Yamaha R7 vs R6! - I'm so Disappointed! - Surfin Souvlak
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I think the issue with the R7 is the naming. Not informed would think it is a successor to the r6
Yep Yamaha's marketing fucked up on this one
so what would you call it? the R line is the racing line. not a whole lotta options when it comes to naming
@@williambrewer855 oh man. RT-7, R-07,RT-07, etc anything Except R7 to where the common person would assume it is an upgrade to the R6 and when the original R7 was a bona fide race bike with turn signals...
Yep… he doesnt get who and what its made for
Now that i think of it it does make sense, the R6 is discontinued, the R9 is coming, so the R line is gonna be R125, R3, R7, R9 and finally R1.
Pretty good line up
Dude you should do a longer special episode when you get the gsxr back. I can’t wait to see it cleaned up again
Big facts that's mandatory
That was the funniest shit I’ve seen, laughed my ass off when you strapped that tree to Jake. Looked like you paid for lunch, btw.
The hustler gets hustled
I finally was able to beat him across the intersection ahahah, yeah the tree was a interesting experience
I like my R7, but it's pretty tame. That's why having a second bike is a must for me. The trick is making my wife understand that.
Every Home Depot has a guy like that in the parking lot 🔥😂
Somepeople have no shame or awareness to be on the line, i told a lady at lowes when i worked there she was taking up 2 spots and she said one more thing ill tell your manager 🤣🤣
The R7/MT07 imo is the best all around bike. Most people only diss the R7 shearly on the hp number they see on paper. Ive ridden a ton of sportbike from Busas all the way down to 250s and i had more fun ripping the smaller bikes. Its more fun to me to ride a small bike fast than a fast bike slow.
same
The Yamaha CP2 motor sounds great once you get the stock exhaust off and put on a pipe that breathes!
blast pipe
Just think if The Kleb was there with that tree he would never have to jump in a bush in a parking lot again.
"when the business goes belly up, you can just jump out" 😂 my style of joke
well we know the r6 can haul a tree, the r7? questionable.
r6: 1
r7: 0
If your R6 doesnt handle better than an R7, your tires are too squared off, you need more track days, and you need to set your suspension to your weight. You live in cali, hit up dave moss.
Or the R7 just handles better.
Can agree with this. The R6 is an amazing corner and curve conqueror machine. Only other motorcycle in the same class to come close is Honda and it's still leagues away from it. I don't doubt the "R7" is tuned well by Yamaha, but I do doubt it surpasses the R6 in agility.
@@EjinRenos I think the R7 is very much like the Ninja 400. People place solid laptimes and have tons of fun on a stock Ninja400, but when they upgrade the suspension(a lot), get better tires, get a nice tune on it: presto, you have a fun and great handling bike that is only about 4 seconds short of beating 1000cc times.
THAT SAID, the R7 is MORE capable than a Ninja 400, and all the suspension problems with the MT-07 where fixed. BUT, the R6 was set up out of the box as a race ready bike, simple as that. If you weigh 190lbs or less, no exhaust changes or tunes, no upgrades to chassis or suspension, maybe pull the plug on the abs. You can go from a beginner group track day rider, to a semi-pro race license holder. Thats not something the R7 can do stock, its a bike they built intentionally to have POTENTIAL that way it would be a fun and comfy street bike that you could ride fast if you wanted to do some upgrades.
As for R6 vs CBR, I own both platforms. Given my cbr is a 2017 1000, but ive ridden many cbr600s. The only cbr600 to buy is 07-08. All the others are out of date, slow, and are a bitch to work on. But honda and yamaha are different. Yamaha builds the R6 with power first then handling. My 2017 R6 is angry and twitchy on slow speeds, but once you get it above 10k, you are faster than any 600, and the bikes handling just gets so much better when its going fast. The cbr600 has its chassis built around cornering, with the engine as an after thought. The cbr will out handle any R6 on a smaller track, you wanna drag knee, cbr will do it where the R6 will make you prove yourself by going fast to drag knee. That said its not uncommon for the 2017+ R6's to make 115 on a full system and air filter alone. Throw in some fine tuning and light engine work and for cheap you can get a 120whp R6.
My friend owns a retired 2007 Erion Racing HRC CBR600, it was a backup bike that never saw a race, he uses it for his track bike. That bike has about $15k in engine work and it touches 126whp, full ohlines front and rear, brembos...ect, and a 2008-2020 R6 with about $2k in engine work could pull the exact same power figure and handle just as well.
@@EjinRenos CZcamsrs are normal riders like any other rider on the road, always remember to take what they say with a grain of salt with sportbikes unless they have a track or racing history(even then Yaminoob says a LOT of wrong info)
This concludes my Ted Talk, thank you for coming.
