Palpatine's Thoughts on All of His Sith Apprentices (LEGENDS)

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
  • Story from the Legends encyclopedia "Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force."
    00:00 Introduction
    00:51 Choosing An Apprentice
    02:55 Darth Maul
    05:11 Count Dooku
    07:03 Darth Vader
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Komentáře • 87

  • @elmermedina1713
    @elmermedina1713 Před 7 měsíci +190

    Maul was a loss, Tyranus was expendable, Vader was a disappointment, Luke was the one that got away

    • @celestialhylos7028
      @celestialhylos7028 Před 7 měsíci

      😂😂😂😂 Poor Palp

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Před 7 měsíci +6

      All of that is quite true

    • @NightcrawlerNC
      @NightcrawlerNC Před 7 měsíci

      Still fucked over the republic tbh

    • @Themartialartsmusician
      @Themartialartsmusician Před 7 měsíci

      How right you are.

    • @elmermedina1713
      @elmermedina1713 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @trevturp6891 Palpatine wanted Luke to replace Vader as his apprentice. In Canon this never happened. So Luke is the potential apprentice that escaped Palpatine's thrall.

  • @fosterfied9007
    @fosterfied9007 Před 7 měsíci +93

    Summed up in one sentence: Palpatine didn’t give a shit about anyone but himself. He made his followers feel like they were his trusted confidants but stabbed them in the back eventually. I will say though, even though Palpatine cared about Anakin primarily to achieve his goals, I think he did somewhat care for Ani a bit. He says to Yoda: "Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us". I think that showed that in an extremlt twisted and dark way he did somewhat care for Ani.

    • @alessandroobregon
      @alessandroobregon Před 7 měsíci +9

      Yeah I feel like for as selfish and evil as sidious was, he was ok with anakin surpassing him because sidious would be remembered as the one who molded him

    • @thomasbardoux1692
      @thomasbardoux1692 Před 7 měsíci +10

      That's the paradox of the sith. They're entirely egocentric, and yet plan to be vanquished by an apprentice for the greater good of the order.
      Although one can reconcile the two by thinking that creating a worthy replacement is a way to inscribe one's legacy after one's death.

    • @roycehuepers4325
      @roycehuepers4325 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Palpatine wanted Anakin for the same reason Orochimaru wanted Sauske 😂

    • @citiestoash
      @citiestoash Před 7 měsíci +3

      If he truly meant that. He wouldn’t have purposefully given ani a suit that hindered him, his power and potential so much. He did so to keep him under. He never wanted Vader to grow stronger than hill

    • @dominicdeshazo2285
      @dominicdeshazo2285 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Palpatine made Vader’s suit poorly to punish him for his failure against obi wan

  • @clarkkent8286
    @clarkkent8286 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Palatine: You are very important
    Palatine in his head: You all mudbloods to me

  • @dbsthumper
    @dbsthumper Před 7 měsíci +32

    can you imagine how powerful a Sith Lord Anakin would have been if he hadn't been physically injured/damaged by Obi-Wan during their duel on Mustafar!!!

    • @BrandonNicholasShinobi
      @BrandonNicholasShinobi Před 7 měsíci +8

      He’d be the most powerful Sith Lord ever. He’d eventually find true balance and become a Force God 💯

    • @greaterthansolomon-vv4ho
      @greaterthansolomon-vv4ho Před 7 měsíci +1

      he might have balance but in the process of reaching his full potential he would have reached insanity. so it’s possible that he would have went full darkside.

  • @williamclarke3026
    @williamclarke3026 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I imagine that sidious is sitting in his chair with hot cocoa and a quill. Dear diary….

  • @lordsidious83
    @lordsidious83 Před 7 měsíci +33

    To me the so called "legends" is the true canon

    • @keepmovingforward1722
      @keepmovingforward1722 Před 7 měsíci +6

      I honestly don’t even like using the word legends, I just say it since people get confused

    • @RetneysHolocron
      @RetneysHolocron  Před 7 měsíci +9

      I enjoy stories from both Legends and Canon. They're all still Star Wars stories, just two different continuities. 🙏

    • @MutantsInDisguise
      @MutantsInDisguise Před 7 měsíci

      There is no such thing as a "true" canon. Such crybabies are the legends cultists.

