearly romantic in spirit, it has classical forms (and even neo classical passages) but uses modern compositional techniques. What makes me laugh regarding Williams' concert works is that either people complains about it not being romantic enough while the others complain that he is too romantic...If people would stop being prejudiced, it would do a great lot to music. Shostakovich and Bartok were great (and popular) composers that did not (always) write 'romantic' music. Richard Strauss was a great composer that did write romantic music. Why can't we like all of that? As for Williams' first symphony, it was in fact rather well received from the audience, the critics pointed out that it had forms problem. It is not played today because Williams did not publish it. He did a revision in the 80s or 90s, and it was programmed, but decided against playing it. He, in fact, rarely plays his own concert works, not being confident about it.
Man, I hate it when great artists produce a huge wealth of work that I love but then have the temerity to also show versatility and great craft beyond my narrow tastes. Why can't people just do the one thing I like and stick to that? Such a disappointment.
A great piece of gem , it shows versatility of John Williams.
quite a different side of the John Williams we have grown used to over the years...
John Williams!!!
It's very interesting to notice that this is the third revision of the piece. Albeit less substantial than the one he did in 1998, he still changed a few things, especially in the first and third movement.
Love this work, used to own in on LP in the 80s, I bought the recording at Michael's Music Room (now no longer trading), in Town Hall Arcade, Sydney.
Do you know if this is from 3/17, 3/18, or 3/19? I attended the 3/18 "Casual Friday" performance and it is a pleasure to hear this again while under quarantine. I remember when the piece was over, Stephane Deneve pointed out John Williams who was sitting Center Floor and everyone gave him a round of applause. I had only ever been exposed to Williams' film scores, so this really made me see him in a new light. I immediately bought this on Williams' "Tree Song" album. On the album, Williams conducts, also with Gil Shaham. In comparing, I really like what Deneve brings to the table.
Thanks for sharing!
It was indeed the recording of the day you attended the concert.
John Williams should go modernist more often, if only Jerry Goldsmith was still around to write some more concert pieces.
#JohnWilliams' compositions for film prove that he's an all-time great composer and his pieces are certainly the most well-known and loved.
It's a real disappointed that his work away from movies are so modern, #dissonant and non-melodic. His Symphony No.1 hasn't even been recorded and was only performed a few times, so I dread to think how horrible it must sound.
You can argue that Williams is actually the greatest composer of all, but the lack of symphonies and concerti in the Romantic Classical style undermines that.
I am not sure you even heard Williams' film music as he is certainly more 'dissonant' and 'modern' than he is in most of his concert works.
By definition every piece that a series of notes has a melody. You might mean that it is not thematic. But it clearly has very defined themes. If you cannot hear them, that is your problem (but let's not forget that the 'no melody' argument was even used for Brahms' symphonies!).
As for the style of this concerto, it can be described as post-romantic: it is clearly romantic in spirit, it has classical forms (and even neo classical passages) but uses modern compositional techniques.
What makes me laugh regarding Williams' concert works is that either people complains about it not being romantic enough while the others complain that he is too romantic...If people would stop being prejudiced, it would do a great lot to music. Shostakovich and Bartok were great (and popular) composers that did not (always) write 'romantic' music. Richard Strauss was a great composer that did write romantic music. Why can't we like all of that?
As for Williams' first symphony, it was in fact rather well received from the audience, the critics pointed out that it had forms problem. It is not played today because Williams did not publish it. He did a revision in the 80s or 90s, and it was programmed, but decided against playing it. He, in fact, rarely plays his own concert works, not being confident about it.
modernism bad! "Romantic Classical style" (which isn't even a thing) good! (eyeroll)
Man, I hate it when great artists produce a huge wealth of work that I love but then have the temerity to also show versatility and great craft beyond my narrow tastes. Why can't people just do the one thing I like and stick to that? Such a disappointment.
I hate your use of hashtags more than I could hate any form of music.
@@HyShroomOfficial bruh