First 50 seconds of the show... that motor sounds SO Freaking Good! The new Love & Passion joint looks great. Nice work man... nice work.
I've been a car guy since day one but there really is just something extremely enticing about a bike. Really considering this R7 right now
start smaller and cheaper dont let your ego guide your first bike purchase you can always get that bike later.
@@alexduey7868 I have ridden a little bit on really small bikes here and there (150s and 250s). I have a pretty good idea of the fundamentals and stuff but I'll wait until I have a permit and do the safety course before I buy a bike
Get a used r3 on Facebook marketplace
@@alexduey7868 shut up dude. I started on a busa lol and I was 17. Starting on a sMaLLeR bike is a myth. Fact is you’ll out grow a small bike fast.
@@KlNGOFFICIAL I don't know that a Busa is the move for me right out of the gate but I do agree with the statement that it is probably a lot easier to learn the basics on something that won't try to kill you while you learn. But having done that I think a 600 or 700 is a pretty good place to start
lmao the tree portion had me rolling
It really stumped me how they didnt get a apple tree, it would be more interesting
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 yeah apple tree woulda been top tier lol
“This isn’t gonna work” “I WOULD LIKE TO BUY THIS TREE”
All I can thing at 4:12 when I see the skinny markers is, “Hey look. CALTRANS is planting the Indiana state flower”
My only issue is the name R7. It’s a gdmf’ing MT-07r
So by that logic every car/truck/suv that comes with an LS is a Corvette lol
@@lakaiskates8064 a better example would be if you put the name Corvette on a Spark. Pull your head out
@@Red5 My point was you're comparing a bike because they have the same engine... and you're talking about a 4 cylinder shit box... Smoke another one.
@@lakaiskates8064 same engine, same frame = same bike. They 8 lbs of fairings to make idiots think it’s something new 😂😂😂
@@Red5 Shows how little you really know.
R7 has a stronger more rigid frame, shorter wheel base, steeper rake, inverted front fork, slipper clutch, clip ons etc.. I guarantee if you rode both you wouldn't be saying they are the same bike.
It's not like the CB650R and the CBR650R, where it is just a full fairing'd version, the r7 is track oriented and the mt-07 is meant for anyone, anywhere.
I am so glad i found your channel back after 3 years of not watching and not owning a bike!
This is my first time ever seeing one of your videos and you are fucking hilarious dude. Your commentary the way you speak the dialogue lol fuckin killing me
I hope he sees your message. He truly has quality content he and BakerxDerek are probably my top 2 for your reasons mentioned
@@jacobclement7707 he sounds just like my sense of humor its amazing.
Love the longer videos. Goes great with my Taco Bell lunch.
Personally, not a huge fan of the R7, especially with the marketing strategy from Yamaha.
Dude, I started watching your videos in 2015 when I started riding and your videos still entertain me as much today as they did then. Thank you for the countless hours of entertainment you’ve given me over the years!
Great video! And congrats to Lap motorsports 👍
That was hilarious! Reminds me of Klaus and the Dummy!
That's impressive getting the tree to L.A.P very nice👍🏼
I was excited for the r7...... Until i found out it only had 80hp and wasnt even as fast as a 600 😕😒. I think its a definite failure.... But people keep trying to sell them. "Oh its fun to ride" .... So it a 400 buy one of those and save the money
That's kinda the problem. Assuming the displacement numbering system relates to actual power or capability. The "R7" may be have 700cc displacement but it's not an inline FI4 which is proven superior engine. So a 650 people would assume is faster than a R6. Or GSXR600. Or Zx6r. Etc etc. Because it is a bigger number. But even an SV1000 and its ilk has trouble going against a proper "R" 600cc bike, because its engine isn't built for performance ability. Same issue with this poorly named motorcycle. Yamaha should've just named it the YZF700...
@@EjinRenos well it should.... They made it an R bike..... Its an r7 not a v star... I expected it to be a step up from the 6 and a little less than a liter bike..... But its not even as fast as the 600... They should have made it a cruiser instead.... Its a failure fpr a race bike as far as im concerned..... Its like an expensive 400
@@EjinRenosso what's an R3 then, not an R bike either, why is there no In-line 4 R4? By what account is a 4 cylinder a "superior proven engine"? Does it cost less to run, more reliable and fuel efficient? Does it focus on real skill or just compensate for the "I go fast crowd"? If 600 inline 4's are so amazing why have sales been failing for years, why must Brands then invest in emissions innovation on bikes that don't sell properly in the first place. Why does it need to be faster than a R6 anyway, and if you want faster inline 4 then just get an R1? Why would anyone be mad about options that lower the barrier to entry for more riders to support the industry that may also end up investing in 600's which in turn supports manufacturers developing new and exciting future platforms like the GSX-8R and R9. Why are R7 haters ignorant of the bigger picture thinking they know better than one of the most successful bike brands on the planet. Asking for a bike shop owner's friend.