    • @keepmovingforward1722
      @keepmovingforward1722 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@RetneysHolocron I 100% agree with you

    • @keepmovingforward1722
      @keepmovingforward1722 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@MutantsInDisguise No-no please don’t. A lot of fans of the EU don’t really care about Disney Star Wars because we’re happy with our continuity
      The only ones getting mad are those who defend “legends” but have never picked up a “legends” books before.

  • @justinhammer3196
    @justinhammer3196 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Palpatine should have just found one really angry little ewok. Even Palpatines true master, Darth Jar Jar, would fear the darkside wrapped in so much cute fur.

  • @Ninjaphil24
    @Ninjaphil24 Před 7 měsíci +33

    As I listened to your excellent video, a thought came to me... The Sith are incredibly weak comparatively to the Jedi, in the grand scheme of things. Before Bane, their infighting was their downfall, after Bane, it took them 1000 years just to break even with the Jedi, and then, the total investment in such few individuals made them vulnerable to defeat, merely because of their lack of numbers. One slip-up and the chosen one became almost useless. And how long did their tenure last? 30 years vs 1000 before that of the Jedi and indefinitely after with Luke.
    In the end, the philosophy they had of focusing entirely on themselves made them completely vulnerable, as they had no one to fall back on. The Jedi did commit hubris, yes, but in the end, the lesson to be taken away is that it is better to co exist with other beings than to rule them and be tyrannical. Because, Sidious, in the end merely ruled a galaxy where everyone was trying to kill him... and eventually they succeded... twice.

    • @celestialhylos7028
      @celestialhylos7028 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@jamesblond1747
      The Force: I don't care whether the Jedi are hypocritical or not, I only want the Sith to lose.

    • @Ninjaphil24
      @Ninjaphil24 Před 7 měsíci

      @jamesblond1747No, I think the Force seeks balance, and finds it in the events around the Skywalkers and Sidious. But, in the end, it's not only the force of "the Force" at play, but the force of statistics as well. 1000s of Jedi vs 2 Sith at a time. In the end, Bane's doctrine ensured the survival of the Sith for those 1000 years and ended the infighting, but didn't really bring about dominance. Sidious dominated for a very short time.
      Furthermore, the Sith were looking for immortality, for very short sighted goals concerning their own short sighted needs.
      Also, the Force eats away at darksiders.
      Perhaps, what the Force truly wants, is for forceweilders to exist, but just like predators function as population control to herbivores... the Sith functioned as population control to the Jedi.

    • @Ninjaphil24
      @Ninjaphil24 Před 7 měsíci

      @jamesblond1747 The Sith as individuals aren't weak. The Sith as an order, though, are weak in comparison to the Jedi. It does matter how long they ruled. Their way of doing things may have had an impact during those 30 years, but it's a drop in the ocean compared to before and after. And in the end, it was infighting that destroyed them yet again. Vader killed Sidious. Sidious' own granddaughter killed him the second time. Kylo Ren turned against Sidious. And order of one, as Plagueis and Sidious wanted to achieve, is not an order. It's just one person, passing on nothing.

    • @Ninjaphil24
      @Ninjaphil24 Před 7 měsíci

      @@trevturp6891 His allies no... everyone else, yes. And they succeded.

    • @Ninjaphil24
      @Ninjaphil24 Před 7 měsíci

      @@trevturp6891 Anakin's potential was to be 200% stronger than Sidious. If he were to continue the rule of 2, that's what should've happened. Instead, he became a broken errand boy, who killed Sidious only when he returned to the light... and died in the process himself. Anakin was incapable of continuing the line, as had been continued from Bane to Sidious. And the line was broken.

  • @OreskisVR
    @OreskisVR Před 7 měsíci +8

    Darth Sidious Is The Best/Smartest Sith Lord To Ever Live🔥👍

  • @Reaperx420
    @Reaperx420 Před 7 měsíci +6

    This still doesn't say who Palpatine thinks would win a battle between the two. By what you said I gathered that he taught Mall a lot and manipulated Darth tyranus

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Před 7 měsíci +6

    The ultimate Sith Lord couldn't find a good apprentice to succeed him. It must've frustrated the hell out of him.

    • @NightcrawlerNC
      @NightcrawlerNC Před 7 měsíci +6

      Bro had the chosen one under his thumb and fumbled

  • @DeaconBlu
    @DeaconBlu Před 7 měsíci

    Cool vid mate.
    😎👍

  • @cadeshanley218
    @cadeshanley218 Před 7 měsíci +12

    This is why parts of Palpatine’s return is exciting. Palpatine’s notes in Sith Journals that gives his thoughts and feelings throughout the prequels, the original trilogy, and after the original trilogy in the sequels or in Legends after Endor.