1:29 if you did that to my bike I'd punch you in the face lmao
I polished the floor in that home depot like a few months ago😂
Thanks Jake from state farm for giving Gus a ride 👍
you writing on the white board was so satisfying
Sorry to see some a-hole busted up your bike Jake.
Thanks man, yeah I was very disappointed walking out to the parking lot to see my bike had been hit
Everybody whined about the R7.
I was one of the earliest demo-riders on one of the few R7 bikes in the entire USA this year.
Nothing to complain about. It's a rad bike.
Gotta tilt every picture going up the stairs like van helsing abridged 😆 🤣
I carried a 18ft Halloween inflatable on my 636 ... Im 5’3 . Bought the Inflatable in fountain valley and I live I. Azusa ... I sat on my leg/foot the whole way one handed so I can reach the bars and sit over a 2ftx2ft box. Wasn’t fun , but got it done
That tree was nothing but if you can strap it take it, most of the time you dont go far enough
It's called a hustle, ladies and gentlemen.
Dude just pulled a piece off bros bike. Idc if it’s already messed up. 🤦♂️
That ride of yours sounds purrrty! From your Pal in Saskatchewan
no mames from jake was the best unexpected part of this video 😭
Ahahahaha yeah even the guy tying the tree around me expected it either, white boy knows a little Spanish
Id expect spanish to be everyones second language by now
Sure am missin the "Ole Shit box". Can't wait for the reviel
Shit boxes last longer
Glad kleb wasn't here he would have jumped in tree 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I thought I wanted the R7 but I think I got my sights set on Aprilia RS 660 since Yamaha doesn’t make the R6 anymore
Yeah same for the price as the r6 the aprilia looks just exotic asf. But might just go with the r7
That was Tree-mendous hahaha branched out nicely 🤣
'Leave' them alone.😂
Both are surely great bikes, I prefer the inline howl more than the CP2 😁
I loved my FZ07, such a fun bike.
I saw a prius a few days ago... Of-course it was slow and as a 'reflex' I thought "Outta my way Prius!!!"
awesome new shop, cant believe yall got that tree there lol
The R7 is a Legendary Homologation Bike from the late 90's. What You're Riding is an MT-07R...
your friend seems so nice and genuine bro, you needa start being more self aware fr
No mames guey! 😂
Great video SubD, loved it!
for anyone wondering like i was, the r7 is going to have a much more consistent powerband, where as with the r6 you wont feel it hit you, also the r7 will keep up and beat the r6 under 80 70mph depending on who gets the better start, but its those higher speeds that the r6 will leave the r7 in the dust.
Change that 70 to 50
@@nth842nd not beat but go head to head 👌🏻 only because whellly and grip limitation 👌🏻than again cb 500 go head tp head with r7 to 20-30 and with r6 furthemore to 20-30 mph you dont need more than 50 hp to stay with 200 hp liter bikes 🤷🏻♂️🤭 always cos whelly and grip 🤷🏻♂️
@@mociczyczki I mean depending on stance and length. If you're willing to give up cornering ability you could smoke a litter bike with an r6 if the r6 is lowered with an extended swing arm.
@@nth842only to specified velocity true .
This bike is really a competitor for the ninja 400 cause it’s should have been called a R4
This makes me miss Klaus lol
i can't wait for my R7 to arrive
Shame about Jake's bike being knocked over nothing some ramen won't fix though!
Got a new set of fairings sitting in the garage for it, was defiantly bummed though when it got knocked over though
When bro just pulled a piece off, I got mad for jake. You don’t do shit like that to another man’s ride. Idgaf if it’s messed up. Jake even said something right before he did it too. 🤦♂️
Def would rather the R6 not interested at all in the 7. The R7 would be great for a beginner tho
"its called a hustle" *proceeds to pay for lunch* LOL
“If it does, it does.” - Sub D
After an epic adventure like that, the tree's full name should be Sam Gamtree
"is this a tree, or a plant?" Lol
Nice new place they got there
let's see how long Gus survives
Lots of love from Greece man I hope u liked Greek food keep riding 💪🙏
Good stuff Sir!! 😎👍🏼👍🏼
Poor guy didn’t want you to make it worse and you just ripped it lol
1:32 that’s not your bike yo. That would lowkey piss me off.
You can see the torque pumpin'
If yo wanna be a lineman, you better get used to looking through trees! That is pretty much number one in the job description!!!!