  • @trazyntheinfinite
    @trazyntheinfinite Před 7 měsíci +14

    I still believe maul had the Most Potential
    Yeah i know Anakin and the chosen one
    But maul accomplished so much more without brute strenght

  • @zdenkozubin2152
    @zdenkozubin2152 Před 7 měsíci +1

    do the canon version too. he called tyranus a proton torpedo which was fked up.

  • @jameswest4259
    @jameswest4259 Před 7 měsíci

    Awesome video brother 🤘 Team Darkside!

  • @mikey2438
    @mikey2438 Před 7 měsíci

    that thumbnail 🔥

  • @The-Mad-Taoist
    @The-Mad-Taoist Před 7 měsíci +1

    Cool

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 Před 7 měsíci +3

    In Legends not counting CGI TCW And Its Tie Ins based on most taggers Maul was a very loyal attack dog, Tyrannus was a worthy placeholder, Vader was a shell of his former self after Mustafar, Galen Marek rejected his wants, and Luke came to his senses for the most part aside from Dark Empire yeah.

  • @NightcrawlerNC
    @NightcrawlerNC Před 7 měsíci +5

    Maul is from dathomir?

    • @RetneysHolocron
      @RetneysHolocron  Před 7 měsíci +8

      Maul’s backstory has been changed from Legends to Canon. This passage is Legends, from a 2007 book

  • @tgmartin
    @tgmartin Před 7 měsíci +2

    Dooku was an idiot for not twigging that Sidious was planning to replace him

    • @firstname3343
      @firstname3343 Před 7 měsíci +4

      He thought the rule of two had culminated to produce Palpatine and once their Empire arose the rule of two wouldn't have a need anymore. He wanted to spare Obi Wan and some of the Jedi to act as dark side enforcers for the empire. Also you could argue whether he was planning to take out Palpatine with his own apprentices, or with Obi Wan on Geonosis but realistically he wasn't strong enough to beat him on his own so he just had to wait.

  • @Chris.Mendoza
    @Chris.Mendoza Před 7 měsíci +1

    That is one 🔥thumbnail, may I ask where you got it ?

    • @RetneysHolocron
      @RetneysHolocron  Před 7 měsíci +2

      I just found it through Google after searching for a while

    • @Chris.Mendoza
      @Chris.Mendoza Před 7 měsíci

      @@RetneysHolocron Got you. Can I ask what exactly did you search if you remember?

  • @jenger83
    @jenger83 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Frigging legends comic was better than the last 3 Disney Star wars films.

  • @SkywalkerSamadhi
    @SkywalkerSamadhi Před 7 měsíci +1

    I thought Maul was from Dathomir.

  • @mikeysmith2999
    @mikeysmith2999 Před 7 měsíci

    The Jedi and the Sith are almost similar in every way

  • @lsodiumoverdosel
    @lsodiumoverdosel Před 7 měsíci +2

    Darth Bane was a much better sith.

  • @yusrashah1173
    @yusrashah1173 Před 7 měsíci +1

    maul girl 4 life

  • @ninjacheetah9784
    @ninjacheetah9784 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Maul definitely beat Dooku Idky y’all so delusional maybe George Lucas should show y’all sum day

  • @andreasschaeflein4233
    @andreasschaeflein4233 Před 7 měsíci +19

    This is why I prefer Sidious rule of one he knew his "apprentices" would try to kill him so he made sure they couldn't

    • @dilbertfish
      @dilbertfish Před 7 měsíci +4

      @andreasschaeflein4233 I don't think Dooku ever tried to fight Sidious though. I guess he had more sense.

    • @andreasschaeflein4233
      @andreasschaeflein4233 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @dilbertfish one of the interviews with George, he said the reason he wanted Kenobi was so he could overthrow Sidious. It's possible that by the time of revenge of the sith, he changed his mind or had become completely twisted

    • @eho6380
      @eho6380 Před 7 měsíci +2

      He knew Anakin would kill him though.

    • @andreasschaeflein4233
      @andreasschaeflein4233 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @eho6380 prior to him burning, yes. After that, he made his armor vulnerable to lightning

    • @andreasschaeflein4233
      @andreasschaeflein4233 Před 7 měsíci

      @trevturp6891 because unlike the previous banenite sith, Sidious had no desire to let them become the master. He saw them as nothing more than tools