I used to ride around this area all the time last summer and I know exactly where that Alberto tacos location is ha what a small world
Well that sucks… Thought you were naming it Sam 😂
That's the first time I Heard Sub D say something good about a Prius well at least the color of it 😆
Jake I have the same jacket and absolutely love it. Have you had any issues with yours.
No issues at all, been a amazing jacket. Super great summer jacket to have, gets a little cold wearing it in the winter though
this literally is just a r3 with 70 more hp and a plastics upgrade.... will never understand why they did this to their brand... this should not be the r6 replacement.
the gsxr 750 is the perfect middle between the 600 realm and 1000 realm. this nonsense of a "r7" is disrespect honestly... motorcycles were never meant to be inclusive for everyone............. why kill a legend like the r6 for "beginners"........ ?... i will never understand..
Where the boys at bxd and z and everyone? Definitely missing the Ole shitbox!
I have that same jacket as Jake from StateFarm and I love it!
Well, I developed a new hated towards gifted plants today because I've never noticed how obnoxious they were to keep alive.
HB PITA is also an awesome place to add to your list
If you’re ever In Valencia/ Santa Clarita area gotta try Gyromania
How tf is there a dislike already?
Hello, my friend! Sorry, I don't like the sound of the R7 the R6 sounded amazing! They are taking a long time to do the GSXR even with the move. Doesn't look like they have much more shop room, just nice offices. I was expecting a big shop area. I have to tell ya I was kinda disappointed when I saw the place. They do all have nice curved monitors now so that should fix a lot of bikes and make them tons of money! :-) I hope they find a good spot for Gus! Good thing I am retired and not opening any new places, I would be afraid to see what you would bring next for a housewarming gift! Maybe a big indoor rock! One that takes at least 4 people to roll it. LOL Can't wait to see you try to carry it on your bike! LOL! Well, it has been entertaining as usual. Thanks again for sharing. Take care and God bless you all. David
ayyy mission viejo. Knew this looked familiar
Hey I’ve been to this place… last August! It wasn’t bad.
If it had mods that make it go atleast 25+ faster it'll be A better bike
Gorgeous bike, but that is all. Uncomfortable and slow. If I am going to be uncomfortable, I at least want to be fast.
This was great! 😆
your friend on R6 is so sad and dissapointed that you rip away peace of plastic from his R6 and scratch it with a tree
Man this is the first video I've seen from you for a while. Last one I watched was when you n the kleb rode. I'm glad you still hate priuses
Did you say Albertacos?!?! Did we just become best friends?!?!? 😍
A tree on a bike that's got to be a first lol, I will have to check out the new L.A.P. location
With the right pipes the r7 has an almost cruiser v twin sound the r6 needed to be kept in the very top rev to make any power but while there it was a missel around town keeping it above 13k isn't allways easy that's where the r7 comes in plenty of power down low an more suited to all around rideing as much as I love my r6 highway rides arnt my favorite can't wait for the r9 next bike for me either r9 or r1 problem for me with r1 is 99 percent of ppl will never even get close to what that bike is capable of an if not tracking is kinda a waste
Where you at.. it's been a week...🤣
R7 can't be compare to the wonderfull (and powerfull !) R6 !
So true, the sound especially. It’s like a big 400
@@northrage3145 R7= good shape (look like an R6) but what strange idea to put the MT07 motor on it ! I prefer my cool R6 2019, espacialy because it the one of the last street legal model of this bike ! Yamaha, why don't you put on it a real race motor ?
That's because it was never meant too
In my neck of the woods, L.A.P. stands for Light Armor Piercing. Just FYI! 😛
No mames wey got me lol
Those Mexican knots are different
Sub D: the r7 is the perfect bike
Commenters only seeing the title: ThE r7 Is LaMe I kNeW iT wAs DiSaPpOiNtInG
I work in this plaza!! I wish I was there to watch this hahaha
not only is this bike slower, but you have worse suspension and brakes for a $2k difference. if you were to upgrade them to r6 quality, you'd have a more expensive slower bike
Last I looked 12699−9199 = 3.5 k difference
Not gonna lie I felt your friends anger when you snapped off the tail piece. I know his gonna get it replaced anyways but while it's not replaced leave as much of it on there as possible don't snap off more. If it were me I would have spoke a few words to you about that in a nice way cause I try not to be an asshole but still it was uncalled for 😮😅😅
I fucking LOVE alber tacos
Best at 3 am
No mames Jake! Great video! Not a fan of Surfin Souvlaki either. Always sounds good but never hits the spot!
bro paid $12 for a gyro with some fries in it lol damn u CA